Re: Hebew in Fedora 10.

2009-02-08 Thread Dvir Volk
On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 8:25 AM, Oron Peled o...@actcom.co.il wrote:
 On Saturday, 7 בFebruary 2009, Dvir Volk wrote:
  The Fedora KDE team is heavily testing and bug-fixing KDE-4.2 for
  the release. In about a week it should land in the official
  repositories (which means you would get it if you simply yum update
  your system).

btw, are you sure someone with FC10 will just get kde 4.2 if they
update their system?
isn't this against the usual distro version policy? or is kde 4.1 so
bad they're going to make an exception?

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Re: Hebew in Fedora 10.

2009-02-08 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Sun, 2009-02-08 at 13:24 +0200, Dvir Volk wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 8:25 AM, Oron Peled o...@actcom.co.il wrote:
  On Saturday, 7 בFebruary 2009, Dvir Volk wrote:
   The Fedora KDE team is heavily testing and bug-fixing KDE-4.2 for
   the release. In about a week it should land in the official
   repositories (which means you would get it if you simply yum update
   your system).
 
 btw, are you sure someone with FC10 will just get kde 4.2 if they
 update their system?

Yes.
KDE 4.2 has already pushed to updates-testing; I'd assume it'll land in
-updates in mid-next-week.
(P.S. I'm using KDE 4.2 on a number of workstation (from
KDE-RedHat/testing) and it seems to be stable.)

 isn't this against the usual distro version policy? or is kde 4.1 so
 bad they're going to make an exception?

Nope.
Version upgrade decisions (Beyond, say, GCC, glibc and GNOME) are at the
hands of the package maintainer.

- Gilboa


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Re: Hebew in Fedora 10.

2009-02-08 Thread Oron Peled
On Sunday, 8 בFebruary 2009, Dvir Volk wrote:
 btw, are you sure someone with FC10 will just get kde 4.2 if they
 update their system?

As the links I sent you show, it is in the process (for both F10 and F9).

 isn't this against the usual distro version policy? or is kde 4.1 so
 bad they're going to make an exception?

Depends on which distro. Although there are no hard and fast rules and
each maintainer uses his judgment, Fedora try hard to be fast pacing
distribution. I run 'yum update' daily and maybe once or twice a week
there *aren't* any updates ;-)

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Hebew in Fedora 10.

2009-02-07 Thread Dotan Cohen
I installed Fedora 10 with KDE 4. I have installed kde-i18n-Hebrew
however I still cannot add the Hebrew language in System Settings.
What else should I add? I have been googling for an hour and gotten no
where. Thanks.

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Re: Hebew in Fedora 10.

2009-02-07 Thread Dvir Volk
1. it's a bit confusing - kde-i18-hebrew is the *KDE3* package for some reason.
you should yum install  kde-l10n-Hebrew for kde4 suuport. i tested it
just now and it works fine.

2. i also recommend upgrading to kde 4.2, you have a repository for that here:
http://kde-redhat.sourceforge.net/ (follow the YUM section for
instructions, and enable the kde-testing repo)
it's much much better than what the distro comes with, finally i'm
back to KDE and it's usable again!


On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote:

 I installed Fedora 10 with KDE 4. I have installed kde-i18n-Hebrew
 however I still cannot add the Hebrew language in System Settings.
 What else should I add? I have been googling for an hour and gotten no
 where. Thanks.

 --
 Dotan Cohen

 http://what-is-what.com
 http://gibberish.co.il

 א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת
 ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي
 А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я
 а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я
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Re: Hebew in Fedora 10.

2009-02-07 Thread Oron Peled
On Saturday, 7 בFebruary 2009, Dvir Volk wrote:
 1. it's a bit confusing - kde-i18-hebrew is the *KDE3* package for
 some reason.
 you should yum install  kde-l10n-Hebrew for kde4 suuport. i tested it
 just now and it works fine.

Hebrew didn't make it into KDE-4.1.x, as Diego chose (correctly IMO)
to focus the limited time of the KDE Hebrew team towards having a
better translated KDE-4.2

 2. i also recommend upgrading to kde 4.2, you have a repository for
 that here:
 http://kde-redhat.sourceforge.net/ (follow the YUM section for
 instructions, and enable the kde-testing repo)
 it's much much better than what the distro comes with, finally i'm
 back to KDE and it's usable again!

The Fedora KDE team is heavily testing and bug-fixing KDE-4.2 for
the release. In about a week it should land in the official
repositories (which means you would get it if you simply yum update
your system).

The kde-redhat release are good if:
 - You are in a hurry and need it NOW.
 - Or you want to help debug it (in that case it may be better to
   use the live-cd/DOK spin the team produced --
  http://rdieter.fedorapeople.org/torrents/
   without risking your production system)
 - Or you were using a slowly updating distribution such as RHEL or Centos.

Personally, I'm waiting a week or so (Laziness...)

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Re: Hebew in Fedora 10.

2009-02-07 Thread Dvir Volk
 The Fedora KDE team is heavily testing and bug-fixing KDE-4.2 for
 the release. In about a week it should land in the official
 repositories (which means you would get it if you simply yum update
 your system).

it's stable enough in my book, works better than the stable 4.1. I've
been using it for about a weeek.
rare crashes in plasma when fudging around heavily with widgets. but
that sort of stuff happened on 4.1 too.

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Re: Hebew in Fedora 10.

2009-02-07 Thread Dotan Cohen
 The kde-redhat release are good if:
  - Or you want to help debug it (in that case it may be better to
   use the live-cd/DOK spin the team produced --
  http://rdieter.fedorapeople.org/torrents/
   without risking your production system)

Thanks! Actually, the reason that I am installing Fedora is to test a
few Hebrew strings in Kontact that are wrong in Kubuntu. I'm
downloading the f10-kde-4.2.0-1 torrent now, thanks!

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Re: Hebew in Fedora 10.

2009-02-07 Thread Oron Peled
On Saturday, 7 בFebruary 2009, Dvir Volk wrote:
  The Fedora KDE team is heavily testing and bug-fixing KDE-4.2 for
  the release. In about a week it should land in the official
  repositories (which means you would get it if you simply yum update
  your system).
 
 it's stable enough in my book, works better than the stable 4.1. I've
 been using it for about a weeek.

Indeed, I've installed one of the pre-release torrents on one
workstation and have the same experience. However, it's hard to
blame them for being too careful after they got burned in previous
releases. There aren't many important blockers now except some
problems in bluetooth support in Solid.

 * Meeting summary:
   http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings
 * Dependency bugs:
   https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=kde42

Bye,

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