Linux-Misc Digest #373

2000-08-07 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Misc Digest #373, Volume #25Mon, 7 Aug 00 16:13:03 EDT

Contents:
  Re: reinstalling LILO (Dances With Crows)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Robert Krawitz)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Robert Krawitz)
  Re: Installing Linux after Windows 2000 Pro ?
  taskbar disappearing under gnome (Matt)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
  Re: Almost Lost New Hard Drive After Linux Install (Svend Olaf Mikkelsen)
  reclaiming master boo block? (Peter Bismuti)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
  xv bugs (Neil Zanella)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: reinstalling LILO
Date: 7 Aug 2000 19:17:30 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Mon, 07 Aug 2000 17:51:52 GMT, Simon Lemieux wrote:
A boot floppy heh? Damn! I don't even have a floppy drive!  Is it
possible to make an image of that floppy and write it to a bootable CD
to transform that bootable floppy into a bootable CD?
Can I make an .ISO image of a floppy disk?

http://www.linuxcare.com/bootable_cd/download.epl

It looks *very* nifty, and provides all kinds of useful rescue/recovery
tools.  Or you could make an El Torito bootable CD if you have a disk
around.  Check the man page for mkisofs, paying attention to the -b and
-c options.  If you have a bootable Linux floppy image file, then you'd
call mkisofs like so:
mkisofs -r -b boot.img -c boot.catalog -o output.iso
/path/to/rest/of/files/you/want/to/put/on/CD
then burn output.iso to CD with cdrecord in the usual manner.

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Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin /   Tyranny is always better organized
http://www.brainbench.com /than freedom.
=/  ==Charles Peguy

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From: Robert Krawitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: 07 Aug 2000 15:32:52 -0400

blowfish [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Zebee Johnstone wrote:

  Which isn't what you said.  You said that the money went either to the
  software company or the taxman.
  
 Gosh!
 
 If you pay the money to the software company, and, as a result, you can
 pay less tax.
 Isn't that you still end up paying less?

Yes, but you still pay more than zero.

  Clearly only half (at a marginal rate of 50%) goes to the taxman.
  
 Then, deduct the other half as business loss. Talk to your tax
 accountant/bean counter.

Well, not quite.  As a business expense, it has already been taken out
of your income.  You can't (legally) deduct it twice.

 Take Boeing as an example.  If they go the free software route, they can
 save millions in software costs, but they decided against it, because
 it's not practical for such a big international corp to switch
 everything, tens of thousands of employees in numourous countries, and,
 the trainning costs and time loss will far outcosted the cost saving in
 free software.

That's quite a different issue.
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Robert Krawitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/

Tall Clubs International  --  http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2
Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Project lead for The Gimp Print --  http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net

"Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works."
--Eric Crampton

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From: Robert Krawitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: 07 Aug 2000 15:35:43 -0400

blowfish [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Also. You did contradicted your own idea of *free software*, as you have
 taken the money from Debian as a reward.
 
 Isn't that your codes should be *FREE* as in money - free, unlike
 non-GNU-GPL codes-which costs money, as in *FREE BEER* too!?

No, "free" as in "free software" only refers to "free speech"
(liberty), not "free beer".  It's perfectly legal to sell GPL'ed
software for whatever the market will bear.  The only thing the seller
has to do is provide the source code, and not restrict further
distribution beyond what the GPL specifies.

-- 
Robert Krawitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/

Tall Clubs International  --  http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2
Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Project lead for The Gimp Print --  http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net

"Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works."
--Eric Crampton

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Installing Linux after Windows 2000 Pro ?
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 15:28:17 -0400

The only thing to worry about is the size of

Linux-Misc Digest #373

1999-05-27 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Misc Digest #373, Volume #20   Thu, 27 May 99 20:13:07 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Netscape 4.60 evaluation (Ron Gibson)
  Re: Netscape crashes and it takes the whole machine with it! (Jerome Mrozak)
  Application/PDF in Netscape 4.51 (Kaya Imre)
  Re: Netscape 4.60 evaluation (Ed Young)
  Re: STB 4mb agp board (Mooniesdl2)
  Re: How to Stay Online - ISP Kicks my off during inactivity (Mario Klebsch)
  Re: Netscape crashes and it takes the whole machine with it! (Jerome Mrozak)
  fetchmailconf stopped working. (Walter Francis)
  mountd changes and Redhat. (Bill Unruh)
  Re: choosing an OS for a retired Sun workstation (Philip Brown)
  Re: Road Runner Customer User Agreement Violation - Using Alternative Operating 
Systems (Hugh Wyn Griffith)
  Re: Fun things to do with an extra linux box (Fred Kuipers)
  PPP under RedHat 6.0 (Nick Birkett)
  Re: URGENT. Dead or life. ("Christopher R. Thompson")
  How to place a filter between client and squid server?! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: choosing an OS for a retired Sun workstation (Lance Woodson)
  Koffice (Paul Trost)
  Re: Port scanner (Bill Unruh)
  Re: Starting X at boot-up (NF Stevens)
  Re: New knfsd trouble (was Re: NFS with Redhat 6 server and clients) 
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Netscape crashes and it takes the whole machine with it! (Douglas Bollinger)
  Re: Port scanner (Mike)
  Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel (Mikhail Teterin)
  Re: edit commands in linux telnet (John P Grimes)
  Re: samba and kernel 2.2.x don't work together (Do-Hoon Kwon)



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ron Gibson)
Subject: Re: Netscape 4.60 evaluation
Date: 27 May 1999 21:53:00 GMT

On Thu, 27 May 1999 16:51:05, Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  What problems are you having with java sites?
  
 
 As soon as it is to start loading java stuff netscape vanishes and leaves only
 a lock file. It basically kills netscape. If I go back to Netscape 4.5 it loads
 the java stuff but eventually crashes netscape.
 
 I have RedHat 6.0 with 40M of RAM, two swap partitions of 64M and lotsa hard disk 
space.
 300-400M, I have a Cyrix 686 230Mhz.
 
I'm using an old DX4-100, 40 megs ram and 16 megs of swap and I haven't
had that problem.  I have a glitch in sending email, but that isn't
really a priority. 

I followed the instructions for modifying /etc/profile and used
ns-install to /communicator.

The only different thing I've done was to place a copy of the java*.jar
file (excuse me but I'm currently in OS/2 and don't want to reboot to
give the exact file name) where netscape Gold 3.01 had it,
/usr/local/netscape I believe is the path.  I moved the old Java file to
another directory and renamed my /home/.netscape file. 

Almost forgot.  I updated my lib* files with the netscape fix that
theopolis has on his web page a while back.

ldd /communicator/netscape reports all lib files are present and
accounted for.

  email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: Jerome Mrozak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Netscape crashes and it takes the whole machine with it!
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 12:49:29 -0500



Do-Hoon Kwon wrote:
 
 Hi,
  Thanks for you reply.
  I have all the above items configured right as a matter of fact and I'm
 sure that it's not netscape directly responsible for the hang. It might
 have
 triggered it, though.
  I mean a *complete* lockup. No response to keyboard, mouse, net
 connection,
 etc. It even doesn't response to ping.
  Come to think of it, I don't think I had this kind of lockups before I
 added
 a second NIC. Beginning to suspect tulip driver or my cheap PNIC
 cards...
  Thanks.
 
 Do-Hoon Kwon
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'm pretty much a newbie to Linux, but I thought you couldn't crash the
machine with an application.  Or, putting it another way, what things
(drivers, etc.) can crash a Linux system if written/installed wrong?

Jerome.

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From: Kaya Imre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Application/PDF in Netscape 4.51
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 15:14:02 +

I downloaded and installed Acrobat4 and set it as an
application to Netscape4.51.  When I call a pdf file
the acroread comes up but it cannot find the downloaded
pdf file.  If I search the cache directory and find it
in a subdirectory there the I can read it fine.

How could I do this automatically?
-TIA

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From: Ed Young [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Netscape 4.60 evaluation
Date: 27 May 1999 21:41:09 GMT

Michel wrote:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Chris Aiken wrote:
  
   I downloaded 4.6 from Netscape in the form of a gzipped tarball file.
   I installed in my /opt directory w/o any problems at all.  I edited the
   /bin/netscape script to point to my new version being careful not to
   destroy the old version.  It works great!  No problems so far.  It
   seems to be a 

Linux-Misc Digest #373

1999-03-08 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Misc Digest #373, Volume #19Mon, 8 Mar 99 20:13:08 EST

Contents:
  Re: Pentium III Boycott and survey info (Anthony Ord)
  Re: egcs 1.0.2-8 and exceptions - broken in this version? (ElfMff)
  Netscape problems under Linux (Al Wang)
  Embedded linux + X ? (=?iso-8859-1?Q?S=E9bastien?= HUET)
  Re: best offline newsreader? (Stan Barr)
  Re: No-Win Modem Situation ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  RH 5.2 - Maxtor - LILO - MBR - failure to write ("Kirby James")
  Re: No-Win Modem Situation ("Rufus V. Smith")
  Re: Is this a winmodem? (Mircea)
  Glint broken under OpenLinux? (Steve Howie)
  Re: Using lynx... How? ("Atsushi Nakagawa")
  Re: Question on using 5.2: (David Kirkpatrick)
  Re: Startup... (David Kirkpatrick)
  Re: strange goings on... (David Kirkpatrick)
  Re: A LUG in Vermont (David W. Schuler)
  Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? (Ian D Romanick)
  Great new Linux site (arty)
  Re: best offline newsreader? (Jason Clifford)
  Re: Adding users and changing passwords (in scripts) ("JACK")
  Re: No-Win Modem Situation ("Mike McCormac")
  Re: Memory regions and Linux (Mark Tranchant)
  New tool I've written... want it? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Linux Wannabe: which distribution? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Uh-oh, I've got kernel panic ([EMAIL PROTECTED])



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony Ord)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Pentium III Boycott and survey info
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 18:35:08 GMT

On Wed, 3 Mar 1999 00:52:31 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony D. Tribelli)
wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony D. Tribelli) wrote:

: Please do so. I don't believe you'll find an undocumented reset
: instruction. You will probably find code that sets up BIOS to do a warm
: boot and then asks the keyboard controller to reset the CPU. Later methods
: used special I/O ports and multiple CPU faults. 
:
: actually, what this "undocumented" reset is is simply diliberately
: creating a triple fault.  the cpu can catch a double fault and recover
: but the cpu resets under a triple fault situation.  the code placed at
: the restart point is aware of what happened and gracefully recovers as
: if just switching back to real mode.  just like has been explained.

Agreed, but it's not a simple 'instruction', and messing with the
Interrupt Descriptor Table is not something a user level program can do.

With IE "a part of the OS" and ActiveX components running amok within
it, the "user level" is problem is academic.

Got the nastiest feeling this is going to turn out like the f00f
problem...

Tony

Regards

Anthony
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| And when our worlds   |
| They fall apart   |
| When the walls come tumbling in   |
| Though we may deserve it  |
| It will be worth it  - Depeche Mode   |
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ElfMff)
Subject: Re: egcs 1.0.2-8 and exceptions - broken in this version?
Date: 8 Mar 1999 23:00:10 GMT

I am not SURE that there is a specific problem with what you are doing but I
ran into several problems with the egcs compiler.  I went to egcs.cygnus.com,
followed the direections and downloaded  and installed the more recent version
of egcs (I think it's 1.1 or so) and this solved some major problems. 
(unfortunately there are still some compilation errors)

anyway, hope this helps in some way - good luck

Mike


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From: Al Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Netscape problems under Linux
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 17:04:53 -0500

Hi all,

I'm running Red Hat 5.1 on a PII-233.  I'm experiencing two annoying
little quirks with Netscape 4.07, and I'm just wondering if other people
have seen the same thing:

1) Even though I'm running X-windows in 24-bit color, the Netscape
buttons are all in black-and-white.  Images appear to be displayed in
their proper color depth, it's just the Netscape interface itself that's
not getting any color.

2) If I start netscape with a local html file as an argument, like
'netscape index.html', it takes a LONG time to start up.  We're talking
3-4 minutes.  If I start up netscape with no arguments, it comes up very
quickly(although for some reason, it still starts up with a Red Hat
documentation screen, even though my preferences are for it to be set to
a blank page)

Any help on either of these issues?  Would upgrading to 4.5 do the
trick?

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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=E9bastien?= HUET [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Embedded linux + X ?
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 18:50:31 +0100

LEM is a small linux based distrib with X Server  11Mo

see, help, insult, contribute -

http://perso.club-internet.fr/sebhuet/lem.html



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