linux-friendly ebook with decent support in Israel?

[Vassilii Khachaturov]

Can anyone recommend an ebook reader? I need one that
1) allows me to read my own PDFs and taking notes under Linux;
2) is sold and (well) supported in Israel;
3) doesn't require me to have a non-Linux machine to flash the updates;
4) doesn't require me to go online to download my own content to it;
5) isn't illegal to have in Israel because of its wireless capabilities 
(in fact, I'd like to be able to disable any wireless technology and not 
to use it anyway).


Something for which I don't have a desktop sync app in Linux as opposed 
to Mac/Win and have to mount the reader as a usb storage device is fine.


For a global picture, there is a cool "master list" over at
 http://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/E-book_Reader_Matrix

VKH

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Re: linux-friendly ebook with decent support in Israel?

[Vassilii Khachaturov]

On 09.01.2014 14:08, geoffrey mendelson wrote:

[SNIP]

It's pretty much obsolete. Probably 99% of ebook reading is done on 
iPads and Android tablets. In the real world where people buy their 
eBooks, the iPad and Android tablet offer the ability to buy books 
from several sources, while the dedicated readers don't.
Thanks for your answer. When I posted a link to a matrix of all the 
current eink-based readers, I assumed it is obvious I want an e-ink 
based one. I'd think dedicated reader would be more energy/weight/price 
efficient than a general purpose tablet, but anything with e-ink will 
do! Also, as I had stated, I'm not interested in buying DRM books anyway...


On 09.01.2014 14:18, geoffrey mendelson wrote:

On 1/9/2014 12:31 PM, Vassilii Khachaturov wrote:


5) isn't illegal to have in Israel because of its wireless 
capabilities (in fact, I'd like to be able to disable any wireless 
technology and not to use it anyway).


BTW, that was only the original iPad, and it was blocked in an attempt 
to satisfy the cellular companies and iDigital that people would not 
smuggle them in and avoid paying their markup and VAT.


In the end it turned out that they only used 2.4gHz WiFi and passed CE 
certification, which was enough to make them legal here.
Ah, I see! Thanks a lot, I haven't followed the development since the 
original debate began.


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Re: linux-friendly ebook with decent support in Israel?

[Vassilii Khachaturov]

On 09.01.2014 16:24, geoffrey mendelson wrote:

On 1/9/2014 3:08 PM, Vassilii Khachaturov wrote:
Thanks for your answer. When I posted a link to a matrix of all the 
current eink-based readers, I assumed it is obvious I want an e-ink 
based one. I'd think dedicated reader would be more 
energy/weight/price efficient than a general purpose tablet, but 
anything with e-ink will do! Also, as I had stated, I'm not 
interested in buying DRM books anyway...


Not really. You can buy an active display android tablet for about the 
same money. E-ink displays are more energy efficient, but slow. You 
end up hitting the next button before you finish a page in the hope 
that it starts to refresh before you get to the last word in the page 
and finishes as you do.


They also suck for displaying material that was originally color or 
scanned material. I have many books that were scanned and they are 
unreadable on an e-ink display,


E-ink was an idea which came and went.
I've been quite happy with the 1st generation irex iliad reader, despite 
the slow refresh. The newer e-ink pearl units really look great, and 
much better on my eyes wrt reading strain than a tablet. So it's not a 
matter of money, but of my personal preferences and my use case, which 
is a perfect match for an e-ink reader!


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Re: Printing UTF-8 in C

[Vassilii Khachaturov]

On 12.01.2014 20:34, Ori Idan wrote:

I need to print several Hebrew characters (UTF-8) to the terminal.
My locale is set to he_IL.UTF-8 so it shows Hebrew on the terminal, 
however printing from C gives me Chinese characters.

My question is how to print one character such as 'א' to the terminal.

Where does the character come from, is it a verbatim literal in the 
source? Unfortunately, this is not portable, even though gcc would 
support it. See the docs for GNU CPP, section "Implementation details", 
"Implementation-defined behavior". If you want portable solution, you 
must escape the chars, best done with something like #define ALEPH 
"\x..." to concatenate into a larger literal string.


Here is a nice stackoverflow thread with sample code that reads and 
outputs utf-8 from C, w/o any literals in it:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1373463/handling-special-characters-in-c-utf-8-encoding 
.


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Re: linux-friendly ebook with decent support in Israel?

[Vassilii Khachaturov]

On 09.01.2014 12:31, Vassilii Khachaturov wrote:

Can anyone recommend an ebook reader? I need one that
1) allows me to read my own PDFs and taking notes under Linux;
2) is sold and (well) supported in Israel;
3) doesn't require me to have a non-Linux machine to flash the updates;
4) doesn't require me to go online to download my own content to it;
5) isn't illegal to have in Israel because of its wireless 
capabilities (in fact, I'd like to be able to disable any wireless 
technology and not to use it anyway).


Something for which I don't have a desktop sync app in Linux as 
opposed to Mac/Win and have to mount the reader as a usb storage 
device is fine.


For a global picture, there is a cool "master list" over at
 http://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/E-book_Reader_Matrix

VKH
Went for onyx M92, and I was pleasantly surprised how good things work 
out of the box with linux --- no rooting, no special hack installations 
needed.
Annotation works very well, too, as well as reviewing it back on Linux 
workstation.


The only thing that doesn't work well out of the box is 
hyperref-produced hyperlinks in the PDF --- the Adobe PDF reader shipped 
in the reader isn't too intuitive. Need to install another reader app 
for that. Another minor annoyance is the silly confirmation question 
whenever you exit a PDF --- back from the days when the reader used to 
forget the last position in a book, no longer the case...


Didn't need to contact the support in Israel yet, hopefully won't during 
the warranty period at all :)


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avoiding the "microsoft tax" - laptop linux refund?

[Vassilii Khachaturov]

(There was a thread with a similar question on the matter back in 2003:
http://search.gmane.org/?query=linux+laptop+windows+refund&group=gmane.linux.region.israel
yet there was no answer in it. The thread includes an interesting 
pointer to http://www.netcraft.com.au/geoffrey/toshiba.html about a guy 
who once had gotten a refund from Toshiba, but this was long ago and far 
away (practically, on the other side of the world)).


Right now my wife is planning to buy a laptop from a research budget, 
and she is going to use Linux only on it. The university department IT 
help desk folks made some inquiries with the suppliers they usually work 
with, and suggested a particular make/model given her computing needs 
and their own hardware support experience (specifically, an IBM/Lenovo 
T43 laptop). I see a lot of success linux installation reports about 
this platform out there, so the only question that remains is how to get 
rid of the "Microsoft tax" spending from the grant. (Nothing has been 
bought so far.)


The supplier contacted IBM and said that they can't get any credit back 
from the IBM for the returned windows. The university folks, of course, 
are checking other suppliers meanwhile, but if they all in the end have 
similar agreements with IBM, I am afraid the result will be the same.


Does anyone have an idea how to proceed, based on successful experience? 
 If this has been done in the context of the Israeli higher education, 
the better. I know that in general IBM is supposed to be linux-friendly, 
given their investment in linux, and the fact that they do sell some 
linux pre-loaded laptops, so maybe there is a way to just buy it with 
windows and get a refund directly from IBM? Is there any law in Israel 
that one can use?


Or, as an alternative, does anybody have a specific supplier 
recommendation for either T43 or a comparable linux-friendly laptop, 
somebody in Israel that would be prepared to work with the University 
and be willing to sell w/o Windows?


VKh

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Re: avoiding the "microsoft tax" - laptop linux refund?

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> > Or, as an alternative, does anybody have a specific supplier
> > recommendation for either T43 or a comparable linux-friendly laptop,
> > somebody in Israel that would be prepared to work with the University
> > and be willing to sell w/o Windows?
[SNIP]
>
> I know that HP sells systems with SUSE 9.2 pre-installed. Maybe you
> should check that option.
[SNIP]
Currently the HP 14" models from the preferred dealer here are all "wide
screen (WXGA)" which doesn't fit for aesthetical reasons, so we are
checking other options as well - both other dealers and other brands.

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Re: looking for a drawing application

[Vassilii Khachaturov]

> Is there some free linux app similar to Visio or McDraw?
> I'd like to draw some block diagrams and save as GIF/JPEG so I can
> display it in a web browser.

Check out "dia". It is reasonably Hebrew-friendly as well.
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Re: g++ compilation problem

[Vassilii Khachaturov]

On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, Peter wrote:

>
> Hi all,
>
> I have a compilation problem: when compiling opal-2.2.5 , g++ reports:
> 'g++: Internal error: Killed (program cc1plus)'. g++ is 'g++ (GCC) 3.3.6
> (Debian 1:3.3.6-8)'. I would like to solve this without updating g++.

I suggest to talk to the debian gcc team. If what they say is that you
need to update, do it :) note that it is possible to have >1 gcc on the
same machine, i.e., you can still have 3.3.6 as your default compiler, and
only use 4.x.x as a non-default one by setting CC=... accordingly in the
env.

HTH,
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Re: g++ compilation problem

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On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, Peter wrote:

> > I suggest to talk to the debian gcc team. If what they say is that you
> > need to update, do it :) note that it is possible to have >1 gcc on the
> > same machine, i.e., you can still have 3.3.6 as your default compiler, and
> > only use 4.x.x as a non-default one by setting CC=... accordingly in the
> > env.
>
> The last time I updated the compiler alone it was like being reborn aout
> 3 times. I would PREFER not to do that. And g++ says to file a bug
> report, not upgrade.

BTW, have you read through the g++ FAQ? Last time I had 3.3.x
internal errors it turned out to be faulty RAM... I.e., on another
similarly set up debian box, do you have the same problem?

Be sure to file the bug report then... Also, you might want to talk to the
opal developers -- maybe they have an easy workaround.


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Re: Scanning program for linux

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> > > For scanning in linux, I had used the Xsane frontend 
> > > (http://www.xsane.org)
> > > for the SANE scanner interface.
[snip]
> > > I was wondering: does anybody have an experience with scanning in linux ?
> > > Did he get good results ?
> > > Can he recommend a different scanning program ?
>
> I'm using Kooka from the KDE project which is great though I don't like
> their concept of scans gallery. The GNOME scanner is much simpler but
> also does a good job and is less of a hassle to run (I have no idea what
> its called - its named simple "gnome scan tool").
[snip]
I'm using quiteinsane. I find it slightly friendlier than xsane.

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Re: enough (was Re: the great jerusalem firewall)

[Vassilii Khachaturov]

> This completely off-topic thread has gone on far too long. Aside from two or
> three posts about possible LINUX issues, I fail to see why we are having this
> completely irrelevant discussion about porn, censorship, religion and who
> knows what else.

I disagree. If an MS-based solution is mandated by law and thus makes
non-MS internet connectivity illegal, this suddenly becomes very on-
topic.

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Re: [resend] xkbd language switching

[Vassilii Khachaturov]

> I've learned that the following commands do the switching:
>  setxkbmap -model pc104 -layout us
>  setxkbmap -model pc104 -layout il
> so I can use them as input actions to select english/hebrew.
>
> However, turns out the commands do not update the icon.
> Is there a better way to switching language on KDE 3.5.5/FC5 using the 
> keyboard?

Please have a look at the following bug with a micro-HOWTO inside,
on how to enable keyboard-based switching on the dead right-windows key:

http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=84606

Note that there is an alternative way - switch "above" the KDE
by directly modifying the
   Option  "XkbLayout" "us"
in the xorg.conf file (but you'll not have the nice KDE flag then.

If you want a more light-weight switcher (in case you want a light-weight
window manager, as opposed to KDE), there are other packages for the
switching/flag indication stuff. Most notably fbxkb.

HTH,
Vassilii


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Re: Visual diff tool for patches.

[Vassilii Khachaturov]

> Did not see you mentioned meld specifically. Anyway I could sugest the
> following procedure.
>
> You could prepare two copies of the source tree: "pristine" and
> "modified", where "modified" is "pristine" with patch applied.

Very true. It's also a good idea to do the copy with the
 cp -la
option so that the files are not copied, but linked instead,
so the only thing you waste the disk for is the inodes and
the files that actually differ.

> Then fire up meld (or any other merge tool) and just apply/move
> changes one by one from "modified" to "pristine".


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Re: avoiding the "microsoft tax" - laptop linux refund?

[Vassilii Khachaturov]

Just following this up for other poor souls researching such a thing in 
Israel.



Or, as an alternative, does anybody have a specific supplier
recommendation for either T43 or a comparable linux-friendly laptop,
somebody in Israel that would be prepared to work with the University
and be willing to sell w/o Windows?

[SNIP]

I know that HP sells systems with SUSE 9.2 pre-installed. Maybe you
should check that option.

[SNIP]
Currently the HP 14" models from the preferred dealer here are all "wide
screen (WXGA)" which doesn't fit for aesthetical reasons, so we are
checking other options as well - both other dealers and other brands.


My wife actually said she probably prefers a 12" model, but can do with 
a 14". This made the HP tablet PC tc4400 a pretty good option. I read a 
very enthusiastic installation report on it at 
http://www.place4sure.com/tc-4400/tc-4400.html , thanked Theo --- the 
author, --- and got even more interesting comments and warm reports 
about the make in return. But, following a check through the dealers 
with the HP/Israel, they absolutely refused to sell a "non-Windows-OEM" 
laptop (they said that maybe an order of 100 units at a minimum might 
make it viable). This one is sold with a special handwriting-recognition 
Windows version, which costs over $100! So, if minimizing the MS tax is 
a goal, tc4400 had to be avoided. The recent negative PR of HP wrt Linux 
and warranty is also a factor in our decision not to buy a unit with the 
Windows sticker on, even with the later clarification 
http://enterprise.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/03/30/199253


There was a small shop that was going to sell us an "INF" 12" laptop 
(could be it's an OEM of the same hardware that LG sells?), which had 
very good battery life specs in the description (1Kg in the solicited 
configuration, and 8 hours of battery life). They were ready to do it 
w/o any "MS tax" (i.e., Windows would have been an extra option on the 
price list to check off, and they had there both Vista and XP). However, 
they were not serious enough with respect to the hardware evaluation -- 
they initially promised to deliver the laptop within 2 days, then a 
week, then said we have to pre-sign a form saying if we wreck it we pay 
for it (isn't it obvious anyway?), then procrastinated further 2 days 
and never sent us the form; in the end, the dept. IT guys said sorry for 
having recommended this option in the first place. Another problem with 
the make is that there is no int'l warranty on it, only through the dealer.


So, after all, we have gone back to the dept preferred IBM dealer, and 
are now going to buy either a T43 or a X60s (more likely), paying the MS 
tax as we go. We shall try to decline the license agreement by MS and 
ask for a refund from the IBM / MS directly (at least, as long as it is 
just a matter of mails/letters/faxes.)


The up side of the story is that meanwhile my wife happily uses her 
current 7-year-old 3-Kg ASUS laptop, running Gentoo, and doesn't mind 
waiting, and also the solid-state flash drives available in Israel got 
larger capacity and much better MTBF.


If, meanwhile, somebody on the list got acquainted with a place in 
Israel to buy a non-wide linux-friendly laptop WITHOUT MS TAX, please 
tell us. So far it looks that the MS marketing successfully forced all 
the dealers to pre-brand all their stock laptops as MS OEM units :-(


Or, if there is any of you, who knows a sure legal route to the refund 
in Israel (similar to the UK-specific story 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6144782.stm ), please tell us. I 
do have some hope because Israeli law is a descendant of the UK one 
AFAIU (again, IANAL).


If we do make any progress with it, I'm going to follow up any 
successful or unsuccessful refund attempts.


VKh

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Re: avoiding the "microsoft tax" - laptop linux refund?

[Vassilii Khachaturov]

> > My wife actually said she probably prefers a 12" model, but can do with
> >
>
> [snip]
>
> > If, meanwhile, somebody on the list got acquainted with a place in
> > Israel to buy a non-wide linux-friendly laptop WITHOUT MS TAX, please
> > tell us. So far it looks that the MS marketing successfully forced all
> > the dealers to pre-brand all their stock laptops as MS OEM units :-(
> >
>
> Have a look at MSI, sold by ivory (www.ivory.co.il). It comes with no M$
> (either by default or as a discount, not sure what it is now).
>
> It also comes with a two year warrenty (one international).
>
> There is a 12" 2kg version I believe for a very resonable price (last time I
> checked there was a celron version for about 3800 NIS)

Hmm 2kg @12" is around twice as heavy as it should be at that size, and
the warranty sounds weak as well (we're looking for something with 3 years
warranty). The price surely sounds right, though...

> > Or, if there is any of you, who knows a sure legal route to the refund
> > in Israel (similar to the UK-specific story
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6144782.stm ), please tell us. I
> > do have some hope because Israeli law is a descendant of the UK one
> > AFAIU (again, IANAL).
> >
>
> I doubt that you'll get anything, my guess is that M$ will point you at IBM if
> they'll bother and IBM may ignore you or say you can return the laptop if you
> haven't used it or something like that.

I'm pessimistic as well, but I will try nevertheless. In the worst case,
if we're forced upon with the MS s/w, we'll at least copy all the MS fonts
over for use in the Linux installation.

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Re: avoiding the "microsoft tax" - laptop linux refund?

[Vassilii Khachaturov]

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007, Vassilii Khachaturov wrote:

> > > If, meanwhile, somebody on the list got acquainted with a place in
> > > Israel to buy a non-wide linux-friendly laptop WITHOUT MS TAX, please
> > > tell us. So far it looks that the MS marketing successfully forced all
> > > the dealers to pre-brand all their stock laptops as MS OEM units :-(

An important self-correction:

Dell was actually ready for a non-MS-encumbered deal (with meaningful
price quote less than a quote with an MS OS included, given in the
beginning), but, unfortunately, they don't carry any non-wide laptop. For
those of you who seek a linux-only laptop and don't mind the (ugly IMHO)
wide screen, I guess Dell should be the way to go.

Vassilii


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Re: New "dumb" question: how to USB

[Vassilii Khachaturov]

> I inserted a USB flash drive to the USB slot. man -k usb told me about
> lsusb, and the device is recognized. How do I access it (mount it)? [I
> don't think hotplugging is set up, but I want to do it manually, so
> please, don't teach me how to set up hotplugging].

Once you have the device recognized it means you've already got it
hotplugged. Probably you meant that you don't want how to set up
automounting the device?

Typically, when you plug the USB drive in, it'll get assigned
a pseudo-scsi interface in the kernel, and thus get some device name
like /dev/sda, /dev/sdb, etc. You can see the name through the kernel
messages, or through the /proc filesystem. The problem is that
if you have 2 similar drives, you have no control over which one
will become sda and what sdb. You should be using udev
to write a rule that creates a symlink accordingly to the drive
make/label/capacity/whatever, but I won't elaborate as this sometimes
is also designated as the very hotplugging you asked not to be taught.

Now that you know the device name, whether directly smth like /dev/sda
or indirectly like an automatically created symlink like /dev/myusbdrive
-> sda, you should be using the regular ways to mount the drive. If a
non-one-time operation, you should add an appropriate line to
/etc/fstab, and then use mount(8) to mount it, or you can directly
specify both the device partition name and the target mount point name
on the command line.

HTH,
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Re: fall back locale

[Vassilii Khachaturov]

> Maybe an example will be more clear:
> I want to have the UI in Amharic, and I'll use am_ET.UTF-8, but since
> there are only a few strings translated, I wish the untranslated strings
> to be shown in Hebrew (he_IL.UTF-8) instead of English (C or en_US.UTF-8).

Will the standard "LANGUAGE" environment variable, with ':'-based separation,
work for you?

Vassilii

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Re: New Israeli Debian mirror: archive & CD images

[Vassilii Khachaturov]

On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 11:35:35PM +0200, Dmitry Sherman wrote:
> New Israeli Debian mirror: archive & CD images

Thanks a lot!

> 
> http://www.debian.co.il/debian - Archive
> 
> http://www.debian.co.il/debian-cd CD-IMAGES

Make sure you publish it in the Debian's mirror list, with
all the crypto signing stuff working (if you haven't done that yet)...

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Re: Fwd: "spontaneous" umount

[Vassilii Khachaturov]

Did you try disabling supermount to see if the problem goes away?

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Re: UPS and Linux

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Is it for a server room or an (home?) office location?
In that case, make sure you can live with the dB the UPS
will put up. And listen to it yourself --- lower dB at some
freqs sounds nastier than higher dB on others.

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Re: Keeping iptables rules across reboots on Debian (lenny) ?

[Vassilii Khachaturov]

> Let me try explaining what is it that I find missing in Debian's 
> iptables setup:
> 
> The most basic use case is for a sysadmin to configure rules and
> expect them to survive reboot. This is the behavior he is familiar
> with from nearly every enterprise FW device. Here, on Debian OTOH he's
> instructed to script in /etc/network/if-pre-up.d to have the system
> load iptables rule set on boot, reasonable except for the single issue
> of him required to also _remember_ to iptables-save those rules on
> each modification. I find this process error prone. The is not a
> single utility (AFAIK) in Debian repository to automate this process.

I find the current behaviour much more intuitive for remote management,
where all you have as a rollback in case of a wrong change. In this
case, you just ask for simple remote-hands-and-eyes reboot of the
server, and it is restored automatically to the last configuration,
which was used last time you logged in.

If you have console access, it's a different thing. I agree that,
perhaps, a mid or low priority debconf option to change it to auto-save
every change would be reasonable, as long as it is not a default.

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Re: getting another process id from within a c/cpp program?

[Vassilii Khachaturov]

> > Is there another way of doing this other than iterating over /proc and
> > reading all the process names?
> 
> Probably not. There is no system call, or even C library function, to do
> this sort of query.
> 
> So your most portable choice is indeed to run an external "ps" program.
> The not-portable way (will work only on Linux) is to look in /proc. This
> is what the ps program does on Linux, by the way.

The way to do it on linux is using libproc, which is supposed to
abstract the current /proc hierarchy a bit. It's almost the same as
going over /proc, but cleaner.

VKh

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Re: terminal emulator

[Vassilii Khachaturov]

konsole advanced option have a checkmark (that used to be OFF by default 
in early UTF-8 adoption days, and is nowadays ON by default) that 
triggers RTL rendering of Hebrew.



On 28.08.2014 18:23, Yedidyah Bar David wrote:
2014-08-28 18:06 GMT+03:00 Efraim Flashner >:


tilda shows up left-to-right with hebrew letters, mlterm shows up
right-to-left with boxes.  All on debian sid.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7048321/tilda.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7048321/mlterm.jpg


I now verified that konsole also shows hebrew right-to-left.
You should probably configure mlterm (ctrl-rightclick) to use some 
other font.


I personally use both xterm and mlterm with a very old raster (pcf) 
font I found somewhere a very long time ago, don't remember anymore 
where, and tweaked a bit since. I don't mind sharing it, but any 
modern vector font will probably look better.

--
Didi



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