Re: Caldera List
Javier Hernandez wrote: I am testing some other distros: Suse and debian (libranet). libranet has a new version in beta, looks improved. They are selling the current version (2.7) at a discount ($25). ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Caldera List
On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 21:42:41 -0600 Rick Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: List I have been watching this last bit of conversation with bated interest. I am using Caldera stuff still. But it appears I need to do some heavy consideration of moving to something else. At this time I have a lack of funds to buy much in OS's. I like the setup of the eServer/eWorkstation 3.1.1 systems, but they are starting to fall back in the stable side of cutting edge. While I do not want bleading edge, since I am still do college software design for one more year. I would like the opion of this list, no flames as I know we all love our stuff g. 1. Should I stay with what I have and just upgrade it as I can to xfree 4.3 kernel 2.4.20.X gcc 3.2, I really do not care for kde and I am using xfce 3.18 xterm 3.19 ? If I were you, I'd stay with what I have right now. If you have a spare partition, you might try to install something else to play with. I'd suggest you look at Knoppix. Knoppix is a basic distro you can even install to a hard drive (unfortunately, they don't allow XFS install). It's based on Debian, so a chicken can do upkeep (upgrade, maintenance). dselect takes care of all dependencies for you, not like RPM. IMHO, it's always been the best, just that annoying GNU stupidity. Boot up Knoppix and play with it. You can do almost anything without affecting your isntalled system as long as you don't make your hard disk read/write. 2. dump it and move to another distro. System SCSI drives and cdroms NVida RNT2 video Asus P3 mobo. 750+ meg memory soundcard nic and some other general stuff. Any thoughts here as to what direct I might want to go. Cheers to all [snip] Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. Nemesis Racing Team motto pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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On Sun, 9 Mar 2003 07:48:49 -0500 David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 21:42:41 -0600 Rick Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: List I have been watching this last bit of conversation with bated interest. I am using Caldera stuff still. But it appears I need to do some heavy consideration of moving to something else. At this time I have a lack of funds to buy much in OS's. I like the setup of the eServer/eWorkstation 3.1.1 systems, but they are starting to fall back in the stable side of cutting edge. While I do not want bleading edge, since I am still do college software design for one more year. I would like the opion of this list, no flames as I know we all love our stuff g. 1. Should I stay with what I have and just upgrade it as I can to xfree 4.3 kernel 2.4.20.X gcc 3.2, I really do not care for kde and I am using xfce 3.18 xterm 3.19 ? If I were you, I'd stay with what I have right now. If you have a spare partition, you might try to install something else to play with. I'd suggest you look at Knoppix. Knoppix is a basic distro you can even install to a hard drive (unfortunately, they don't allow XFS install). It's based on Debian, so a chicken can do upkeep (upgrade, maintenance). dselect takes care of all dependencies for you, not like RPM. IMHO, it's always been the best, just that annoying GNU stupidity. Boot up Knoppix and play with it. You can do almost anything without affecting your isntalled system as long as you don't make your hard disk read/write. 2. dump it and move to another distro. System SCSI drives and cdroms NVida RNT2 video Asus P3 mobo. 750+ meg memory soundcard nic and some other general stuff. Any thoughts here as to what direct I might want to go. Cheers to all [snip] Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. Nemesis Racing Team motto David Sounds logical, I have been listening to the list talk of knoppix, and thought about looking at it. It is on my list now. Too much to d, not enough time in the day. cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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I did the same. Didn't even leave a comment first, it just wouldn't have mattered. --- On Sat 03/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 18:19:35 -0700 Subject: Caldera List Welp, I finally pulled the plug on the Caldera Users List. Been a subscriber for 8 years.. The SCO MBA's (appropriately said earlier) really are clueless. They are trying to get the big payoff so they can retire. snipSteve ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Caldera List
On Saturday 08 March 2003 05:19 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Welp, I finally pulled the plug on the Caldera Users List. Ditto -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd Rather Be Sailing ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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On Sat, 8 Mar 2003, Kurt Wall wrote: So, what's the reaction on the Caldera list to this latest piece of brilliance? I do not think Caldera is too much worry about it. I remember the Caldera mail list with 100 - 150 messages a day, nowdays you can get one or two messages each one or two days. :( Just a couple of comments on the list, one to tell about unsubscribing Really sad ¡¡¡ I still have too systems working with Caldera Openlinux 3.1.1 and one with Openlinux 3.1 but I am testing some other distros: Suse and debian (libranet). Best regards, -- Javi, _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.europa3.com/users/fjherna/ \_(X)_(_)_(X)_/ http://www.valux.org/ !___!___!_Valencia(Spain) === Advancement in position. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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Welp, I finally pulled the plug on the Caldera Users List. Been a subscriber for 8 years.. The SCO MBA's (appropriately said earlier) really are clueless. They are trying to get the big payoff so they can retire. I can say that I have been retiring Caldera driven systems for about a year now. I rather like SUSE.. Man has Caldera taken a dive. Hopefully I can get less of a loss on the IPO stock that I have now.. I am planning my exit strategy before they go bankrupt.. Steve P.S. If anyone has good reports on a Linux distro that works well with a Ultra Sparc 2, and/or Mac G3(Yellowdog?), let me know.. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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On 03/08/03 17:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P.S. If anyone has good reports on a Linux distro that works well with a Ultra Sparc 2, and/or Mac G3(Yellowdog?), let me know.. If you don't mind Redhat (i know that i don't), then Aurora Linux Yellowdog are the best bets: http://yellowdoglinux.com/ (Mac) http://auroralinux.org/ (SPARC) -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 5:20pm up 54 days, 44 min, 3 users, load average: 0.38, 0.32, 0.44 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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Feigning erudition, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: % Welp, I finally pulled the plug on the Caldera Users List. Been a subscriber % for 8 years.. The SCO MBA's (appropriately said earlier) really are clueless. % They are trying to get the big payoff so they can retire. So, what's the reaction on the Caldera list to this latest piece of brilliance? % I can say that I have been retiring Caldera driven systems for about a year % now. I rather like SUSE.. I've been liking Slackware a good deal, played with LFS a bit. Haven't had the courage to try SuSE in a long time. Mandrake's out, as is Red Hat and other RPM-based distributions. Haven't tried the Debian family, yet. % Man has Caldera taken a dive. Hopefully I can get less of a loss on the IPO % stock that I have now.. I am planning my exit strategy before they go bankrupt.. I'm just amazed, man. It's just a darn shame. Kurt -- Real programmers don't comment their code. It was hard to write, it should be hard to understand. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Caldera List
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Welp, I finally pulled the plug on the Caldera Users List. Been a subscriber for 8 years.. The SCO MBA's (appropriately said earlier) really are clueless. They are trying to get the big payoff so they can retire. I can say that I have been retiring Caldera driven systems for about a year now. I rather like SUSE.. Man has Caldera taken a dive. Hopefully I can get less of a loss on the IPO stock that I have now.. I am planning my exit strategy before they go bankrupt.. Steve P.S. If anyone has good reports on a Linux distro that works well with a Ultra Sparc 2, and/or Mac G3(Yellowdog?), let me know.. For the Sparc, I'd recommend Aurora Linux. http://auroralinux.org I use it on an Ultra 5 and an E250. It's based on RH 7.3, kernel 2.4.18, and works very well. I left the Caldera list about 8 months ago after a frustrating go-round with John Boland about their business methodology which he was firmly supportive of. I don't have any systems running anything of theirs anymore. I still believe it's one of the best examples (and will end up as such at Wharton) of a company going from first to worst in record setting time. I'm glad some of the good people there left before it became so embarrassing. -- Andrew Mathews - 6:49pm up 26 days, 23:43, 13 users, load average: 1.03, 1.04, 1.00 - I'd love to go out with you, but I'm converting my calendar watch from Julian to Gregorian. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 20:41:19 -0500 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Feigning erudition, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: % Welp, I finally pulled the plug on the Caldera Users List. Been a subscriber % for 8 years.. The SCO MBA's (appropriately said earlier) really are clueless. % They are trying to get the big payoff so they can retire. So, what's the reaction on the Caldera list to this latest piece of brilliance? Reaction? Heck the list has been like a piece of comfortably numb (is there anybody out there? Is there anyone at home?) for a year. The reaction I am sure will be nada (he he).. % I can say that I have been retiring Caldera driven systems for about a year % now. I rather like SUSE.. I've been liking Slackware a good deal, played with LFS a bit. Haven't had the courage to try SuSE in a long time. Mandrake's out, as is Red Hat and other RPM-based distributions. Haven't tried the Debian family, yet. SUSE is great. I like it better than RedHat. Haven't used Slackware in *many* years.. % Man has Caldera taken a dive. Hopefully I can get less of a loss on the IPO % stock that I have now.. I am planning my exit strategy before they go bankrupt.. I'm just amazed, man. It's just a darn shame. Shame? More like sham. I have never been involved in such a project as closely as the Open Linux debacle and seen such turn your back on your bread and butter attitude. But, was destined to have happened. I mean business is business. I will vote with my wallet - and with the customers that I recommend Linux to. Guess I was duped from the start of the IPO by the RedHat rise to fruition.. Shame on me.. Steve ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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List I have been watching this last bit of conversation with bated interest. I am using Caldera stuff still. But it appears I need to do some heavy consideration of moving to something else. At this time I have a lack of funds to buy much in OS's. I like the setup of the eServer/eWorkstation 3.1.1 systems, but they are starting to fall back in the stable side of cutting edge. While I do not want bleading edge, since I am still do college software design for one more year. I would like the opion of this list, no flames as I know we all love our stuff g. 1. Should I stay with what I have and just upgrade it as I can to xfree 4.3 kernel 2.4.20.X gcc 3.2, I really do not care for kde and I am using xfce 3.18 xterm 3.19 ? 2. dump it and move to another distro. System SCSI drives and cdroms NVida RNT2 video Asus P3 mobo. 750+ meg memory soundcard nic and some other general stuff. Any thoughts here as to what direct I might want to go. Cheers to all -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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Hi Rick ! If you still have one more year to go, you should stick with what works. It'll take you a couple of weeks to a month to get used to another distro. If you're going to move to an OpenLinux-like distro like TurboLinux, it should not take you more than a week, Red Hat will take you about 2 weeks (because they have a lot of configuration crap), Slackware -well, that depends. I was never able to get Slackware working fine on my home system. If you're doing mainly development work (like myself), and you just need a stable, familiar platform, then you should resist the urge to upgrade. I am a victim of this techno-lust, and have migrated in the past year, from OpenLinux to TurboLinux to Slackware to Spectra Linux, which is what I am using now. Wasted a lot of time without making my Java apps run any faster. In fact, if anything, bootup times are much slower now, because I've got a lot crap running on my system :). Regards, pascal chong Rick Sivernell wrote: List I have been watching this last bit of conversation with bated interest. I am using Caldera stuff still. But it appears I need to do some heavy consideration of moving to something else. At this time I have a lack of funds to buy much in OS's. I like the setup of the eServer/eWorkstation 3.1.1 systems, but they are starting to fall back in the stable side of cutting edge. While I do not want bleading edge, since I am still do college software design for one more year. I would like the opion of this list, no flames as I know we all love our stuff g. 1. Should I stay with what I have and just upgrade it as I can to xfree 4.3 kernel 2.4.20.X gcc 3.2, I really do not care for kde and I am using xfce 3.18 xterm 3.19 ? 2. dump it and move to another distro. System SCSI drives and cdroms NVida RNT2 video Asus P3 mobo. 750+ meg memory soundcard nic and some other general stuff. Any thoughts here as to what direct I might want to go. Cheers to all ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Caldera List
Kurt wrote: Feigning erudition, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: % Welp, I finally pulled the plug on the Caldera Users List. Been a subscriber % for 8 years.. The SCO MBA's (appropriately said earlier) really are clueless. % They are trying to get the big payoff so they can retire. So, what's the reaction on the Caldera list to this latest piece of brilliance? % I can say that I have been retiring Caldera driven systems for about a year % now. I rather like SUSE.. I've been liking Slackware a good deal, played with LFS a bit. Haven't had the courage to try SuSE in a long time. Mandrake's out, as is Red Hat and other RPM-based distributions. Haven't tried the Debian family, yet. % Man has Caldera taken a dive. Hopefully I can get less of a loss on the IPO % stock that I have now.. I am planning my exit strategy before they go bankrupt.. I'm just amazed, man. It's just a darn shame.
