Re: source for libtermcap

2008-07-10 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 05:15:07PM +0300, Aharon Schkolnik wrote:
 
 Hi.
 
 I am looking for the source for  /lib/libtermcap.so.2.0.8 which comes from 
 rpm 
 libtermcap-2.0.8-35.
 
 Everything I have found so far points me to sunsite, but I can not find the 
 sources there.
 
 Does anyone know where I can find the sources ?

Don't you?

  rpm -qfi /lib/libtermcap.so.2.0.8

What is the source rpm?

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Re: source for libtermcap

2008-07-10 Thread Aharon Schkolnik
On Thursday 10 July 2008, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 05:15:07PM +0300, Aharon Schkolnik wrote:
  Hi.
 
  I am looking for the source for  /lib/libtermcap.so.2.0.8 which comes
  from rpm libtermcap-2.0.8-35.
 
  Everything I have found so far points me to sunsite, but I can not find
  the sources there.
 
  Does anyone know where I can find the sources ?

 Don't you?

   rpm -qfi /lib/libtermcap.so.2.0.8

 What is the source rpm?

I had no problem finding the source rpm.
I was looking for the source for the source rpm - the project tar ball.
Seems termcap library has been replaced by curses, and looks like we are going 
to go that way, too.


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Re: source for libtermcap

2008-07-10 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 11:29:34AM +0300, Aharon Schkolnik wrote:
 On Thursday 10 July 2008, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
  On Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 05:15:07PM +0300, Aharon Schkolnik wrote:
   Hi.
  
   I am looking for the source for  /lib/libtermcap.so.2.0.8 which comes
   from rpm libtermcap-2.0.8-35.
  
   Everything I have found so far points me to sunsite, but I can not find
   the sources there.
  
   Does anyone know where I can find the sources ?
 
  Don't you?
 
rpm -qfi /lib/libtermcap.so.2.0.8
 
  What is the source rpm?
 
 I had no problem finding the source rpm.

What is the source RPM (ncurses-something?)

 I was looking for the source for the source rpm - the project tar ball.
 Seems termcap library has been replaced by curses, and looks like we are 
 going 
If it's from a decent source, you'll find copies of it in mirrors.

A source rpm is essentially a cpio archive that includes sources (usually
just a single tarball) and patches, with a spec file that defines how to
build it.

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Re: source for libtermcap

2008-07-10 Thread Aharon Schkolnik
On Thursday 10 July 2008, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 11:29:34AM +0300, Aharon Schkolnik wrote:
  On Thursday 10 July 2008, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
   On Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 05:15:07PM +0300, Aharon Schkolnik wrote:
Hi.
   
I am looking for the source for  /lib/libtermcap.so.2.0.8 which comes
from rpm libtermcap-2.0.8-35.
   
Everything I have found so far points me to sunsite, but I can not
find the sources there.
   
Does anyone know where I can find the sources ?
  
   Don't you?
  
 rpm -qfi /lib/libtermcap.so.2.0.8
  
   What is the source rpm?
 
  I had no problem finding the source rpm.

 What is the source RPM (ncurses-something?)


No, 

Source RPM: libtermcap-2.0.8-46.1.src.rpm


  I was looking for the source for the source rpm - the project tar ball.
  Seems termcap library has been replaced by curses, and looks like we are
  going

 If it's from a decent source, you'll find copies of it in mirrors.

http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=libtermcap-devel says to 
look in:


ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/GCC/
ftp://ftp.ibliblio.org/pub/Linux/GCC/
ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/GCC/

But, I have been unable to find the tarball on any of those sites, nor have I 
had any luck searching for the tarball.



 A source rpm is essentially a cpio archive that includes sources (usually
 just a single tarball) and patches, with a spec file that defines how to
 build it.


I have no problem extracting the tarball, patches, etc from the source rpm, I 
was looking for the original source (the project site) - I was thinking that 
perhaps the rpm makers might have altered the source slightly.

As it looks now, I will either have to use the  tarball from the  source rpm, 
or just drop libtermcap in favor of curses (might necessitate code changes).



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Re: source for libtermcap

2008-07-10 Thread Oron Peled
On Thursday, 10 בJuly 2008, Aharon Schkolnik wrote:
 I have no problem extracting the tarball, patches, etc from the source
 rpm, I was looking for the original source (the project site) - I was
 thinking that perhaps the rpm makers might have altered the source
 slightly.

If you distribution (you didn't say which) is composed by sane people
than the tarball contained in the RPM is the *pristine* tarball --
which means it is an *exact* copy of the original tarball.

That's why the SRPM may contain additional sources, patches, etc.
This guideline is shared by any responsible distribution regardless
if it uses RPM (e.g: Fedora) or deb (e.g: Debian).

The simple reason for this guideline, is that without it there is
no chance for the package maintainers to differentiate their changes
from changes done by the upstream developers and stay sane...


 As it looks now, I will either have to use the  tarball from the  source
 rpm,

Yes, that's the one you want. If you want to have with the distribution
patches included, than simply use rpmbuild -bp the_spec_file to have
it extract and patch the source.

 or just drop libtermcap in favor of curses (might necessitate code changes).

This may be justified because of other reasons (ncurses has more features
and is better maintained that old termcap). Obviously, this has nothing
to do with the RPM/SRPM question, as it is packaged exactly like termcap
with the same (distro) policy.


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Re: source for libtermcap

2008-07-04 Thread Noam Meltzer
Hi,

If you want the source of a specific RPM, you need to download the source
from the distribution site. They modify many of the RPMs they provide, so
they're not the same as the vanilla version as one might think.

- Noam

On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Aharon Schkolnik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


 Hi.

 I am looking for the source for  /lib/libtermcap.so.2.0.8 which comes from
 rpm
 libtermcap-2.0.8-35.

 Everything I have found so far points me to sunsite, but I can not find the
 sources there.

 Does anyone know where I can find the sources ?

 TIA


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Re: source for libtermcap - more information

2008-07-03 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi!

On Thursday 03 July 2008, Aharon Schkolnik wrote:
 Hi.

 I am looking for the source for  /lib/libtermcap.so.2.0.8 which comes from
 rpm libtermcap-2.0.8-35.

 Everything I have found so far points me to sunsite, but I can not find the
 sources there.


As a fallback, you can unpack the .src.rpm (using rpm -Uvh) or see:

http://svn.mandriva.com/svn/packages/cooker/libtermcap/current/SOURCES/

Note that RedHat may have some downstream patches.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish


 

 I have also seen references to

 Homepage:   ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/GCC/

 but it doesn't seem to be there either.

 


 Does anyone know where I can find the sources ?

 TIA



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