Re: CD-RW disks

2003-01-04 Thread Collins
On Fri, 03 Jan 2003 19:49:07 -0800
Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Collins wrote:
 
 
 I'll have to try some new media (sigh).  All of these were still in
 shrink-wrap, however.  Blanking them also does not work.
 
   
 
 I may have missed something here, but do music cd's play in that unit?
 
 -- 

Yes.  And I can burn audio cd's (CD-R) as well and they work in external
cd-players,  I can also burn (CD-R) isos with no problems.

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Re: CD-RW disks

2003-01-04 Thread Ted Ozolins
Collins wrote:


 

I may have missed something here, but do music cd's play in that unit?

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Yes.  And I can burn audio cd's (CD-R) as well and they work in external
cd-players,  I can also burn (CD-R) isos with no problems.

 

I use cdr/w quite a bit for large file transfers between computers at 
work and home. I just tried blanking one (out of the box) and it failed. 
I've had these for about 6 months.  using another rewritable that is 
from the same batch but has been used several times works just fine. Out 
of eight rewritables left in this batch, five failed, this is terrible, 
I've never had problems with Memorex in the past.  I'll have to check 
some of the ones at work and see if they have the same problem (thats 
over 150 units). I'm now wondering if this is a time related problem 
associated with rewriteable media?  

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Re: CD-RW disks

2003-01-04 Thread Susan Macchia
I've been using Imation CD-RW 1x-4x compatible for quite a while now with no
problems.  Could be the vendor?  Just my $.02 :-)

Ted Ozolins wrote:

 Collins wrote:
 
  
 
 I may have missed something here, but do music cd's play in that unit?
 
 --

 
 
 Yes.  And I can burn audio cd's (CD-R) as well and they work in external
 cd-players,  I can also burn (CD-R) isos with no problems.
 
  
 
 I use cdr/w quite a bit for large file transfers between computers at
 work and home. I just tried blanking one (out of the box) and it failed.
 I've had these for about 6 months.  using another rewritable that is
 from the same batch but has been used several times works just fine. Out
 of eight rewritables left in this batch, five failed, this is terrible,
 I've never had problems with Memorex in the past.  I'll have to check
 some of the ones at work and see if they have the same problem (thats
 over 150 units). I'm now wondering if this is a time related problem
 associated with rewriteable media?

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CD-RW disks

2003-01-03 Thread Collins
I've been using the CD writer drive that came with my HP pc for a
couple of years to write CD-R disks with no problems.  It's a TEAC unit
according to scanbus, i.e.

0,0,0 0) 'TEAC   ' 'CD-W54E ' '1.1C' Removable CD-ROM

Now I'm trying to use the few CD-RW disks (TDK 4x to 10x capable) which
came with the computer, and I'm getting errors.  'cdrecord -v dev=0,0,0
speed=4 isofs' (made with mkisofs) produces:


cdrecord: Input/output error. test unit ready: scsi sendcmd: no error
CDB:  00 00 00 00 00 00
status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
Sense Bytes: 70 00 02 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 3A 00 00 00
Sense Key: 0x2 Not Ready, Segment 0
Sense Code: 0x3A Qual 0x00 (medium not present) Fru 0x0
Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) 
cmd finished after 0.000s timeout 40s
cdrecord: No disk / Wrong disk!

No joy with ... blank  or ... blank --force ... either.

Same results with 3 never-used CD_RW blanks (never used)

Does anyone have a clue?

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Re: CD-RW disks

2003-01-03 Thread R. Quenett
from Collins:

 I've been using the CD writer drive that came with my HP pc for a
 couple of years to write CD-R disks with no problems.  It's a TEAC unit

[...]

 Now I'm trying to use the few CD-RW disks (TDK 4x to 10x capable) which
 came with the computer, and I'm getting errors.  'cdrecord -v dev=0,0,0

[...]

 Does anyone have a clue?

Wy back when I was trying to use cr-rw because at that time there 
was a buck to be saved, I had disk failures often enough that I never 
came to think of the process as something I could rely on.

I did a bit of literature review, tho none of my own direct research. 
The consensus of what I found was that the phase change of the alloy 
used in the rewriteable blanks wasn't entirely reliable or stable.  
You can imagine the pleasure which might result from spontaneous 
phase reversion.:-)  

The synthesis was to the effect that one should use rewriteables only 
for data that they wanted to lose and that the game of trying to 
protect against that inevitable data loss wasn't worth the candle.

I never did find a credible contrary opinion.

R
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Re: CD-RW disks

2003-01-03 Thread Net Llama!
On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Collins wrote:
 I've been using the CD writer drive that came with my HP pc for a
 couple of years to write CD-R disks with no problems.  It's a TEAC unit
 according to scanbus, i.e.

 0,0,0 0) 'TEAC   ' 'CD-W54E ' '1.1C' Removable CD-ROM

 Now I'm trying to use the few CD-RW disks (TDK 4x to 10x capable) which
 came with the computer, and I'm getting errors.  'cdrecord -v dev=0,0,0
 speed=4 isofs' (made with mkisofs) produces:


 cdrecord: Input/output error. test unit ready: scsi sendcmd: no error
 CDB:  00 00 00 00 00 00
 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
 Sense Bytes: 70 00 02 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 3A 00 00 00
 Sense Key: 0x2 Not Ready, Segment 0
 Sense Code: 0x3A Qual 0x00 (medium not present) Fru 0x0
 Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid)
 cmd finished after 0.000s timeout 40s
 cdrecord: No disk / Wrong disk!

 No joy with ... blank  or ... blank --force ... either.

 Same results with 3 never-used CD_RW blanks (never used)

So this is only occuring with the TDK disks that came with the drive?
cdrecord seems to think that there's no disk in the drive, or that the
disks aren't valid for writing.  Seems like they're crappy disks, assuming
that others work fine.

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Re: CD-RW disks

2003-01-03 Thread Ted Ozolins
Net Llama! wrote:


So this is only occuring with the TDK disks that came with the drive?
cdrecord seems to think that there's no disk in the drive, or that the
disks aren't valid for writing.  Seems like they're crappy disks, assuming
that others work fine.

 

I've run across this a few times with re-writeables. I've force a 
blanking and that seems to cure it. I've also had that problem because 
of fine dust on the lense of the writer.

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Re: CD-RW disks

2003-01-03 Thread Collins
On Fri, 03 Jan 2003 12:02:40 -0800
Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Net Llama! wrote:
 
 So this is only occuring with the TDK disks that came with the drive?
 cdrecord seems to think that there's no disk in the drive, or that
 the disks aren't valid for writing.  Seems like they're crappy disks,
 assuming that others work fine.
 
   
 
 I've run across this a few times with re-writeables. I've force a 
 blanking and that seems to cure it. I've also had that problem because
 
 of fine dust on the lense of the writer.
 

I'll have to try some new media (sigh).  All of these were still in
shrink-wrap, however.  Blanking them also does not work.

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Re: CD-RW disks

2003-01-03 Thread Ted Ozolins
Collins wrote:



I'll have to try some new media (sigh).  All of these were still in
shrink-wrap, however.  Blanking them also does not work.

 

I may have missed something here, but do music cd's play in that unit?

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Westbank, B. C.

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