Re: One reason why I should have a Linux laptop
On Thursday 20 November 2003 08:39 am, Shawn Tayler wrote: On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:36:20 -0800 (PST) Keith Morse [EMAIL PROTECTED] professed: Because the F'ing vendors of those devices only make their config/management tools able to run under windows and the bulk of your staff are thoroughly perplexed as to the nature and reason for a command line. I know what you mean. Our new comm system need you to run a DOS based serial app to configure parts of the system while using a custom Telnet/FTP/something IP Winblows app for other configs at the same time. Win2K is fairly inept at DOS stuff Makes it interesting.. This may be of help in **some** cases: Particularly in cases where a CLI communications program or terminal emulation is involved, I would be tempted to give kermit a try. I have to dial into various vendor's servers for telnetting and/or transferring files. Many of them only offer tech support for their own apps or hyperterminal. I was motivated to try new methods because the transfers were exceeding the error limit fairly frequently. I wasn't sure whether the problem was the software, the phone lines (rural area) or a combination of both. The vendors and phone company, however, were sure it was someone else's problem. I've found that kermit is at the base of many communication applications. After learning how to dial a modem in kermit, I was able to connect and conduct my business successfully in more than half the cases. In all the cases where I am able to use kermit by itself, my transmissions have had few or no (none, zip, zero) errors. On a side note, the online documentation states that you can run kermit over ssh using command line options. Kermit appears to be quite extensive in abilities. Once again, I find myself with much to learn. Andrew Gould ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HD question
On Thursday 20 November 2003 04:21 pm, Rick Sivernell wrote: Lonnie You do have a point here, I did try a 2nd hd on the laptop, it worked as it should, it was a small drive. The original will not boot, but fdisk can read the partition. grub will start then hang. Can not put this drive in to older laptop as it has a 1 g limit. I would like to test it on a machine that could boot it up. I just have no means to perform this. Any other suggestions here is appreciated, I do not want to buy any thing I do not have to. It is a 12 g hard drive, Fitsitu I beleive. cheers 2.5 to 3.5 HDD adapter kits are available to connect laptop hard drives to desktop PC's. If you depend upon laptops, it might not be a bad thing to keep on hand. IIRC, I saw one for about $10. Andrew Gould ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HD question
On Thursday 20 November 2003 09:22 pm, Rick Sivernell wrote: Lonnie I do not know if it is under warrenty. I will check that, should have already thunk it, just getting like skippy hereg, just wish I was just as pretty. no reply required. David Andrew will also check that out, I do have a couple of small older 2.5s here. Many thanks, Doggnabbit, I like this list. cheers Here's a link to Outpost.com's (Frye's Electronics) adapter for $6.99: http://shop4.outpost.com/product/2066996 Maybe one of the Frye's in the Dallas area will carry it. (Stopping at the Frye's at Interstate 20 and Matlock adds at least 60-90 minutes to my travel time between Longview and San Angelo.) Andrew Gould ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Do you Rekall?
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 03:26 pm, David A. Bandel wrote: On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:47:51 -0600 Andrew L. Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 19 November 2003 10:39 am, Matthew Carpenter wrote: What is the key piece of MSOffice which is not readily available as Open Source? [snip] To say that a front-end for database administration or queries is a replacement for MS Access is to say that you haven't used all of the facets of MS Access: [snip Access plug] All the above said, Access is a _toy_. If you need a database (of more than about 100 rows) you really need a SQL database like PostgreSQL. It does all you mentioned and more. It also supports multiple users (hundreds of simultaneous selects), supports transactions, foreign keys, outer joins, and is fast (particularly searches on indexed columns). It is also ACID. I'm putting together yet another database and front end for a gov't agency here. They'll use a web browser. I'm still writing the Perl script to provide the various queries and inserts/updates. But it will get thousands of entries per year. If you want to see a _good_ web - postgresql app, try SQL-Ledger (http://www.sql-ledger.com/). Besides, OO supports ODBC queries of PostgreSQL. Poorly documented, yes. But I have done it (once, and maybe never again; psql is a _lot_ easier, especially if views are properly constructed.) Ciao, David A. Bandel David, Your points are good. You're right, MS Access is not comparable to a **real** database server. I use PostgreSQL on the back-end for the reasons you mentioned. Access has, however, great utility as a flexible front-end for applications or fast, complex, adhoc analysis. Existing query front-ends in Linux usually fail the complexity criteria. Of course, I may be the whining exception. I didn't mean to be plugging MS Access -- I truly want a replacement. MS Access and tax software are the 2 items that will keep a copy of Window on my computer. (I encountered memory limit problems with Access via Crossover Office on a PC with 1.5GB RAM.) Okay, I'll get off my soap box now. Andrew Gould ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: TextMaker
On Saturday 15 November 2003 12:16 am, Kurt Wall wrote: Has anyone received their TextMaker $11.11 download instructions yet? I've not seen mine... Kurt I received mine about 44 hours after I received the Thank You email. The website said it usually takes a day; but at $11.11, I'm sure they're swamped. I also bought the Handheld PC (WinCE) version. I haven't installed it yet; but the website states that no conversion is necessary to use files on both the desktop and PDA, which means you don't have to sync before sending someone a file. Andrew Gould ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: gentoo news
On Friday 14 November 2003 07:03 am, Collins Richey wrote: On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:06:32 -0500 Bruce Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 13 November 2003 22:58 pm, Collins Richey wrote: Gentoo for PowerPC G5 now available Posted on 11 November 2003 by pvdabeel We're proud to announce the availability of the Gentoo for PowerPC G5 32-bit LiveCD. ISOs are now available on our main OSU mirror. There he goes again...:-) old hackers never die, they just run gentoo. :-) 'Do not go gentoo into that night!' ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: way ot
On Friday 14 November 2003 08:19 am, Collins Richey wrote: I'm too much of an email/etc youngster to understand shortcuts like :-) and ;-) My google searches have produced no results. Where are these defined? Here's a list I found by searching for email and smiley on google: http://www.windweaver.com/emoticon.htm Have fun, Andrew Gould ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: way ot
On Friday 14 November 2003 08:54 am, Tim Wunder wrote: On 11/14/2003 9:19 AM, I believe that Collins Richey wrote: I'm too much of an email/etc youngster to understand shortcuts like :-) and ;-) My google searches have produced no results. Where are these defined? A google on emoticons found: http://www.randomhouse.com/features/davebarry/emoticon.html Having reviewed this list, I've decided that learning emoticons from Dave Barry is like taking cooking lessons from Hannibal Lectur -- they're both very good at what they do; but A search on Mozilla emoticons found http://www.gaztronics.net/howto/mozilla/mozilla.php#standout HTH, TIm ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: another warm fuzzy from M$
On Wednesday 12 November 2003 10:23 pm, Collins Richey wrote: Slashdot: Experiences w/ Drive Imaging Software? Microsoft supplies no method of backing up and restoring fully operational copies of Windows 2000 and Windows XP. Microsoft's advice is to reinstall the operating system and all programs every time you want to move to a new or backup computer. I read that twice before I realized they weren't joking. Makes you want to run out and buy an XP machine right now grin. Was the user restricting the discussion to backup software that comes with Windows? If not, Norton Ghost should do the trick. Also, for those who haven't looked at Ghost recently, Ghost 2003 supports ext2/3. You'll need to bootup from a Ghost floppy; but instructions for creating the floppy are included in the product. g4u (Ghost for Unix) is good; but doesn't support laptops. Andrew Gould ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SUSE Linux 9.0 Professional Update - night 1
On Wednesday 12 November 2003 02:56 pm, Bruce Marshall wrote: On Wednesday 12 November 2003 15:34 pm, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: Has anyone done an update to an existing 8.2 system? Or will I be in a bad mood tomorrow evening? I don't do updates anymore... just new installs but no one over on the SUSE list has had any real problems with an update. Most go just flawlessly and the others may have a niggle or two. How do the existing distros compare regarding upgrades of 1. the core system? 2. applications external to the core system? Andrew Gould ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SUSE Linux 9.0 Professional Update - night 1
On Thursday 13 November 2003 02:27 pm, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote: How do the existing distros compare regarding upgrades of 1. the core system? 2. applications external to the core system? SuSE has an online update utility (through YAST) that will check for updates to any program you have installed and download and include them. It does dependency checking, so if something major has changed you get everything needed to make the system work. I've used it regularly with no problems. OK, that isn't *quite* true. I didn't use it at first, then there was too large a list to do all at once so I had to manually select those I wanted from the list it provided and do the updates in three pieces. Other than that it is quite painless and hasn't ever caused me any problems (nothing broke). Works for both core and applications (if SuSE updates the package it gets an update for the online update). In Harmony's Way and In A Chord, Tom ;-}) To clarify: I'm wondering how the distributions compare as to upgrading from one release to the next, rather than updates to the current release. We've had one person state that SUSE's upgrade process hasn't worked well, historically. How about Mandrake and Slackware? RedHat's is a moot point; but what are Fedora's plans? I think Gentoo and Debian can upgrade themselves without release cd's; but how much breakage occurs in the process? Except for Dep's articles on upgrading SUSE, which were enough to keep me from trying (Thank you, Dep.), this isn't an issue that has gotten much press. Andrew Gould ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
SUSE Linux 9.0 Professional Update - night 1
I received the Update version SUSE 9.0 Professional yesterday and installed it last night. The first things I noted were: 1. No cool graphical representation of a math formula on the box or cover. (Aha! Already we see the corporate smothering of creativity!) 2. The DVD was bad. (Or do you need a special DVD reader for double-sided DVD's?) I could boot up from the DVD and start the installation; but the installation program could not find the applications. I had to install from the CDROM's. 3. I have a Linksys ethernet PCI card and a Cisco Aironet PCI card. The Cisco card was configured as wlan0. I had to configure the Linksys card to go nowhere (no cable is attached, no do not activate at boot up option seen in yast) and: mv /etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-wlan0 /etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-eth1 to establish wireless connectivity. 4. An evaluation CD of iAnywhere's (Sybase) SQL Anywhere Studio for Linux was included in the box. Andrew Gould ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SUSE Linux 9.0 Professional Update - night 1
On Wednesday 12 November 2003 03:03 pm, Terence McCarthy wrote: On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:42:39 -0600 Andrew L. Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. No cool graphical representation of a math formula on the box or cover. (Aha! Already we see the corporate smothering of creativity!) Do we? I forgot the wink. (I hope I'm not **that** cynical.) :-) 2. The DVD was bad. (Or do you need a special DVD reader for double-sided DVD's?) No. I could boot up from the DVD and start the installation; but the installation program could not find the applications. I had to install from the CDROM's. I had no problems at all with the DVD. 4. An evaluation CD of iAnywhere's (Sybase) SQL Anywhere Studio for Linux was included in the box. Yes, it was. I've yet to play with it. Terence ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Braindead Windows
On Tuesday 11 November 2003 10:36 am, Collins Richey wrote: On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:02:05 -0800 Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 10 November 2003 08:11 pm, Joel Hammer wrote: Yes, I have also found another use for windows. Politics. I have gotten, by default, the job of getting us up and going with digital photography in our pathology department. You have to experience it to believe it, but our IS department is trying to make my life as difficult as possible because I bought a computer from the digital camera company, not through IS. Our IS steals software and hardware from people who buy through them and not straight from the vendor. Seriously. And, of course, IS bids for hardware are slow and over priced. If I suggested linux, they would use that against me for sure and fight like tooth and nail all the way. We are talking seriously computer impaired but politically savvy people. They have to be politically savvy because they keep their jobs despite knowing nothing about computers. I consulted for a place once that, when I told IS I wanted to run linux on the in-house computer they gave me to use, basically threated to fire me. I literally had to hide the linux partition on the box. I'm not there anymore, and I'm sure the partition is still there. They probably can't figure out why the hard disk only appears to be half as big as it is supposed to be. Just another proof of the maxim: If you don't know sh*t, you will be put in charge of those who do. True, perhaps; but a little harsh. People fear failure; and most have learned that Unix is too hard. I remember, as I shopped for my first computer, being told that DOS was too hard for normal people; and that I would never use the full power of the new Mac-Plus. A few years later, as Windows 3.1 and 3.11 came out, I heard the word Unix; but always in the context that it was too hard. Somewhere along the way, the thought that the command line was too hard became an assumed truth -- a mild, communal brainwashing, if you will. In a society where so much effort is made to make our world more convenient, it is not natural to challenge such truths -- just use Windows. It's as fair to think that IT professionals know better as it is to think that doctors don't abuse drugs, legislators always obey the law and CPA's never bounce checks. In the course of learning Linux I've come to the realization that many IS staff are just people with jobs. It's not the way I want it; but I can work with it. Andrew Gould ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Love on board
On Tuesday 11 November 2003 01:33 pm, Ken Moffat wrote: Collins Richey wrote: On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:48:30 -0500 Chris Kassopulo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Former Caldera CEO Ransom Love joins Progeny board http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=03/11/11/0333248 I haven't kept track of Progeny, but after visiting their website, one thing is apparent: In spite of the fact that Ian Murdock runs the show, the only reference on their home page to GNU-bleeding-linux is in a link to a news article! There is hope. Forgive my ignorance, but isn't this former ceo the one who lead Caldera to it's present state of affairs? Yes and no. Ransom Love was a strong advocate of Linux in business, Linux standards, binary compatibility (is this the correct term?) between Unix and Linux, and the creation of United Linux. It is my understanding that Caldera contributed to many open source projects, including RPM. So yes, he had a hand in many of today's circumstances; however, I choose to disassociate today's SCO from Ransom Love's Caldera that created eDesktop 2.4. (Ahh, the memories of my early newbiness.) In an interview, Mr. Love declined to comment on the merits SCO's lawsuit; but he made it clear that he would have handled the entire situation differently. From an outsider's view (outside of Caldera), I think his statement is consistent with his past actions. Andrew Gould ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Love on board
On Tuesday 11 November 2003 04:02 pm, Collins Richey wrote: On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:01:57 -0600 Andrew L. Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So yes, he had a hand in many of today's circumstances; however, I choose to disassociate today's SCO from Ransom Love's Caldera that created eDesktop 2.4. (Ahh, the memories of my early newbiness.) Speaking of which, I was wandering through a MicroCenter store just yesterday and found a copy of Caldera OpenLinux between the RedHats and SuSEs. Shades of yesteryear. SCO has ceased it's Linux sales. If you buy that copy of OpenLinux, do they still have to support you? Does the fact that they didn't effectively withdraw the product from the shelves affect the lawsuit? Or is the product now considered MicroCenter's responsibility? Given the lawsuit, is MicroCenter have any liability if SCO is right? Maybe MicroCenter will reduce the price if you tell them there's no support and they're selling an IP lawsuit. There's a local computer shop here that's had Corel Linux, 2nd Edition (one standard, one deluxe), on their shelves since I moved here over a year ago.at the original price. I tried to clue the management in on the product's status; but the manager I spoke to has never heard the term sunk cost. Andrew Gould ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
irc.openprojects.net?
I was browsing the Forums section of the Linux-SxS website and noticed the IRC link to irc.openprojects.net. Is this still active? I was unable to connect to it using xchat. Andrew Gould ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Love on board
On Tuesday 11 November 2003 04:46 pm, burns wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 17:25, Andrew L. Gould wrote: snip I tried to clue the management in on the product's status; but the manager I spoke to has never heard the term sunk cost. More likely he has and that's why he's still trying to sell it. No, if he had, he would drop the price and sell it for whatever he could get. At $70 for the Deluxe version, he's not going to recover anything. Andrew ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
