Re: [linux-sunxi] Allwinner R8 module
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Simos Xenitellis simos.li...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 3:01 AM, Marius Cirsta mfor...@gmail.com wrote: Indeed , my guess is that info will be available soon on this R8 but I guess these guys spilled the beans early. I also do wonder if it will still have the Mali400. As for the board itself , let's see if they deliver and how they'll cooperate with linux-sunxi. If it is indeed a sham than there will be a lot of pissed people. I think they had to give details about the SoC since they are doing the campaign on Kickstarter. It looks like their campaign will surpass $1m and there will be a lot of interest to get things done. Tsvetan mentioned in a prior blog post that Allwinner was OK to make a batch of at least 50K A10 SoCs, if requested ( https://olimex.wordpress.com/2015/04/07/how-50-000-a10-socs-from-allwinner-looks-like/). The C.H.I.P. campaign so far has pledges for about 23K R8 SoCs and it is bound to go much higher than that. Whether the R8 will be available outside the C.H.I.P. campaign, remains to be seen. With the RPi, it appears there was no exclusivity with Broadcom on paper but the RPi Foundation might have requested anyway from Broadcom not to sell the SoC to Hardkernel ( http://slated.org/the_curious_case_of_raspberry_pi_consumerism). It does not look like the campaigners for C.H.I.P. are the types to request exclusivity for the R8. For example, see their website at http://nextthing.co The KERNEL HACKERS ONLY pledge was already taken by 606 backers (est delivery: Sept 2015). Most probably these people will be joining this list to get mainline support for the device. Again, checking the campaigner's website at http://nextthing.co/ shows that they do not even have yet a forum or mailing list for their existing products. I think it is up to actions happening here, whether the whole thing will be beneficial to the linux-sunxi community. Personally, I am inclined to contact them. In terms of contacting the CHIP team, they have a subreddit at https://www.reddit.com/r/ChipCommunity/ There is a discussion for unanswered questions (age: 4h) at https://www.reddit.com/r/ChipCommunity/comments/36ldau/unanswered_questions/ Simos -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups linux-sunxi group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to linux-sunxi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [linux-sunxi] Allwinner R8 module
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 3:01 AM, Marius Cirsta mfor...@gmail.com wrote: Indeed , my guess is that info will be available soon on this R8 but I guess these guys spilled the beans early. I also do wonder if it will still have the Mali400. As for the board itself , let's see if they deliver and how they'll cooperate with linux-sunxi. If it is indeed a sham than there will be a lot of pissed people. I think they had to give details about the SoC since they are doing the campaign on Kickstarter. It looks like their campaign will surpass $1m and there will be a lot of interest to get things done. Tsvetan mentioned in a prior blog post that Allwinner was OK to make a batch of at least 50K A10 SoCs, if requested ( https://olimex.wordpress.com/2015/04/07/how-50-000-a10-socs-from-allwinner-looks-like/). The C.H.I.P. campaign so far has pledges for about 23K R8 SoCs and it is bound to go much higher than that. Whether the R8 will be available outside the C.H.I.P. campaign, remains to be seen. With the RPi, it appears there was no exclusivity with Broadcom on paper but the RPi Foundation might have requested anyway from Broadcom not to sell the SoC to Hardkernel ( http://slated.org/the_curious_case_of_raspberry_pi_consumerism). It does not look like the campaigners for C.H.I.P. are the types to request exclusivity for the R8. For example, see their website at http://nextthing.co The KERNEL HACKERS ONLY pledge was already taken by 606 backers (est delivery: Sept 2015). Most probably these people will be joining this list to get mainline support for the device. Again, checking the campaigner's website at http://nextthing.co/ shows that they do not even have yet a forum or mailing list for their existing products. I think it is up to actions happening here, whether the whole thing will be beneficial to the linux-sunxi community. Personally, I am inclined to contact them. Simos -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups linux-sunxi group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to linux-sunxi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [linux-sunxi] Allwinner R8 module
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 4:49 AM, jonsm...@gmail.com jonsm...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone have any info on the new Allwinner R8 module being used in the Chip $9 PC Kickstarter? It is A13+flash+RAM on module. I'd like to get a pin out and projected price. That module has to be really low cost if they are able to make a $9 computer out of it. The Kickstarter page, in the Thank You section, includes: «The entire Allwinner team (Ben, Wang Kang, Yinwei, Jet)» You could ask them if they have such details available at this stage. In addition, there is a pledge titled Kernel Hackers Only with projected delivery on Sept 2015 with 485 pledges taken already. These are for the alpha model of the board, so the earliest opportunity to see the R8 would be to get onto that pledge. Would the R8 SoC be finalized by that time and any changes would be for the other parts of the board. Simos -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups linux-sunxi group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to linux-sunxi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [linux-sunxi] Allwinner R8 module
Hello, On 11 May 2015 at 12:05, Simos Xenitellis simos.li...@googlemail.com wrote: On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 4:49 AM, jonsm...@gmail.com jonsm...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone have any info on the new Allwinner R8 module being used in the Chip $9 PC Kickstarter? It is A13+flash+RAM on module. I'd like to get a pin out and projected price. That module has to be really low cost if they are able to make a $9 computer out of it. The Kickstarter page, in the Thank You section, includes: «The entire Allwinner team (Ben, Wang Kang, Yinwei, Jet)» You could ask them if they have such details available at this stage. In addition, there is a pledge titled Kernel Hackers Only with projected delivery on Sept 2015 with 485 pledges taken already. These are for the alpha model of the board, so the earliest opportunity to see the R8 would be to get onto that pledge. Would the R8 SoC be finalized by that time and any changes would be for the other parts of the board. This is an interesting project. Sadly it comes a bit too late for me. I have pretty much all the parts for the pocketable version by now and a few spare boards already. The only missing bit is the keyboard but I am not overly excited about the keyboard developed as part of this project. The URL for reference as it is not the most searchable thing. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1598272670/chip-the-worlds-first-9-computer Out of curiosity it would be interesting to get my hands on the board. It might be good alternative to Lime since the GPIO connectors seem more usable. Unfortunately the postage for $9 board is $20 on kickstarter so I guess I can wait until it is available at some Chinese stores if that is going to happen. Thanks Michal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups linux-sunxi group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to linux-sunxi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [linux-sunxi] Allwinner R8 module
Hi, On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 2:13 AM, Marius Cirsta mfor...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, May 11, 2015 at 5:24:01 AM UTC+3, Luc Verhaegen wrote: On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 09:49:43PM -0400, jons...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone have any info on the new Allwinner R8 module being used in the Chip $9 PC Kickstarter? It is A13+flash+RAM on module. I'd like to get a pin out and projected price. That module has to be really low cost if they are able to make a $9 computer out of it. *sigh* I am amazed that people still fall for what i can now only call the kickstarter trap. Yeah, it's a bunch of crap, crowdfunding we're better of letting the corporations and investment funds deciding what to fund and what not. Why are we arguing about whether or not crowdfunding and this particular campaign is viable when the question was only using it to point out that the particular SoC was probably cheap? Like *mumble*% of kickstarter projects, it's probably too good to be true, but who here really cares? And if they do, why are we hijacking Jon's question to make that point? IIRC the actual question was where / when will the R8 SoC be available for other device builders? Does anyone actually have any useful info on that? Thanks, -- Julian Calaby Email: julian.cal...@gmail.com Profile: http://www.google.com/profiles/julian.calaby/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups linux-sunxi group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to linux-sunxi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [linux-sunxi] Allwinner R8 module
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 7:44 PM, Julian Calaby julian.cal...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 2:13 AM, Marius Cirsta mfor...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, May 11, 2015 at 5:24:01 AM UTC+3, Luc Verhaegen wrote: On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 09:49:43PM -0400, jons...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone have any info on the new Allwinner R8 module being used in the Chip $9 PC Kickstarter? It is A13+flash+RAM on module. I'd like to get a pin out and projected price. That module has to be really low cost if they are able to make a $9 computer out of it. *sigh* I am amazed that people still fall for what i can now only call the kickstarter trap. Yeah, it's a bunch of crap, crowdfunding we're better of letting the corporations and investment funds deciding what to fund and what not. Why are we arguing about whether or not crowdfunding and this particular campaign is viable when the question was only using it to point out that the particular SoC was probably cheap? Like *mumble*% of kickstarter projects, it's probably too good to be true, but who here really cares? And if they do, why are we hijacking Jon's question to make that point? IIRC the actual question was where / when will the R8 SoC be available for other device builders? Allwinner has not officially announced anything yet, but it will be available real soon and it is pretty cheap. I don't have pin outs yet so I am not sure yet if the modules works for me. I have a specific set of peripherals I have to have. Does anyone actually have any useful info on that? Thanks, -- Julian Calaby Email: julian.cal...@gmail.com Profile: http://www.google.com/profiles/julian.calaby/ -- Jon Smirl jonsm...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups linux-sunxi group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to linux-sunxi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [linux-sunxi] Allwinner R8 module
On Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 2:44:50 AM UTC+3, Julian Calaby wrote: Hi, On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 2:13 AM, Marius Cirsta mfo...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: On Monday, May 11, 2015 at 5:24:01 AM UTC+3, Luc Verhaegen wrote: On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 09:49:43PM -0400, jons...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone have any info on the new Allwinner R8 module being used in the Chip $9 PC Kickstarter? It is A13+flash+RAM on module. I'd like to get a pin out and projected price. That module has to be really low cost if they are able to make a $9 computer out of it. *sigh* I am amazed that people still fall for what i can now only call the kickstarter trap. Yeah, it's a bunch of crap, crowdfunding we're better of letting the corporations and investment funds deciding what to fund and what not. Why are we arguing about whether or not crowdfunding and this particular campaign is viable when the question was only using it to point out that the particular SoC was probably cheap? Like *mumble*% of kickstarter projects, it's probably too good to be true, but who here really cares? And if they do, why are we hijacking Jon's question to make that point? IIRC the actual question was where / when will the R8 SoC be available for other device builders? Does anyone actually have any useful info on that? Thanks, Indeed , my guess is that info will be available soon on this R8 but I guess these guys spilled the beans early. I also do wonder if it will still have the Mali400. As for the board itself , let's see if they deliver and how they'll cooperate with linux-sunxi. If it is indeed a sham than there will be a lot of pissed people. -- Julian Calaby Email: julian...@gmail.com javascript: Profile: http://www.google.com/profiles/julian.calaby/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups linux-sunxi group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to linux-sunxi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [linux-sunxi] Allwinner R8 module
On Monday, May 11, 2015 at 5:24:01 AM UTC+3, Luc Verhaegen wrote: On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 09:49:43PM -0400, jons...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Does anyone have any info on the new Allwinner R8 module being used in the Chip $9 PC Kickstarter? It is A13+flash+RAM on module. I'd like to get a pin out and projected price. That module has to be really low cost if they are able to make a $9 computer out of it. *sigh* I am amazed that people still fall for what i can now only call the kickstarter trap. Yeah, it's a bunch of crap, crowdfunding we're better of letting the corporations and investment funds deciding what to fund and what not. * only 9usd Exactly, that's the price of a beer in some cities, how dare they ? * 1y delivery time Too little, too much, I didn't even get this one. Usually things get delayed but that's how it almost always is. * full mainline support Yeah, nonsense, it's probably just a trick till they port Windows 10 for it. * linux-sunxi is not mentioned even once Bastards, we'll make them mention Dennis Ritchie, Richard Stallman, Linus Torwalds, linux-sunxi and hmm maybe even Steve Jobs ? :D None of that fits together, and i am amazed that people actually fall for that still. A bunch of idiots these people we should have started clean a long time ago but it's too late now, there's too many of them, sigh. Luc Verhaegen. Marius Cirsta, who appreciates your work but is now pretty sick and tired of your contant ranting about everything. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups linux-sunxi group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to linux-sunxi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [linux-sunxi] Allwinner R8 module
On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 10:23 PM, Luc Verhaegen l...@skynet.be wrote: On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 09:49:43PM -0400, jonsm...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone have any info on the new Allwinner R8 module being used in the Chip $9 PC Kickstarter? It is A13+flash+RAM on module. I'd like to get a pin out and projected price. That module has to be really low cost if they are able to make a $9 computer out of it. *sigh* I am amazed that people still fall for what i can now only call the kickstarter trap. * only 9usd * 1y delivery time * full mainline support * linux-sunxi is not mentioned even once I don't care about their board, I want to know the price/specs of the R8 module from Allwinner. I want to put it on my own board. None of that fits together, and i am amazed that people actually fall for that still. Luc Verhaegen. -- Jon Smirl jonsm...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups linux-sunxi group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to linux-sunxi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[linux-sunxi] Allwinner R8 module
Does anyone have any info on the new Allwinner R8 module being used in the Chip $9 PC Kickstarter? It is A13+flash+RAM on module. I'd like to get a pin out and projected price. That module has to be really low cost if they are able to make a $9 computer out of it. -- Jon Smirl jonsm...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups linux-sunxi group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to linux-sunxi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [linux-sunxi] Allwinner R8 module
On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 09:49:43PM -0400, jonsm...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone have any info on the new Allwinner R8 module being used in the Chip $9 PC Kickstarter? It is A13+flash+RAM on module. I'd like to get a pin out and projected price. That module has to be really low cost if they are able to make a $9 computer out of it. *sigh* I am amazed that people still fall for what i can now only call the kickstarter trap. * only 9usd * 1y delivery time * full mainline support * linux-sunxi is not mentioned even once None of that fits together, and i am amazed that people actually fall for that still. Luc Verhaegen. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups linux-sunxi group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to linux-sunxi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [linux-sunxi] Allwinner R8 module
I think you should be happy that your work is in use by thousands. And there is mention of sunxi in QA “I want to know more about the Allwinner R8 processor!”. Clement On May 11, 2015, at 10:23 AM, Luc Verhaegen l...@skynet.be wrote: On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 09:49:43PM -0400, jonsm...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone have any info on the new Allwinner R8 module being used in the Chip $9 PC Kickstarter? It is A13+flash+RAM on module. I'd like to get a pin out and projected price. That module has to be really low cost if they are able to make a $9 computer out of it. *sigh* I am amazed that people still fall for what i can now only call the kickstarter trap. * only 9usd * 1y delivery time * full mainline support * linux-sunxi is not mentioned even once None of that fits together, and i am amazed that people actually fall for that still. Luc Verhaegen. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups linux-sunxi group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to linux-sunxi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups linux-sunxi group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to linux-sunxi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.