Re: [ANNOUNCE] Kazit2 beta released
Hi Shlomi, Here are my observations of you remaster: general: * Thin-Keramic is nice, but keramic is better if you want a better unified desktop * qt3.2 has some issues, for example look in kicker for the hide buttons, also in kde3.2 there are issues with khtml, i could not test them since i had problems with iwiz, downgrade to qt3.1 please. * iwiz should be in configuration menu * iwiz should run as root (sudo or whatever?) * iwiz does not run even in root, since it needs to wite in RO dirs: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iwiz ls: /usr/share/internet_db/connections/*.tar.gz: No such file or directory tar (child): /usr/share/internet_db/connections/My Connection.tar.gz: Cannot open: Read-only file system tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now * localized graphics maybe? * touch /etc/modules/2.4.22-xfs... and friends (they are older then other files) * can you map the win key to the kemnu? (mdk does that) * please add gtkgraph, or better program (kde based a BIG plus!) things that may be removed without any problems: * where is the show dektop button? * mixer volume is is 50%, can it be put to 95%? * qparted does not load * xine is not setup up to play avi's by default * the same for xmms * set the default font in konsole to console please * xmms-bidi? i see only garbage in files, try LC_CTYPE=he_IL.ISO-8859-8 biditext xmms works in mdk9.2 - remove bochs no default image. and why the hell do i need it in knopix? - remove wine hard to configure on real boxes. no autodetection of any thing. rarely works (from my experience) + bb ownz! (whwre can iget more of this?) i have seen demos... but this is definetly my favorite (my other two are one for windows with great sound sync and another one from the 4k asm contest) + OO1 final! + gideon and not kdevelop! full hebrew style - * FireBird uses a diffedrent font for menu then system (kde) lindows style - * please use ksplash-ml and set the splash to xp mac style: -- * hack please the karamba theme to show the k menu on the right * use the same background image as full hebrew style Looks great btw, real love as been put into this project. Just need to fix some small things and you are done. IMHO release kazit 2, before kde3.2 with kde3.1, since there are many problems regarding hebrew there. You may want to do kazit 2.1 with kde3.2 but IMHO kde3.2 will not be really do your remaster until kde3.2.2 or kde3.2.3. Stick to kde3.1.X. , 11 2003, 22:11,shlomi: On October 11th 2003, the Kazit Project released the first beta release of Kazit2. Kazit started as a Hebrew-localized KnoppixKDE remaster (http://www.kde.org/il/knoppixkde/). however , KnoppixKDE is no longer under development. Kazit2 is a remaster based on Knoppix3.3 It's purpose is to provide a Knoppix version with full Hebrew support. (*) FEATURES: * All locale setting were set to work as UTF8 * Hebrew language packages installed * Improved keyboared layout switcher * Open office upgraded to version 1.1 (no language packages) * HSpell installed using 'multispell' for both Hebrew and English spell checking * Works with Culmus fonts by default * Added a textual menu on startup for choosing between full Hebrew or Hebrew enabled modes * Several Hebrew related packages were installed: fribidi, bidiv, hebcal, qtzmanim, switcher * Some tools (iwiz, my 012 PPTP script) for dialling PPTP/ADSL * the 'Frozen bubble' game was not removed this time :D (*) MORE INFO: For additional information in Hebrew: http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/pub/kazit2/kazit.index.html For a list of packaged that were removed browse: http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/pub/kazit2/kazit-2.0-beta-packages-removed.txt For a list of packages that were added browse: http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/pub/kazit2/kazit-2.0-beta-packages-added.txt for a full list (output of 'dpkg -l') : http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/pub/kazit2/kazit-2.0-beta-packages-full-list.t xt Please note that these are unstable development releases with missing or non-working features and are not intended for production systems. If you think that some package should be included, please email me and explain what package and why you think it should be included. Requests will be considered for the next release. (*) DOWNLOAD ISO file available for download at: http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/pub/kazit2/ (*) FUTURE I would like to receive as many as possible fixes and bug reports and release Kazit2-final when kde3.2 get released. There might be another Beta release till the final one. (*) SCREENSHOTS/ Not available yet, will be later on. (*) I hope you'll find this remaster useful, it can be a great tool for Linux marketing IMO. -- diego, 16 Tishrey 5764 Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html To unsubscribe, send mail to
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Kazit2 beta released
On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 12:12:26PM +, Diego Iastrubni wrote: Hi Shlomi, Here are my observations of you remaster: general: * Thin-Keramic is nice, but keramic is better if you want a better unified desktop One note: the KDE cursor that knoppix so likes (left_ptr) was too delicate and did a good job of hiding in the background of my laptop (some compaq) * qt3.2 has some issues, for example look in kicker for the hide buttons, also * can you map the win key to the kemnu? (mdk does that) I personally rather use it as a language keyboard switcher. You have two of them, located on both sides of the keyboard. Thus you can always press on one of them with one hand when the other hand presses on a relevant key (for typing a number of words in the other language). * please add gtkgraph, or better program (kde based a BIG plus!) things that may be removed without any problems: * where is the show dektop button? Who needs it? Why should there be any important items on the desktop at all? put important items in places where they can't be hidden. * mixer volume is is 50%, can it be put to 95%? * qparted does not load * xine is not setup up to play avi's by default * the same for xmms * set the default font in konsole to console please * xmms-bidi? i see only garbage in files, try LC_CTYPE=he_IL.ISO-8859-8 biditext xmms works in mdk9.2 BTW: are fat/ntfs partitions mounted with the option 'utf8' ? + bb ownz! (whwre can iget more of this?) Add that aalib webcam ;-) + OO1 final! BTW: what about OOo with Hebrew localization? What is its status? -- Tzafrir Cohen +---+ http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir/ |vim is a mutt's best friend| mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +---+ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Kazit2 beta released
For some reason, 2 of my last posts to this list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) were lost =0 Anyway, this is a repost, i hope you don't get it doubled. Tzafrir Cohen wrote: One note: the KDE cursor that knoppix so likes (left_ptr) was too delicate and did a good job of hiding in the background of my laptop (some compaq) maybe i should remove this silly cursor ? ... i don't really like it either. * qt3.2 has some issues, for example look in kicker for the hide buttons, also * can you map the win key to the kemnu? (mdk does that) I personally rather use it as a language keyboard switcher. You have two of them, located on both sides of the keyboard. Thus you can always press on one of them with one hand when the other hand presses on a relevant key (for typing a number of words in the other language). * where is the show dektop button? Who needs it? Why should there be any important items on the desktop at all? put important items in places where they can't be hidden. BTW: are fat/ntfs partitions mounted with the option 'utf8' ? i changed all mount commands in /etc/init.d/knopppix-autocinfig to mount with this option, however, it still has some issues. the option iso8859-8,codepage=... worked better in kazit1 as far as i recall. i'm considering to change it back. + bb ownz! (whwre can iget more of this?) Add that aalib webcam ;-) + OO1 final! BTW: what about OOo with Hebrew localization? What is its status? i was told that it is still in testing stages and not stable enough. Diego Iastrubni wrote: Here are my observations of you remaster: general: * Thin-Keramic is nice, but keramic is better if you want a better unified desktop i wish KDE would switch to thin-keramic, it looks much better :\ anyways, you're right about this...and i think thin-keramic has some issues. * qt3.2 has some issues, for example look in kicker for the hide buttons, also in kde3.2 there are issues with khtml, i could not test them since i had problems with iwiz, downgrade to qt3.1 please. The hide buttons look like that because of thinKeramic - i set the flat panels option. what other issues does qt3.2 have? * iwiz should be in configuration menu * iwiz should run as root (sudo or whatever?) * iwiz does not run even in root, since it needs to wite in RO dirs: it's kinda hard for me to test since i don't have to use it to connect. BTW, what kind of connection do you have? i have not tested all this iwiz stuff yet, and i don't really have a way to test it. but I'll see what i can do. That why i didn't put a shortcut on desktop. because it's still experimental. There are links for it in the menu i think, generated by my Debian packing , in 'Applications'. * localized graphics maybe? what do you mean ? * touch /etc/modules/2.4.22-xfs... and friends (they are older then other files) OK. i know about this. * can you map the win key to the kemnu? (mdk does that) do you know how to do it in Knoppix? * please add gtkgraph, or better program (kde based a BIG plus!) OK. things that may be removed without any problems: huh? * where is the show dektop button? Huh ? i see it in it's usual place. * mixer volume is is 50%, can it be put to 95%? yes, i think it's a matter of adding another conf file OK. * qparted does not load i didn't touch it. does it load in Knoppix3.3 ? * xine is not setup up to play avi's by default * the same for xmms what? you mean you don't use Noatun and Kaboodle ? :D OK. * set the default font in konsole to console please OK, Knoppix default really is ugly, isn't it? * xmms-bidi? i see only garbage in files, try LC_CTYPE=he_IL.ISO-8859-8 biditext xmms works in mdk9.2 xmms-bidi is experimental package i built with patch from http://xmms-bidi.sourceforge.net it works great on my system, but for unknown reason, still doesn't work on Knoppix. I'm working on it. - remove bochs no default image. and why the hell do i need it in knopix? why you ask? hmm , don't know .. it's Knoppix! it has a lot of junk in it , but it's kinda fun to play with all this junk, don't you think ? - remove wine hard to configure on real boxes. no autodetection of any thing. rarely works (from my experience) i never used it, but don't you think it might become useful? + bb ownz! (whwre can iget more of this?) i have seen demos... but this is definetly my favorite (my other two are one for windows with great sound sync and another one from the 4k asm contest) LOL, yes, it's cool, i didn't put it in, it comes with Knoppix3.3 This is the homepage of AA-project : http://aa-project.sourceforge.net/ Check out this ASCII-mpeg-player : http://spondooliks.org/alex/apron/apron.php3 + OO1 final! With the crystal icons, like you requested :) + gideon and not kdevelop! i didn't check yet if you can compile a simple KDE hello, world! application. some libs might be missing. full hebrew style - * FireBird uses
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Kazit2 beta released
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: BTW: are fat/ntfs partitions mounted with the option 'utf8' ? oopsi, it seems that i didn't change one important thing in knoppix-autocong, the one that genetares the fstab file. :-| So vfat and ntfs will not be mounted as utf8 ... but now i fixed it and patched knoppix-autoconfig once again :-\ Anyway, it'll be fixed in beta2. Shlomi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Kazit2 beta released
Diego Iastrubni wrote: Here are my observations of you remaster: general: * Thin-Keramic is nice, but keramic is better if you want a better unified desktop i wish KDE would switch to thin-keramic, it looks much better :\ anyways, you're right about this...and i think thin-keramic has some issues. * qt3.2 has some issues, for example look in kicker for the hide buttons, also in kde3.2 there are issues with khtml, i could not test them since i had problems with iwiz, downgrade to qt3.1 please. The hide buttons look like that because of thinKeramic - i set the flat panels option. what other issues does qt3.2 have? * iwiz should be in configuration menu * iwiz should run as root (sudo or whatever?) * iwiz does not run even in root, since it needs to wite in RO dirs: it's kinda hard for me to test since i don't have to use it to connect. BTW, what kind of connection do you have? i have not tested all this iwiz stuff yet, and i don't really have a way to test it. but I'll see what i can do. That why i didn't put a shortcut on desktop. because it's still experimental. There are links for it in the menu i think, generated by my Debian packing , in 'Applications'. * localized graphics maybe? what do you mean ? * touch /etc/modules/2.4.22-xfs... and friends (they are older then other files) OK. i know about this. * can you map the win key to the kemnu? (mdk does that) do you know how to do it in Knoppix? * please add gtkgraph, or better program (kde based a BIG plus!) OK. things that may be removed without any problems: huh? * where is the show dektop button? Huh ? i see it in it's usual place. * mixer volume is is 50%, can it be put to 95%? yes, i think it's a matter of adding another conf file OK. * qparted does not load i didn't touch it. does it load in Knoppix3.3 ? * xine is not setup up to play avi's by default * the same for xmms what? you mean you don't use Noatun and Kaboodle ? :D OK. * set the default font in konsole to console please OK, Knoppix default really is ugly, isn't it? * xmms-bidi? i see only garbage in files, try LC_CTYPE=he_IL.ISO-8859-8 biditext xmms works in mdk9.2 xmms-bidi is experimental package i built with patch from http://xmms-bidi.sourceforge.net it works great on my system, but for unknown reason, still doesn't work on Knoppix. I'm working on it. - remove bochs no default image. and why the hell do i need it in knopix? why you ask? hmm , don't know .. it's Knoppix! it has a lot of junk in it , but it's kinda fun to play with all this junk, don't you think ? - remove wine hard to configure on real boxes. no autodetection of any thing. rarely works (from my experience) i never used it, but don't you think it might become useful? + bb ownz! (whwre can iget more of this?) i have seen demos... but this is definetly my favorite (my other two are one for windows with great sound sync and another one from the 4k asm contest) LOL, yes, it's cool, i didn't put it in, it comes with Knoppix3.3 This is the homepage of AA-project : http://aa-project.sourceforge.net/ Check out this ASCII-mpeg-player : http://spondooliks.org/alex/apron/apron.php3 + OO1 final! With the crystal icons, like you requested :) + gideon and not kdevelop! i didn't check yet if you can compile a simple KDE hello, world! application. some libs might be missing. full hebrew style - * FireBird uses a diffedrent font for menu then system (kde) i couldn't find where to change FB's font. do you know where? lindows style - * please use ksplash-ml and set the splash to xp i can't seem to find a Debian package for ksplash-ml. (actually i found one but it was broken) i might have to build it myself. too much work for a silly thing :) but I'll consider it. mac style: -- * hack please the karamba theme to show the k menu on the right do you any idea how to do this ? if you do, please send a full dcop command. * use the same background image as full hebrew style why? i think it looks nice. i wanted something brighter for the Mac-style Looks great btw, real love as been put into this project. Just need to fix some small things and you are done. :) IMHO release kazit 2, before kde3.2 with kde3.1, since there are many problems regarding hebrew there. You may want to do kazit 2.1 with kde3.2 but IMHO kde3.2 will not be really do your remaster until kde3.2.2 or kde3.2.3. Stick to kde3.1.X. Diego, Thanks a lot for your comments. This really helps :) Shlomi. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[ANNOUNCE] Kazit2 beta released
On October 11th 2003, the Kazit Project released the first beta release of Kazit2. Kazit started as a Hebrew-localized KnoppixKDE remaster (http://www.kde.org/il/knoppixkde/). however , KnoppixKDE is no longer under development. Kazit2 is a remaster based on Knoppix3.3 It's purpose is to provide a Knoppix version with full Hebrew support. (*) FEATURES: * All locale setting were set to work as UTF8 * Hebrew language packages installed * Improved keyboared layout switcher * Open office upgraded to version 1.1 (no language packages) * HSpell installed using 'multispell' for both Hebrew and English spell checking * Works with Culmus fonts by default * Added a textual menu on startup for choosing between full Hebrew or Hebrew enabled modes * Several Hebrew related packages were installed: fribidi, bidiv, hebcal, qtzmanim, switcher * Some tools (iwiz, my 012 PPTP script) for dialling PPTP/ADSL * the 'Frozen bubble' game was not removed this time :D (*) MORE INFO: For additional information in Hebrew: http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/pub/kazit2/kazit.index.html For a list of packaged that were removed browse: http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/pub/kazit2/kazit-2.0-beta-packages-removed.txt For a list of packages that were added browse: http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/pub/kazit2/kazit-2.0-beta-packages-added.txt for a full list (output of 'dpkg -l') : http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/pub/kazit2/kazit-2.0-beta-packages-full-list.txt Please note that these are unstable development releases with missing or non-working features and are not intended for production systems. If you think that some package should be included, please email me and explain what package and why you think it should be included. Requests will be considered for the next release. (*) DOWNLOAD ISO file available for download at: http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/pub/kazit2/ (*) FUTURE I would like to receive as many as possible fixes and bug reports and release Kazit2-final when kde3.2 get released. There might be another Beta release till the final one. (*) SCREENSHOTS/ Not available yet, will be later on. (*) I hope you'll find this remaster useful, it can be a great tool for Linux marketing IMO. -- Shlomi Loubaton. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Kazit2 beta released
Some tools (iwiz, my 012 PPTP script) for dialing PPTP/ADSL The iwiz (Kinneret's Internet Wizard) is already in there. As far as I can understand, Shlomi only added features to Knoppix, without removing the existing ones. Regards, Lior Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Guides.co.il Come to write at the forums: http://www.guides.co.il/forums - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: shlomi [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 8:55 PM Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Kazit2 beta released Is it possible to install Kazit on the hard disk as it is with Knoppix? What about adding the Internet connection wizard of Kinneret? On Sunday 12 October 2003 00:11, shlomi wrote: On October 11th 2003, the Kazit Project released the first beta release of Kazit2. Kazit started as a Hebrew-localized KnoppixKDE remaster (http://www.kde.org/il/knoppixkde/). however , KnoppixKDE is no longer under development. Kazit2 is a remaster based on Knoppix3.3 It's purpose is to provide a Knoppix version with full Hebrew support. (*) FEATURES: * All locale setting were set to work as UTF8 * Hebrew language packages installed * Improved keyboared layout switcher * Open office upgraded to version 1.1 (no language packages) * HSpell installed using 'multispell' for both Hebrew and English spell checking * Works with Culmus fonts by default * Added a textual menu on startup for choosing between full Hebrew or Hebrew enabled modes * Several Hebrew related packages were installed: fribidi, bidiv, hebcal, qtzmanim, switcher * Some tools (iwiz, my 012 PPTP script) for dialling PPTP/ADSL * the 'Frozen bubble' game was not removed this time :D (*) MORE INFO: For additional information in Hebrew: http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/pub/kazit2/kazit.index.html For a list of packaged that were removed browse: http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/pub/kazit2/kazit-2.0-beta-packages-removed.txt For a list of packages that were added browse: http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/pub/kazit2/kazit-2.0-beta-packages-added.txt for a full list (output of 'dpkg -l') : http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/pub/kazit2/kazit-2.0-beta-packages-full-list.t xt Please note that these are unstable development releases with missing or non-working features and are not intended for production systems. If you think that some package should be included, please email me and explain what package and why you think it should be included. Requests will be considered for the next release. (*) DOWNLOAD ISO file available for download at: http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/pub/kazit2/ (*) FUTURE I would like to receive as many as possible fixes and bug reports and release Kazit2-final when kde3.2 get released. There might be another Beta release till the final one. (*) SCREENSHOTS/ Not available yet, will be later on. (*) I hope you'll find this remaster useful, it can be a great tool for Linux marketing IMO. -- Shlomi Loubaton. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- (Kmail) == To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Kazit2 beta released
Lior Kaplan wrote: Some tools (iwiz, my 012 PPTP script) for dialing PPTP/ADSL The iwiz (Kinneret's Internet Wizard) is already in there. As far as I can understand, Shlomi only added features to Knoppix, without removing the existing ones. Regards, Lior Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Guides.co.il Yes, that is correct. About installation: i think it should work but i didn't try it yet. This part was not hebrewlized yet anyway. My guess is that it would work the same way as knoppix 3.3 does, that is , install a unstable/testing debian system Shlomi. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
