Re: FW: [EmperorLinux-os-RedHat] do not use : GLIBC update packages ( from Red Hat Network)
Net Llama! wrote: Well, then i must just be lucky, because I didn't need to go through any of that ordeal. All I had to do was upgrade to the last glibc release (late yesterday) and the problems created by the former (from early yesterday) were solved. Granted, I'm using my own 2.4.22-xfs kernel, and not Redhat's, so perhaps that is why i'm not as plagued by this fiasco as others. I have my self rolled 2.4.22 kernel too with some mutimedia patches (low latency etc). I guess, in my case it might have been an i368 vs. i686 issue: glibc rpm is one of the rare packages supplied in architecture specific versions, and I fear, apt-get (which otherwise I highly praise) didn't handle this correctly and upgraded ...i686 to ... i383. I can't reproduce this now, but I will keep an eye on apt-get in this respect. Klaus ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: FW: [EmperorLinux-os-RedHat] do not use : GLIBC update packages ( from Red Hat Network)
Net Llama! wrote: What last time? Let's not play revisionist historians, ok? But there IS a history, dating back to April, see: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=88456 and updating glibc to glibc-2.3.2-27.9.6 hosed my system, rendering it unbootable. For all co-victims, here's the steps that finally reanimated my RH9 box, quoted from http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/5/2oo3/05/4/57607 1) insert CD RedHat 9.0 disk 1 into CDROM 2) boot computer from CD 3) type linux rescue in the installation prompt 4) answer few questions about language and network settings, then press Continue when asked about old system mounting to /mnt/sysimage 5) when you get shell prompt, type mount to check if CD is mounted to /mnt/source and old system is mounted to /mnt/sysimage 6) type rpm -ivh --force --root /mnt/sysimage /mnt/source/RedHat/RPMS/glibc-2.3.2-11.9.i686.rpm /mnt/source/RedHat/RPMS/glibc-common-2.3.2-11.9.i386.rpm to reinstall original glibc 7) type chroot /mnt/sysimage to check if you can get old root instead of usual Segmentation fault, then simply type exit twice to exit from shells and reboot computer. Enjoy. :) After that I (K.) booted into runlevel 3 and, as root, did an up2date glibc glibc-devel which gave me the most recent glibc-2.3.2-27.9.7 and it's associates. Klaus ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: FW: [EmperorLinux-os-RedHat] do not use : GLIBC update packages ( from Red Hat Network)
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: Net Llama! wrote: What last time? Let's not play revisionist historians, ok? But there IS a history, dating back to April, see: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=88456 and updating glibc to glibc-2.3.2-27.9.6 hosed my system, rendering it unbootable. For all co-victims, here's the steps that finally reanimated my RH9 box, quoted from http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/5/2oo3/05/4/57607 Well, then i must just be lucky, because I didn't need to go through any of that ordeal. All I had to do was upgrade to the last glibc release (late yesterday) and the problems created by the former (from early yesterday) were solved. Granted, I'm using my own 2.4.22-xfs kernel, and not Redhat's, so perhaps that is why i'm not as plagued by this fiasco as others. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [EmperorLinux-os-RedHat] do not use : GLIBC update packages ( from Red Hat Network)
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Collins Richey wrote: On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:05:05 -0500 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Consuming 0.8K bytes, Net Llama! blathered: On 11/13/03 17:04, dep wrote: quoth Kurt Wall: | Consuming 2.3K bytes, Net Llama! blathered: | I can vouch for this. My RH9 box is trashed as a result. | | [badly borken glibc] | | Whoops! leave it to redhat. what was it last time? gcc-2.7.6 or something? What last time? Let's not play revisionist historians, ok? Indeed. GCC 2.96; glibc 2.0.7; NPTL; problems running RPM on kernel 2.5. Shall I continue? I'm curious. Until last year I had avoided RH like the plague. Were these glitches only for desktop users, or did they propagate all the fubars to their server releases as well? Up until recently, Redhat didn't have a distinct server release. It was the numbered releases, and that was all. Ironicly, the Advanced Server and Enterprise Server product line has been completely uneffected by this mess, so Redhat seems to be capable of delivering sane, stable packages when they find it justifiable. gcc-2.96 from RH-7.0 is the only package that I've run into on Redhat (long ago) that had some severe problems. NPTL was contraversial, however it certainly wasn't unstable, or broken. Redhat never released a 2.5.x kernel, so anyone having problems with RPM on that kernel has self-inflicted wounds that are not redhat's fault. I'm not at all familiar with a glibc-2.0.7 issue, primarily because that had to have occured before i had started using Linux back in late 1998. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
FW: [EmperorLinux-os-RedHat] do not use : GLIBC update packages ( from Red Hat Network)
Folks, Since we've been talking about updates, I got this today from the Emperor Linux folks, who installed RH on a couple of work laptops. -Original Message- Customers running Red Hat 9.0, Red Hat has recently released a badly broken automatic update of GLIBC and nptl onto their Red Hat Network (RHN) service. Please _DO_NOT_ download this update onto your system, nor any other associated updates. We have received quite a few reports already from our customers that the GLIBC update has broken their RH9 systems. Symptoms include: - Inability to log in to X with Gnome - Can't startx if gnome is your WM - rpm broken (can't open pkg database) - breaks anything useing gthread-posix.c / pthread_getschedparam I installed the glibc, nscd, and nptl-devel stuff all using redhat network. At that point, things started going wrong. rpm would no longer work. I tried a reboot, and was then no longer able to log in via X except via a failsafe mode. (Both failsafe and console still worked, although even in those logins rpm was still broken.) At this time we are working for a fix for these problems. The final fix should probably come from Red Hat, but that may take some time. We will try to get this fixed as soon as possible. It appears that KDE is unaffected (so you can still get into your system to work). -- Lincoln In Harmony's Way and In A Chord, Tom ;-}) Tom Condon Registered Linux User #154358 Plain Text Emails Don't Spread Virii! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: FW: [EmperorLinux-os-RedHat] do not use : GLIBC update packages ( from Red Hat Network)
I can vouch for this. My RH9 box is trashed as a result. On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote: Folks, Since we've been talking about updates, I got this today from the Emperor Linux folks, who installed RH on a couple of work laptops. -Original Message- Customers running Red Hat 9.0, Red Hat has recently released a badly broken automatic update of GLIBC and nptl onto their Red Hat Network (RHN) service. Please _DO_NOT_ download this update onto your system, nor any other associated updates. We have received quite a few reports already from our customers that the GLIBC update has broken their RH9 systems. Symptoms include: - Inability to log in to X with Gnome - Can't startx if gnome is your WM - rpm broken (can't open pkg database) - breaks anything useing gthread-posix.c / pthread_getschedparam I installed the glibc, nscd, and nptl-devel stuff all using redhat network. At that point, things started going wrong. rpm would no longer work. I tried a reboot, and was then no longer able to log in via X except via a failsafe mode. (Both failsafe and console still worked, although even in those logins rpm was still broken.) At this time we are working for a fix for these problems. The final fix should probably come from Red Hat, but that may take some time. We will try to get this fixed as soon as possible. It appears that KDE is unaffected (so you can still get into your system to work). -- Lincoln In Harmony's Way and In A Chord, Tom ;-}) Tom Condon Registered Linux User #154358 Plain Text Emails Don't Spread Virii! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: FW: [EmperorLinux-os-RedHat] do not use : GLIBC update packages ( from Red Hat Network)
For once I'm glad I procrastinated about installing a security update. Thanks, Michael Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote: Folks, Since we've been talking about updates, I got this today from the Emperor Linux folks, who installed RH on a couple of work laptops. -Original Message- Customers running Red Hat 9.0, Red Hat has recently released a badly broken automatic update of GLIBC and nptl onto their Red Hat Network (RHN) service. Please _DO_NOT_ download this update onto your system, nor any other associated updates. We have received quite a few reports already from our customers that the GLIBC update has broken their RH9 systems. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: FW: [EmperorLinux-os-RedHat] do not use : GLIBC update packages ( from Red Hat Network)
Redhat did re-release the packages about an hour ago. Fixed my problems on RH9. On 11/13/03 14:32, Michael Hipp wrote: For once I'm glad I procrastinated about installing a security update. Thanks, Michael Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote: Folks, Since we've been talking about updates, I got this today from the Emperor Linux folks, who installed RH on a couple of work laptops. -Original Message- Customers running Red Hat 9.0, Red Hat has recently released a badly broken automatic update of GLIBC and nptl onto their Red Hat Network (RHN) service. Please _DO_NOT_ download this update onto your system, nor any other associated updates. We have received quite a few reports already from our customers that the GLIBC update has broken their RH9 systems. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 3:30pm up 14:17, 2 users, load average: 0.18, 0.27, 0.51 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: FW: [EmperorLinux-os-RedHat] do not use : GLIBC update packages ( from Red Hat Network)
Net Llama! wrote: Redhat did re-release the packages about an hour ago. Fixed my problems on RH9. That's a pretty quick response. Kudos to 'em. Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: FW: [EmperorLinux-os-RedHat] do not use : GLIBC update packages ( from Red Hat Network)
Consuming 2.3K bytes, Net Llama! blathered: I can vouch for this. My RH9 box is trashed as a result. [badly borken glibc] Whoops! Kurt -- Are you a turtle? ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: FW: [EmperorLinux-os-RedHat] do not use : GLIBC update packages ( from Red Hat Network)
quoth Kurt Wall: | Consuming 2.3K bytes, Net Llama! blathered: | I can vouch for this. My RH9 box is trashed as a result. | | [badly borken glibc] | | Whoops! leave it to redhat. what was it last time? gcc-2.7.6 or something? -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: FW: [EmperorLinux-os-RedHat] do not use : GLIBC update packages ( from Red Hat Network)
On 11/13/03 17:04, dep wrote: quoth Kurt Wall: | Consuming 2.3K bytes, Net Llama! blathered: | I can vouch for this. My RH9 box is trashed as a result. | | [badly borken glibc] | | Whoops! leave it to redhat. what was it last time? gcc-2.7.6 or something? What last time? Let's not play revisionist historians, ok? -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 5:10pm up 15:57, 1 user, load average: 0.17, 0.30, 0.46 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: FW: [EmperorLinux-os-RedHat] do not use : GLIBC update packages ( from Red Hat Network)
Consuming 0.8K bytes, Net Llama! blathered: On 11/13/03 17:04, dep wrote: quoth Kurt Wall: | Consuming 2.3K bytes, Net Llama! blathered: | I can vouch for this. My RH9 box is trashed as a result. | | [badly borken glibc] | | Whoops! leave it to redhat. what was it last time? gcc-2.7.6 or something? What last time? Let's not play revisionist historians, ok? Indeed. GCC 2.96; glibc 2.0.7; NPTL; problems running RPM on kernel 2.5. Shall I continue? Kurt -- It is better for civilization to be going down the drain than to be coming up it. -- Henry Allen ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [EmperorLinux-os-RedHat] do not use : GLIBC update packages ( from Red Hat Network)
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:05:05 -0500 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Consuming 0.8K bytes, Net Llama! blathered: On 11/13/03 17:04, dep wrote: quoth Kurt Wall: | Consuming 2.3K bytes, Net Llama! blathered: | I can vouch for this. My RH9 box is trashed as a result. | | [badly borken glibc] | | Whoops! leave it to redhat. what was it last time? gcc-2.7.6 or something? What last time? Let's not play revisionist historians, ok? Indeed. GCC 2.96; glibc 2.0.7; NPTL; problems running RPM on kernel 2.5. Shall I continue? I actually had fairly good results with fedora and RH7.3, but RH does have a few well recorded problems. Oh well, someone on the list used to fault me for my bleeding edge gentoo. Life has been pretty stable on the bleeding edge. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [EmperorLinux-os-RedHat] do not use : GLIBC update packages ( from Red Hat Network)
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:05:05 -0500 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Consuming 0.8K bytes, Net Llama! blathered: On 11/13/03 17:04, dep wrote: quoth Kurt Wall: | Consuming 2.3K bytes, Net Llama! blathered: | I can vouch for this. My RH9 box is trashed as a result. | | [badly borken glibc] | | Whoops! leave it to redhat. what was it last time? gcc-2.7.6 or something? What last time? Let's not play revisionist historians, ok? Indeed. GCC 2.96; glibc 2.0.7; NPTL; problems running RPM on kernel 2.5. Shall I continue? I'm curious. Until last year I had avoided RH like the plague. Were these glitches only for desktop users, or did they propagate all the fubars to their server releases as well? -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
