Re: Shane B. did it !!

2003-07-17 Thread Michael Scottaline
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 19:56:11 -0400
Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted:

Got a call this afternoon asking whether I was alive or not; as I was unsure 
at the time I went and looked, sure enough I was there. So Shane asked me why

I disappeared, that there were some users that were asking what happened to 
me ? I was sure that I would not be missed afer mostly lurking.

Anyway I am flattered that anyone was interested enough to ask where the 
'thong' was and was he ok. It was a set of circumstances that took me 
offline.
==
Hey, ol' Timer; you had a bunch of us worried!!!   Good to hear from you
again.
===

I changed my ISP and in doing so I unsubbed, but I did mail Doug with what I 
was doing and that maybe it was best if I retired to oblivion. I could not 
see the point if I was just lurking nowadays and not being able to contribute

to the discussions. It has got to the stage were my ability to keep up with 
the changes in linux deteriorated badly. I am tending to be in kernel 2.2 
days and I also forget simple Cline commands. As most know I am 70+ and try
as I might learning is now taking a great deal of effort. Still do builds and

installs, but no networking anymore, or complicated stuff.

I'm only 50+ and don't do the complicated stuff.  Just lurk, learn, and
occasionally make a comment, so we know you're well ;o)
==

Oh, yes thanks for going to the trouble Shane. Sheesh now i'll have a big
mail box again.

Guess you've resubbed, huh?  :o)
Best,
Mike

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Re: Shane B. did it !!

2003-07-17 Thread Tony Alfrey
On Thursday 17 July 2003 04:56 pm, Keith Antoine wrote:
 Got a call this afternoon asking whether I was alive or not; as I was
 unsure at the time I went and looked, sure enough I was there. So
 Shane asked me why I disappeared, that there were some users that
 were asking what happened to me ? I was sure that I would not be
 missed afer mostly lurking.

Jeeze, we thought you'd gotten eaten by one of those Great Barrier Reef 
sharks or something.  Good to see you're back!
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Re: Arggggg ... Patching driving me nuts!!!!

2003-07-17 Thread Ben Duncan
Thanks Kurt  still pretty foggy, but the Sun IS starting to lift on it.

Anyway, When the output of the DIFF is run in a patch routine,
Do the Minuses get taken away and the Pluses added to the
routine being patched ?
Thanks ..

Kurt Wall wrote:
@@ ... @@ characterizes a hunk or set of differences between the 
files compared. -M,N +O,P says the N-sized context starting at line M
in the first file maps to the P-sized context starting at line O in the
second file, after the change described in the following lines is
applied to the first file. Consider the following:

$ diff -u config.orig config
@@ -65,7 +65,6 @@
 CONFIG_X86_GOOD_APIC=y
 CONFIG_X86_INTEL_USERCOPY=y
 CONFIG_X86_USE_PPRO_CHECKSUM=y
-CONFIG_X86_SSE2=y
 # CONFIG_HUGETLB_PAGE is not set
 CONFIG_SMP=y
 # CONFIG_PREEMPT is not set
This says that the that read CONFIG_X86_SSE2=y was deleted (hence the
-) from the first file (config.orig), which looked like this:
65 CONFIG_X86_GOOD_APIC=y
66 CONFIG_X86_INTEL_USERCOPY=y
67 CONFIG_X86_USE_PPRO_CHECKSUM=y
68 CONFIG_X86_SSE2=y
69 # CONFIG_HUGETLB_PAGE is not set
70 CONFIG_SMP=y
71 # CONFIG_PREEMPT is not set
The second file (config) looked like this after the deleted line:

65 CONFIG_X86_GOOD_APIC=y
66 CONFIG_X86_INTEL_USERCOPY=y
67 CONFIG_X86_USE_PPRO_CHECKSUM=y
68 # CONFIG_HUGETLB_PAGE is not set
69 CONFIG_SMP=y
70 # CONFIG_PREEMPT is not set
Understand?

Kurt


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OT Oh so very OT, the return of Skippy

2003-07-17 Thread Shawn Tayler
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 19:56:11 -0400 Keith Antoine
[EMAIL PROTECTED] professed:

 Nuff for now, yes Lonnie I know this should be in General sigh, wink !
 Big kiss to Kurt (Still breathing mate?), Shawn Taylor , How's Julia
 and Madison. Hi agin to all you other 'serfs' especially Pascal if he
 is still listening 

Hey Skippy!

Everyone is doing fine up here.  Madison is on the threshold of crawling
and is babbling away all of the time now.  In fact she should be waking
up any minute, I have the morning shift.  I'll forward a pic or 2 to you
offlist.

Welcome back!

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Re: Arggggg ... Patching driving me nuts!!!!

2003-07-17 Thread Ben Duncan
Ok Kurt . fill me in here.

At Patch file is that which is the difference of org compared to new.
The output of that is:
-org stuff not on new
and
+new stuff not on org
With the @@ stuff being
@@ -org_line,count +new_line,count @@
where  -  count is equal to all the matching lines INCLUDING the
- (minus) prefixed lines in the org file, but less the + (plus) prefixed lines.
The  +  count is equal to the number of lines  in the New file
including the + (plus) prefixed lines, but less the - prefixed lines
The patch procedure is NORMALLY run against the org file to update the
org file to what the patch requires subtracting out the minus and adding in the
pluses.
I hope this is correct.

Oh man, I am gonna need a drink after thinking on this 

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Re: Shane B. did it !!

2003-07-17 Thread Harry Giles
On Thu July 17 2003 07:56 pm, Keith Antoine wrote:
 Got a call this afternoon asking whether I was alive or not; as I was
 unsure at the time I went and looked, sure enough I was there.

snip

Glad to see you are OK!  Don't do that again.  You had us mothers worried!

8-)

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Re: Arggggg ... Patching driving me nuts!!!!

2003-07-17 Thread Net Llama!
On 07/17/03 05:44, Ben Duncan wrote:

Thanks Kurt  still pretty foggy, but the Sun IS starting to lift on it.

Anyway, When the output of the DIFF is run in a patch routine,
Do the Minuses get taken away and the Pluses added to the
routine being patched ?
I can field this one.  The plusses  minuses are there for 'patch' to know 
what gets added  removed.  They're instructional, and should not appear in 
the file that is being patched.

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Re: Shane B. did it !!

2003-07-17 Thread Federico Voges
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Hey!

On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 19:56:11 -0400, Keith Antoine wrote:

Got a call this afternoon asking whether I was alive or not; as I was unsure 
at the time I went and looked, sure enough I was there. So Shane asked me why 
I disappeared, that there were some users that were asking what happened to 
me ? I was sure that I would not be missed afer mostly lurking.


Glad to read you again. You had more that one worried. Do that again,
and you'll probably get not a phone call but someone knocking on your
door :)

About the age issue, don't worry. I know young people that can't do
half the stuff you do ;)

Bye!
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Re: File and Print Proof of Concept Competition

2003-07-17 Thread Matthew Carpenter
Thanks for this information, Gary!  That's good to know.  I'll have to snag
the source and try it out.  

What I'm most concerned with at this point is NOT having to touch the Linux
box (or access it as a guru would).  More specifically, it is important that
we not have to create the user id's on the Linux box, that access is somehow
granted to the filesystem simply by granting rights in the AD.  It's ok if the
rights themselves are assigned at the filesystem level, so long as we can put
together a Windows-user friendly method of managing them.  There are about
200-300 LAN Admins who will need to be able to do this without too much
retraining.

Thanks!
Matt



On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 04:01:34 -0700 (PDT)
Gary Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 --- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I was chosen as part of the Linux/Samba team and I'd
  like to make sure our POC
  solution does the technology justice.  I am a firm
  Open Source evangelist, so
  my reasons are many and varied.
  
  The solution which seems most palatible is
  Distributed Samba, using a central
  directory for administration of authentication and
  rights.  While I would
  ordinarily choose OpenLDAP, the company has a strong
  push for AD and a large
  dependence upon eDirectory currently, so we would
  like to use one of these
  directory services for said administration.
  
 
 Matthew,
 
 Samba version 3 has made great strides in this area.
 Version 3 is now in its second beta, and the
 developers expect it to be finalized in August.
 
 From the Samba team's description of version 3:
 
 Major new features:
 ---
 
 1)  Active Directory support.  Samba 3.0 is now able
 to  
 to join a ADS realm as a member server and
 authenticate 
 users using LDAP/Kerberos.
 
 2)  Unicode support. Samba will now negotiate UNICODE
 on the wire and
 internally there is now a much better
 infrastructure for multi-byte
 and UNICODE character sets.
 
 3)  New authentication system. The internal
 authentication system has
 been almost completely rewritten. Most of the
 changes are internal,
 but the new auth system is also very configurable.
 
 4)  New filename mangling system. The filename
 mangling system has been
 completely rewritten. An internal database now
 stores mangling maps
 persistently. This needs lots of testing.
 
 5)  A new net command has been added. It is somewhat
 similar to 
 the net command in windows. Eventually we plan
 to replace 
 numerous other utilities (such as smbpasswd) with
 subcommands 
 in net.
 
 6)  Samba now negotiates NT-style status32 codes on
 the wire. This
 improves error handling a lot.
 
 7)  Better Windows 2000/XP/2003 printing support
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 printer attributes in active directory.
 
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Re: Shane B. did it !!

2003-07-17 Thread Tony Alfrey
On Thursday 17 July 2003 07:48 am, Federico Voges wrote:
snip

 Glad to read you again. You had more that one worried. Do that
 again, and you'll probably get not a phone call but someone knocking
 on your door :)

Ah, a good idea!  I vote that we all go on vacation and stay at his 
house.  Then we'll find out if he's really still got Windoze on his 
box.
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Re: MS wins Homeland Security Bid!!

2003-07-17 Thread Leon Goldstein


Mathew Carpenter wrote:

Suckers!!!


Right hand doesn't know (or care) what the left hand is doing?
Take a look at the August issue of Linux Journal and the article about
the NSA's security enhanced Linux.
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Skippy!!!

2003-07-17 Thread Matthew Carpenter
Hey Keith!

You were indeed missed.  Welcome back!  Someone's presence on the list can't
depend upon how much they contribute, or most of us would be unsubbing (I'm
still here!)  You add value regardless of what kernel you choose to play with.

Thanks for letting us know you're still there.  Hope to hear more from you. 
General list would probably be graced to hear what's up in your life the last
several months!

Matt
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ADMIN: potential down-time next week

2003-07-17 Thread Douglas J Hunley
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Well, the family is all taking off for the little one's nationals dance 
competition, so the week of July 21 - 25 I have the house to myself. As such, 
I expect to have lots of free time to complete various projects that have 
been sitting around. The first is rebuilding the mothership. Thanks to the 
generousness of the Llama, I've got an extra server to use to build the new 
box. The new box will be also (when completed) be going to downtown Columbus, 
where it will be hosted in a co-location facility. I'm letting te cat out the 
bad here, but that the hell. As such, whenever the box moves downtown, there 
mght be periods where various services are unavailable as I move them from 
the old box in my basement to the new box downtime. You've been warned. :)
 Thanks.

Maybe when all is said and done and the new box is 100% functional, I'll go 
walk-about with Skippy ;) (welcome back mate)
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Re: Shane B. did it !!

2003-07-17 Thread Keith Antoine
On Thursday 17 July 2003 09:08 am, Jack Berger wrote:
 Keith, Good to hear your are ok. I think you've earned the right to do what
 ever you want at this point in life. If lurking is it, then do it. Best
 wishes,
 -jhb-

Jack, it was getting frustrating, in that I used to be able to help. Now I 
just look and think yes I know the answer to that but I cannot recall what it 
was.

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Re: Shane B. did it !!

2003-07-17 Thread Keith Antoine
On Thursday 17 July 2003 11:34 am, Tony Alfrey wrote:
 On Thursday 17 July 2003 07:48 am, Federico Voges wrote:
 snip

  Glad to read you again. You had more that one worried. Do that
  again, and you'll probably get not a phone call but someone knocking
  on your door :)

 Ah, a good idea!  I vote that we all go on vacation and stay at his
 house.  Then we'll find out if he's really still got Windoze on his
 box.
 snip

How the hell did you know that ?? Still need it for my dvd authoring etc.
Have the drives fallen in price in the US too ? We pay around $370AUD
and disks about $2.50 (2x). Our dollar is worth 0.654 just now was 0.685
about a week ago.

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Re: Shane B. did it !!

2003-07-17 Thread Net Llama!
On 07/18/03 04:43, Keith Antoine wrote:
How the hell did you know that ?? Still need it for my dvd authoring etc.
Have the drives fallen in price in the US too ? We pay around $370AUD
and disks about $2.50 (2x). Our dollar is worth 0.654 just now was 0.685
about a week ago.
They're starting at about US$175 now:
http://www.pricewatch.com/1/210/5476-3.htm
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Finding Screen Resolution

2003-07-17 Thread Condon Thomas A KPWA

Folks,

I've got two laptops running the same piece of software, but they show the
output GUI window differently.  So I put in some statements to debug why and
they come up with different numbers of pixels for the size of text (that is
the same).  The only reason I can figure for this is a screen resolution
issue.

Is there an easy way to check what screen resolution is being used?


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Re: Shane B. did it !!

2003-07-17 Thread Keith Antoine
On Thursday 17 July 2003 08:22 am, Tony Alfrey wrote:
 On Thursday 17 July 2003 04:56 pm, Keith Antoine wrote:
  Got a call this afternoon asking whether I was alive or not; as I was
  unsure at the time I went and looked, sure enough I was there. So
  Shane asked me why I disappeared, that there were some users that
  were asking what happened to me ? I was sure that I would not be
  missed afer mostly lurking.

 Jeeze, we thought you'd gotten eaten by one of those Great Barrier Reef
 sharks or something.  Good to see you're back!
 snip

No do not see many, only when they get iunto a feeding frenzy at pilchard 
schooling time. Mostly Whales at the moment.

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Re: Shane B. did it !!

2003-07-17 Thread Keith Antoine
On Thursday 17 July 2003 09:41 am, Harry Giles wrote:
 On Thu July 17 2003 07:56 pm, Keith Antoine wrote:
  Got a call this afternoon asking whether I was alive or not; as I was
  unsure at the time I went and looked, sure enough I was there.

 snip

 Glad to see you are OK!  Don't do that again.  You had us mothers worried!

 8-)

 Harry G

Was totally unaware that ony of you on this list had mothers.

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Re: Shane B. did it !!

2003-07-17 Thread Keith Antoine
On Thursday 17 July 2003 08:29 am, David A. Bandel wrote:
 On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 19:56:11 -0400
 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Anyway I am flattered that anyone was interested enough to ask where
  the 'thong' was and was he ok. It was a set of circumstances that took
  me offline.

I was totally flattered and amazed, at receiving such a reasonable Bandel
missel. I am printing this out and pasting to my car window also copy to my 
scrapbook. I will then refer to this when I next get told what I said was BS 
:-)

 Hope whatever it was, it didn't hurt too much ;-)  -- BTW, what was her
 name?

To keep the wife quiet, NO; She is standing behind me! But seriously I have 
lost my instruction sheet, most frustrating not knowing what to do next, so I 
just lurk :). Last birthday I got a balloon and a bag of plaster of paris, 
just to keep my end up.

SNIP...

  Oh, yes thanks for going to the trouble Shane. Sheesh now i'll have a
  big mail box again.

 Why?  Did you sub to LKML too?

Actually I got into the lindows forum by mistake, that really threw me.

 Ciao,

 David A. Bandel

Thanks David, good job we all know each other grin

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Re: Shane B. did it !!

2003-07-17 Thread Keith Antoine
On Thursday 17 July 2003 10:48 am, Federico Voges wrote:

 Glad to read you again. You had more that one worried. Do that again,
 and you'll probably get not a phone call but someone knocking on your
 door :)

Can't do that, we do not have any doors in the cave we live in. Ask Shawn 
Taylor.

 About the age issue, don't worry. I know young people that can't do
 half the stuff you do ;)

But they seem to make a hell of a mess/trouble trying these days.

To save myself any more problems I will go to General later and type in my 
romancesover the past few months grin

 Bye!
 Federico Voges
 Socio gerente

 Intrasoft
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Re: ADMIN: potential down-time next week

2003-07-17 Thread Keith Antoine
On Thursday 17 July 2003 03:33 pm, Douglas J Hunley wrote:

 Maybe when all is said and done and the new box is 100% functional, I'll go
 walk-about with Skippy ;) (welcome back mate)

That will be fine as i need someone of my age to hold my 
hand. Left yourself wide open there.

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Re: File and Print Proof of Concept Competition

2003-07-17 Thread Gary Wilson

--- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks for this information, Gary!  That's good to
 know.  I'll have to snag
 the source and try it out.  
 

yes, this stuff is finally working in version 3. Beta
3 was released today. It is expected to be the last
beta for version 3.

 What I'm most concerned with at this point is NOT
 having to touch the Linux
 box (or access it as a guru would).  More
 specifically, it is important that
 we not have to create the user id's on the Linux
 box, that access is somehow
 granted to the filesystem simply by granting rights
 in the AD.  It's ok if the
 rights themselves are assigned at the filesystem
 level, so long as we can put
 together a Windows-user friendly method of managing
 them.  There are about
 200-300 LAN Admins who will need to be able to do
 this without too much
 retraining.
 

You should be able to do that. Read the Samba docs on
AD, LDAP and Winbind.

here's the updated samba docs, not available in any
book:
http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection.html

Gary

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Re: Finding Screen Resolution

2003-07-17 Thread Net Llama!
On 07/17/03 15:02, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote:

Folks,

I've got two laptops running the same piece of software, but they show the
output GUI window differently.  So I put in some statements to debug why and
they come up with different numbers of pixels for the size of text (that is
the same).  The only reason I can figure for this is a screen resolution
issue.
Could be a different font.

Is there an easy way to check what screen resolution is being used?
/var/log/XFree86.0.log

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Re: Shane B. did it !!

2003-07-17 Thread Tony Alfrey
On Friday 18 July 2003 04:43 am, Keith Antoine wrote:
 On Thursday 17 July 2003 11:34 am, Tony Alfrey wrote:
  On Thursday 17 July 2003 07:48 am, Federico Voges wrote:
  snip
 
   Glad to read you again. You had more that one worried. Do that
   again, and you'll probably get not a phone call but someone
   knocking on your door :)
 
  Ah, a good idea!  I vote that we all go on vacation and stay at his
  house.  Then we'll find out if he's really still got Windoze on his
  box.
  snip

 How the hell did you know that ?? Still need it for my dvd authoring
 etc. Have the drives fallen in price in the US too ? We pay around
 $370AUD and disks about $2.50 (2x). Our dollar is worth 0.654 just
 now was 0.685 about a week ago.

I have a psychic kangaroo in the backyard.
Drives in the US are cheaper, I think even after you factor in the 
exchange rate.

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RE: Finding Screen Resolution

2003-07-17 Thread Condon Thomas A KPWA
Net Llama! wrote:
 I've got two laptops running the same piece of software, but they
 show the output GUI window differently.  So I put in some statements
 to debug why and they come up with different numbers of pixels for
 the size of text (that is the same).  The only reason I can figure
 for this is a screen resolution issue.
 
 Could be a different font.

The Java code sets the font to be Courier 14 point in both cases.  They look
identical in size as displayed.

 Is there an easy way to check what screen resolution is being used?
 
 /var/log/XFree86.0.log

Except in RedHat (on one machine).  I found it in the Gentoo installed on
the other.  Thanks.

Both displays are now set to 1024x768.  One shows as 75x75 dpi.  I haven't
found that information on the other.


In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord,

Tom  :-})

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Re: Finding Screen Resolution

2003-07-17 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Condon Thomas A KPWA:
 
 Folks,
 
 I've got two laptops running the same piece of software, but they show the
 output GUI window differently.  So I put in some statements to debug why and
 they come up with different numbers of pixels for the size of text (that is
 the same).  The only reason I can figure for this is a screen resolution
 issue.

The dimensions of the screen determine the DPI used to draw the screen:

$ xdpyinfo | egrep 'resol|dimen'
  dimensions:1280x1024 pixels (339x271 millimeters)
  resolution:96x96 dots per inch

The physical dimensions are 339x271mm; the logical dimensions are
1280x1024 pixels, which gives an actual screen resolution of 96x96dpi,

Kurt
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Re: Shane B. did it !!

2003-07-17 Thread Bob Hemus
Keith Antoine wrote:

On Thursday 17 July 2003 09:41 am, Harry Giles wrote:

On Thu July 17 2003 07:56 pm, Keith Antoine wrote:

Got a call this afternoon asking whether I was alive or not; as I was
unsure at the time I went and looked, sure enough I was there.
snip

Glad to see you are OK!  Don't do that again.  You had us mothers worried!

8-)

Harry G

Was totally unaware that ony of you on this list had mothers.

Gee, Keith, I thought the question was fathers?
Bob
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Re: Finding Screen Resolution

2003-07-17 Thread Net Llama!
On 07/17/03 18:14, Kurt Wall wrote:

Quoth Condon Thomas A KPWA:

Folks,

I've got two laptops running the same piece of software, but they show the
output GUI window differently.  So I put in some statements to debug why and
they come up with different numbers of pixels for the size of text (that is
the same).  The only reason I can figure for this is a screen resolution
issue.


The dimensions of the screen determine the DPI used to draw the screen:

$ xdpyinfo | egrep 'resol|dimen'
  dimensions:1280x1024 pixels (339x271 millimeters)
  resolution:96x96 dots per inch
The physical dimensions are 339x271mm; the logical dimensions are
1280x1024 pixels, which gives an actual screen resolution of 96x96dpi,
hrmmm, this got me wondering.  on one of my boxes i have:
xdpyinfo | egrep 'resol|dimen'
  dimensions:1600x1200 pixels (383x290 millimeters)
  resolution:106x105 dots per inch
is it normal for the 'resolution' to be rectangular, rather than square?

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Re: Shane B. did it !!

2003-07-17 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Bob Hemus:
 Keith Antoine wrote:
 
 Was totally unaware that ony of you on this list had mothers.
 
 Gee, Keith, I thought the question was fathers?

Ouch. 

Kurt
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Re: Finding Screen Resolution

2003-07-17 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Net Llama!:
 On 07/17/03 18:14, Kurt Wall wrote:
 
 The dimensions of the screen determine the DPI used to draw the screen:
 
 $ xdpyinfo | egrep 'resol|dimen'
   dimensions:1280x1024 pixels (339x271 millimeters)
   resolution:96x96 dots per inch
 
 The physical dimensions are 339x271mm; the logical dimensions are
 1280x1024 pixels, which gives an actual screen resolution of 96x96dpi,
 
 hrmmm, this got me wondering.  on one of my boxes i have:
 xdpyinfo | egrep 'resol|dimen'
   dimensions:1600x1200 pixels (383x290 millimeters)
   resolution:106x105 dots per inch
 
 is it normal for the 'resolution' to be rectangular, rather than square?

Beats hell outta me. You can force whatever resolution you want using
-dpi with X:

XFree86 -dpi N,

where N is the screen resolution in dots-per-inch.

Kurt
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Re: Shane B. did it !!

2003-07-17 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Keith Antoine:
 Got a call this afternoon asking whether I was alive or not; as I was unsure 
 at the time I went and looked, sure enough I was there. So Shane asked me why 
 I disappeared, that there were some users that were asking what happened to 
 me ? I was sure that I would not be missed afer mostly lurking.

Surprise! Glad you're back.

 Anyway I am flattered that anyone was interested enough to ask where the 
 'thong' was and was he ok. It was a set of circumstances that took me 
 offline.

Yep, I was worried. Spent an hour or so looking for an obit last
night, in fact. Happily, I'm pleased to say I didn't find one for
you. ;-)

 days and I also forget simple Cline commands. As most know I am 70+ and try
 as I might learning is now taking a great deal of effort. Still do builds and 
 installs, but no networking anymore, or complicated stuff.

We all know that 70 in metric is rather less in the imperial system we
use here in the States.

 Nuff for now, yes Lonnie I know this should be in General sigh, wink ! Big 
 kiss to Kurt (Still breathing mate?), Shawn Taylor , How's Julia and Madison. 

Just barely, but only between periods of not breathing.

 Hi agin to all you other 'serfs' especially Pascal if he is still listening 
 
 
 Oh, yes thanks for going to the trouble Shane. Sheesh now i'll have a big mail 
 box again.

I'm glad you said mailbox...

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[OT] welcome back skippy!

2003-07-17 Thread Susan Macchia
I have to add that I am glad to see you back, even in a lurking capacity.  I
mostly lurk these days and contribute when I have something to teach, ask when
I need help (and *always* get it - thanks!).  So you are not alone in that. 
And, while I am not really old, but not really young either, I sometimes have
to say, how did I do that? I *know* I should know!  It's on the edge of my
brain somewhere!.  What helps me is keeping a journal cuz then my brain
doesn't have to retain it all ;)

Anyway, glad to see you around in whatever capacity.

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Re: Shane B. did it !!

2003-07-17 Thread Shawn Tayler
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:34:17 -0700 Tony Alfrey
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  Glad to read you again. You had more that one worried. Do that
  again, and you'll probably get not a phone call but someone knocking
  on your door :)
 
 Ah, a good idea!  I vote that we all go on vacation and stay at his 
 house.  Then we'll find out if he's really still got Windoze on his 
 box.
 snip

I can testify that he does not.

Shawn
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Re: Shane B. did it !!

2003-07-17 Thread Shawn Tayler


Don't let him fool you.  He's got a right nice place there

On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 08:24:09 -0400 Keith Antoine
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 On Thursday 17 July 2003 10:48 am, Federico Voges wrote:
 
  Glad to read you again. You had more that one worried. Do that
  again, and you'll probably get not a phone call but someone knocking
  on your door :)
 
 Can't do that, we do not have any doors in the cave we live in. Ask
 Shawn Taylor.
 
  About the age issue, don't worry. I know young people that can't do
  half the stuff you do ;)
 
 But they seem to make a hell of a mess/trouble trying these days.
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Re: Shane B. did it !!

2003-07-17 Thread Shawn Tayler
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 07:43:04 -0400 Keith Antoine
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 How the hell did you know that ?? Still need it for my dvd authoring
 etc. Have the drives fallen in price in the US too ? We pay around
 $370AUD and disks about $2.50 (2x). Our dollar is worth 0.654 just now
 was 0.685 about a week ago.

Drat,  Thought I had it all covered
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Re: Shane B. did it !!

2003-07-17 Thread Rick Sivernell
Skippy

   How are you, hope your taking care of your self. Take care Mate.

GOOD going Shane

cheers

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