Re: Fwd: Where'd the cpu cycles go ?

2002-11-05 Thread Guy Baruch

3.5 orders of magnitude suggests he went from ram access (perhaps cache) 
to disk access.
my guess is your configuration of 8.0 takes more memory = he's thrashing.

what does free tells him in each case ?


Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:

Be careful with RH 8. 0 if you plan to use it on some heavy workload with some 
scripts...

Thanks,
Hetz


 


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Re: Fwd: Where'd the cpu cycles go ?

2002-11-05 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Well, the answer is a big different...

If you run this script with en_US encoding and NOT utf8 - you would see the 
missing speed. Apparently there's a bug with grep when it comes to utf8 
handling (redhat and Alan confirmed that)..

So, if you're running lots of scripts on RH 8.0, maybe you should add a simple 
en_US encoding to the beginning of your script...

Thanks,
Hetz

On Tuesday 05 November 2002 08:46, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:
 On Mon, 2002-11-04 at 23:10, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
  Be careful with RH 8. 0 if you plan to use it on some heavy workload with
  some scripts...

 Warning: This email is written before the first coffee of the morning.
 Please forgive me in advance... :-)

 I'm probably stupid (see above), but he didn't mention running it on the
 same *computer*. I mean, I would expect much more for this to be a
 result of some hardware related problem (HD operating with DMA off for
 example or some such) rather then some the wide VM problem it seems to
 be hinting at.

 In short, I think something is wrong in his configuratrion (and this may
 or may not be related to RH8.0) rather then to a bug somwewhere.

 Gilad


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Re: Fwd: Where'd the cpu cycles go ?

2002-11-05 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, 5 Nov 2002, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:

 Well, the answer is a big different...

 If you run this script with en_US encoding and NOT utf8 - you would see the
 missing speed. Apparently there's a bug with grep when it comes to utf8
 handling (redhat and Alan confirmed that)..

 So, if you'rerunning lots of scripts on RH 8.0, maybe you should add a simple
 en_US encoding to the beginning of your script...

Actually: 'en_US' is not guaranteed to exist. And is not guaranteed not to
be UTF-8. 'C' will always be there.  it is pure ascii. (And it is 4
letters shorter, which is why I have not suggested 'POSIX' ;-) )

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Fwd: Where'd the cpu cycles go ?

2002-11-04 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Be careful with RH 8. 0 if you plan to use it on some heavy workload with some 
scripts...

Thanks,
Hetz

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Subject: Where'd the cpu cycles go ?
Date: Monday 04 November 2002 13:30
From: Greg Hosler [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi,

I just came across a real performance bog in Red Hat 8.0

I noticed one of my sysadmin scripts going painfully slow, and running the
 cpu at 100%. upon some investigation, I noticed that a certain grep
 statement was choking the cpu.

I've generated a shell script which duplicates that particular performance
bog-down, but I can't pinpoint where the cpu's being hogged.

The script generates a file (a.out) a little over a meg big, some 9
 lines, and then times a grep thru the file.

running this same script on Red Hat 7.3, I see times of (on average) .07
 seconds to run the grep.

On Red Hat 8.0, the same grep takes over 6 and a half minutes (no joke!).
 (i.e. a 4000 times difference, from under a tenth of a second, to almost 400
 seconds)

My first thought was what happened to grep, so I mounted my RH7.3 /
partition on /mnt/root, and ran /mnt/root/bin/grep, and it also took the long
path, so it's not grep. I ran a quick query in bugzilla (querying description
and/or Summary for performance, and didn't see anything related.

Can anyone reproduce (or void) my results ?

-Greg

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Re: Fwd: Where'd the cpu cycles go ?

2002-11-04 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Mon, 2002-11-04 at 23:10, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
 Be careful with RH 8. 0 if you plan to use it on some heavy workload with some 
 scripts...

Warning: This email is written before the first coffee of the morning.
Please forgive me in advance... :-)

I'm probably stupid (see above), but he didn't mention running it on the
same *computer*. I mean, I would expect much more for this to be a
result of some hardware related problem (HD operating with DMA off for
example or some such) rather then some the wide VM problem it seems to
be hinting at.

In short, I think something is wrong in his configuratrion (and this may
or may not be related to RH8.0) rather then to a bug somwewhere.

Gilad
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