Re: Spam to Stop Spam

2003-11-03 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:00:54 -0500
Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Quoth Roger Oberholtzer:
  On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 00:03:16 -0500
  Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I'm not quite sure what to think about spam that wants to sell
   me some sort of spam blocking. That would be metaspam, yes?
   
   Grumble. Sigh. Wherez my pillz?
  
  I suspect the irony is lost on those sending these messages as well. If
  I buy this sort of thing, I will never see their messages. Unless they
  are tricky and their own slip through...
 
 No, surely, they wouldn't do something like *that*?

My reaction exactly. But you gotta trust someone in these spam-filled
days, no?

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Re: KDE Lockups

2003-11-03 Thread Tim Wunder
On 11/3/2003 12:10 AM, I believe that Shawn Tayler wrote:
Hi Guys,

I have an annoying problem that I've run out of ideas on.  I have an
updated Slackware 8.1 install, not Slack 9.1-Current that KDE keeps locking
up on.  Netscape, Opera, ver 6 and 7, Acroread, Gimp, have all locked it up
tught on numerous occasions.  There's nothing in any of the logs in
/var/log.
Is there something else I should check?  Should I consider building KDE
from source?
Might be hardware error.
Run memtest86 on your RAM.
FWIW, I had frequent lockups during the early summer on my machine. 
Ended up buying a new power supply.
HTH,
Tim

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Re: backup windows partition (fat)

2003-11-03 Thread Collins Richey
On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 20:39:20 -0800 Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Collins Richey wrote:
  Is there an easy way to backup a windows partition then restore it later
  without gimping anything that windows requires?
  
  I have a small hda (hda1 is a win98 partition, the rest is a swap and a
  linux partition).  My active linux systems are on hdb.
  
  I want to retain the win98 stuff (rest of hda is not needed) then replace
  hda with a much larger disk, restore the win98 stuff, redo grub, etc.  
  
  Booting without hda is no problem, since I have a grub boot disk.  
  
  I just want to avoid the pain of reinstalling win98 (mucho yucky, worse than
  configuring sendmail).
  
 try and get a copy of ghost. Then you can move the wintendo partition 
 over to the new drive. Less hassle then any back-up scheme.
 

I'm not familiar with ghost.  Does this mean create a fat partition on the other
drive and then copy, or does ghost do that some other way?  Do the from/to
partitions need to be identical size?

 On another note, I just put a new system together and starting the 
 gentoo install as I type. For some reason I could not get my scsi cdrom 
 to boot the live cd. We got arround it and am now waiting for the 
 emerge system to complete. I thought that this wasn't so bad on an AMD 
 750 Athlon but this 1.8 G Athlon sure seems snappy.
 

Yeah, I'm on the same CPU, and it works great.

-- 
Collins Richey - Denver Area
if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the 
worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for.


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Re: KDE Lockups

2003-11-03 Thread Shawn Tayler
On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 07:56:58 -0500 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
professed:

 Might be hardware error.
 Run memtest86 on your RAM.
 FWIW, I had frequent lockups during the early summer on my machine. 
 Ended up buying a new power supply.
 HTH,
 Tim

, Thanks Tim,

Good suggestion
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Re: backup windows partition (fat)

2003-11-03 Thread Mike Reinehr
Rather than purchase commercial software, why not just use tar, cp, dd, or 
partimage? I'm a little rusty on my DOS, but I seem to remember there are a 
couple of hidden system files that have to go back into a certain place in 
the partition (io.sys, msdos.sys?) but you should be able to get around that 
by doing a system format, before restoring the files.

mike

On Sunday 02 November 2003 10:39 pm, you wrote:
 Collins Richey wrote:
  Is there an easy way to backup a windows partition then restore it later
  without gimping anything that windows requires?
 
  I have a small hda (hda1 is a win98 partition, the rest is a swap and a
  linux partition).  My active linux systems are on hdb.
 
  I want to retain the win98 stuff (rest of hda is not needed) then replace
  hda with a much larger disk, restore the win98 stuff, redo grub, etc.
 
  Booting without hda is no problem, since I have a grub boot disk.
 
  I just want to avoid the pain of reinstalling win98 (mucho yucky, worse
  than configuring sendmail).

 try and get a copy of ghost. Then you can move the wintendo partition
 over to the new drive. Less hassle then any back-up scheme.

 On another note, I just put a new system together and starting the
 gentoo install as I type. For some reason I could not get my scsi cdrom
 to boot the live cd. We got arround it and am now waiting for the
 emerge system to complete. I thought that this wasn't so bad on an AMD
 750 Athlon but this 1.8 G Athlon sure seems snappy.

 Cheers

-- 
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More laws, less justice. -- Marcus Tullius Ciceroca, 42 BC

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Re: backup windows partition (fat)

2003-11-03 Thread Ken Moffat
Mike Reinehr wrote:

Rather than purchase commercial software, why not just use tar, cp, dd, or 
partimage? 



 

Partimage will back up to a file, and restore a partition. Don't know 
about 'fat' partition support. I assume it's in there.

http://www.sysresccd.org/systools.en.php
looks like a nice set of tools that might help.
--
Ken


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Re: backup windows partition (fat)

2003-11-03 Thread Ted Ozolins
Ken Moffat wrote:
Mike Reinehr wrote:

Rather than purchase commercial software, why not just use tar, cp, 
dd, or partimage?

 

Partimage will back up to a file, and restore a partition. Don't know 
about 'fat' partition support. I assume it's in there.

http://www.sysresccd.org/systools.en.php
looks like a nice set of tools that might help.
I'm not sure but if you setup the partition to copy to then tar the old 
partition over to the new one, that would get all the files over to the 
new drive. Before you do that make a recovery (or startup floppy) in 
win98. After using tar then you can move the new drive to hda position, 
boot from the floppy and then sys c: That would makr your C:\ bootable 
(in win98). I've never done this but I cant see why it wouldn't work. On 
the startup wintendo floppy there is format and fdisk.  I imagine that 
you will be partitioning the new drive and formatting whi8le still 
running on the old drive. The rest should go smoothly.

--
Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO)
Westbank, B. C.
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Re: KDE Lockups

2003-11-03 Thread Chong Yu Meng
What is your motherboard ? Is it an Abit BP6 ? That'll cause mysterious 
lockups because of an under-rated capacitor. Also, using AGP 2x cards on 
motherboards that do not support them will do this to you too.

Regards,
pascal chong
Shawn Tayler wrote:

On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 07:56:58 -0500 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
professed:
 

Might be hardware error.
Run memtest86 on your RAM.
FWIW, I had frequent lockups during the early summer on my machine. 
Ended up buying a new power supply.
HTH,
Tim
   

, Thanks Tim,

Good suggestion
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[Fwd: Red Hat Linux end-of-life update and transition planning]

2003-11-03 Thread Michael Hipp
Just FYI.

Michael

 Original Message 
Subject: Red Hat Linux end-of-life update and transition planning
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 10:29:47 -0500
From: Red Hat Network [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dear mhipp,

Thank you for being a Red Hat Network customer.

This e-mail provides you with important information about the upcoming
discontinuation of Red Hat Linux, and resources to assist you with your
migration to another Red Hat solution.
As previously communicated, Red Hat will discontinue maintenance and
errata support for Red Hat Linux 7.1, 7.2, 7.3 and 8.0 as of December
31, 2003. Red Hat will discontinue maintenance and errata support for
Red Hat Linux 9 as of April 30, 2004. Red Hat does not plan to release
another product in the Red Hat Linux line.
With the recent announcement of Red Hat Enterprise Linux v.3, you'll
find migrating to Enterprise Linux appealing.  We understand
that transitioning to another Red Hat solution requires careful planning
and implementation.  We have created a migration plan for Red Hat Network
customers to help make the transition as simple and seamless as
possible. Details:

If you purchase Red Hat Enterprise Linux WS or ES Basic before February
28, 2004, you will receive 50% off the price for two years.[*] (That's two
years for the price of one.)

In addition, we have created a Red Hat Linux Migration Resource Center
to address your migration planning and other questions, such as:
* What are best practices for implementing the migration to Red Hat
  Enterprise Linux?
* Are there other migration alternatives?

* How do I purchase Red Hat Enterprise Linux WS or ES Basic at the price
  above?
* What if my paid subscription to RHN extends past April 30, 2004?



Find out more about your migration options with product comparisons,
whitepapers and documentation at the Red Hat Linux Migration Resource
Center:
  http://www.redhat.com/solutions/migration/rhl/rhn

Or read the FAQ written especially for Red Hat Network customers:

  https://rhn.redhat.com/help/rhlmigrationfaq/

Sincerely,

Red Hat, Inc.

[*] Limit 10 units. Higher volume purchase inquiries should contact a
regional Red Hat sales representative. Contact numbers available at
http://www.redhat.com/solutions/migration/rhl/rhn
--the Red Hat Network Team



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FW: Red Hat Linux end-of-life update and transition planning

2003-11-03 Thread Mike McKinlay

Folks:
Well this sucks
  Mike
-Original Message-
From: Red Hat Network [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 7:26 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Red Hat Linux end-of-life update and transition planning



Dear mikemckinlay,

Thank you for being a Red Hat Network customer.

This e-mail provides you with important information about the upcoming
discontinuation of Red Hat Linux, and resources to assist you with your
migration to another Red Hat solution.

As previously communicated, Red Hat will discontinue maintenance and
errata support for Red Hat Linux 7.1, 7.2, 7.3 and 8.0 as of December 
31, 2003. Red Hat will discontinue maintenance and errata support for 
Red Hat Linux 9 as of April 30, 2004. Red Hat does not plan to release 
another product in the Red Hat Linux line.

With the recent announcement of Red Hat Enterprise Linux v.3, you'll
find migrating to Enterprise Linux appealing.  We understand 
that transitioning to another Red Hat solution requires careful planning 
and implementation.  We have created a migration plan for Red Hat Network 
customers to help make the transition as simple and seamless as 
possible. Details:


If you purchase Red Hat Enterprise Linux WS or ES Basic before February
28, 2004, you will receive 50% off the price for two years.[*] (That's two
years for the price of one.)


In addition, we have created a Red Hat Linux Migration Resource Center
to address your migration planning and other questions, such as:

* What are best practices for implementing the migration to Red Hat
  Enterprise Linux?

* Are there other migration alternatives?

* How do I purchase Red Hat Enterprise Linux WS or ES Basic at the price
  above?

* What if my paid subscription to RHN extends past April 30, 2004?



Find out more about your migration options with product comparisons,
whitepapers and documentation at the Red Hat Linux Migration Resource 
Center:

  http://www.redhat.com/solutions/migration/rhl/rhn


Or read the FAQ written especially for Red Hat Network customers:

  https://rhn.redhat.com/help/rhlmigrationfaq/
 
Sincerely,

Red Hat, Inc.


[*] Limit 10 units. Higher volume purchase inquiries should contact a
regional Red Hat sales representative. Contact numbers available at
http://www.redhat.com/solutions/migration/rhl/rhn

--the Red Hat Network Team

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  Your RHN login: mikemckinlay
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Re: [Fwd: Red Hat Linux end-of-life update and transition planning]

2003-11-03 Thread Susan Macchia
Well I thought so too when I got the message.  But a new project built from
Redhat 9 called Fedora is going to continue the stream (sponsored by RH). 
Since I've already got systems configured on that, I'm going to give it a try
and see how it goes...

Will keep you posted!  If it doesn't work out, I'll have to go with Slackware
or gentoo (in which case I'll be asking questions of you guys w/ respect to sys
admin - I've gotten lazy and used to the RH config tools.

Mike McKinlay wrote:
Folks:
Well this sucks
  Mike


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Re: [Fwd: Red Hat Linux end-of-life update and transition planning]

2003-11-03 Thread Michael Hipp
Susan Macchia wrote:
Well I thought so too when I got the message.  But a new project built from
Redhat 9 called Fedora is going to continue the stream (sponsored by RH). 
Since I've already got systems configured on that, I'm going to give it a try
and see how it goes...
My plan (at this moment anyway) is to use RH Enterprise WS for smallish 
servers and Fedora for workstations.

My biggest dilemma are those systems running 7.3 - 9 that will still 
need security updates for months/years to come. I'm not about to reload 
them anytime soon. Rumor is Fedora will supply security updates to take 
up the slack left by RH, but I haven't seen it confirmed.

I'm still trying to convince myself that this Balkanization of RHL is a 
good thing.

Michael

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RE: [Fwd: Red Hat Linux end-of-life update and transition planning]

2003-11-03 Thread Mike McKinlay
Folks here's the link for those that interest in this thread
   Mike



http://www.fedora.us/index-main.html



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael Hipp
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 5:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Red Hat Linux end-of-life update and transition
planning]


Susan Macchia wrote:
 Well I thought so too when I got the message.  But a new project built
from
 Redhat 9 called Fedora is going to continue the stream (sponsored by RH).
 Since I've already got systems configured on that, I'm going to give it a
try
 and see how it goes...

My plan (at this moment anyway) is to use RH Enterprise WS for smallish
servers and Fedora for workstations.

My biggest dilemma are those systems running 7.3 - 9 that will still
need security updates for months/years to come. I'm not about to reload
them anytime soon. Rumor is Fedora will supply security updates to take
up the slack left by RH, but I haven't seen it confirmed.

I'm still trying to convince myself that this Balkanization of RHL is a
good thing.

Michael

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Re: Spam to Stop Spam

2003-11-03 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Roger Oberholtzer:
 On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:00:54 -0500
 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  No, surely, they wouldn't do something like *that*?
 
 My reaction exactly. But you gotta trust someone in these spam-filled
 days, no?

True. Just not someone that sends spam.

Kurt
-- 
In those days he was wiser than he is now -- he used to frequently take
my advice.
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Re: Spam to Stop Spam

2003-11-03 Thread Bob Hemus
Bill Campbell wrote:

big snip

``I don't care how little your country is, you got a right to run it like
you want to.  When the big nations quit meddling, then the world will have
peace.''
   Will Rogers
Oh my!  That is lovely
Bob
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Question

2003-11-03 Thread Rick Sivernell
lIST

  I have a Dell Latitude cpx laptop. I have a pcmcia lan card now running perfectly, 
but a school they have setup a wireless system. It will auto on systems, my question 
is leave the lan pcmcia at home and use the wireless at school, what do I need to do 
to make this work? Can I do this, I assume so. I can get a new netgear wireless for 
$70.00, is this too much?

cheers

Rick Sivernell
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972 306-2296
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Star Office 7

2003-11-03 Thread Joel Hammer
I just bought SO 7 from the lindows warehouse. At $30 bucks I figured
why not, SO6 works well.  An immediate, and welcome difference, is
that it starts up much faster. This is actually important for reading
documents on the internet. And, wonder of wonders, it doesn't start a
second instance of itself when you click on two documents in the file
browser to edit. That was a pain in SO6. And it has a macro recorder as
well as an editor. Now, this is progress.

Has anyone used SO7? Any impressions? Tips?

Thanks,

Joel



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Wonders of vim: Multiple file editing

2003-11-03 Thread Joel Hammer
Just to share the joy of vim, which is the vi loaded with many distros.

I had to edit about 30 documents, converted from .doc via staroffice to
text files. StarOffice did the conversion perfectly. Each had a similar
format as .doc files, and I needed to make changes in the newly created
text files so that they could be converted into html files of a particular
format. In the past, I had to edit each file individually, or run sed
scripts from the command line, which always involved a big hassle in
saving the new file to a different name, then moving them back again.

Now, I find that the command vi *.txt loads all 30 documents at once.

There are a few commands for handling multiple files at one time which we
all should know:
buf! BufferID 
switches to the buffer desired. You can use the buffer number or the
first, unique part of the file name.
:buf! MyFi or
:buf! 2
:ls   lists them all
:bufdo!   runs a command on all of them, for example:
:bufdo! 1,$ ! sed s/PATTERN/REPLACE/
If you have a complicated sed script:
:bufdo! 1,$ ! sed -f script

This is really magic.

If you mess up, a very likely occurrence:
:bufdo! u
changes everything back.

You can try out the sed command or script on just one document, then use the 
:bufdo! command to run it against them all.

:wall saves everything.

:help buffers is very useful.
Navigate all the links in help with CNTRL-] 

Enjoy.

Joel
 
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