ISA Memory hole at 15-16 MB

2000-08-03 Thread Abhishek Khaitan

Hi!

While I was going through the Linux Device Drivers book by Allessandro
Rubini, I came to know that at the time of 286 computers, ISA memory was
mapped between 15 and 16MB for RAM. Since at that time nobody had more than
1-2 MB of RAM, people had no problems accessing the ISA memory. 

But now, as everybody has around 64MB RAM, so when we access that memory
between 15 and 16MB (the ISA memory hole), are we referring to physical RAM
or to ISA card's memory?

Where can I get more details on this?

Thanks  Regards,
Abhishek Khaitan



Re: FAQ

2000-08-03 Thread Marc Mutz

Gregory Leblanc wrote:
 
snip
2.4. How do I apply the patch to a kernel that I just downloaded from
ftp.kernel.org?
 
Put the downloaded kernel in /usr/src. Change to this directory, and
move any directory called linux to something else. Then, type tar
-Ixvf kernel-2.2.16.tar.bz2, replacing kernel-2.2.16.tar.bz2 with your
kernel. Then cd to /usr/src/linux, and run patch -p1  raid-2.2.16-A0.
Then compile the kernel as usual.

My tar cannot use bz2-compressed unless used with
--use-compress-program=bzip2. so that line sould probably read "bzcat
kernel-2.2.16.tar.bz2 | tar xf -". Also the only tar I saw that knows
bzip2 is slackware's and it uses the '-y' switch for that. I never saw
the '-I' switch for tar and my 'info tar' does not list it. Bottomline:
Your tar is too customized to be in a FAQ.

Marc


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Re: FAQ

2000-08-03 Thread Edward Schernau

Marc Mutz wrote:
 
 My tar cannot use bz2-compressed unless used with
 --use-compress-program=bzip2. so that line sould probably read "bzcat
 kernel-2.2.16.tar.bz2 | tar xf -". Also the only tar I saw that knows
 bzip2 is slackware's and it uses the '-y' switch for that. I never saw
 the '-I' switch for tar and my 'info tar' does not list it. Bottomline:
 Your tar is too customized to be in a FAQ.

How about both options?  The tar that comes with RH6.2 does this just
fine...

Ed

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Re: FAQ

2000-08-03 Thread Mr. James W. Laferriere

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Hello Marc ,

On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Marc Mutz wrote:
 Gregory Leblanc wrote:
 snip
 2.4. How do I apply the patch to a kernel that I just downloaded from
 ftp.kernel.org?
 Put the downloaded kernel in /usr/src. Change to this directory, and
 move any directory called linux to something else. Then, type tar
 -Ixvf kernel-2.2.16.tar.bz2, replacing kernel-2.2.16.tar.bz2 with your
 kernel. Then cd to /usr/src/linux, and run patch -p1  raid-2.2.16-A0.
 Then compile the kernel as usual.

 My tar cannot use bz2-compressed unless used with
 ...snip...
 Your tar is too customized to be in a FAQ.
Unless you want to provide a URL: to the modified sources ?
OR Just goto ftp.gnu.org grab the original  stick to just "it's"
available options .  Just my unneeded opinion .  JimL

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Re: raid-2.2.17-A0 cleanup for LVM

2000-08-03 Thread G.W. Wettstein

On Aug 2,  7:12pm, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
} Subject: raid-2.2.17-A0 cleanup for LVM

 This patch cleanups the new raid code so that we have a chance that LVM on
 top of RAID will keep working. It's untested at the moment.
 
   
ftp://ftp.*.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/andrea/patches/v2.2/2.2.17pre13/raid-2.2.17-A0/raid-lvm-cleanup-1

What are people using for LVM code on 2.2.1[67]?

The only thing that I have found reliable was a port of the 8i stuff
that a gentleman created which he said he was submitting to Heinz for
approval.  I had to couple this with the 2/10/1999 toolset in order to
get a complete system.

I have been using this in a limited production environment but
considering the pathway to it I have been reluctant to really put the
system under stress.

The LVM code looks very promising and well-done and essential to those
of us in production environments.  There doesn't appear to be a clear
path to follow for those of us working with late 2.2.x kernels.

I tried merging the LVM patches that I am using with the 2.2.16 RAID
patchset but there is a massive collision in ll_rw_blk.c file that
doesn't appear to be straight forward in its resolution.

 Andrea

Greg

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Re: FAQ

2000-08-03 Thread James Manning

[Marc Mutz]
 2.4. How do I apply the patch to a kernel that I just downloaded from
 ftp.kernel.org?
  
 Put the downloaded kernel in /usr/src. Change to this directory, and
 move any directory called linux to something else. Then, type tar
 -Ixvf kernel-2.2.16.tar.bz2, replacing kernel-2.2.16.tar.bz2 with your
 kernel. Then cd to /usr/src/linux, and run patch -p1  raid-2.2.16-A0.
 Then compile the kernel as usual.
 
 Your tar is too customized to be in a FAQ.

there is no bzip2 standard in gnu tar, so let's be intelligent and avoid
the issue by going with the .gz tarball as a recommendation.  -z is
standard.

Also, none of the tarballs will start with "kernel-" but "linux-"
anyway, so that needs fixing.  Also, I'd add "/path/to/" before the
raid in the patch command, since otherwise we'd need to tell them to
move the patch over to that directory (pedantic, yes, but still)

oh, and "move any directory called linux to something else" seems to
miss the possibility of a symlink, where renaming the symlink would
be kind of pointless.  Whether tar would just kill the symlink at
extract time anyway is worth a check.
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Re: raid-2.2.17-A0 cleanup for LVM

2000-08-03 Thread Andrea Arcangeli

On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, G.W. Wettstein wrote:

On Aug 2,  7:12pm, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
} Subject: raid-2.2.17-A0 cleanup for LVM

 This patch cleanups the new raid code so that we have a chance that LVM on
 top of RAID will keep working. It's untested at the moment.
 
  
ftp://ftp.*.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/andrea/patches/v2.2/2.2.17pre13/raid-2.2.17-A0/raid-lvm-cleanup-1

What are people using for LVM code on 2.2.1[67]?

Grab 2.2.15aa1 or 2.2.17pre11aa2, they have completly reliable LVM (I also
switch between it and 2.4.x stock without changing anything). It can be
used for production. You can find the separate patches that compose that
kernel in the ftp site as well.

Andrea




Re: ISA Memory hole at 15-16 MB

2000-08-03 Thread Johannes Niess

Abhishek Khaitan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi!
 
 While I was going through the Linux Device Drivers book by Allessandro
 Rubini, I came to know that at the time of 286 computers, ISA memory was
 mapped between 15 and 16MB for RAM. Since at that time nobody had more than
 1-2 MB of RAM, people had no problems accessing the ISA memory. 
 
 But now, as everybody has around 64MB RAM, so when we access that memory
 between 15 and 16MB (the ISA memory hole), are we referring to physical RAM
 or to ISA card's memory?
 
 Where can I get more details on this?

Abhishek,

Nowaday BIOS'es have an option for this. If enabled, your RAM is
reduced to 15 MB. Off is the default value, but I don't know how the
ISA bus is adressed in this mode.

Johannes Nieß



Re: FAQ

2000-08-03 Thread Luca Berra

On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 01:34:33PM -0400, James Manning wrote:
 there is no bzip2 standard in gnu tar, so let's be intelligent and avoid
 the issue by going with the .gz tarball as a recommendation.  -z is
 standard.
 

from the info page from gnu tar 1.13.17:

`--bzip2'
`-I'
 This option tells `tar' to read or write archives through `bzip2'.

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Re: raid-2.2.17-A0 cleanup for LVM

2000-08-03 Thread Luca Berra

On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 07:55:18PM +0200, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
 On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, G.W. Wettstein wrote:
 Grab 2.2.15aa1 or 2.2.17pre11aa2, they have completly reliable LVM (I also
 switch between it and 2.4.x stock without changing anything). It can be
 used for production. You can find the separate patches that compose that
 kernel in the ftp site as well.

strange i was never able to run lvm on top ov raid with 2.4
the lvm tools just don't guess what an md device is :(

L.

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Re: FAQ

2000-08-03 Thread James Manning

[Luca Berra]
 from the info page from gnu tar 1.13.17:
 
 `--bzip2'
 `-I'
  This option tells `tar' to read or write archives through `bzip2'.

As mentioned previously, this is a distro-specific hack.  I have it in
my tar as well, but trusting it to be part of core GNU tar just because
it works on your system is silly.

version 1.13 is the latest at ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/tar/
and specifically mentions the bzip2 situation in its NEWS file:

+++
* An interim GNU tar alpha had new --bzip2 and --ending-file options,
  but they have been removed to maintain compatibility with paxutils.
  Please try --use=bzip2 instead of --bzip2.
+++

Checking the ChangeLog shows bzip2 support added 1999-02-01 (in the form
of -y, --bzip2, and --bunzip2) and then removed 1999-06-16

In any case, it certainly is true that we can trust -z to be
around on any standard Linux install, and as such it is the
correct answer to this thread.
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RE: FAQ

2000-08-03 Thread Gregory Leblanc

 -Original Message-
 From: James Manning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 10:35 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: FAQ
 
 [Marc Mutz]
  2.4. How do I apply the patch to a kernel that I just 
 downloaded from
  ftp.kernel.org?
   
  Put the downloaded kernel in /usr/src. Change to this 
 directory, and
  move any directory called linux to something else. 
 Then, type tar
  -Ixvf kernel-2.2.16.tar.bz2, replacing 
 kernel-2.2.16.tar.bz2 with your
  kernel. Then cd to /usr/src/linux, and run patch -p1  
 raid-2.2.16-A0.
  Then compile the kernel as usual.
  
  Your tar is too customized to be in a FAQ.
 
 there is no bzip2 standard in gnu tar, so let's be 
 intelligent and avoid
 the issue by going with the .gz tarball as a recommendation.  -z is
 standard.

It's going to be changed to the POSIX tar and GNU gzip invoked separately,
because everybody felt the need to bitch, and because people aren't smart
enough to not send me two copies of the message.  :-)

 Also, none of the tarballs will start with "kernel-" but "linux-"
 anyway, so that needs fixing.  Also, I'd add "/path/to/" before the
 raid in the patch command, since otherwise we'd need to tell them to
 move the patch over to that directory (pedantic, yes, but still)

ok, cool, I'll fix those.  

 oh, and "move any directory called linux to something else" seems to
 miss the possibility of a symlink, where renaming the symlink would
 be kind of pointless.  Whether tar would just kill the symlink at
 extract time anyway is worth a check.

Tar likes to clobber things when I give it half a chance.  I'll mention
about the symlink a bit more, although perhaps I should just tell people
that they're expected to be familiar with downloading, unpacking, and
building kernels before they read this document.
Greg



RE: FAQ

2000-08-03 Thread Abhishek Khaitan

Can;t we use bunzip2 instead of playing with tar? And after bunzip2, try tar
-x  kernel-2.2.16.tar ?

 -Original Message-
 From: James Manning [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 10:35 AM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: FAQ
 
 [Marc Mutz]
  2.4. How do I apply the patch to a kernel that I just downloaded
 from
  ftp.kernel.org?
   
  Put the downloaded kernel in /usr/src. Change to this directory,
 and
  move any directory called linux to something else. Then, type tar
  -Ixvf kernel-2.2.16.tar.bz2, replacing kernel-2.2.16.tar.bz2 with
 your
  kernel. Then cd to /usr/src/linux, and run patch -p1 
 raid-2.2.16-A0.
  Then compile the kernel as usual.
  
  Your tar is too customized to be in a FAQ.
 
 there is no bzip2 standard in gnu tar, so let's be intelligent and avoid
 the issue by going with the .gz tarball as a recommendation.  -z is
 standard.
 
 Also, none of the tarballs will start with "kernel-" but "linux-"
 anyway, so that needs fixing.  Also, I'd add "/path/to/" before the
 raid in the patch command, since otherwise we'd need to tell them to
 move the patch over to that directory (pedantic, yes, but still)
 
 oh, and "move any directory called linux to something else" seems to
 miss the possibility of a symlink, where renaming the symlink would
 be kind of pointless.  Whether tar would just kill the symlink at
 extract time anyway is worth a check.
 -- 
 James Manning [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 GPG Key fingerprint = B913 2FBD 14A9 CE18 B2B7  9C8E A0BF B026 EEBB F6E4