Re: xfone 018 phone service and Linux
Arie Skliarouk wrote: Hi, Recently I discovered an VoIP phone service by company xfone: http://www.018.co.il/mpa.asp From what I understood, they provide you with hardware phone that is connected to regular internet line (preferably with them as the ISP). They also provide an PC client for windows that supposedly allows you to call landlines and mobiles phones in Israel and over the world using your phone account (similar to skype). They provide you with an adapter that has RJ45 to your LAN/router and RJ11 to your POTS (phone). The adapter does DHCP and then goes out to some SIP gateway. I asked nicely, so they gave me two concurrent outgoing calls (so I can call via Softphone and the adapter). Can someone confirm my understanding? Is the PC client an regular SIP softphone? I am not sure, but you can download it and see for yourself. I did some wireshark captures of it and it does SIP (according to wireshark). The more interesting thing I do is use my Wifi capable E65 to dial using Fring with their account (this also makes my E65 a Skype terminal). I am still unable to make the Symbian SIP client use them. Also, I cannot accept calls via Fring (but I don't care, since I don't give this number to people). They have a 29.90 NIS account for 500min/month (landline only), call price is 0.079NIS/min for landline and 0.32NIS/min to mobile. They are cheaper than regular SkypeOut for calls to Israel. I considered their other option (9.90 for 24 months for the adapter and the rates as above), but didn't want to commit for 24 months. They have a few problems. I cannot dial 1-800 numbers (even their own 1-800-078-078). This is still a pilot. I am still trying to figure what extra services they have (voice mail, voice to email, call forward etc). You cannot move your Bezeq number. They had some billing problem with the mobile taarifs (it was ~3NIS instead 0.32NIS), but I called them and they fixed it. How do they solve the latency problems inherent to any internet connection? I didn't notice a problem with that. -- Arie ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- -- Yaron. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Cable Internet
And now for some facts about HOT cable service. Cables: When you connect to HOT, you get a cable modem that (usually) has Ethernet connection. When you connect something (router or PC) to that port and issue a DHCP request, you are assigned, as usual, an IP address. The IP address assigned depends on your connection type. Option 1: Your ISP told HOT that your are their customer. HOT DHCP assigns you an address from a pool that belongs to the ISP and routes all your traffic to that ISP. A router for that option need to be able to issue a DHCP request on its WAN link. Option 2: You are an 'open access' client. You get an IP address in the range 172.20.0.0/16-172.29.0.0/16. These addresses can access a restricted set of routers that belong to the ISPs. On top of that connection you can run whatever your ISP chose to do. Some (such as TAU) do PPTP, some do L2TP, but they can also do IPSEC, GRE or whatever they like. This is more flexible because you can switch ISPs without problems. A router for that option need to be able to issue a DHCP request and then run PPTP/L2TP using this IP address. I have seen routers which cannot do that, so you should check your router for that feature (you need to choose PPTP/L2TP and then in the IP address field you need to specify DHCP). So, a router for a HOT cable connection need to have an Ethernet WAN link. I haven't seen routers which have a coax connection and eliminate the need for a cable modem, so compatibility in that respect is not as issue. Enjoy. Geoff Shang wrote: Hello, Apologies for jumping onto a mailing list and posting right away. I realise it's bad form and I hope you'll forgive me for that. Apologies for also not reading the list FAQ at http://www.linux.org.il/linux-il-faq.html . This currently gives an error: xC: Undefined variable: REQUEST_URI xC: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /var/www/www-linuxorg/inc/main.php:19) I posted my query to gnubies-il yesterday but I haven't seen it appear yet, so thought I'd post it here in stead. I'm about to move to Israel with my wife. We've managed to land ourselves a good deal for cable Internet, and I've been reading conflicting information about how it works. The howto at http://tx.technion.ac.il/~eyalroz/linux_cable_pptp.html says that everyone uses PPTP. The howto at http://iglu.org.il/amit/cable seems to indicate that this was changing, and the IGLU FAQ says all you need is a DHCP client and the cable modem. I've also heard from other sources that it uses PPPoE. So which is it? Thanks in advance for any help you can give. It's confusing trying to get technical questions answered from the other side of the world when you don't speak the language. Geoff. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: failover DHCP
TAU runs with two ISC version 3.0.2 on Linux RH3. Over 10,000 hosts, most of them are assigned static addresses, but we also have a small number of dynamic hosts. Works with no problems. Configuration of failover was not complicated, although you need to specify the failover peer for each pool of dynamic hosts (dhcp failover is meaningless for static IP assignments). On Mon, 27 Feb 2006, Shlomo Dubrowin wrote: Howdy All, We are looking into implementing a redundant DHCP system in our office.Our main office uses NT servers with Split Scope.I'd like to implement a linux failover DHCP system, using ISC's failover configuration.Does anyone have any experience with failover DHCP?We would test, of course, but if people have had lots of problems maybe it's not worth even the testing.Thanx. Shlomo -- --- ,-~~-.___.._. / |' \ | || Shlomo Dubrowin () 0 | | | (Sheldon) \_/-, ,' | | | !_!--v---v-- / \-'~; ||[EMAIL PROTECTED] / __/~| ._-|| | http://www.dubrowin.org =(_|_|||| --- +++ This Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System at the Tel-Aviv University CC. -- Yaron. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TAU website and information
TAU students which apply for an account on CC servers (zoot and comfy) may use the doc2ps program in order to convert doc files to PS and then view them on a PS viewer (or even further use ps2pdf and use Acrobat). This is a bit awkward, but it works. -- Yaron. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (OT) ISP's that don't allow relaying
On Fri, 14 Dec 2001, Manor G. wrote: Hi, I am using several ISPs but over the years I got used to using one email box at actcom, a few months ago I canceled My dial-up account there but I bought an Email-only account, which most isp's offer, just to have my old regular email address. While trying to send mail, I always get a Relaying is not allowed Message, I sent an email to their support team, and their answer Was that an Email-only account is only for GETTING mail, if you want to Sent mail you must use a different Smtp by a different ISP. Then I Found out most isps don't allow relaying, so I wondered, why isps offer mailbox's anyway? Shouldn't they find a solution for smtp? You could use the SMTP server of the ISP you use (you must have some ISP). So your pop server is with Actcom while your SMTP server is somewhere else. Is there a way to allow only certain users Relaying? Actcom can run authenticated SMTP. If they do, you will need to use your username for sending as well. POP before SMTP is a kludge. Manor G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Yaron. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ADSL problems with 10/100 NICs
On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Shaul Karl wrote: I am not sure I understand the differences between a hub and a switch. Am I right in saying that these 2 devices operate at 2 distinct layers? Ethernet (10base5, or 10base2) is shared media (everyone gets everyone's traffic). A hub (10baseT) does the same (it delivers everyone's traffic to everyone). Therefore it runs at a single speed (10 or 100) and it is half duplex (If I talk, you must be quiet). A switch delivers traffic only (with some exceptions) to the port that needs to see it (based on MAC address). It can also buffer the packets, so it can do both 10Mb and 100Mb as well as full duplex. Can youpoint any good online references that concentrate on explaining these 2 devices (and perhaps on a router too)? Why, did google went out of bussiness ? -- Yaron. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Repost: monitoring tools
On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Miki Shapiro wrote: 2. Is there any GNU/BSD/SomethingSimilar HP-OpenView equivalent? They started the opennms (www.opennms.org) project. But it is a bit new and would probably require some more time to mature. Thanks a bunch!! ---= Miki Shapiro =-- ---= Cell: (+972)-56-322433 = ---= ICQ: 3EE853 =--- ---= Windows Programmer in Rehab =--- - If at first you don't succeed... .. Skydiving is probbably not for you. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Yaron. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ADSL problems with 10/100 NICs
On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, fredy wrote: Unlike a 10/100 hub a switch will not automatically handle differences in communication speeds. This is not correct. A switch can run with stations at both speeds. As a matter of fact, a 10/100 hub is using a dual port switch (aka bridge) to seperate the 100Mb hub from the 10Mb hub. I never used 3com switches but they all have one thing in common - the direct cable connection, some even a telnet connection. There are unmanaged switches. These cannot be configured at all. All you have to do is enterthe interface and configure the switch, I belive that bye seperating the switch into semi-subnets you will solve the problem. for example, lets say its a 16 port switch, just make the first 8 10MBit and the last 8 100MBit, the switch then will use logic to transfer packets between the two subnets. I am not sure I understand what you are trying to describe here. another thing you should do while inside the interface is check the port status, i belive you should see many collisions and packet timeouts which were caused by the missconfiguration of the switch and they are the reason your sessions broke up. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Aviram Jenik Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 8:48 AM To: Shaul Karl Cc: linux ILUG Subject: Re: ADSL problems with 10/100 NICs My guess is that those machines are sending packets in 100mbps whereas the Linux machine uses a 10mbps card and loses packets, which results in a broken connection. I was under the impression that a good dual-speed switch should handle those speed differences by itself, transparently. What is the model of your switch? Yes, I thought so too. Note that network communication is working, but occasionally web pages are not displayedand e-mail download gets broken. The switch is a 3COM OfficeConnect Dual speed switch. - Aviram = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Yaron. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ADSL problems with 10/100 NICs
On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Henry Fischer wrote: There's nothing of that sort - no serial connection, not any other connection. The documentation mentions nothing about configuring the switch by software or by any other means. - Aviram I find it very unlikely that there's no way to configure your switch. I think all modern hubs/switches come with some sort of configuration utility and/or a special configuration port. It could be an RJ45 or a serial port. If you got a CD with the switch, check for a configuration utility that can be installed on a Windows client. If you didn't get a CD, search 3com's (it's a 3com switch, right?) website for a downloadable configuration utility. Also try to connect to it by telnet or through a web browser. Some switches (and hubs, such as the 3Com PS40) are managed switches. Their configuration menus are usually accessible using an RS232 port or Ethernet (TCP/IP) using telnet, web or SNMP. These are more expensive. Some switches (and hubs) are unmanaged. They cannot be configured or monitored. All ports are set to auto negotiation, auto speed. Naturally, these are cheaper. Cheers, Henry -- Love is the only game that is not called on account of darkness. -- M. Hirschfield = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Yaron. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ADSL problems with 10/100 NICs
On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Aviram Jenik wrote: I'm having a strange problem with my ADSL connection. I'm not sure the problem is Linux related (probably isn't), but hopefully the solution is Linux related :-) I recently replaced my home network's hub with a dual-speed switch (3Com's officeconnect) that supports both 10 and 100 connections. My home network has a mix of 10 and 100 NICs, where the Linux machine that serves as my ADSL gateway has a 10mb NIC, but 2 Windows machines on the network have 100mb NICs. Since the upgrade, those two machines suffer from strange problems while surfing the web and downloading e-mails, where the connection is sometimes terminated abruptly. My guess is that those machines are sending packets in 100mbps whereas the Linux machine uses a 10mbps card and loses packets, which results in a broken connection. Installing a 10mbps card on one of these stations solved the problem, but obviously that isn't the solution I'm looking for. Is there any way I can configure either the Linux gateway or the Windows machines to solve this problem (MTU settings perhaps?!). Check for duplex settings mismatch. This is the most common problem we had with 3Com switches (and switches in general). Although this usually causes slow tranfer rates rather than broken connections. Do notice that some NICs do not let you set the card's speed and duplex (SGI and some Sun models). In this case disabling duplex auto negotiate and forcing full duplex on the port is a sure way of causing duplex mismatch because these NICs will fall back to half duplex. Also, but this is extremely unlikely, you might have some compatibility problems. I've seen a 3Com LS1100 which had similar problems with Accton NICs of a very specific vintage (November '99 if I am recalling correctly). Also, I have seen some problems with Kingston's hubs. Replace the 100Mb cards with other brands (Intel EtherExpress is always a good choise). TIA. - Aviram = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Yaron. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 1. ftp.tau.ac.il 2. www.exploits.org
On Thu, 17 May 2001, Shaul Karl wrote: Currently it does pass the test. I didn't tried before. I spoke to their support as well. It does work now because of their support intervention. BTW: when speaking to their `private' user support you might want to ask the supporter to actually go to their dial-up machine and dial from it using the bezeq number that you are using to dial for their pop center. Otherwise he might use his machine, and his machine might be connected to the Internet differently from your machine. Does the fact the other people have reported 421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection meaningful? I mean, can't it be due to the remote site has reached max connections? Perhaps they should try again later? This is from ftp.tau.ac.il: # uptime 4:21pm up 18 day(s), 1:36, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.01 # ftpwho Service class users: - 0 users (no maximum) Service class tau: - 0 users ( 50 maximum) Service class iiucc: - 0 users ( 50 maximum) Service class israel: - 0 users ( 20 maximum) Service class world: - 0 users ( 20 maximum) As you can see the machine is not very loaded. We (TAU) were getting these Bezeq Int users' complaints for many months and always sent the users to their support. I am not sure what is taking them so much time to fix this problem. -- Yaron. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SMS script
On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Vlad wrote: Can somebody send me please SMS script? Its in http://nadav.harel.org.il/software/sendsms. Vlad = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echounsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Yaron. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FTP hangs, taking 100% CPU
On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Aviram Jenik wrote: There's a problem that's been driving us crazy for a while here. One of our users connects using explorer as an FTP client. I'm not sure whether or not Explorer does an explicit disconnect when the window is closed, but in any case, after the FTP session is done, the process in.ftpd remains 'alive' until it's killed manually. It can even continue to 'run' for days, even though the FTP client is long gone. What's worse, it takes 100% CPU, and if a second connection is initiated, a second process remains with an additional 100% CPU (and this really takes the fun out of our 2 CPU machine). The whole thing is very strange, since there's no problem with any FTP clients besides this one, and there's nothing special about our FTP daemon (wu-ftpd-2.6.0). Does anybody have a clue about what might be causing this? 1. What is the output of netstat -a on both the client and the server ? 2. strace is your friend. 3. Upgrade your ftpd. - Aviram = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Yaron. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bash prompt
On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, Boaz Rymland wrote: Besides, AFAIK, enviroment variables are all shell dependant as they are created by the shell. Some might be completely standard, like TERM, but they are all to the mercy of the shell. (Ofcourse, I would love to be corrected or better rephrased :-) . Actually, telnetd whould probably set the env variable and would exec login, which would inherit it. Then, once login execs the shell (actually passwd's 7th value), it will inherit whatever they (telnetd and login) will set in their env. Boaz. -- Yaron. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cdrecord-1.9 and HP9600si.
On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Yaron Zabary wrote: Anyone with any luck. I am trying to use this combination (with xcdroast 0.98 alpha8). The image seems to be right (the files are having the correct size), but when I check the content (MD5, cmp), it seems that the files are corrupted. This happened in x4 and x12. Any clue ? Turned out to be a problem with SCSI controller config. -- Yaron. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cdrecord-1.9 and HP9600si.
Anyone with any luck. I am trying to use this combination (with xcdroast 0.98 alpha8). The image seems to be right (the files are having the correct size), but when I check the content (MD5, cmp), it seems that the files are corrupted. This happened in x4 and x12. Any clue ? -- Yaron. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sending SMS messages by E-mail + Sending E-mail from an SMScellphone
On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, Shlomi Fish wrote: How can I send an SMS message to an orange subscribe by E-mail, and how can I send an E-mail from an SMS capable cellular phone? I've been told by Orange that they are trying to have some out of band SMS sending (modem, TAP etc). If they go with TAP, you will be able to do that using qpage (www.qpage.org). Pro: goes OOB (which means that 'the network is down' message gets to you at the time and not afterwards). Con: you have to pay for the phone calls. Regards, Shlomi Fish -- Shlomi Fish[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://t2.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/ Home E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The prefix "God Said" has the extraordinary logical property of converting any statement that follows it into a true one. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Yaron. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why is it so hard
On Sun, 8 Oct 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK - it's probably me or something I'm doing wrong, but I must admit that I really don't know what to do about my ADSL and Netscape problems. I've written before and each time people gave me answers that helped to a certain extent. But I still don'thave a solution. 1 - I'm using ADSL and usually getting speeds SLOWER than a regular modem connection. 2 - There are many sites I can't reach at all with Netscaape even though I can PING or TRACEROUTE. 3 - the YPBINDPROC error message I wrote about comes back now and then for no apparent reason. My guess is that you have an /etc/defaultdomain (or wherever Linux holds its YP config) which gets YP (aka NIS) running and this messes your entire name resolution routines. 4 - I've tried downloading/installing various plug-ins (FLASH, REAL) and nothing seems to work. Let me make it clear that I hate WIN98 and refuse to use it (except at work where I have no choice), but out of desperation, I booted WIN98 to see if things work. On the first try, everything works. I really don't know what to do. Why is this so bloody hard? Maybe I need a baby sitter to show me **hands-on** what's wrong with my system. Any volunteers in the Raanana area :-) GMAR CHATIMA TOVA to all //- Shlomo Solomon E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://come.to/shlomo.solomon Date: 08-Oct-2000 Time: 11:14:12 Message sent by XFMail on a LINUX Mandrake 7.0 machine //- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echounsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Yaron. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: is the swap being used ?
On Tue, 3 Oct 2000, guy keren wrote: On Tue, 3 Oct 2000, Dani Arbel wrote: i would reccomand to make the swap at least double the RAM size. that system has too small swap partition. sorry for poking in again - i just had to dispell that mith. this 'swap size is double RAM size' was the rule of thumb for unix administrators about 5-10 years back. unix systems back then used to pre-allocate space in the swap partition for every page of memory allocated for program's code and data segments in memory. this meant that you had tohave at least the same ammount of swap space as your RAM size, in order to be able to use all of your system's RAM. Actually, what you are describing is the BSD 4.n (n=3) behaviour (SunOS 4 is based on BSD4.3). SysV always used swap and RAM to store pages (Irix 3.3 (SysVR3), AIX 3.1 are two SysV OSes that were in use ten years ago and used the 'new' model). In BSD 4.4 (which FreeBSD 2.x and above is based on) this is no longer true. also, RAM was very expensive back then, so it was scarce. these days, however, RAM is cheap, and linux does not do that pre-allocation (and i think neither do other modern unices), so some people manage to run their machine without using any RAM at all. if you system starts using swap space alot - it's often cheap enough to simply buy more ram. using a lot of swap is mostly leftrelevant for heavy-duty machi, and even then you try to get your system to do as little swap as possible (especially if you're running an interactive web server, or similar). You ment '... run their machine without using any swap at all.'. That's true. It is unlikely that if your machine has 0.5Gb of RAM you will install 1Gb of swap. Just try to imagine (calculate) what will happen if you start swapping 1Gb. This discussion usually comes hand in hand with the swap file vs. swap partition discussion. I always felt that during the installation you should install lots of swap space (~250Mb, or even more), just to be on the safe side (with today's disks it doesn't make sense to save here). If you go out of swap, add a swap file (don't re-partirion). Once you start swapping, it is going to crawl anyway and it doesn't really matter which of them you use. The obvious answer is to buy more memory. thus - allocate RAM based on your experience with the pattern of usage of your machine. You ment allocate swap. Dito (and buy as much RAM to make sure that programs don't swap). guy "For world domination - press 1, or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator." -- nob o. dy = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Yaron. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AVM Fritz Card (ISDN), Linux, BEZEQ International and Linux?
On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, Shaul Karl wrote: Just to make sure, are all the above working together? I demand that you will stop discussing such off-topic issues in this mailing list and keep disucssions to on-topic issues, namely Kashrut codes, and religious matters in general. -- --Shaul Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Donate free food to the world's hungry: see http://www.thehungersite.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Yaron. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] HP-UX and vi
On Sun, 13 Aug 2000, Alexander Indenbaum wrote: Hello! I have strange problem with vi under HP-UX. For example '#' sign could not be typed nor pasted. What do you think? Check with stty. Some old SysV use # as del. Just add the appropriate stty erase command to your .cshrc/.profile . -- Alexander Indenbaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Yaron. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: My distro is better ( was RE: need 4 RH-6.2)
Once again a relevant quote (scene 10): " BRIAN: Brothers! Brothers! We should be struggling together! FRANCIS: We are! Ohh. BRIAN: We mustn't fight each other! Surely we should be united against the common enemy! EVERYONE: The Judean People's Front?! BRIAN: No, no! The Romans! EVERYONE: Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. FRANCIS: Yeah. He's right. RANDOM: Look out! RANDOM: Careful. [clop clop clop clop clop clop clop] DEADLY DIRK: Right! Where were we? FRANCIS: Uhh, you were going to punch me. DEADLY DIRK: Oh, yeah. [C.F.G. and P.F.J. fight] " And yet another one (scene 17): " GIRL: Follow the Gourd! The Holy Gourd of Jerusalem! FOLLOWER: The Gourd! HARRY: Hold up the sandal, as He has commanded us! ARTHUR: It is a shoe! It is a shoe! HARRY: It's a sandal! ARTHUR: No, it isn't! GIRL: Cast it away! ARTHUR: Put it on! " Full quotes can be found at http://bau2.uibk.ac.at/sg/python/Scripts/LifeOfBrian/brian.html -- Yaron (who runs FreeBSD). = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NIS on Linux + Solaris
On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, Vadim Vygonets wrote: Quoth guy keren on Tue, Apr 18, 2000: btw - does this architecture work for all programs on the system transparently? i.e. any program that tried to fetch any NIS map, will be refered to taking data via the LDAP server? in other words - are all NIS requests routed via ypbind, or they go directly to the (remote) NIS server? All go via ypbind.So this is less of a problem if you're talking about accounting only.It is possible to emulate ypbind interface with a program which really connects to an LDAP server. Actually, you can use ypldapd (a commerical product) which provides a YP interface to an LDAP server. So you can run LDAP and still support old YP clients. It costs about $1000. I haven't used it. Vadik. -- Prof: So the American government went to IBM to come up with a data encryption standard and they came up with ... Student: EBCDIC! = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Yaron. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: console ftp client
On Fri, 14 Apr 2000, Ben-Nes Michael wrote: Hi What is the best ftp client for console ? (need time wait before trying to reconnect retry connect if connection cut in the middle) There is an automounter map which lets you access anon-ftp as part of your file system (just like /net or /hosts for NFS). -- -- Canaan Surfing Ltd. Internet Service Providers Ben-Nes Michael - Manager Tel: 972-6-6925757 Fax: 972-6-6925858 http://www.canaan.co.il -- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" inthe message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Yaron. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RH6.2
On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Eli Marmor wrote: Hi, A friend of me (CC of this message) wants to upgrade to RH6.2, and intended to download it from abroad, when I told him that it is available in Israel too. I even remember that people here gave some pointers and links to local mirrors, but I don't remember the addresses. So if anybody remembers an address of a local FTP mirror of RH6.2, please answer. In addition, I believe that a CD for a nominal price will be welcome too. ftp://ftp.tau.ac.il/pub/OS (He should see LAN speed (10Mb/s), as the inter-university connection is over MAGNET (155Mb)). Thanks in advance, -- Eli Marmor = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Yaron. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: sun products sellers in israel
On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Guy Cohen wrote: Who are the compenies who sell sun products (hardware) in israel, other then emc and sintec ? Publicom does Sun (as an EM reseller). Ankor and Minix do Sun clones (they take Sun boards and put them in a case with various peripherals). They are usually cheaper by 30-50% of a similar Sun (list price, no special discounts). Thanks, Guy Cohen. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Yaron. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: If Linux distributions were Airlines
On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, Ely Levy wrote: And they now thier pilots are trained in running all linux airplains as well;) btw where did you see bsdi and freebsd mergin? Check http://www.bsdi.com/press/2310.mhtml . Ely Levy System group Hebrew University Jerusalem Israel -- Yaron. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: True 64 Unix ?
On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Ariel Biener wrote: On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Ury Segal wrote: If you want to buy a strong Workstation, it is obvious you will want to compare several solutions. Since both Sun and Compaq (Digital) offer ones, it makes perfect sense to compare their solutions as a whole, the CPU itself only a part of the comparison. You will want to compare The Applications available, easy of management, proofed past installation,Superset, Stability, Security, Accuracy. There are many reason you want to compare Tru64and Solaris. That is correct, but from the mail you sent, I was under the impression you already have an Alpha. What is this. Find a reason not to study contest. Stop that right now and go study. You have an exam on Thursday ! --Ariel --Ariel It's off-topic, but may be somebody knows what is 'True 64 Unix' (Compaq/Digital - Alpha). What is good? What is bad? Linux vs. 'True 64 Unix' on Alpha (I know Linux is FREE, but...) Solaris vs 'True 64 Unix' ? Any references? Any comments? === Felix A. Shvaiger mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ariel Biener e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work phone: 03-6406086 fingerprint = 07 D1 E5 3E EF 6D E5 82 0B E9 21 D4 3C 7D 8B BC = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ariel Biener e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work phone: 03-6406086 fingerprint = 07 D1 E5 3E EF 6D E5 82 0B E9 21 D4 3C 7D 8B BC = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Yaron. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD
On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Nimrod Mesika wrote: I'm interesting in comparing FreeBSD's SMP performance to Linux. Anyone has a FreeBSD 3.3 CD that I can duplicate (or willing to do that for me)? The basic OS requires a single CD which can be downloaded (see http://www.freebsd.org/releases/3.3R/errata.html). The entire distribution is four CDs. Send me a blank CD (or four of them if you'd like) and I will roast you a copy. -- Nimrod. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Yaron. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Linux sysadmin course.
On Wed, 8 Sep 1999, Iftach Hyams wrote: Sela give courses, but I don't know if it is specific Linux. Anyhow, other courses about Unix they give are actually based on Linux machines. Hmm. Actually, I teach Unix Sysadmin course (U4) for Sela. It is for Solaris. The sadna was on Linux, but it is on Solaris 7 now. Thanks anyway. - Iftach Hyams [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04 831 5605 The First Law of Window Cleaning: It's on the other side. -- From: Yaron Zabary[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: ? 07 1999? 21:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Linux sysadmin course. Hello, Does anyone know of some place which gives advanced Linux sysadmin courses ? -- Yaron. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Yaron. ÿÿ To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBsd
On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo wrote: YZ I've been using FreeBSD for a couple of years now. IMO, its strong YZ points (compared to Linux) are: I'm a bit surprised how many myphologized is a mind of an average advocate. What you say is "standard 'Linux sucks' advocate kit". As most "standart advocate kits", it's built on myths that or were true 5 years ago, or were always false. I didn't say that Linux sucks. I said that FreeBSD has some stronger points. YZ. It is based on sources from a single source (UCB CSRG), while Linux is YZ derived from many non complaint sources. Well, ITYM "non-compliant". In fact, just yesterday I've read an article that says BSD is better because in Linux you have just Alan and Linus in full control of code, while in BSD it's full team. You are confusing an OS and a kernel. These are not the same. An OS has a kernel and a few more supporting programs. YZ. The develpment cycle is slower. A stable major release every three to This is an advantage, yeah? So now development at all means a perfect system? Slower means added stability. Rabid upgrades make systems less stable. I am not suggesting that Linux cannot be stabalized in that respect. It just seems that people are upgrading "becuase they can". YZ. The development cycle is centralized. Authorized developers are making YZ changes to a central cvs repository. You'll be surprised, but there's some little guy named Linus Torvalds, who has a little kernel tree that is akinda official. Isn't this a thing you call "centralized"? Again. OS vs. kernel. Linus maintains the kernel tree, not the OS tree. YZ. The development cycle contains all major OS parts. This means that when YZ you say FreeBSD 3.2, you are refering not only to a kernel, but also to YZ libc and most system binaries (such as ln, awk, grep etc). I know yet another system which has almost all system binaries intergated into the OS. I do not like that OS. Developing an OS and developing awk is different things. Side note: I could guess what you meant, but you said totally different thing... Let me iterate. Developing kernel and other OS parts, such as libc, other libraries and /usr/bin in the same cvs tree makes the system more integrated. There is less chance that changes to libc will break calls in grep, because after you make your changes, you compile everything together. YZ. Its UFS is more stable than ext2fs which optimizes like hell. See SGI's YZ initiative of donating XFS sources to Linux. Which one does optimize? ext2fs optimizes to a dangerous level. And why donating XFS means UFS is better than ext2? I think I've lost your point here. SGI, being a Linux advocate and a company that wants to ship Linux on a commercial basis for their systems wanted a file system that delivers, so they offered a better one. YZSummary: my choise for a stable, fast, conservative network server. Did you try a marketing job in a big corporation? Nope. I do sysadmin for a living. P.S. Could we bury this holy war now? Actually, I had no intention of starting a flame war (althogh i suspect it might end as such). There were no personal insults in my mail. If you want to promote BSD, get beyond pack of myths and *promote* it, not demote Linux. Saying "X is worse" is not the same as saying "Y is better". Think positive. If you read my mail carefully, you'd notice that all sentences are relating to FreeBSD in an explicit positive manner (and not to Linux in a negative manner). -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]\/There shall be counsels taken Stanislav Malyshev/\Stronger than Morgul-spells phone +972-3-9316425 /\ JRRT LotR. http://sharat.co.il/frodo/whois:!SM8333 Quoting: " BRIAN: Brothers! Brothers! We should be struggling together! FRANCIS: We are! Ohh. BRIAN: We mustn't fight each other! Surely we should be united against the common enemy! EVERYONE: The Judean People's Front?! BRIAN: No, no! The Romans! EVERYONE: Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. FRANCIS: Yeah. He's right. " http://bau2.uibk.ac.at/sg/python/Scripts/LifeOfBrian/brian-10.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Yaron. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBsd
On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Adam Morrison wrote: Yaron Zabary wrote: I've been using FreeBSD for a couple of years now. IMO, its strong points (compared to Linux) are: . Its networking code is better. This seems to be an argument flogged about greatly, but it REALLY depends on what you mean by ``better''. Performance wise, I don't know.It's hard to do good benchmarks and I haven't performed any.Plus, results change all the time. These days, you are probably right. Performance-wise, Linux has probably improved a lot. Cutting edge wise?I'd say that Linux appears to adopt changes faster than BSD does.But what does this really say? For example, in traditional BSD stacks, every TCP timing activity (RTO, delayed acking, etc) are based on heartbeat timers and are therefore coarse grained.Just a few days ago, FreeBSD commited changes to their tree thatreplaced these timers with callout wheel based timers, increasing the TCP timer granularity.Linux, IIRC, has had fine-grained timers forever.On the other hand, it's not exceptionally clear how big a win this is.In fact, some research indicates that fine granularity clocks may not be so great. Linux is indeed known for faster adoption of technologies. I think the appropriate line is that BSD code is more stable than the Linux networking code.It is definitely more mature. I suppose we can agree on that one as well. After all, BSD is the place where TCP/IP started its life. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Yaron. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Reading Hebrew sites with Netscape
On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Ben-Nes Michael wrote: I wonder whyNetscape didnt do it !! :-( They have swidish Netscape but Not Hebrew, thats sucks !! Maybe we all as a group can ask them to fix there Browsers. Mayebe you could go to mozilla.org and do that yourself. The sources are there for exactly this purpose. They do cvs, so just suck in the cvs tree and start working. -- Yaron. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PC Weasel
On Sun, 29 Aug 1999, Gaal Yahas wrote: Sounds useful: http://www.realweasel.com/ They make an ISA card that gives you "stop-A" like functionality for PCs. At long last. A dream comes true. -- believing is seeing [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.forum2.org/gaal/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Yaron. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Info about auditing
On Fri, 20 Aug 1999, marik wrote: Hello. we are looing for information about auditing inlinux esepcially the following topics: audit deamon audit file structure Thank you Take a look at sa(8), accton(8) and acct(2). This is the best you can get with any stock Linux (or BSD based system). You could try and convince Memco to sell you their Linux version for SeOS (it is not a commercial product). Marik Raanan = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Yaron. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Short question
Die thread, die. -- Yaron. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Short question
On Mon, 9 Aug 1999, Isaac Aaron wrote: Hi Does anybody know a shell command that allows me to run something in the background immediately? I've looked in to the alternatives - at: Doesn't fit my need. I need to run it now. You could at now + 0 minutes batch: Batch run a process immed. only if the load average is lower than 0.8. cron: Same as at. issuing the command with the sign: This will run as a nested process. When I'll close the terminal, the command will shut with it. Or use nohup as described by another poster. Anyone? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Yaron. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thrashing and Crashing
On Mon, 12 Jul 1999, Omer wrote: Small comment: The x2 rule doesn't actually mean anything now, as far as I know this rule-of-thumb comes from unices which will not use RAM unless they have swap to shadow it with. That is correct. The "swap should be twice the RAM" rule holds true for BSD prior to version 4.4 (4.3 and below). It is not true for BSD 4.4 and SysV, as well as Linux. You can use this rule if you don't have any idea what will be your total process size. Of course, in this case, with 32MB of RAM he could use 128MB of swap. The system shouldn't be paging that much with 32Mb RAM. This configuration sounds very reasonable for X and netscape. As usuall, adding more RAM will improve performance. Adding more swap will not improve performance, it will just let you run your applications. I would guess that your netscape is indeed running out of swap, so it would be a good idea to add some. Assuming you are not into re-partition and install and no extra disk is laying around unused, I would advise that you will do this using a swap file (rather than a swap partition). Purists might argue that this will be slower, but it will do the job. Take a look at mkswap(8) and swapon(8) for more details, but basiclly you should do the following: dd if=/dev/zero of=/var/extraswap count=100 bs=1024k mkswap /var/extraswap swapon /var/extraswap This will give you 100Mb of swap (assuming you have a spare 100Mb on /var). Don't forget to add this to your /etc/fstab so that it will be added after each boot. -- Yaron. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fast Ethernet PCMCIA card for Linux.
Hello all, I am looking for a FE PCMCIA card for Linux (supported under RH6.0). I need something that is being sold here in Israel. It need to be able to perform good (~50Mbps). The card should go into Compaq Armada 4150 (or a Dell Latitude if this would make a difference). I have spoke with the following: 1. Binat, which sell Silicom. Silicom are not supporting Linux anymore (they used to for their 10baseX cards). 2. Sisconet (?) only do 3Com (which is said to have performance problems). 3. Taga carries Xircom (I have one on loan on my desk and will hopefully test it later this evening :-(). Their first Kingstons will only get here next week. 4. Linksys (US) has no Israeli distributor. Looking at the supported cards I found the following: [3c574_cs driver: has performance problems] 3Com 3c574TX, 3CCFE574BT [3c575_cb driver: experimental!] 3Com 3c575TX, 3CCFE575BT, 3CXFE575BT CardBus Intel EtherExpress PRO/100 [ 16-bit, NOT 32-bit ] The rest of the gang are cards which I never heard of and don't know anything about. Does anyone have a working FE card they can recommend ? TIA. -- Yaron. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
