RE: [OFFTOPIC] Sending CVs in "other formats" (was: Re: StarOffice - IBM's Hebrew)
Internet explorer 5.5+ can print/preview internet pages and individual frames, which is probably the majority of browser choice in HR departments in Israel. Works great btw. Just to sympathize, I concur that when dealing with your future some prefer playing it safe and some don't, its just the way it is. * - * - * Tzahi Fadida [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax (+1 Outside the US) 240-597-3213 * - * - * - * - * - * -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Omer Zak Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 2:43 PM To: Hetz Ben Hamo Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [OFFTOPIC] Sending CVs in "other formats" (was: Re: StarOffice - IBM's Hebrew) On Sun, 13 Jan 2002, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > Hi Dvir, > > I respect MR. Stallman opinion, but I still say he's lunatic and I really > don't care how much flames I'll get. I'm looking at the real world here in > Israel for example - I'm unmployeed and whenever I'm trying to send my CV as > a text, HTML or PDF I get shouts from the HR department that my CV is > "unreadable" or "unprintable" - when I send then Word 97 document - they're > happy... I am surprised that HTML documents are "unreadable" or "unprintable". I thought that MS-Word imports properly HTML documents exported by it. And what happens if someone sends in RTF or simple text (in English) format? --- Omer There is no IGLU Cabal. We receive applications only in straight text format - UTF8, bidirectional text presented in Logical ordering, you supply line breaks and you take care of accents. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: see at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OFFTOPIC] Sending CVs in "other formats" (was: Re: StarOffice - IBM's Hebrew)
On Sun, 13 Jan 2002, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > Hi Dvir, > > I respect MR. Stallman opinion, but I still say he's lunatic and I really > don't care how much flames I'll get. I'm looking at the real world here in > Israel for example - I'm unmployeed and whenever I'm trying to send my CV as > a text, HTML or PDF I get shouts from the HR department that my CV is > "unreadable" or "unprintable" - when I send then Word 97 document - they're > happy... I am surprised that HTML documents are "unreadable" or "unprintable". I thought that MS-Word imports properly HTML documents exported by it. And what happens if someone sends in RTF or simple text (in English) format? --- Omer There is no IGLU Cabal. We receive applications only in straight text format - UTF8, bidirectional text presented in Logical ordering, you supply line breaks and you take care of accents. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: see at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice - IBM's Hebrew
in my experience, TED reads English RTF, cheers, avraham >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/14/02 10:32am >>> Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What about RTF? Let me repeat my question: what tools can read/write RTF (English) under Linux? StarOffice does, and KWord doesn't, AFAIK. Anything *but* SO? -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] "If it ain't broken, it has not got enough features yet." = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice - IBM's Hebrew
Ira Abramov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > now search freshmeat for more :) I wonder if this is worthwhile. You gave a rather long list of tools that don't do what I asked. Given that latex2rtf and rtf2latex don't work at all (last time I checked - a few months ago - their documentation even warned about it, and I verified that by installing and trying them), the only stuff to check is abiword and ted... Thanks, -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] "If it ain't broken, it has not got enough features yet." = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice - IBM's Hebrew
On 14 Jan 2002, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > > What about RTF? > > Let me repeat my question: what tools can read/write RTF (English) > under Linux? StarOffice does, and KWord doesn't, AFAIK. Anything *but* > SO? looks like more things convert to rather than from, but here's a short list I got you without even passing the IPstack doorstep into the web... [ira@bonobo ~]$ apt-cache search rtf abiword - WYSIWYG word processor based on GTK. beancounter - A stock portfolio performance monitoring tool docbook-dsssl - Modular DocBook DSSSL stylesheets, for print and HTML docbook-utils - Convert Docbook files to other formats (HTML, RTF, Postscript, PDF) enscript - Converts ASCII text to Postscript, HTML, RTF or Pretty-Print gnome-pm - GNOME stock portfolio manager jade - James Clark's DSSSL Engine latex2rtf - Convert LaTeX to Microsoft RTF format librtf-document-perl - Perl extension for generating Rich Text (RTF) Files linuxdoc-tools - SGML converters for the LinuxDoc DTD only. openjade - Implementation of the DSSSL language robodoc - A program documentation tool. rtf2htm - RTF to HTML converter that supports tables, fonts and images rtf2latex - Convert RTF files to LaTeX scite - Lightweight GTK-based Programming Editor sdf - Simple Document Parser sdf-doc - Documentation and examples for the Simple Document Parser sgmltools-lite - convert DocBook SGML source into HTML using DSSSL ted - Graphical RTF (Rich Text Format) editor, lesstif version ted-common - common files used by ted and ted-gtk troffcvt - Converts troff source to HTML, RTF, and plain text. xpw - the Pathetic Writer word-processor now search freshmeat for more :) -- (@-Please do NOT cc: me answers posted also to the list //\Send me private mail at v_/_ to send me spam please use: cat spam.txt > /dev/hda = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice - IBM's Hebrew
Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What about RTF? Let me repeat my question: what tools can read/write RTF (English) under Linux? StarOffice does, and KWord doesn't, AFAIK. Anything *but* SO? -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] "If it ain't broken, it has not got enough features yet." = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice - IBM's Hebrew
Thanks, Uri http://translation.israel.net On Sun, 13 Jan 2002, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > What about RTF? > > It generally takes more place (due to a very inefficient encoding of > hebrew. Something in the lines of quoted-printable) but it is readable by > any decent word processor (word95/7/0/xp, qtext, etc.) > In fact, maybe you can simply take an RTF document, give it a .doc > extension, and feed it to word as a word document (this is roughly what > word200's "hebrew word97/95" export filter does) Why would you need to change the extension? Word reads rtf as-is. So does Wordpad = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: StarOffice - IBM's Hebrew
On Sun, 13 Jan 2002, Dvir Volk wrote: > Hi > > about stallman's article - as always, he's not a lunatic but an > idealist. Those terms don't necessarily contradict ;-) -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice - IBM's Hebrew
On Sun, 13 Jan 2002, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > Hi Dvir, > > I respect MR. Stallman opinion, but I still say he's lunatic and I really > don't care how much flames I'll get. I'm looking at the real world here in > Israel for example - I'm unmployeed and whenever I'm trying to send my CV as > a text, HTML or PDF I get shouts from the HR department that my CV is > "unreadable" or "unprintable" - when I send then Word 97 document - they're > happy... What about RTF? It generally takes more place (due to a very inefficient encoding of hebrew. Something in the lines of quoted-printable) but it is readable by any decent word processor (word95/7/0/xp, qtext, etc.) In fact, maybe you can simply take an RTF document, give it a .doc extension, and feed it to word as a word document (this is roughly what word200's "hebrew word97/95" export filter does) Arguments that can be raised against using MS-Word: 1. non-standard 2. too-powerful: may carry macro virii 3. bloated: takes too much space Other alternatives: Text: Probably the most standard. Anybody with a certain degree of hebrew support in the OS can read a ISO-8850-8-i/CP1255 hebrew text file. It also has the advantage of having a minimal space consumption. Problems: * Bad at saving formatting (although not as bad as people think). Export routines of word processors can preserve paragraphs, numbering and bullts. But probably cannot preserve *emphasys* * Not always trivial to use text from there (espcially if it has complex formatting) HTML: Text with some formatting. When used efficiently can produce relatively compact text files. Can preserve at least most of the formatting (at least the important bits). Problems: * Word2000's HTML export tends to be quite bloated (but not as the original document, I believe) * When explorer is used to read HTML files, they are not safe of ms-integration-virii * Not always trivial to use text from there (espcially if it has complex formatting) PDF: A read-only text format that preserves almost all of the formatting. Can be made quite compact. Problems: * A read-only format (Spare me the notes that it is not exactly true). Although for some uses it is an advantage * A viewer for that format is not common enough. * Most windows users don't have the software to produce a compact hebrew PDF document. PostScript: Genrally the same advantages and disadvantages of PDF. The viewer is even less common, and the format is a bit less rich (e.g: URLs) RTF: This basically preserves the formatting, and allows further editing. Problems: size is bloated. I'm not sure about virii. -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: StarOffice - IBM's Hebrew
Hi about stallman's article - as always, he's not a lunatic but an idealist. but the anti-word "movement" must come from the users, even MS users: personally, i hate word attachments mainly because they are big and tend to eat out my memory when i work with win98 on my office computer. i edit articles only on notepad (word's speller sucks anyway), and so do most of my employees. when exchanging documents over mail i encourage all our staff to use plain inline text, if they want a response within less than a two days ;-). because there's nothing like receiving a 1MB attachment with a single page document containing three lines and a .bmp company logo. and if HR people will only understand that, we'd all be better off. about our chat - i've already asked our chat admin to ask netfun for a version that will work on all platforms. meanwhile you can make do with the "advanced" chat we have - i know it kinda sucks, but it's better than nothing. hope netfun will provide us with a new version soon. i'll notify this list when he does... cheers, > Dvir Volk > Editor in Chief > Nana by NetVision > _ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Tel: 03-5652585 | Fax:03-6241952 | http://www.netvision.net.il http://www.nana.co.il > NetVision LTD. Omega Center, Matam Haifa 31905 > > -Original Message- > From: Hetz Ben Hamo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 7:00 PM > To: Dvir Volk; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: StarOffice - IBM's Hebrew > > > Hi Dvir, > > I respect MR. Stallman opinion, but I still say he's lunatic > and I really > don't care how much flames I'll get. I'm looking at the real > world here in > Israel for example - I'm unmployeed and whenever I'm trying > to send my CV as > a text, HTML or PDF I get shouts from the HR department that my CV is > "unreadable" or "unprintable" - when I send then Word 97 > document - they're > happy... > > BTW - since you're the editor in Nana, then allow me to take > this chance and > to ask Nana to either upgrade or do something about their > Chats applets - > it's only running on Netscape 4.X (which crashes a lot) and I > cannot use it > not with Sun's latest JRE, nor with IBM's JRE - so I can't use it in > Konqueror, Galeon, Mozilla, Opera and others. Same goes to > Mac users... > > Could someone upgrade it please? I know that Netfun (a.k.a - > the bastards) > supplied you with only that version - but for the price that > you pay for this > applet ($1,000!) I think you deserve an upgrade to > more-standards JRE's.. > > Hetz > > On Sunday 13 January 2002 15:15, Dvir Volk wrote: > > Richard Stallman of GNU just published an interesting article on > > newsforge on the subject, titled "We can put an end to Word > > attachments". > > http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=02/01/10/1711238&mode=thread > > > > and by the way, KWord can edit hebrew MSWord documents > rather decently. > > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice - IBM's Hebrew
Hi Dvir, I respect MR. Stallman opinion, but I still say he's lunatic and I really don't care how much flames I'll get. I'm looking at the real world here in Israel for example - I'm unmployeed and whenever I'm trying to send my CV as a text, HTML or PDF I get shouts from the HR department that my CV is "unreadable" or "unprintable" - when I send then Word 97 document - they're happy... BTW - since you're the editor in Nana, then allow me to take this chance and to ask Nana to either upgrade or do something about their Chats applets - it's only running on Netscape 4.X (which crashes a lot) and I cannot use it not with Sun's latest JRE, nor with IBM's JRE - so I can't use it in Konqueror, Galeon, Mozilla, Opera and others. Same goes to Mac users... Could someone upgrade it please? I know that Netfun (a.k.a - the bastards) supplied you with only that version - but for the price that you pay for this applet ($1,000!) I think you deserve an upgrade to more-standards JRE's.. Hetz On Sunday 13 January 2002 15:15, Dvir Volk wrote: > Richard Stallman of GNU just published an interesting article on > newsforge on the subject, titled "We can put an end to Word > attachments". > http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=02/01/10/1711238&mode=thread > > and by the way, KWord can edit hebrew MSWord documents rather decently. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: StarOffice - IBM's Hebrew
> > and by the way, KWord can edit hebrew MSWord documents > rather decently. > > interesting. it seems like anything I try to load on it (not just > Hebrew) explodes, it's not even beta grade. does it save as > word at all? > because if it saves only as kword, it's not very useful for businesses > yet either (apart from the instability) with koffice 1.1 i've managed to open Word97 files without a problem (haven't tried Word2000 yet, but the koffice site states that kword can also import Word2000 files in a "good" level of support, although it can't export to word format.). but true enough, kword is unstable and inconvenient. Dvir Volk Editor in Chief Nana by NetVision _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Tel: 03-5652585 | Fax:03-6241952 | http://www.netvision.net.il http://www.nana.co.il NetVision LTD. Omega Center, Matam Haifa 31905 To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice - IBM's Hebrew
On Sun, 13 Jan 2002, Nadav Har'El wrote: > On Sun, Jan 13, 2002, Eli Marmor wrote about "Re: StarOffice - IBM's Hebrew": > > > - does it import Hebrew winWord? > > > Answer: yes! > >.. > > And this specific feature, is the most important, at least in my humble > > opinion. Just think about the possibilities that this feature opens... > > It opens the possibility that now that you can finally read Hebrew Word > files, For a simple MSWord viewer, try wv. Use it to convert the document to html and view it. Sadly the conversion to latex is not useful currently for hebrew documents, so their automatic conversion to postscript, for instance, won't work with ebrew docs. BTW: wv is being used as an import library of abiword (and of kword?) > some annoying Microsoft-addict will send you a Hebrew Powerpoint, > MS-Project, or whatever kind of file that you still cannot read ;) With what tools can I read those formats under linux (leaving hebrew aside for the moment) -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice - IBM's Hebrew
"Nadav Har'El" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It opens the possibility that now that you can finally read Hebrew Word > files, some annoying Microsoft-addict will send you a Hebrew Powerpoint, > MS-Project, or whatever kind of file that you still cannot read ;) Or, as reported on /. recently, a ZIP file containing a PowerPoint presentation containing one slide containing a bitmap image of a scanned printout of an email message... -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] "If it ain't broken, it has not got enough features yet." = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice - IBM's Hebrew
Dvir Volk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > and by the way, KWord can edit hebrew MSWord documents rather decently. I never managed as much as open Word documents (English) with KWord. If I did, I would not have bothered with StarOffice, most probably... Incidentally, what is the best Linux tool to read RTF (besides StarOffice)? -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] "If it ain't broken, it has not got enough features yet." = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: StarOffice - IBM's Hebrew
On Sun, 13 Jan 2002, Dvir Volk wrote: > Richard Stallman of GNU just published an interesting article on > newsforge on the subject, titled "We can put an end to Word > attachments". > http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=02/01/10/1711238&mode=thread > > and by the way, KWord can edit hebrew MSWord documents rather decently. interesting. it seems like anything I try to load on it (not just Hebrew) explodes, it's not even beta grade. does it save as word at all? because if it saves only as kword, it's not very useful for businesses yet either (apart from the instability) -- (@-Please do NOT cc: me answers posted also to the list //\Send me private mail at v_/_ to send me spam please use: cat spam.txt > /dev/hda = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice - IBM's Hebrew
On Sun, 13 Jan 2002, Nadav Har'El wrote: > I always get people sending me emails with these kinds of formats. I try > to convince these people that the formats they are using are formats for > *editing*, and since I don't intend to edit the stuff they send me, they > should use some sort of hardcopy format, like Postscript or PDF; Not to eyery workstation in the world, at a probability of 90%-95%, has a Word Viewer program of some sort. much less than 20% have a running PDF or Postscript viewers, much less a proper PDF or postscript export filter (those usually cost extra or are plain crappy, like the internal M$ EPS driver) don't be a bonehead please. the solution is plaintext or at the worst case HTML. > mention that Postscript and PDF are much more standard, can be viewed or more standardIZED, but not de-facto more popular. > P.S. If any of you have been trying to use ivrix.org.il in the last few days, > the machine is down since Thursday because some smart-alec unplugged it(!). > And just when it reached 330 days uptime ;) the bastard! I can assure you no Alecs are working at Actcom (maybe an Alexei or two), especially not the smart ones. come join forces :) -- (@-Please do NOT cc: me answers posted also to the list //\Send me private mail at v_/_ to send me spam please use: cat spam.txt > /dev/hda = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: StarOffice - IBM's Hebrew
Richard Stallman of GNU just published an interesting article on newsforge on the subject, titled "We can put an end to Word attachments". http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=02/01/10/1711238&mode=thread and by the way, KWord can edit hebrew MSWord documents rather decently. Dvir Volk Editor in Chief Nana by NetVision _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Tel: 03-5652585 | Fax:03-6241952 | http://www.netvision.net.il http://www.nana.co.il NetVision LTD. Omega Center, Matam Haifa 31905 To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice - IBM's Hebrew
On Sun, Jan 13, 2002, Eli Marmor wrote about "Re: StarOffice - IBM's Hebrew": > > - does it import Hebrew winWord? > > Answer: yes! >.. > And this specific feature, is the most important, at least in my humble > opinion. Just think about the possibilities that this feature opens... It opens the possibility that now that you can finally read Hebrew Word files, some annoying Microsoft-addict will send you a Hebrew Powerpoint, MS-Project, or whatever kind of file that you still cannot read ;) I always get people sending me emails with these kinds of formats. I try to convince these people that the formats they are using are formats for *editing*, and since I don't intend to edit the stuff they send me, they should use some sort of hardcopy format, like Postscript or PDF; Not to mention that Postscript and PDF are much more standard, can be viewed or printed on virtually any machine on earth and are much more stable (they don't change radically on every release). But it's like talking to a wall - as far as Microsoft addicts are concerned, Windows is the only OS that exists, and therefore the only relevant standards are the ones Microsoft invent. P.S. If any of you have been trying to use ivrix.org.il in the last few days, the machine is down since Thursday because some smart-alec unplugged it(!). And just when it reached 330 days uptime ;) It should be up and running again by this evening, hopefully. -- Nadav Har'El| Sunday, Jan 13 2002, 29 Tevet 5762 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone: +972-53-245868, ICQ 13349191 |This message contains 100% recycled http://nadav.harel.org.il |characters. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice - IBM's Hebrew
Matitiahu Allouche wrote: > - does it import Hebrew winWord? > Answer: yes! I think IBM deserves a big "Shkoyech" (cheers? thanks?) for the whole project, even without this critical feature. And this specific feature, is the most important, at least in my humble opinion. Just think about the possibilities that this feature opens... -- Eli Marmor [EMAIL PROTECTED] CTO, Founder Netmask (El-Mar) Internet Technologies Ltd. __ Tel.: +972-9-766-1020 8 Yad-Harutzim St. Fax.: +972-9-766-1314 P.O.B. 7004 Mobile: +972-50-23-7338 Kfar-Saba 44641, Israel = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice - IBM's Hebrew
1) It is not possible for IBM to contribute fonts, because of legal reasons. 2) It imports Office 97 and 2k. There are a few known problems, but most features work ok. Shalom (Regards), Mati Bidi Architect Globalization Center Of Competency - Bidirectional Scripts IBM Israel Phone: +972 2 5870999 ext. 1202Fax: +972 2 5870333 Mobile: +972 52 554160 To:Matitiahu Allouche/Israel/IBM@IBMIL, [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: StarOffice - IBM's Hebrew 2 more questions: 1. fonts: Do I need to have my fonts from my Windows partition or does IBM contributes some fonts? 2. which Hebrew word files does it imports currently? Office 97, 2K and XP? are there any known problems in the filters? Thanks, Hetz = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice - IBM's Hebrew
2 more questions: 1. fonts: Do I need to have my fonts from my Windows partition or does IBM contributes some fonts? 2. which Hebrew word files does it imports currently? Office 97, 2K and XP? are there any known problems in the filters? Thanks, Hetz = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice - IBM's Hebrew
I am not sure what I am allowed to say before the legal patrol comes to arrest me. Anyway, as long as it (or I) last... Ira Abramov asked: - is it for Open Office or just the commercial StarOffice? Answer: OpenOffice - does it import Hebrew winWord? Answer: yes! - is the support only for the wordproc or also for the presentation and other tools? Answer: only the wordproc for this cycle - is it for editing AND interface (menus) or can I mix and match? Answer: I am not sure what you mean. We have not translated the interface, a fortiori we have not mirrored it. Shalom (Regards), Mati Bidi Architect Globalization Center Of Competency - Bidirectional Scripts IBM Israel Phone: +972 2 5870999 ext. 1202Fax: +972 2 5870333 Mobile: +972 52 554160 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
StarOffice - IBM's Hebrew
On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Matitiahu Allouche wrote: > employees. The distribution outside IBM is currently on hold until some > legal points (copyrights etc...) are solved. I don't know when this will > happen. Brothers and sisters, join me in a silent prayer... well, if we can't have the program, we can interrogate Mati in the meantime :) - is it for Open Office or just the commercial StarOffice? - does it import Hebrew winWord? - is the support only for the wordproc or also for the presentation and other tools? - is it for editing AND interface (menus) or can I mix and match? -- (@-Please do NOT cc: me answers posted also to the list //\Send me private mail at v_/_ to send me spam please use: cat spam.txt > /dev/hda = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]