Re: Linux-kernel-digest Digest, Vol 32, Issue 795

2007-05-30 Thread Sam Ravnborg
On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 08:52:29PM +0530, Tej Parkash wrote:
> On 5/30/07, Sam Ravnborg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 08:07:53PM +0530, Tej Parkash wrote:
> >> On 5/30/07, Tej Parkash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > while building module i was getting following warning and it
> >> >terminate
> >> >> > > module building stage
> >> >> > The below are only warnings and your build should succeed.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > It is obviously i386 - is it a clean allmodconfig or any changes?
> >> >> > Is it latest -linus or some older version of the codebase?
> >> >> Did an allmodconfig build of i386 - I see (almost) all warnings here.
> >> >> So I will take a look based on this.
> >>
> >> yaa i got the warning but as i said building stage is also getting
> >> terminated, without any error.
> >>
> >> >The MODPOST stage took a while but it proceeded with no hick-ups.
> >> > MDOPSOT deals with ~2000 modules in my case and that consumes a bit
> >> > of memory. Maybe you are hitting the limit with respect to available 
> >RAM
> >> > / SWAP?
> >> >
> >> >Sam
> >> >
> >> >
> >> I don't think so that RAM or SWAP space is a constraint, is it related
> >> to kernel build option or some change in arch. config files
> >> I am not aware of the required patches for the same.
> >Can you please post relevant parts of a build with make V=2
> >That is the last couple of commands before the build suddenly stops.
> >Also to error-code reported by make must be included.
> >
> >Ohh, and exact command-line + config you use.
> >
> >Sam
> >
> 
> make -C /lib/modules/2.6.21.3/build/ SUBDIR=/home/tej/Offload modules
> make[1]: Entering directory `/home/tej/linux_src/linux-2.6.21.3'
>  CHK include/linux/version.h
>  CHK include/linux/utsrelease.h
>  Building modules, stage 2.
>  MODPOST 1889 modules
> WARNING: vmlinux - Section mismatch: reference to
> .init.text:start_kernel from .text between 'is386' (at offset
> 0xc0101171) and 'check_x87'
> WARNING: vmlinux - Section mismatch: reference to .init.text: from
> .text between 'rest_init' (at offset 0xc0101458) and 'try_name'
> WARNING: vmlinux - Section mismatch: reference to
> .init.text:__alloc_bootmem from .text between 'init_gdt' (at offset
> 0xc010adfb) and 'cpu_init'
> WARNING: vmlinux - Section mismatch: reference to
> .init.text:__alloc_bootmem from .text between 'init_gdt' (at offset
> 0xc010ae11) and 'cpu_init'
> WARNING: vmlinux - Section mismatch: reference to
> .init.text:sysenter_setup from .text between 'identify_cpu' (at offset
> 0xc010b46b) and 'display_cacheinfo'
> WARNING: vmlinux - Section mismatch: reference to
> .init.text:mtrr_bp_init from .text between 'identify_cpu' (at offset
> 0xc010b475) and 'display_cacheinfo'
> WARNING: vmlinux - Section mismatch: reference to
> .init.text:trap_init_f00f_bug from .text between 'init_intel' (at
> offset 0xc010d576) and 'cpuid4_cache_lookup'
> WARNING: vmlinux - Section mismatch: reference to .init.text: from
> .text between 'iret_exc' (at offset 0xc02f2c2e) and '_etext'
> WARNING: vmlinux - Section mismatch: reference to
> .init.data:initkmem_list3 from .text between 'set_up_list3s' (at
> offset 0xc0173aff) and 's_start'
> WARNING: vmlinux - Section mismatch: reference to
> .init.text:eisa_root_register from .text between
> 'virtual_eisa_root_init' (at offset 0xc026fecf) and
> 'cpufreq_unregister_driver'
> WARNING: vmlinux - Section mismatch: reference to .init.text: from
> .text between 'iret_exc' (at offset 0xc02f32c8) and '_etext'
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/tej/linux_src/linux-2.6.21.3'

[It should have been make V=1 - bot is does not matter].
The build succeeds. This is expected when building modules - there
are no "I'm done" messages when doing "make modules".

So only thing left is a few more or less harmless warnings that you can ignore 
for ypur usage.

Sam
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Re: Linux-kernel-digest Digest, Vol 32, Issue 795

2007-05-30 Thread Tej Parkash

On 5/30/07, Sam Ravnborg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 08:07:53PM +0530, Tej Parkash wrote:
> On 5/30/07, Tej Parkash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > while building module i was getting following warning and it
> >terminate
> >> > > module building stage
> >> > The below are only warnings and your build should succeed.
> >> >
> >> > It is obviously i386 - is it a clean allmodconfig or any changes?
> >> > Is it latest -linus or some older version of the codebase?
> >> Did an allmodconfig build of i386 - I see (almost) all warnings here.
> >> So I will take a look based on this.
>
> yaa i got the warning but as i said building stage is also getting
> terminated, without any error.
>
> >The MODPOST stage took a while but it proceeded with no hick-ups.
> > MDOPSOT deals with ~2000 modules in my case and that consumes a bit
> > of memory. Maybe you are hitting the limit with respect to available RAM
> > / SWAP?
> >
> >Sam
> >
> >
> I don't think so that RAM or SWAP space is a constraint, is it related
> to kernel build option or some change in arch. config files
> I am not aware of the required patches for the same.
Can you please post relevant parts of a build with make V=2
That is the last couple of commands before the build suddenly stops.
Also to error-code reported by make must be included.

Ohh, and exact command-line + config you use.

Sam



make -C /lib/modules/2.6.21.3/build/ SUBDIR=/home/tej/Offload modules
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/tej/linux_src/linux-2.6.21.3'
 CHK include/linux/version.h
 CHK include/linux/utsrelease.h
 Building modules, stage 2.
 MODPOST 1889 modules
WARNING: vmlinux - Section mismatch: reference to
.init.text:start_kernel from .text between 'is386' (at offset
0xc0101171) and 'check_x87'
WARNING: vmlinux - Section mismatch: reference to .init.text: from
.text between 'rest_init' (at offset 0xc0101458) and 'try_name'
WARNING: vmlinux - Section mismatch: reference to
.init.text:__alloc_bootmem from .text between 'init_gdt' (at offset
0xc010adfb) and 'cpu_init'
WARNING: vmlinux - Section mismatch: reference to
.init.text:__alloc_bootmem from .text between 'init_gdt' (at offset
0xc010ae11) and 'cpu_init'
WARNING: vmlinux - Section mismatch: reference to
.init.text:sysenter_setup from .text between 'identify_cpu' (at offset
0xc010b46b) and 'display_cacheinfo'
WARNING: vmlinux - Section mismatch: reference to
.init.text:mtrr_bp_init from .text between 'identify_cpu' (at offset
0xc010b475) and 'display_cacheinfo'
WARNING: vmlinux - Section mismatch: reference to
.init.text:trap_init_f00f_bug from .text between 'init_intel' (at
offset 0xc010d576) and 'cpuid4_cache_lookup'
WARNING: vmlinux - Section mismatch: reference to .init.text: from
.text between 'iret_exc' (at offset 0xc02f2c2e) and '_etext'
WARNING: vmlinux - Section mismatch: reference to
.init.data:initkmem_list3 from .text between 'set_up_list3s' (at
offset 0xc0173aff) and 's_start'
WARNING: vmlinux - Section mismatch: reference to
.init.text:eisa_root_register from .text between
'virtual_eisa_root_init' (at offset 0xc026fecf) and
'cpufreq_unregister_driver'
WARNING: vmlinux - Section mismatch: reference to .init.text: from
.text between 'iret_exc' (at offset 0xc02f32c8) and '_etext'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/tej/linux_src/linux-2.6.21.3'


the actaul kernel where i am running this make is in
/home/tej/linux_src/linux-2.6.21.3.

thanks
tej
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Re: Linux-kernel-digest Digest, Vol 32, Issue 795

2007-05-30 Thread Sam Ravnborg
On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 08:07:53PM +0530, Tej Parkash wrote:
> On 5/30/07, Tej Parkash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > while building module i was getting following warning and it 
> >terminate
> >> > > module building stage
> >> > The below are only warnings and your build should succeed.
> >> >
> >> > It is obviously i386 - is it a clean allmodconfig or any changes?
> >> > Is it latest -linus or some older version of the codebase?
> >> Did an allmodconfig build of i386 - I see (almost) all warnings here.
> >> So I will take a look based on this.
> 
> yaa i got the warning but as i said building stage is also getting
> terminated, without any error.
> 
> >The MODPOST stage took a while but it proceeded with no hick-ups.
> > MDOPSOT deals with ~2000 modules in my case and that consumes a bit
> > of memory. Maybe you are hitting the limit with respect to available RAM 
> > / SWAP?
> >
> >Sam
> >
> >
> I don't think so that RAM or SWAP space is a constraint, is it related
> to kernel build option or some change in arch. config files
> I am not aware of the required patches for the same.
Can you please post relevant parts of a build with make V=2
That is the last couple of commands before the build suddenly stops.
Also to error-code reported by make must be included.

Ohh, and exact command-line + config you use.

Sam
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Re: Linux-kernel-digest Digest, Vol 32, Issue 795

2007-05-30 Thread Tej Parkash

On 5/30/07, Tej Parkash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > >
> > > while building module i was getting following warning and it terminate
> > > module building stage
> > The below are only warnings and your build should succeed.
> >
> > It is obviously i386 - is it a clean allmodconfig or any changes?
> > Is it latest -linus or some older version of the codebase?
> Did an allmodconfig build of i386 - I see (almost) all warnings here.
> So I will take a look based on this.


yaa i got the warning but as i said building stage is also getting
terminated, without any error.


The MODPOST stage took a while but it proceeded with no hick-ups.
 MDOPSOT deals with ~2000 modules in my case and that consumes a bit
 of memory. Maybe you are hitting the limit with respect to available RAM / 
SWAP?

Sam



I don't think so that RAM or SWAP space is a constraint, is it related
to kernel build option or some change in arch. config files
I am not aware of the required patches for the same.


thanks
TEJ
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Re: Linux-kernel-digest Digest, Vol 32, Issue 795

2007-05-30 Thread Tej Parkash

On 5/30/07, Tej Parkash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
   while building module i was getting following warning and it terminate
   module building stage
  The below are only warnings and your build should succeed.
 
  It is obviously i386 - is it a clean allmodconfig or any changes?
  Is it latest -linus or some older version of the codebase?
 Did an allmodconfig build of i386 - I see (almost) all warnings here.
 So I will take a look based on this.


yaa i got the warning but as i said building stage is also getting
terminated, without any error.


The MODPOST stage took a while but it proceeded with no hick-ups.
 MDOPSOT deals with ~2000 modules in my case and that consumes a bit
 of memory. Maybe you are hitting the limit with respect to available RAM / 
SWAP?

Sam



I don't think so that RAM or SWAP space is a constraint, is it related
to kernel build option or some change in arch. config files
I am not aware of the required patches for the same.


thanks
TEJ
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Re: Linux-kernel-digest Digest, Vol 32, Issue 795

2007-05-30 Thread Sam Ravnborg
On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 08:07:53PM +0530, Tej Parkash wrote:
 On 5/30/07, Tej Parkash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
while building module i was getting following warning and it 
 terminate
module building stage
   The below are only warnings and your build should succeed.
  
   It is obviously i386 - is it a clean allmodconfig or any changes?
   Is it latest -linus or some older version of the codebase?
  Did an allmodconfig build of i386 - I see (almost) all warnings here.
  So I will take a look based on this.
 
 yaa i got the warning but as i said building stage is also getting
 terminated, without any error.
 
 The MODPOST stage took a while but it proceeded with no hick-ups.
  MDOPSOT deals with ~2000 modules in my case and that consumes a bit
  of memory. Maybe you are hitting the limit with respect to available RAM 
  / SWAP?
 
 Sam
 
 
 I don't think so that RAM or SWAP space is a constraint, is it related
 to kernel build option or some change in arch. config files
 I am not aware of the required patches for the same.
Can you please post relevant parts of a build with make V=2
That is the last couple of commands before the build suddenly stops.
Also to error-code reported by make must be included.

Ohh, and exact command-line + config you use.

Sam
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Re: Linux-kernel-digest Digest, Vol 32, Issue 795

2007-05-30 Thread Tej Parkash

On 5/30/07, Sam Ravnborg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 08:07:53PM +0530, Tej Parkash wrote:
 On 5/30/07, Tej Parkash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
while building module i was getting following warning and it
 terminate
module building stage
   The below are only warnings and your build should succeed.
  
   It is obviously i386 - is it a clean allmodconfig or any changes?
   Is it latest -linus or some older version of the codebase?
  Did an allmodconfig build of i386 - I see (almost) all warnings here.
  So I will take a look based on this.

 yaa i got the warning but as i said building stage is also getting
 terminated, without any error.

 The MODPOST stage took a while but it proceeded with no hick-ups.
  MDOPSOT deals with ~2000 modules in my case and that consumes a bit
  of memory. Maybe you are hitting the limit with respect to available RAM
  / SWAP?
 
 Sam
 
 
 I don't think so that RAM or SWAP space is a constraint, is it related
 to kernel build option or some change in arch. config files
 I am not aware of the required patches for the same.
Can you please post relevant parts of a build with make V=2
That is the last couple of commands before the build suddenly stops.
Also to error-code reported by make must be included.

Ohh, and exact command-line + config you use.

Sam



make -C /lib/modules/2.6.21.3/build/ SUBDIR=/home/tej/Offload modules
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/tej/linux_src/linux-2.6.21.3'
 CHK include/linux/version.h
 CHK include/linux/utsrelease.h
 Building modules, stage 2.
 MODPOST 1889 modules
WARNING: vmlinux - Section mismatch: reference to
.init.text:start_kernel from .text between 'is386' (at offset
0xc0101171) and 'check_x87'
WARNING: vmlinux - Section mismatch: reference to .init.text: from
.text between 'rest_init' (at offset 0xc0101458) and 'try_name'
WARNING: vmlinux - Section mismatch: reference to
.init.text:__alloc_bootmem from .text between 'init_gdt' (at offset
0xc010adfb) and 'cpu_init'
WARNING: vmlinux - Section mismatch: reference to
.init.text:__alloc_bootmem from .text between 'init_gdt' (at offset
0xc010ae11) and 'cpu_init'
WARNING: vmlinux - Section mismatch: reference to
.init.text:sysenter_setup from .text between 'identify_cpu' (at offset
0xc010b46b) and 'display_cacheinfo'
WARNING: vmlinux - Section mismatch: reference to
.init.text:mtrr_bp_init from .text between 'identify_cpu' (at offset
0xc010b475) and 'display_cacheinfo'
WARNING: vmlinux - Section mismatch: reference to
.init.text:trap_init_f00f_bug from .text between 'init_intel' (at
offset 0xc010d576) and 'cpuid4_cache_lookup'
WARNING: vmlinux - Section mismatch: reference to .init.text: from
.text between 'iret_exc' (at offset 0xc02f2c2e) and '_etext'
WARNING: vmlinux - Section mismatch: reference to
.init.data:initkmem_list3 from .text between 'set_up_list3s' (at
offset 0xc0173aff) and 's_start'
WARNING: vmlinux - Section mismatch: reference to
.init.text:eisa_root_register from .text between
'virtual_eisa_root_init' (at offset 0xc026fecf) and
'cpufreq_unregister_driver'
WARNING: vmlinux - Section mismatch: reference to .init.text: from
.text between 'iret_exc' (at offset 0xc02f32c8) and '_etext'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/tej/linux_src/linux-2.6.21.3'


the actaul kernel where i am running this make is in
/home/tej/linux_src/linux-2.6.21.3.

thanks
tej
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Re: Linux-kernel-digest Digest, Vol 32, Issue 795

2007-05-30 Thread Sam Ravnborg
On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 08:52:29PM +0530, Tej Parkash wrote:
 On 5/30/07, Sam Ravnborg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 08:07:53PM +0530, Tej Parkash wrote:
  On 5/30/07, Tej Parkash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 while building module i was getting following warning and it
  terminate
 module building stage
The below are only warnings and your build should succeed.
   
It is obviously i386 - is it a clean allmodconfig or any changes?
Is it latest -linus or some older version of the codebase?
   Did an allmodconfig build of i386 - I see (almost) all warnings here.
   So I will take a look based on this.
 
  yaa i got the warning but as i said building stage is also getting
  terminated, without any error.
 
  The MODPOST stage took a while but it proceeded with no hick-ups.
   MDOPSOT deals with ~2000 modules in my case and that consumes a bit
   of memory. Maybe you are hitting the limit with respect to available 
 RAM
   / SWAP?
  
  Sam
  
  
  I don't think so that RAM or SWAP space is a constraint, is it related
  to kernel build option or some change in arch. config files
  I am not aware of the required patches for the same.
 Can you please post relevant parts of a build with make V=2
 That is the last couple of commands before the build suddenly stops.
 Also to error-code reported by make must be included.
 
 Ohh, and exact command-line + config you use.
 
 Sam
 
 
 make -C /lib/modules/2.6.21.3/build/ SUBDIR=/home/tej/Offload modules
 make[1]: Entering directory `/home/tej/linux_src/linux-2.6.21.3'
  CHK include/linux/version.h
  CHK include/linux/utsrelease.h
  Building modules, stage 2.
  MODPOST 1889 modules
 WARNING: vmlinux - Section mismatch: reference to
 .init.text:start_kernel from .text between 'is386' (at offset
 0xc0101171) and 'check_x87'
 WARNING: vmlinux - Section mismatch: reference to .init.text: from
 .text between 'rest_init' (at offset 0xc0101458) and 'try_name'
 WARNING: vmlinux - Section mismatch: reference to
 .init.text:__alloc_bootmem from .text between 'init_gdt' (at offset
 0xc010adfb) and 'cpu_init'
 WARNING: vmlinux - Section mismatch: reference to
 .init.text:__alloc_bootmem from .text between 'init_gdt' (at offset
 0xc010ae11) and 'cpu_init'
 WARNING: vmlinux - Section mismatch: reference to
 .init.text:sysenter_setup from .text between 'identify_cpu' (at offset
 0xc010b46b) and 'display_cacheinfo'
 WARNING: vmlinux - Section mismatch: reference to
 .init.text:mtrr_bp_init from .text between 'identify_cpu' (at offset
 0xc010b475) and 'display_cacheinfo'
 WARNING: vmlinux - Section mismatch: reference to
 .init.text:trap_init_f00f_bug from .text between 'init_intel' (at
 offset 0xc010d576) and 'cpuid4_cache_lookup'
 WARNING: vmlinux - Section mismatch: reference to .init.text: from
 .text between 'iret_exc' (at offset 0xc02f2c2e) and '_etext'
 WARNING: vmlinux - Section mismatch: reference to
 .init.data:initkmem_list3 from .text between 'set_up_list3s' (at
 offset 0xc0173aff) and 's_start'
 WARNING: vmlinux - Section mismatch: reference to
 .init.text:eisa_root_register from .text between
 'virtual_eisa_root_init' (at offset 0xc026fecf) and
 'cpufreq_unregister_driver'
 WARNING: vmlinux - Section mismatch: reference to .init.text: from
 .text between 'iret_exc' (at offset 0xc02f32c8) and '_etext'
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/tej/linux_src/linux-2.6.21.3'

[It should have been make V=1 - bot is does not matter].
The build succeeds. This is expected when building modules - there
are no I'm done messages when doing make modules.

So only thing left is a few more or less harmless warnings that you can ignore 
for ypur usage.

Sam
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Re: linux-kernel-digest ?

2000-09-21 Thread H. Peter Anvin

Followup to:  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
By author:Matti Aarnio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel
>
> On Thu, Sep 21, 2000 at 07:38:15AM -0500, Joshua Jore wrote:
> > Huh?  *is* supposed to be equivalent to  according to RFC822. 
> 
>   *NOT* for Procmail's REGULAR EXPRESSIONS.
> 
>   They are, after all, just regular UNIX REs without special
>   knowledge about e.g. EMAIL.
> 

Actually, procmail does canonicalize the header somewhat.  This is one
of the things that it really should have canonicalized.

-hpa
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Re: linux-kernel-digest ?

2000-09-21 Thread Matti Aarnio

On Thu, Sep 21, 2000 at 11:27:01PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> >From: Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 
> >Having slowly switched every list I have to run or help run to
> >mailman I can recommend the pain of the switch over the pain of
> >running majordomo
> > 
> > I suggested this but Matti immediately told me that mailman has
> > several RFC compliancy "issues" which I am sure he can elaborate on.
> 
> I'd like to hear more. I think mailman is worth fixing even if so - the fact
> folks who change email address dont have to send you hate mail being one
> major reason 8)

  A year or two ago I had a peek after I got reports that it
  didn't work together with ZMailer -- turned out that some
  baseline PYTHON library for SMTP does something stupid in
  its protocol line construction..  The system experiencing
  problems was running ZMailer with ultra-strict RFC 821
  (plus amendaments) mode.

  Ergo, the MAILMAN might be ok, but underneath it there may
  be buggy language library..  (may STILL be, that is.)

  Another point, DaveM, was that MAILMAN is written in Python,
  and neither of us "speaks" that language...


> BTW tell Matti that zmailer is positively vicious - when I put my mail server
> back online on the cable modem after 3 days offline vger streamed mail at it
> at a steady 512Kbits/second and nearly killed it

  Oh dear me.  It is feeding those one message at a time with least
  possible resource usage...  Perhaps it can be made less "vicious"
  with e.g. sprinkling sleep(1) calls all over the code, but I would
  rather not do such a gross thing..

/Matti Aarnio
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Re: linux-kernel-digest ?

2000-09-21 Thread Steven Pritchard

Alan Cox said:
> Having slowly switched every list I have to run or help run to mailman I can
> recommend the pain of the switch over the pain of running majordomo 

There is a Majordomo 2 in development.  I'm using it for all of my
lists now.  The upgrade from Majordomo 1 wasn't terribly painful.

Note that it's not really a new version, but rather a total rewrite.
MIME, archives, digests, and everything else you would expect to "just
work" does.  Of course, the catch is that there hasn't been an
official, stable release yet.

See

http://www.hpc.uh.edu/majordomo/#mj2

for more info.

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Re: linux-kernel-digest ?

2000-09-21 Thread David S. Miller

   Date:Thu, 21 Sep 2000 22:58:16 +0100 (BST)
   From: Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

   Having slowly switched every list I have to run or help run to
   mailman I can recommend the pain of the switch over the pain of
   running majordomo

I suggested this but Matti immediately told me that mailman has
several RFC compliancy "issues" which I am sure he can elaborate on.

Later,
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Re: linux-kernel-digest ?

2000-09-21 Thread Alan Cox

>   According to DaveM:  No.
>   (Sometimes he holds possibly bad opinnions as ferociously as Linus,
>but on the other hand, that Majordomo 1.x digester breaks structured
>MIME messages BADLY.  It should be trivial to fix, but I don't hack
>Md, I hack ZMailer -- and also sometimes the kernel.)

Having slowly switched every list I have to run or help run to mailman I can
recommend the pain of the switch over the pain of running majordomo 

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Re: linux-kernel-digest ?

2000-09-21 Thread Matti Aarnio

On Thu, Sep 21, 2000 at 07:38:15AM -0500, Joshua Jore wrote:
> Huh?  *is* supposed to be equivalent to  according to RFC822. 

*NOT* for Procmail's REGULAR EXPRESSIONS.

They are, after all, just regular UNIX REs without special
knowledge about e.g. EMAIL.

/Matti Aarnio
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Re: linux-kernel-digest ?

2000-09-21 Thread Joshua Jore

Huh?  *is* supposed to be equivalent to  according to RFC822. 

>From the spec:

SPACE   =  ; ( 40,  32.)
HTAB= ; ( 11,   9.)
LWSP-char   =  SPACE / HTAB ; semantics = SPACE
linear-white-space =  1*([CRLF] LWSP-char)  ; semantics = SPACE
; CRLF => folding

Josh (not that I need linux-kernel-digest, pine separates linux-kernel to
a folder just fine)

On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Matti Aarnio wrote:

>   I think DaveM also supplied an answer:  "procmail"
> 
>   Select by header:
> 
>   X-Mailing-List:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>   Do note that TAB character, for some reason it really is not space..
>   Store into separate folder from your normal inbox.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 02:26:33PM -0400, Dmitry Pogosyan wrote:
> > Date:   Wed, 20 Sep 2000 14:26:33 -0400
> > From:   Dmitry Pogosyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-12 i686)
> > X-Accept-Language: en
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: linux-kernel-digest ?
> > Precedence: bulk
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Re: linux-kernel-digest ?

2000-09-21 Thread Joshua Jore

Huh? TAB *is* supposed to be equivalent to SPACE according to RFC822. 

From the spec:

SPACE   =  ASCII SP, space; ( 40,  32.)
HTAB=  ASCII HT, horizontal-tab   ; ( 11,   9.)
LWSP-char   =  SPACE / HTAB ; semantics = SPACE
linear-white-space =  1*([CRLF] LWSP-char)  ; semantics = SPACE
; CRLF = folding

Josh (not that I need linux-kernel-digest, pine separates linux-kernel to
a folder just fine)

On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Matti Aarnio wrote:

   I think DaveM also supplied an answer:  "procmail"
 
   Select by header:
 
   X-Mailing-List: TAB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
   Do note that TAB character, for some reason it really is not space..
   Store into separate folder from your normal inbox.
 
 
 On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 02:26:33PM -0400, Dmitry Pogosyan wrote:
  Date:   Wed, 20 Sep 2000 14:26:33 -0400
  From:   Dmitry Pogosyan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-12 i686)
  X-Accept-Language: en
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: linux-kernel-digest ?
  Precedence: bulk
  X-Mailing-List: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: linux-kernel-digest ?

2000-09-21 Thread Alan Cox

   According to DaveM:  No.
   (Sometimes he holds possibly bad opinnions as ferociously as Linus,
but on the other hand, that Majordomo 1.x digester breaks structured
MIME messages BADLY.  It should be trivial to fix, but I don't hack
Md, I hack ZMailer -- and also sometimes the kernel.)

Having slowly switched every list I have to run or help run to mailman I can
recommend the pain of the switch over the pain of running majordomo 

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Re: linux-kernel-digest ?

2000-09-21 Thread Steven Pritchard

Alan Cox said:
 Having slowly switched every list I have to run or help run to mailman I can
 recommend the pain of the switch over the pain of running majordomo 

There is a Majordomo 2 in development.  I'm using it for all of my
lists now.  The upgrade from Majordomo 1 wasn't terribly painful.

Note that it's not really a new version, but rather a total rewrite.
MIME, archives, digests, and everything else you would expect to "just
work" does.  Of course, the catch is that there hasn't been an
official, stable release yet.

See

http://www.hpc.uh.edu/majordomo/#mj2

for more info.

Steve
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Re: linux-kernel-digest ?

2000-09-21 Thread Matti Aarnio

On Thu, Sep 21, 2000 at 11:27:01PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
 From: Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
 Having slowly switched every list I have to run or help run to
 mailman I can recommend the pain of the switch over the pain of
 running majordomo
  
  I suggested this but Matti immediately told me that mailman has
  several RFC compliancy "issues" which I am sure he can elaborate on.
 
 I'd like to hear more. I think mailman is worth fixing even if so - the fact
 folks who change email address dont have to send you hate mail being one
 major reason 8)

  A year or two ago I had a peek after I got reports that it
  didn't work together with ZMailer -- turned out that some
  baseline PYTHON library for SMTP does something stupid in
  its protocol line construction..  The system experiencing
  problems was running ZMailer with ultra-strict RFC 821
  (plus amendaments) mode.

  Ergo, the MAILMAN might be ok, but underneath it there may
  be buggy language library..  (may STILL be, that is.)

  Another point, DaveM, was that MAILMAN is written in Python,
  and neither of us "speaks" that language...


 BTW tell Matti that zmailer is positively vicious - when I put my mail server
 back online on the cable modem after 3 days offline vger streamed mail at it
 at a steady 512Kbits/second and nearly killed it

  Oh dear me.  It is feeding those one message at a time with least
  possible resource usage...  Perhaps it can be made less "vicious"
  with e.g. sprinkling sleep(1) calls all over the code, but I would
  rather not do such a gross thing..

/Matti Aarnio
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Re: linux-kernel-digest ?

2000-09-21 Thread David S. Miller

   Date:Thu, 21 Sep 2000 22:58:16 +0100 (BST)
   From: Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   Having slowly switched every list I have to run or help run to
   mailman I can recommend the pain of the switch over the pain of
   running majordomo

I suggested this but Matti immediately told me that mailman has
several RFC compliancy "issues" which I am sure he can elaborate on.

Later,
David S. Miller
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Re: linux-kernel-digest ?

2000-09-20 Thread Rogier Wolff

Matti Aarnio wrote:
>   I think DaveM also supplied an answer:  "procmail"
> 
>   Select by header:
> 
>   X-Mailing-List:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>   Do note that TAB character, for some reason it really is not space..
>   Store into separate folder from your normal inbox.

Ah!!! Thats why my  there never matched. I just always do:

X-Mailing-List:.*[EMAIL PROTECTED]

but now I know why. Thanks. (This also makes it easy to put all
mailing lists from one site in one mailbox. :-)

Roger. 

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Re: linux-kernel-digest ?

2000-09-20 Thread Matti Aarnio

  I think DaveM also supplied an answer:  "procmail"

  Select by header:

X-Mailing-List:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Do note that TAB character, for some reason it really is not space..
  Store into separate folder from your normal inbox.


On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 02:26:33PM -0400, Dmitry Pogosyan wrote:
> Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 14:26:33 -0400
> From: Dmitry Pogosyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-12 i686)
> X-Accept-Language: en
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: linux-kernel-digest ?
> Precedence: bulk
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Re: linux-kernel-digest ?

2000-09-20 Thread Dmitry Pogosyan

Matti Aarnio wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 04:38:45PM +0100, Robert Greimel wrote:
> > Hi,
> >   I am just wondering if linux-kernel-digest is going to come back.
> > Greetings
>
>   According to DaveM:  No.
>   (Sometimes he holds possibly bad opinnions as ferociously as Linus,
>but on the other hand, that Majordomo 1.x digester breaks structured
>MIME messages BADLY.  It should be trivial to fix, but I don't hack
>Md, I hack ZMailer -- and also sometimes the kernel.)
>

This is very unfortunate, since linux-kernel-digest was the great way to
keep many interested people informed about state of Linux development
Without it,  > 200 mails daily in linux-kernel is fairly prohibitive if you
are not an active developer.

Dmitri Pogosyan


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Re: linux-kernel-digest ?

2000-09-20 Thread Matti Aarnio

On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 04:38:45PM +0100, Robert Greimel wrote:
> Hi,
>   I am just wondering if linux-kernel-digest is going to come back.
> Greetings

  According to DaveM:  No.
  (Sometimes he holds possibly bad opinnions as ferociously as Linus,
   but on the other hand, that Majordomo 1.x digester breaks structured
   MIME messages BADLY.  It should be trivial to fix, but I don't hack
   Md, I hack ZMailer -- and also sometimes the kernel.)

> Robert

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Re: linux-kernel-digest ?

2000-09-20 Thread Matti Aarnio

On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 04:38:45PM +0100, Robert Greimel wrote:
 Hi,
   I am just wondering if linux-kernel-digest is going to come back.
 Greetings

  According to DaveM:  No.
  (Sometimes he holds possibly bad opinnions as ferociously as Linus,
   but on the other hand, that Majordomo 1.x digester breaks structured
   MIME messages BADLY.  It should be trivial to fix, but I don't hack
   Md, I hack ZMailer -- and also sometimes the kernel.)

 Robert

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Re: linux-kernel-digest ?

2000-09-20 Thread Dmitry Pogosyan

Matti Aarnio wrote:

 On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 04:38:45PM +0100, Robert Greimel wrote:
  Hi,
I am just wondering if linux-kernel-digest is going to come back.
  Greetings

   According to DaveM:  No.
   (Sometimes he holds possibly bad opinnions as ferociously as Linus,
but on the other hand, that Majordomo 1.x digester breaks structured
MIME messages BADLY.  It should be trivial to fix, but I don't hack
Md, I hack ZMailer -- and also sometimes the kernel.)


This is very unfortunate, since linux-kernel-digest was the great way to
keep many interested people informed about state of Linux development
Without it,   200 mails daily in linux-kernel is fairly prohibitive if you
are not an active developer.

Dmitri Pogosyan


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Re: linux-kernel-digest ?

2000-09-20 Thread Rogier Wolff

Matti Aarnio wrote:
   I think DaveM also supplied an answer:  "procmail"
 
   Select by header:
 
   X-Mailing-List: TAB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
   Do note that TAB character, for some reason it really is not space..
   Store into separate folder from your normal inbox.

Ah!!! Thats why my space there never matched. I just always do:

X-Mailing-List:.*[EMAIL PROTECTED]

but now I know why. Thanks. (This also makes it easy to put all
mailing lists from one site in one mailbox. :-)

Roger. 

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