Re: from novell to samba

2003-02-20 Thread Eli Segal
Once I have the linux servers I don't need the novell ones
so .. I don't really need to connect to the novell machine


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From: Hetz Ben-Hamo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: from novell to samba


 On Wed, 19 Feb 2003 15:18:26 +0200, Eli Segal wrote
  We have at our firm, two novell server which serve as
  file server, printers managment, and users/passwords manager

 Which Novell version? 3.x? 4.x? 5.x? the answer is different for each one
of
 them...

  I want to change those servers into linux
  Is samba is all I need ?

 You mean migrate...

 You'll need to run a Linux server, and connect it somehow to the Novell
 machine (thats why I asked you which version). If it's Novell 3.x, then
there
 is a Linux client which can talk to you Novell server and authenticate
 against it. It's not very complicated.

 If it's Novell 4.x or 5.x, then you'll need to find a Novell client for
 Linux, authenticate, and move the data.

 You should consider a way to authenticate the Windows users on Linux with
 some LDAP or so...

 Thanks,
 Hetz




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Re: from novell to samba

2003-02-20 Thread Yehuda Drori
On Thursday 20 February 2003 09:56, Eli Segal wrote:
 no, it been used as a file server no more 

I've made the same move few months ago at my work place.

I had novell 4.  that was working ( as long as there was elec. ) until some 
hardware failure that caused it to shut down unexpectedly... 

that was a sign to move to some thing new..

the options were newer ver. of novell , M$ server, or LINUX... ;-)

since I used the server mainly as file-server that wasn't a doubt that SAMBA 
will do the work. the prob. was with some accountings programs that used 
Novell auth. to work ( none needed a btrive DB running on that server )

when I finely got the new server ( IBM eSERVER X220 ) I plugged it in to the 
local net and used a third ( M$ 98 ) station to transfer files from the old 
server the then new one..

after setting new auth to each user group on each share and pronouncing the 
new server as PDC and writing startup script to each user so it's shares will 
be mounted auto. on login my work was done.

over all performance are better ( I can point if it is due to Linux since the 
hardware is much newer ) but I must say that configuring and maintaining the 
system is much more easier now ( I can do it from home via SSH ) and 
stability is great..;-)

OS RedHat 7.3
samba ver. 2.2.7







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 From: Meir Kriheli [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Hetz Ben-Hamo [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Eli Segal
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 Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 6:42 PM
 Subject: Re: from novell to samba

  On Wednesday 19 February 2003 13:55, Hetz Ben-Hamo wrote:
   On Wed, 19 Feb 2003 15:18:26 +0200, Eli Segal wrote
  
We have at our firm, two novell server which serve as
file server, printers managment, and users/passwords manager
  
   Which Novell version? 3.x? 4.x? 5.x? the answer is different for each

 one

   of them...
  
I want to change those servers into linux
Is samba is all I need ?
  
   You mean migrate...
  
   You'll need to run a Linux server, and connect it somehow to the Novell
   machine (thats why I asked you which version). If it's Novell 3.x, then
   there is a Linux client which can talk to you Novell server and
   authenticate against it. It's not very complicated.
  
   If it's Novell 4.x or 5.x, then you'll need to find a Novell client for
   Linux, authenticate, and move the data.
  
   You should consider a way to authenticate the Windows users on Linux

 with

   some LDAP or so...
  
   Thanks,
   Hetz
 
  One more to check out: are there legacy apps using server side btrieve
  (usually magic apps). If that is the case, they should switch to local
  btrieve client instead of relying on server functionality.
  --
  Meir Kriheli
  MKsoft systems
  http://www.mksoft.co.il
 
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Re: from novell to samba

2003-02-20 Thread Eli Segal
I'm plaining on using Debian as the server .. is ti good ?
or red hat better in this kind of stuff ??


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Subject: Re: from novell to samba


 On Thursday 20 February 2003 10:33, Yehuda Drori wrote:


 Eli , Iftach...


 I've put a review with a link to SMB.CONF file to help you with the
 definitions..

 http://whatsup.org.il/modules.php?name=Reviewsrop=showcontentid=46

 others are welcome to criticize and add comments

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 Yehuda Drori
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  On Thursday 20 February 2003 09:56, Eli Segal wrote:
   no, it been used as a file server no more 
 
  I've made the same move few months ago at my work place.
 
  I had novell 4.  that was working ( as long as there was elec. ) until
some
  hardware failure that caused it to shut down unexpectedly...
 
  that was a sign to move to some thing new..
 
  the options were newer ver. of novell , M$ server, or LINUX... ;-)
 
  since I used the server mainly as file-server that wasn't a doubt that
  SAMBA will do the work. the prob. was with some accountings programs
that
  used Novell auth. to work ( none needed a btrive DB running on that
server
  )
 
  when I finely got the new server ( IBM eSERVER X220 ) I plugged it in to
  the local net and used a third ( M$ 98 ) station to transfer files from
the
  old server the then new one..
 
  after setting new auth to each user group on each share and pronouncing
the
  new server as PDC and writing startup script to each user so it's shares
  will be mounted auto. on login my work was done.
 
  over all performance are better ( I can point if it is due to Linux
since
  the hardware is much newer ) but I must say that configuring and
  maintaining the system is much more easier now ( I can do it from home
via
  SSH ) and stability is great..;-)
 
  OS RedHat 7.3
  samba ver. 2.2.7
 
   - Original Message -
   From: Meir Kriheli [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Hetz Ben-Hamo [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Eli Segal
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Linux-IL [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 6:42 PM
   Subject: Re: from novell to samba
  
On Wednesday 19 February 2003 13:55, Hetz Ben-Hamo wrote:
 On Wed, 19 Feb 2003 15:18:26 +0200, Eli Segal wrote

  We have at our firm, two novell server which serve as
  file server, printers managment, and users/passwords manager

 Which Novell version? 3.x? 4.x? 5.x? the answer is different for
each
  
   one
  
 of them...

  I want to change those servers into linux
  Is samba is all I need ?

 You mean migrate...

 You'll need to run a Linux server, and connect it somehow to the
 Novell machine (thats why I asked you which version). If it's
Novell
 3.x, then there is a Linux client which can talk to you Novell
server
 and authenticate against it. It's not very complicated.

 If it's Novell 4.x or 5.x, then you'll need to find a Novell
client
 for Linux, authenticate, and move the data.

 You should consider a way to authenticate the Windows users on
Linux
  
   with
  
 some LDAP or so...

 Thanks,
 Hetz
   
One more to check out: are there legacy apps using server side
btrieve
(usually magic apps). If that is the case, they should switch to
local
btrieve client instead of relying on server functionality.
--
Meir Kriheli
MKsoft systems
http://www.mksoft.co.il
   
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Re: from novell to samba

2003-02-20 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Eli Segal wrote:

 Once I have the linux servers I don't need the novell ones
 so .. I don't really need to connect to the novell machine

But then again, you can.

Linux should be able to be a novell cliient, as well as serve as a novell
files server. Disclaimer: I never tried it.

The mars package should handle it.

This can be useful for the transition period.

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Re: from novell to samba

2003-02-19 Thread Hetz Ben-Hamo
On Wed, 19 Feb 2003 15:18:26 +0200, Eli Segal wrote
 We have at our firm, two novell server which serve as 
 file server, printers managment, and users/passwords manager

Which Novell version? 3.x? 4.x? 5.x? the answer is different for each one of 
them...
 
 I want to change those servers into linux 
 Is samba is all I need ?

You mean migrate...

You'll need to run a Linux server, and connect it somehow to the Novell 
machine (thats why I asked you which version). If it's Novell 3.x, then there 
is a Linux client which can talk to you Novell server and authenticate 
against it. It's not very complicated.

If it's Novell 4.x or 5.x, then you'll need to find a Novell client for 
Linux, authenticate, and move the data. 

You should consider a way to authenticate the Windows users on Linux with 
some LDAP or so...

Thanks,
Hetz



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Re: from novell to samba

2003-02-19 Thread Meir Kriheli
On Wednesday 19 February 2003 13:55, Hetz Ben-Hamo wrote:
 On Wed, 19 Feb 2003 15:18:26 +0200, Eli Segal wrote

  We have at our firm, two novell server which serve as
  file server, printers managment, and users/passwords manager

 Which Novell version? 3.x? 4.x? 5.x? the answer is different for each one
 of them...

  I want to change those servers into linux
  Is samba is all I need ?

 You mean migrate...

 You'll need to run a Linux server, and connect it somehow to the Novell
 machine (thats why I asked you which version). If it's Novell 3.x, then
 there is a Linux client which can talk to you Novell server and
 authenticate against it. It's not very complicated.

 If it's Novell 4.x or 5.x, then you'll need to find a Novell client for
 Linux, authenticate, and move the data.

 You should consider a way to authenticate the Windows users on Linux with
 some LDAP or so...

 Thanks,
 Hetz

One more to check out: are there legacy apps using server side btrieve 
(usually magic apps). If that is the case, they should switch to local 
btrieve client instead of relying on server functionality.
-- 
Meir Kriheli
MKsoft systems
http://www.mksoft.co.il

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