Re: [PATCH] Revert "perf/x86: Allow zero PEBS status with only single active event"

2021-03-16 Thread Namhyung Kim
On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 9:28 PM Liang, Kan  wrote:
>
>
>
> On 3/16/2021 3:22 AM, Namhyung Kim wrote:
> > Hi Peter and Kan,
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 5:22 AM Peter Zijlstra  wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, Mar 03, 2021 at 02:53:00PM -0500, Liang, Kan wrote:
> >>> On 3/3/2021 1:59 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>  On Wed, Mar 03, 2021 at 05:42:18AM -0800, kan.li...@linux.intel.com 
>  wrote:
> >>
> > +++ b/arch/x86/events/intel/ds.c
> > @@ -2000,18 +2000,6 @@ static void intel_pmu_drain_pebs_nhm(struct 
> > pt_regs *iregs, struct perf_sample_d
> >continue;
> >}
> > - /*
> > -  * On some CPUs the PEBS status can be zero when PEBS is
> > -  * racing with clearing of GLOBAL_STATUS.
> > -  *
> > -  * Normally we would drop that record, but in the
> > -  * case when there is only a single active PEBS event
> > -  * we can assume it's for that event.
> > -  */
> > - if (!pebs_status && cpuc->pebs_enabled &&
> > - !(cpuc->pebs_enabled & (cpuc->pebs_enabled-1)))
> > - pebs_status = cpuc->pebs_enabled;
> 
>  Wouldn't something like:
> 
>   pebs_status = p->status = cpus->pebs_enabled;
> 
> >>>
> >>> I didn't consider it as a potential solution in this patch because I don't
> >>> think it's a proper way that SW modifies the buffer, which is supposed to 
> >>> be
> >>> manipulated by the HW.
> >>
> >> Right, but then HW was supposed to write sane values and it doesn't do
> >> that either ;-)
> >>
> >>> It's just a personal preference. I don't see any issue here. We may try 
> >>> it.
> >>
> >> So I mostly agree with you, but I think it's a shame to unsupport such
> >> chips, HSW is still a plenty useable chip today.
> >
> > I got a similar issue on ivybridge machines which caused kernel crash.
> > My case it's related to the branch stack with PEBS events but I think
> > it's the same issue.  And I can confirm that the above approach of
> > updating p->status fixed the problem.
> >
> > I've talked to Stephane about this, and he wants to make it more
> > robust when we see stale (or invalid) PEBS records.  I'll send the
> > patch soon.
> >
>
> Hi Namhyung,
>
> In case you didn't see it, I've already submitted a patch to fix the
> issue last Friday.
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/161298-140216-1-git-send-email-kan.li...@linux.intel.com/
> But if you have a more robust proposal, please feel free to submit it.
>
> BTW: The patch set from last Friday also fixed another bug found by the
> perf_fuzzer test. You may be interested.

Right, I missed it.  It'd be nice if you could CC me for perf patches later.

Thanks,
Namhyung


Re: [PATCH] Revert "perf/x86: Allow zero PEBS status with only single active event"

2021-03-16 Thread Liang, Kan




On 3/16/2021 2:34 PM, Stephane Eranian wrote:

On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 5:28 AM Liang, Kan  wrote:




On 3/16/2021 3:22 AM, Namhyung Kim wrote:

Hi Peter and Kan,

On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 5:22 AM Peter Zijlstra  wrote:


On Wed, Mar 03, 2021 at 02:53:00PM -0500, Liang, Kan wrote:

On 3/3/2021 1:59 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:

On Wed, Mar 03, 2021 at 05:42:18AM -0800, kan.li...@linux.intel.com wrote:



+++ b/arch/x86/events/intel/ds.c
@@ -2000,18 +2000,6 @@ static void intel_pmu_drain_pebs_nhm(struct pt_regs 
*iregs, struct perf_sample_d
continue;
}
- /*
-  * On some CPUs the PEBS status can be zero when PEBS is
-  * racing with clearing of GLOBAL_STATUS.
-  *
-  * Normally we would drop that record, but in the
-  * case when there is only a single active PEBS event
-  * we can assume it's for that event.
-  */
- if (!pebs_status && cpuc->pebs_enabled &&
- !(cpuc->pebs_enabled & (cpuc->pebs_enabled-1)))
- pebs_status = cpuc->pebs_enabled;


Wouldn't something like:

  pebs_status = p->status = cpus->pebs_enabled;



I didn't consider it as a potential solution in this patch because I don't
think it's a proper way that SW modifies the buffer, which is supposed to be
manipulated by the HW.


Right, but then HW was supposed to write sane values and it doesn't do
that either ;-)


It's just a personal preference. I don't see any issue here. We may try it.


So I mostly agree with you, but I think it's a shame to unsupport such
chips, HSW is still a plenty useable chip today.


I got a similar issue on ivybridge machines which caused kernel crash.
My case it's related to the branch stack with PEBS events but I think
it's the same issue.  And I can confirm that the above approach of
updating p->status fixed the problem.

I've talked to Stephane about this, and he wants to make it more
robust when we see stale (or invalid) PEBS records.  I'll send the
patch soon.



Hi Namhyung,

In case you didn't see it, I've already submitted a patch to fix the
issue last Friday.
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/161298-140216-1-git-send-email-kan.li...@linux.intel.com/
But if you have a more robust proposal, please feel free to submit it.


This fixes the problem on the older systems. The other problem we
identified related to the
PEBS sample processing code is that you can end up with uninitialized
perf_sample_data
struct passed to perf_event_overflow():

  setup_pebs_fixed_sample_data(pebs, data)
{
 if (!pebs)
 return;
 perf_sample_data_init(data);  <<< must be moved before the if (!pebs)
 ...
}

__intel_pmu_pebs_event(pebs, data)
{
 setup_sample(pebs, data)
 perf_event_overflow(data);
 ...
}

If there is any other reason to get a pebs = NULL in fix_sample_data()
or adaptive_sample_data(), then
you must call perf_sample_data_init(data) BEFORE you return otherwise
you end up in perf_event_overflow()
with uninitialized data and you may die as follows:

[] ? perf_output_copy+0x4d/0xb0
[] perf_output_sample+0x561/0xab0
[] ? __perf_event_header__init_id+0x112/0x130
[] ? perf_prepare_sample+0x1b1/0x730
[] perf_event_output_forward+0x59/0x80
[] ? perf_event_update_userpage+0xf4/0x110
[] perf_event_overflow+0x88/0xe0
[] __intel_pmu_pebs_event+0x328/0x380

This all stems from get_next_pebs_record_by_bit()  potentially
returning NULL but the NULL is not handled correctly
by the callers. This is what I'd like to see cleaned up in
__intel_pmu_pebs_event() to  avoid future problems.



Got it. Yes, we need another patch to correctly handle the potentially
returning NULL. Thanks for pointing it out.

Thanks,
Kan


Re: [PATCH] Revert "perf/x86: Allow zero PEBS status with only single active event"

2021-03-16 Thread Stephane Eranian
On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 5:28 AM Liang, Kan  wrote:
>
>
>
> On 3/16/2021 3:22 AM, Namhyung Kim wrote:
> > Hi Peter and Kan,
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 5:22 AM Peter Zijlstra  wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, Mar 03, 2021 at 02:53:00PM -0500, Liang, Kan wrote:
> >>> On 3/3/2021 1:59 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>  On Wed, Mar 03, 2021 at 05:42:18AM -0800, kan.li...@linux.intel.com 
>  wrote:
> >>
> > +++ b/arch/x86/events/intel/ds.c
> > @@ -2000,18 +2000,6 @@ static void intel_pmu_drain_pebs_nhm(struct 
> > pt_regs *iregs, struct perf_sample_d
> >continue;
> >}
> > - /*
> > -  * On some CPUs the PEBS status can be zero when PEBS is
> > -  * racing with clearing of GLOBAL_STATUS.
> > -  *
> > -  * Normally we would drop that record, but in the
> > -  * case when there is only a single active PEBS event
> > -  * we can assume it's for that event.
> > -  */
> > - if (!pebs_status && cpuc->pebs_enabled &&
> > - !(cpuc->pebs_enabled & (cpuc->pebs_enabled-1)))
> > - pebs_status = cpuc->pebs_enabled;
> 
>  Wouldn't something like:
> 
>   pebs_status = p->status = cpus->pebs_enabled;
> 
> >>>
> >>> I didn't consider it as a potential solution in this patch because I don't
> >>> think it's a proper way that SW modifies the buffer, which is supposed to 
> >>> be
> >>> manipulated by the HW.
> >>
> >> Right, but then HW was supposed to write sane values and it doesn't do
> >> that either ;-)
> >>
> >>> It's just a personal preference. I don't see any issue here. We may try 
> >>> it.
> >>
> >> So I mostly agree with you, but I think it's a shame to unsupport such
> >> chips, HSW is still a plenty useable chip today.
> >
> > I got a similar issue on ivybridge machines which caused kernel crash.
> > My case it's related to the branch stack with PEBS events but I think
> > it's the same issue.  And I can confirm that the above approach of
> > updating p->status fixed the problem.
> >
> > I've talked to Stephane about this, and he wants to make it more
> > robust when we see stale (or invalid) PEBS records.  I'll send the
> > patch soon.
> >
>
> Hi Namhyung,
>
> In case you didn't see it, I've already submitted a patch to fix the
> issue last Friday.
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/161298-140216-1-git-send-email-kan.li...@linux.intel.com/
> But if you have a more robust proposal, please feel free to submit it.
>
This fixes the problem on the older systems. The other problem we
identified related to the
PEBS sample processing code is that you can end up with uninitialized
perf_sample_data
struct passed to perf_event_overflow():

 setup_pebs_fixed_sample_data(pebs, data)
{
if (!pebs)
return;
perf_sample_data_init(data);  <<< must be moved before the if (!pebs)
...
}

__intel_pmu_pebs_event(pebs, data)
{
setup_sample(pebs, data)
perf_event_overflow(data);
...
}

If there is any other reason to get a pebs = NULL in fix_sample_data()
or adaptive_sample_data(), then
you must call perf_sample_data_init(data) BEFORE you return otherwise
you end up in perf_event_overflow()
with uninitialized data and you may die as follows:

[] ? perf_output_copy+0x4d/0xb0
[] perf_output_sample+0x561/0xab0
[] ? __perf_event_header__init_id+0x112/0x130
[] ? perf_prepare_sample+0x1b1/0x730
[] perf_event_output_forward+0x59/0x80
[] ? perf_event_update_userpage+0xf4/0x110
[] perf_event_overflow+0x88/0xe0
[] __intel_pmu_pebs_event+0x328/0x380

This all stems from get_next_pebs_record_by_bit()  potentially
returning NULL but the NULL is not handled correctly
by the callers. This is what I'd like to see cleaned up in
__intel_pmu_pebs_event() to  avoid future problems.

I have a patch that moves the perf_sample_data_init() and I can send
it to LKML but it would also need the cleanup
for get_next_pebs_record_by_bit() to be complete.

Thanks.


Re: [PATCH] Revert "perf/x86: Allow zero PEBS status with only single active event"

2021-03-16 Thread Liang, Kan




On 3/16/2021 3:22 AM, Namhyung Kim wrote:

Hi Peter and Kan,

On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 5:22 AM Peter Zijlstra  wrote:


On Wed, Mar 03, 2021 at 02:53:00PM -0500, Liang, Kan wrote:

On 3/3/2021 1:59 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:

On Wed, Mar 03, 2021 at 05:42:18AM -0800, kan.li...@linux.intel.com wrote:



+++ b/arch/x86/events/intel/ds.c
@@ -2000,18 +2000,6 @@ static void intel_pmu_drain_pebs_nhm(struct pt_regs 
*iregs, struct perf_sample_d
   continue;
   }
- /*
-  * On some CPUs the PEBS status can be zero when PEBS is
-  * racing with clearing of GLOBAL_STATUS.
-  *
-  * Normally we would drop that record, but in the
-  * case when there is only a single active PEBS event
-  * we can assume it's for that event.
-  */
- if (!pebs_status && cpuc->pebs_enabled &&
- !(cpuc->pebs_enabled & (cpuc->pebs_enabled-1)))
- pebs_status = cpuc->pebs_enabled;


Wouldn't something like:

 pebs_status = p->status = cpus->pebs_enabled;



I didn't consider it as a potential solution in this patch because I don't
think it's a proper way that SW modifies the buffer, which is supposed to be
manipulated by the HW.


Right, but then HW was supposed to write sane values and it doesn't do
that either ;-)


It's just a personal preference. I don't see any issue here. We may try it.


So I mostly agree with you, but I think it's a shame to unsupport such
chips, HSW is still a plenty useable chip today.


I got a similar issue on ivybridge machines which caused kernel crash.
My case it's related to the branch stack with PEBS events but I think
it's the same issue.  And I can confirm that the above approach of
updating p->status fixed the problem.

I've talked to Stephane about this, and he wants to make it more
robust when we see stale (or invalid) PEBS records.  I'll send the
patch soon.



Hi Namhyung,

In case you didn't see it, I've already submitted a patch to fix the 
issue last Friday.

https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/161298-140216-1-git-send-email-kan.li...@linux.intel.com/
But if you have a more robust proposal, please feel free to submit it.

BTW: The patch set from last Friday also fixed another bug found by the 
perf_fuzzer test. You may be interested.


Thanks,
Kan



Re: [PATCH] Revert "perf/x86: Allow zero PEBS status with only single active event"

2021-03-16 Thread Namhyung Kim
Hi Peter and Kan,

On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 5:22 AM Peter Zijlstra  wrote:
>
> On Wed, Mar 03, 2021 at 02:53:00PM -0500, Liang, Kan wrote:
> > On 3/3/2021 1:59 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > On Wed, Mar 03, 2021 at 05:42:18AM -0800, kan.li...@linux.intel.com wrote:
>
> > > > +++ b/arch/x86/events/intel/ds.c
> > > > @@ -2000,18 +2000,6 @@ static void intel_pmu_drain_pebs_nhm(struct 
> > > > pt_regs *iregs, struct perf_sample_d
> > > >   continue;
> > > >   }
> > > > - /*
> > > > -  * On some CPUs the PEBS status can be zero when PEBS is
> > > > -  * racing with clearing of GLOBAL_STATUS.
> > > > -  *
> > > > -  * Normally we would drop that record, but in the
> > > > -  * case when there is only a single active PEBS event
> > > > -  * we can assume it's for that event.
> > > > -  */
> > > > - if (!pebs_status && cpuc->pebs_enabled &&
> > > > - !(cpuc->pebs_enabled & (cpuc->pebs_enabled-1)))
> > > > - pebs_status = cpuc->pebs_enabled;
> > >
> > > Wouldn't something like:
> > >
> > > pebs_status = p->status = cpus->pebs_enabled;
> > >
> >
> > I didn't consider it as a potential solution in this patch because I don't
> > think it's a proper way that SW modifies the buffer, which is supposed to be
> > manipulated by the HW.
>
> Right, but then HW was supposed to write sane values and it doesn't do
> that either ;-)
>
> > It's just a personal preference. I don't see any issue here. We may try it.
>
> So I mostly agree with you, but I think it's a shame to unsupport such
> chips, HSW is still a plenty useable chip today.

I got a similar issue on ivybridge machines which caused kernel crash.
My case it's related to the branch stack with PEBS events but I think
it's the same issue.  And I can confirm that the above approach of
updating p->status fixed the problem.

I've talked to Stephane about this, and he wants to make it more
robust when we see stale (or invalid) PEBS records.  I'll send the
patch soon.

Thanks,
Namhyung


Re: [PATCH] Revert "perf/x86: Allow zero PEBS status with only single active event"

2021-03-03 Thread Liang, Kan




On 3/3/2021 1:59 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:

On Wed, Mar 03, 2021 at 05:42:18AM -0800, kan.li...@linux.intel.com wrote:


For some old CPUs (HSW and earlier), the PEBS status in a PEBS record
may be mistakenly set to 0. To minimize the impact of the defect, the
commit was introduced to try to avoid dropping the PEBS record for some
cases. It adds a check in the intel_pmu_drain_pebs_nhm(), and updates
the local pebs_status accordingly. However, it doesn't correct the PEBS
status in the PEBS record, which may trigger the crash, especially for
the large PEBS.

It's possible that all the PEBS records in a large PEBS have the PEBS
status 0. If so, the first get_next_pebs_record_by_bit() in the
__intel_pmu_pebs_event() returns NULL. The at = NULL. Since it's a large
PEBS, the 'count' parameter must > 1. The second
get_next_pebs_record_by_bit() will crash.

Two solutions were considered to fix the crash.
- Keep the SW workaround and add extra checks in the
   get_next_pebs_record_by_bit() to workaround the issue. The
   get_next_pebs_record_by_bit() is a critical path. The extra checks
   will bring extra overhead for the latest CPUs which don't have the
   defect. Also, the defect can only be observed on some old CPUs
   (For example, the issue can be reproduced on an HSW client, but I
   didn't observe the issue on my Haswell server machine.). The impact
   of the defect should be limit.
   This solution is dropped.
- Drop the SW workaround and revert the commit.
   It seems that the commit never works, because the PEBS status in the
   PEBS record never be changed. The get_next_pebs_record_by_bit() only
   checks the PEBS status in the PEBS record. The record is dropped
   eventually. Reverting the commit should not change the current
   behavior.



+++ b/arch/x86/events/intel/ds.c
@@ -2000,18 +2000,6 @@ static void intel_pmu_drain_pebs_nhm(struct pt_regs 
*iregs, struct perf_sample_d
continue;
}
  
-		/*

-* On some CPUs the PEBS status can be zero when PEBS is
-* racing with clearing of GLOBAL_STATUS.
-*
-* Normally we would drop that record, but in the
-* case when there is only a single active PEBS event
-* we can assume it's for that event.
-*/
-   if (!pebs_status && cpuc->pebs_enabled &&
-   !(cpuc->pebs_enabled & (cpuc->pebs_enabled-1)))
-   pebs_status = cpuc->pebs_enabled;


Wouldn't something like:

pebs_status = p->status = cpus->pebs_enabled;



I didn't consider it as a potential solution in this patch because I 
don't think it's a proper way that SW modifies the buffer, which is 
supposed to be manipulated by the HW.

It's just a personal preference. I don't see any issue here. We may try it.

Vince, could you please help check whether Peter's suggestion fixes the 
crash?


Thanks,
Kan


actually fix things without adding overhead?



Re: [PATCH] Revert "perf/x86: Allow zero PEBS status with only single active event"

2021-03-03 Thread Peter Zijlstra
On Wed, Mar 03, 2021 at 02:53:00PM -0500, Liang, Kan wrote:
> On 3/3/2021 1:59 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 03, 2021 at 05:42:18AM -0800, kan.li...@linux.intel.com wrote:

> > > +++ b/arch/x86/events/intel/ds.c
> > > @@ -2000,18 +2000,6 @@ static void intel_pmu_drain_pebs_nhm(struct 
> > > pt_regs *iregs, struct perf_sample_d
> > >   continue;
> > >   }
> > > - /*
> > > -  * On some CPUs the PEBS status can be zero when PEBS is
> > > -  * racing with clearing of GLOBAL_STATUS.
> > > -  *
> > > -  * Normally we would drop that record, but in the
> > > -  * case when there is only a single active PEBS event
> > > -  * we can assume it's for that event.
> > > -  */
> > > - if (!pebs_status && cpuc->pebs_enabled &&
> > > - !(cpuc->pebs_enabled & (cpuc->pebs_enabled-1)))
> > > - pebs_status = cpuc->pebs_enabled;
> > 
> > Wouldn't something like:
> > 
> > pebs_status = p->status = cpus->pebs_enabled;
> > 
> 
> I didn't consider it as a potential solution in this patch because I don't
> think it's a proper way that SW modifies the buffer, which is supposed to be
> manipulated by the HW.

Right, but then HW was supposed to write sane values and it doesn't do
that either ;-)

> It's just a personal preference. I don't see any issue here. We may try it.

So I mostly agree with you, but I think it's a shame to unsupport such
chips, HSW is still a plenty useable chip today.




Re: [PATCH] Revert "perf/x86: Allow zero PEBS status with only single active event"

2021-03-03 Thread Peter Zijlstra
On Wed, Mar 03, 2021 at 05:42:18AM -0800, kan.li...@linux.intel.com wrote:

> For some old CPUs (HSW and earlier), the PEBS status in a PEBS record
> may be mistakenly set to 0. To minimize the impact of the defect, the
> commit was introduced to try to avoid dropping the PEBS record for some
> cases. It adds a check in the intel_pmu_drain_pebs_nhm(), and updates
> the local pebs_status accordingly. However, it doesn't correct the PEBS
> status in the PEBS record, which may trigger the crash, especially for
> the large PEBS.
> 
> It's possible that all the PEBS records in a large PEBS have the PEBS
> status 0. If so, the first get_next_pebs_record_by_bit() in the
> __intel_pmu_pebs_event() returns NULL. The at = NULL. Since it's a large
> PEBS, the 'count' parameter must > 1. The second
> get_next_pebs_record_by_bit() will crash.
> 
> Two solutions were considered to fix the crash.
> - Keep the SW workaround and add extra checks in the
>   get_next_pebs_record_by_bit() to workaround the issue. The
>   get_next_pebs_record_by_bit() is a critical path. The extra checks
>   will bring extra overhead for the latest CPUs which don't have the
>   defect. Also, the defect can only be observed on some old CPUs
>   (For example, the issue can be reproduced on an HSW client, but I
>   didn't observe the issue on my Haswell server machine.). The impact
>   of the defect should be limit.
>   This solution is dropped.
> - Drop the SW workaround and revert the commit.
>   It seems that the commit never works, because the PEBS status in the
>   PEBS record never be changed. The get_next_pebs_record_by_bit() only
>   checks the PEBS status in the PEBS record. The record is dropped
>   eventually. Reverting the commit should not change the current
>   behavior.

> +++ b/arch/x86/events/intel/ds.c
> @@ -2000,18 +2000,6 @@ static void intel_pmu_drain_pebs_nhm(struct pt_regs 
> *iregs, struct perf_sample_d
>   continue;
>   }
>  
> - /*
> -  * On some CPUs the PEBS status can be zero when PEBS is
> -  * racing with clearing of GLOBAL_STATUS.
> -  *
> -  * Normally we would drop that record, but in the
> -  * case when there is only a single active PEBS event
> -  * we can assume it's for that event.
> -  */
> - if (!pebs_status && cpuc->pebs_enabled &&
> - !(cpuc->pebs_enabled & (cpuc->pebs_enabled-1)))
> - pebs_status = cpuc->pebs_enabled;

Wouldn't something like:

pebs_status = p->status = cpus->pebs_enabled;

actually fix things without adding overhead?