MDK 9.2

2003-11-16 Thread Shlomo Solomon
Has anyone on the list installed/upgraded to MDK 9.2? If so, any comments, 
problems, suggestions?

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Re: MDK 9.2

2003-11-16 Thread Oded Arbel
ביום ראשון 16 נובמבר 2003, 18:45, נכתב על ידי Shlomo Solomon:
> Has anyone on the list installed/upgraded to MDK 9.2? If so, any comments,
> problems, suggestions?

I've put it on my laptop. 
works fine. 
LVM support in DiskDrake (had it on 9.1, but it had some problems. now it 
works). 
good power managment, ACPI finally working. 
KDE 3.1.3 (not 3.1.4), OpenOffice 1.1, GNOME 2.4, I think but I'm not sure - 
not using it.
Mandrake tools have some bugs but nothing major. not a big improvment over 
9.1, but it has newer software and thats what counts. If you're going to 
install it on your workstation, go ahead. if youre planning on a server - get 
9.1.

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Re: MDK 9.2

2003-11-16 Thread Dovix
I use 9.2 for over a month. Overall, it feels more
robust than 9.1. I no longer experience any freezes,
crashes etc. There are no major new features, but the
increased stability and maturity is a great bonus.

If you have LG CD-ROM, make sure you read the errata
linked from Mandrake's site and have the drive's
fiemware upgraded before you try the install.

Also, as soon as you upgrade make sure to update
security fixes/bugs - there's quite a few of them.

There's a problem with disappearing KDE menus after
massive software updates. This happens on new
installations and is easily cured by running
update-menus.

Other than that, I'm a happy camper.

For other errata, you can check Mandrake's site errata
page.

You can get a review-link, installation guide and
other tips in the following links:

http://www.whatsup.org.il/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=2269
http://www.whatsup.org.il/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=6530


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> Has anyone on the list installed/upgraded to MDK
> 9.2? If so, any comments, 
> problems, suggestions?
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> TIA
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Re: MDK 9.2

2003-11-16 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 11:22:56AM -0800, Dovix wrote:
> I use 9.2 for over a month. Overall, it feels more
> robust than 9.1. I no longer experience any freezes,
> crashes etc. There are no major new features, but the
> increased stability and maturity is a great bonus.
> 
> If you have LG CD-ROM, make sure you read the errata
> linked from Mandrake's site and have the drive's
> fiemware upgraded before you try the install.

There recently-released CDs already include the fixed kernel version,
right?

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Re: MDK 9.2

2003-11-16 Thread Shlomo Solomon
On Monday 17 November 2003 03:34, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 11:22:56AM -0800, Dovix wrote:
> > I use 9.2 for over a month. Overall, it feels more
> > robust than 9.1. I no longer experience any freezes,
> > crashes etc. There are no major new features, but the
> > increased stability and maturity is a great bonus.
> >
> > If you have LG CD-ROM, make sure you read the errata
> > linked from Mandrake's site and have the drive's
> > fiemware upgraded before you try the install.
>
> There recently-released CDs already include the fixed kernel version,
> right?

No - the fix is to get new firmware for the CD - details and a list of 
affected models on the Mandrake site - 
http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/lgerrata.php3 

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Re: MDK 9.2

2003-11-17 Thread Diego Iastrubni
There are some other problems:

1) sometimes if you update the kernel (to 2.4.22-21mdk for example) ext3 root 
partitions cannot be mounted

2) if you "press the magic button", and then reboot, it will ask you to run 
fsck, even if you have an ext3 partition. do not press "y", since it's done 
without flashing the journal. since rc2 was out (i had a clean install of 
9.2rc2, and upgraded the packages to final, parts from cooker parts from 
original disk) i had to reformat my / because of it be carefull.

3) i am not a big gnome user, but i had my problems there. i chose locale 
"ES_sp" from from GDM, and most of gnome was still in english, very few parts 
were in spanish (hebrew is ok, don't worry).

4) ctrl+f1 from gnome does not open the system menu.

5) totem (default media player in mdk92) crashes on me too much. mplayer is 
found even in the d/l edition, and you can add to it the win32 codecs don't 
worry.

6) aspell does not work here, ispell works but it suxors... :-)
i should try hspell. (not included in mdk9.2 by defualt, the binary from the 
official site shuld work quite well, as it did here in rc2).

there are other small things to be fixed. but i if know mandrake as i think i 
do, i doubt they will be fixed. :(

Tzafrir, 
no it's the SAME thing I got last month. the funniest thing is that they 
freezed cooker for 2-3 week for "bug hunting". nothing was committed to 
cooker in those weeks, and 1.5 week after 9.2 was released to club members, 
they put a 150MB update. Nice work :-0

hopefully a new one will come soon (for 9.1 i think there was only one update, 
so i tend to be pessimistic).

ביום ראשון, 16 בנובמבר 2003, 21:22, נכתב על ידי Dovix:
> other tips in the following links:
>
> http://www.whatsup.org.il/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid
>=2269
> http://www.whatsup.org.il/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=6530


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Re: MDK 9.2

2003-11-17 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 06:24:39PM +0200, Diego Iastrubni wrote:
> Tzafrir, 
> no it's the SAME thing I got last month. the funniest thing is that they 
> freezed cooker for 2-3 week for "bug hunting". nothing was committed to 
> cooker in those weeks, and 1.5 week after 9.2 was released to club members, 
> they put a 150MB update. Nice work :-0

Is there a kind soul here that wishes to contribute ISO images of
Mandrake 9.2 that will not harm unpatched LG drives?

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Re: MDK 9.2

2003-11-18 Thread Diego Iastrubni
ביום שני, 17 בנובמבר 2003, 23:28, נכתב על ידי Tzafrir Cohen:
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 06:24:39PM +0200, Diego Iastrubni wrote:
> > Tzafrir,
> > no it's the SAME thing I got last month. the funniest thing is that they
> > freezed cooker for 2-3 week for "bug hunting". nothing was committed to
> > cooker in those weeks, and 1.5 week after 9.2 was released to club
> > members, they put a 150MB update. Nice work :-0
>
> Is there a kind soul here that wishes to contribute ISO images of
> Mandrake 9.2 that will not harm unpatched LG drives?

There are a few, I will look up, and report here (should we mirror them as 
well?)

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Re: MDK 9.2

2003-11-18 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 02:07:19PM +0200, Diego Iastrubni wrote:
> ביום שני, 17 בנובמבר 2003, 23:28, נכתב על ידי Tzafrir Cohen:
> > On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 06:24:39PM +0200, Diego Iastrubni wrote:
> > > Tzafrir,
> > > no it's the SAME thing I got last month. the funniest thing is that they
> > > freezed cooker for 2-3 week for "bug hunting". nothing was committed to
> > > cooker in those weeks, and 1.5 week after 9.2 was released to club
> > > members, they put a 150MB update. Nice work :-0
> >
> > Is there a kind soul here that wishes to contribute ISO images of
> > Mandrake 9.2 that will not harm unpatched LG drives?
> 
> There are a few, I will look up, and report here (should we mirror them as 
> well?)

As well? instead?

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Re: MDK 9.2

2003-11-22 Thread Dovix
On Monday 17 November 2003 21:28, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
>
> Is there a kind soul here that wishes to contribute
ISO images of
> Mandrake 9.2 that will not harm unpatched LG drives?

Ehad 9.2b is available for Download. It includes the
patched kernel released by Mandrake shortly after the
incident and prior to their decision not to release
new iso's.

The kernel update applies to the installation kernels
as well. You can get more info about Mandrake's patch
here:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker&m=106745003132624&w=2

Nothetheless, I still recommend to upgrade the drive's
firmware just in case.

You can download Ehad from ehad.berlios.de. Make sure
you read the release notes as it contains some
important info. It is available both in Hebrew and
English from the main page and the download page.

For those that do not know what Ehad is about, here's
the official description:

'Ehad' is an Israeli project offering a repackaging of
standard Mandrake Linux binary packages, in order to
provide a single installation CD for Mandrake users in
Israel. 'Ehad' intends to provide a useful assortment
of applications in a single CD and offers full
compatibilty with this popular distro. 'Ehad' users
can enjoy all the graphical installation and
configuration tools provided by Mandrake, as well as
the huge software repositories (including the
automatic installation capabilities).


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Hebrew and MDK 9.2

2003-12-02 Thread Amichai Rotman
Hi All,

I Have downloaded the ISOs of MDK 9.2 shortly after it became available.

I installed the system and all seemed fine.

I have noticed the Hebrew support files are missing. For instance, the 
Hebrew files for Open Office 1.1.0RC4, The KOffice Hebrew files and 
more.

All Esperanto files are there...

Is it supposed to be like that, or is I got the short end of the stick 
by mistake?

If you could tell me where to find the Open Office Hebrew support files 
for MDK 9.2, I'll appreciate it.

Thanks,

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Printing on MDK 9.2

2003-12-31 Thread Amichai Rotman
Hi All,

I have a Cannon BJ-220 and MDK 9.2 installed using the CUPS server.

My printer shows up correctly, but when trying to print the Test Page, 
all I get it pages and pages of gibberish... 

I don't have enough paper and ink for a trial and error process...

I don't print that much, but I need it now and then...

Any ideas, tips ?

TIA,

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Re: Hebrew and MDK 9.2

2003-12-02 Thread Oded Arbel
ביום שלישי 02 דצמבר 2003, 19:23, נכתב על ידי Amichai Rotman:
> Hi All,
>
> I Have downloaded the ISOs of MDK 9.2 shortly after it became available.
>
> I installed the system and all seemed fine.
>
> I have noticed the Hebrew support files are missing. For instance, the
> Hebrew files for Open Office 1.1.0RC4, The KOffice Hebrew files 

OpenOffice and KOffice do not have (yet) a hebrew package. both do support 
hebrew writing and reading but not localization of menus and dialogs.

> and more.

For example ?

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Re: Hebrew and MDK 9.2

2003-12-02 Thread Diego Iastrubni
Oded Arbel wrote:

ביום שלישי 02 דצמבר 2003, 19:23, נכתב על ידי Amichai Rotman:
 

Hi All,

I Have downloaded the ISOs of MDK 9.2 shortly after it became available.

I installed the system and all seemed fine.

I have noticed the Hebrew support files are missing. For instance, the
Hebrew files for Open Office 1.1.0RC4, The KOffice Hebrew files 
   

OpenOffice and KOffice do not have (yet) a hebrew package. both do support 
hebrew writing and reading but not localization of menus and dialogs.
 

rubbish, koffice DOES have a localization. I have opened a bug report on 
mdk and it was closed several times without fixing for some reason. I 
will open one again this weekend. Get the ones from redhat, they work.

OpenOffice has a different i18n layout. You need a special binary, not 
"localization files". And besides... when 9.2 was out OO did not have 
any hebrew UI at all :)

 

and more.
   

For example ?
 

yes ... explain...

I had problems using the gnome spanish UI. And for some stupid and 
unkonwn reason the first time I installed GDM did not have hebrew UI and 
now it does (in both mdk9.2 installed from the same disk and I did a 
clean install choosing hebrew, and of course /etc/sysconfig/i18n had 
hebrew all over the place).



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Re: Hebrew and MDK 9.2

2003-12-05 Thread Dotan Mazor
On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 20:28:52 +0200, Diego Iastrubni 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Oded Arbel wrote:

ביום שלישי 02 דצמבר 2003, 19:23, נכתב על ידי Amichai Rotman:

Hi All,

I Have downloaded the ISOs of MDK 9.2 shortly after it became 
available.

I installed the system and all seemed fine.

I have noticed the Hebrew support files are missing. For instance, the
Hebrew files for Open Office 1.1.0RC4, The KOffice Hebrew files
Are you sure you defined CTL in the prefs?
try: Tools>Options>Language Settings>Languages>Enable CTL> CTL=Hebrew
If you did this, then you shouldn't have any problem.

OpenOffice and KOffice do not have (yet) a hebrew package. both do 
support hebrew writing and reading but not localization of menus and 
dialogs.

rubbish, koffice DOES have a localization. I have opened a bug report on 
mdk and it was closed several times without fixing for some reason. I 
will open one again this weekend. Get the ones from redhat, they work.

OpenOffice has a different i18n layout. You need a special binary, not 
"localization files". And besides... when 9.2 was out OO did not have 
any hebrew UI at all :)


and more.

For example ?

yes ... explain...

I had problems using the gnome spanish UI. And for some stupid and 
unkonwn reason the first time I installed GDM did not have hebrew UI and 
now it does (in both mdk9.2 installed from the same disk and I did a 
clean install choosing hebrew, and of course /etc/sysconfig/i18n had 
hebrew all over the place).



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are MDK 9.2 update mirrors up to date?

2004-02-20 Thread Shlomo Solomon
I regularly (about once a week) use Mandrake update to keep all my RPMs 
current. For at least a month, I haven't seen any RPMs being updated and 
that's unusual - there are usualy some updates almost every time I run 
update. Can anyone tell me if the mirrors I've been using are up to date? 

The two I use are: 

ftp://ftp.iglu.org.il/pub/distributions/Mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS
http://iglu.org.il/pub/mirrors/mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS

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Re: are MDK 9.2 update mirrors up to date?

2004-02-20 Thread Shaul Karl
On Fri, Feb 20, 2004 at 12:02:05PM +0200, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
> I regularly (about once a week) use Mandrake update to keep all my RPMs 
> current. For at least a month, I haven't seen any RPMs being updated and 
> that's unusual - there are usualy some updates almost every time I run 
> update. Can anyone tell me if the mirrors I've been using are up to date? 
> 
> The two I use are: 
> 
> ftp://ftp.iglu.org.il/pub/distributions/Mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS
> http://iglu.org.il/pub/mirrors/mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS
> 
> TIA
> 


  I don't use MDK. 
  Herouth had a similar complaint about hamakor mirror a few days ago:
http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/archives/linux-il/02-2004/8595.html. No
public response was posted to linux-il about it. Based on my experience
with the Debian mirror, there is a probability that there are updated 
RPMs upstream and that the problem is with the local mirror.

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Re: are MDK 9.2 update mirrors up to date?

2004-03-07 Thread Shlomo Solomon
Here's an update on my question of 2 weeks ago. Since I still don't see any 
RPMs being updated on my system, I decided to try a different (out of 
country) mirror. I chose one at random from the list Mandrake Update supplies 
and I found 49 packages (a total of 219 Mb) that needed updating. As I write 
this, Mandrake Update is working. Even with an ADSL connection, it's a bit 
slow, but at least it's getting the job done.

So, in answer to my own question, the local MDK 9.2 mirrors are not up to 
date.


On Friday 20 February 2004 15:06, Shaul Karl wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 20, 2004 at 12:02:05PM +0200, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
> > I regularly (about once a week) use Mandrake update to keep all my RPMs
> > current. For at least a month, I haven't seen any RPMs being updated and
> > that's unusual - there are usualy some updates almost every time I run
> > update. Can anyone tell me if the mirrors I've been using are up to date?
> >
> > The two I use are:
> >
> > ftp://ftp.iglu.org.il/pub/distributions/Mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS
> > http://iglu.org.il/pub/mirrors/mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS
> >
> > TIA
>
>   I don't use MDK.
>   Herouth had a similar complaint about hamakor mirror a few days ago:
> http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/archives/linux-il/02-2004/8595.html. No
> public response was posted to linux-il about it. Based on my experience
> with the Debian mirror, there is a probability that there are updated
> RPMs upstream and that the problem is with the local mirror.

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Re: are MDK 9.2 update mirrors up to date?

2004-03-07 Thread Diego Iastrubni
Just for your information, the release cycle (+updates) of mdk92 is over. this 
means no more updates for you mister :)

about the mirrors, i will try and fix it this week hopefully (even if it makes 
me login into iglu and wget them by hand).

On Sunday 07 March 2004 13:22, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
> Here's an update on my question of 2 weeks ago. Since I still don't see any
> RPMs being updated on my system, I decided to try a different (out of
> country) mirror. I chose one at random from the list Mandrake Update
> supplies and I found 49 packages (a total of 219 Mb) that needed updating.
> As I write this, Mandrake Update is working. Even with an ADSL connection,
> it's a bit slow, but at least it's getting the job done.
>
> So, in answer to my own question, the local MDK 9.2 mirrors are not up to
> date.
>
> On Friday 20 February 2004 15:06, Shaul Karl wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 20, 2004 at 12:02:05PM +0200, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
> > > I regularly (about once a week) use Mandrake update to keep all my RPMs
> > > current. For at least a month, I haven't seen any RPMs being updated
> > > and that's unusual - there are usualy some updates almost every time I
> > > run update. Can anyone tell me if the mirrors I've been using are up to
> > > date?
> > >
> > > The two I use are:
> > >
> > > ftp://ftp.iglu.org.il/pub/distributions/Mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS
> > > http://iglu.org.il/pub/mirrors/mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS
> > >
> > > TIA
> >
> >   I don't use MDK.
> >   Herouth had a similar complaint about hamakor mirror a few days ago:
> > http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/archives/linux-il/02-2004/8595.html. No
> > public response was posted to linux-il about it. Based on my experience
> > with the Debian mirror, there is a probability that there are updated
> > RPMs upstream and that the problem is with the local mirror.

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Re: are MDK 9.2 update mirrors up to date?

2004-03-07 Thread Shlomo Solomon
On Sunday 07 March 2004 13:46, Diego Iastrubni wrote:
> Just for your information, the release cycle (+updates) of mdk92 is over.
> this means no more updates for you mister :)
that was fast - I guess I'll have to start thinking about MDK10 ;-)

>
> about the mirrors, i will try and fix it this week hopefully (even if it
> makes me login into iglu and wget them by hand).
If you're doing it especialy for me, thanks but it's not necessary, since as I 
wrote, I'm getting what I need from another mirror. Of course, I assume other 
people would like to have an up to date mirror.

>
> On Sunday 07 March 2004 13:22, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
> > Here's an update on my question of 2 weeks ago. Since I still don't see
> > any RPMs being updated on my system, I decided to try a different (out of
> > country) mirror. I chose one at random from the list Mandrake Update
> > supplies and I found 49 packages (a total of 219 Mb) that needed
> > updating. As I write this, Mandrake Update is working. Even with an ADSL
> > connection, it's a bit slow, but at least it's getting the job done.
> >
> > So, in answer to my own question, the local MDK 9.2 mirrors are not up to
> > date.
> >
> > On Friday 20 February 2004 15:06, Shaul Karl wrote:
> > > On Fri, Feb 20, 2004 at 12:02:05PM +0200, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
> > > > I regularly (about once a week) use Mandrake update to keep all my
> > > > RPMs current. For at least a month, I haven't seen any RPMs being
> > > > updated and that's unusual - there are usualy some updates almost
> > > > every time I run update. Can anyone tell me if the mirrors I've been
> > > > using are up to date?
> > > >
> > > > The two I use are:
> > > >
> > > > ftp://ftp.iglu.org.il/pub/distributions/Mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS
> > > > http://iglu.org.il/pub/mirrors/mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS
> > > >
> > > > TIA
> > >
> > >   I don't use MDK.
> > >   Herouth had a similar complaint about hamakor mirror a few days ago:
> > > http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/archives/linux-il/02-2004/8595.html. No
> > > public response was posted to linux-il about it. Based on my experience
> > > with the Debian mirror, there is a probability that there are updated
> > > RPMs upstream and that the problem is with the local mirror.

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Re: are MDK 9.2 update mirrors up to date?

2004-03-07 Thread Herouth Maoz
Quoting Diego Iastrubni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Just for your information, the release cycle (+updates) of mdk92 is over.
> this
> means no more updates for you mister :)

Excuse me? MDK 9.2 reached end-of-life? I don't think so. There are still
updates for 9.1. Security updates still come in until the end-of-life. And in
MandrakeSecure, they have not announced any end-of-life since 8.2.

And by the way, I asked the same question about the Mandrake update mirrors a
couple of weeks ago, no reply. I switched to an official Mandrake mirror (in
Europe) and I no longer trust the IGLU mirror.

Herouth

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Re: are MDK 9.2 update mirrors up to date?

2004-03-07 Thread Diego Iastrubni
On Sunday 07 March 2004 14:48, Herouth Maoz wrote:
> Quoting Diego Iastrubni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Just for your information, the release cycle (+updates) of mdk92 is over.
> > this
> > means no more updates for you mister :)
>
> Excuse me? MDK 9.2 reached end-of-life? I don't think so. There are still
> updates for 9.1. Security updates still come in until the end-of-life. And
> in MandrakeSecure, they have not announced any end-of-life since 8.2.
as far as i know, the EOL of the desktop products is about 6 months. It can be 
verified quite easily, but I am too lazy :)


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Re: are MDK 9.2 update mirrors up to date?

2004-03-07 Thread Shlomo Solomon
On Sunday 07 March 2004 14:54, Diego Iastrubni wrote:
> as far as i know, the EOL of the desktop products is about 6 months. It can
> be verified quite easily, but I am too lazy :)

I checked and I'm happy to say you're wrong ;-)


As you can see base support of MDK9.0 ends soon, but 9.2 is still alive and 
well. 

from: http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/productlifetime.php

The following is a schedule of when updates support will be dropped for 
products that are currently receiving updates:

Product Desktop Updates Base Updates
Mandrake Linux 9.0  September 30, 2003  March 31, 2004
Multi Network Firewall 8.2  n/a December 12, 2004
Corporate Server 2.1n/a February 28, 2006
Mandrake Linux 9.1  March 25, 2004  September 25, 2004
Mandrake Linux 9.2  September 30, 2004  March 30, 2005



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Re: are MDK 9.2 update mirrors up to date?

2004-03-07 Thread Shlomo Solomon
On Sunday 07 March 2004 16:47, Diego Iastrubni wrote:
> I wonder what desktop updates means...

Sorry - I should have included the following explanation:

With the release of Mandrake Linux 9.1, a lifetime cycle that customers can 
easily anticipate was put into place. MandrakeSoft will provide 12 months of 
"desktop" updates for distributions, and 18 months of "base" updates for 
distributions. This means that applications such as window managers, desktop 
environments, browsers, etc. will have a 12 month package update life, while 
applications such as the kernel, Apache, and other "base" components will 
have a package update life of 18 months. At certain times, MandrakeSoft may 
choose to extend updates support for certain versions of Mandrake Linux.

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Re: are MDK 9.2 update mirrors up to date?

2004-03-07 Thread Diego Iastrubni
On Sunday 07 March 2004 16:59, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
> On Sunday 07 March 2004 16:47, Diego Iastrubni wrote:
> > I wonder what desktop updates means...
>
> Sorry - I should have included the following explanation:
>
> With the release of Mandrake Linux 9.1, a lifetime cycle that customers can
> easily anticipate was put into place. MandrakeSoft will provide 12 months
> of "desktop" updates for distributions, and 18 months of "base" updates for
> distributions. This means that applications such as window managers,
> desktop environments, browsers, etc. will have a 12 month package update
> life, while applications such as the kernel, Apache, and other "base"
> components will have a package update life of 18 months. At certain times,
> MandrakeSoft may choose to extend updates support for certain versions of
> Mandrake Linux.
yes... like kde got an update to 3.1.4... right...
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Re: are MDK 9.2 update mirrors up to date?

2004-03-13 Thread Shaul Karl
On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 02:48:05PM +0200, Herouth Maoz wrote:
> 
>I switched to an official Mandrake mirror (in
> Europe) and I no longer trust the IGLU mirror.
> 


  I think that there is some truth in saying that currently, Hamakor
distribution mirrors are more declaration of intents then fully usable
mirrors. It could be that the reasons for that are beyond Hamakor 
control. Is it wise to have such mirrors around?

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Re: are MDK 9.2 update mirrors up to date?

2004-03-15 Thread linux-il
On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 08:54:47PM +0200, Shaul Karl wrote:
>   I think that there is some truth in saying that currently, Hamakor
> distribution mirrors are more declaration of intents then fully usable
> mirrors. It could be that the reasons for that are beyond Hamakor 
> control. Is it wise to have such mirrors around?

Dunno about MDK, but I get excellent service from Hamakor's debian
unstable mirror.

Maybe it's something to do with how the MDK mirror is setup? (e.g.
maybe pull the mirror from a better source, or use a different
protocol?).

Just for the record...

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