Re: SuSE 8.1 (was Re: MechWarrior 2)
On December 19, 2002 10:50 am, Matthew Carpenter wrote: Hi David- I am contemplating 8.1 right now, but have heard a lot of crap about it being worse than 8.0 and more buggy, etc... What is your take on all of this? Does this seem to be upgrade-related (from 8.0 to 8.1) or is this 8.1 distro problematic? Well, I jumped straight from 7.3 to 8.1 so I can't really compare it to 8.0. However, aside from a recompile to replace the stock kernel, which didn't like my VIA motherboard all that much, I haven't noticed any major bugs. David Aikema ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: MechWarrior 2
now now Lonnie... play nice.. and point them to the Linux-Users SxS site(s) hehe Mr. Chang, numerous times myself and a few others have mentioned the fact of an 'interactive' help area.. which is all fine and dandy.. but whoever comes to it still need to make a contribution to the SxS.. We(that setup an irc channel) in no way want the chat area to take away from the Linux-Users SXS site. If you guys are worried about the servers your connecting to, I will host a dedicated chat room on my private chat server for list.. I dont mind. but I'm not going to be there all the time. If you would like to know what Im running for it, I am using PTLink HyBrid IRCd. It seems to run quite well on my trustix v1.5 box(which has no gui) for those that dont have a irc client(not to many setups don't) I also have a webchat interface which does require java... Let me know, if not, no biggie Bill Day Linux 2.2.20-1tr i586 9:10am up 16 days, 11 min, 0 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 We're still up at irc.openprojects.net @ #linux-users or irc.freenode.net @ #linux-users http://counter.li.org #83358 http://sxs.daysdomain.com/ - Original Message - From: Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 8:22 AM Subject: Re: MechWarrior 2 What part of i don't have the resouces or the knowledge don't you understand?? On Thu, 19 Dec 2002, m.w.chang wrote: you can, but you may not have the time.. Net Llama! wrote: I dont' have the resources or the knowledge to arrange such an event. On 12/17/02 23:38, m.w.chang wrote: if Mr. Llama could arrange an online webcaset of installing xfree86+winex (from tar-balls), it will be nice... I think it could be a really big event... -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 12/6/02 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: MechWarrior 2
The writing and the reality might not always jive, especially with Wine. Since Wine is admittedly Alpha-quality software, they break things and fix things all the time (What do you expect when attempting to implement such a buggy OS API?). Since I use Wine for my every-day Lotus Notes stuff, I attempt to test any new Wine version on a dummy box before doing any upgrades or changes. Sometimes something can be made to work, but when all's said and done, it's still not worth the effort. Now games which have been converted to native-Linux binarys I'm all about, but the Wine-gaming still just seems a bit of a pain (since multiple Wine apps running together can cause serious difficulties forcing a Wine-Reboot), etc... On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 17:29:35 -0800 Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then throw away your windoze box(es), cause both work with wine. or at least that's what some quick Googling indicates. On 12/17/02 17:21, m.w.chang wrote: I wanted to keep playing diablo2 and counter-strike on the linux workstation, if I could manage xfree86 and wine(x). When that happens, I could run away from Window$ foreever. Matthew Carpenter wrote: Yeah, I'd say it's beyond me as well... I have a Diamond Viper330... How do I even KNOW if I'm running with 3D Acceleration running for this card? If not, then what? And if so, what does it gain me? I know that XINE can use OpenGL mode, and I know that OpenGL has a lot of applications which use it, but then what? -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 5:25pm up 3 days, 36 min, 1 user, load average: 0.24, 0.38, 0.36 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: MechWarrior 2
I'd like to see it (although I'd probably be more likely to watch the archived presentation :) On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:38:33 +0800 m.w.chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if Mr. Llama could arrange an online webcaset of installing xfree86+winex (from tar-balls), it will be nice... I think it could be a really big event... m.w.chang wrote: I knew that (I did the search,too), but how .. -_- anyone got a step-by-step? -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux We Trust. news://news.hkpcug.org/ v \ http://www.linux-sxs.org news://news.linux.org.hk /( _ )\ http://www.linuxfromscratch.org ^ ^ http://beyond.linuxfromscratch.org For starters: http://new.linuxnow.com/tutorial/preface.html ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: MechWarrior 2
I dont' have the resources or the knowledge to arrange such an event. On 12/17/02 23:38, m.w.chang wrote: if Mr. Llama could arrange an online webcaset of installing xfree86+winex (from tar-balls), it will be nice... I think it could be a really big event... m.w.chang wrote: I knew that (I did the search,too), but how .. -_- anyone got a step-by-step? -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 6:05am up 3 days, 13:16, 1 user, load average: 0.03, 0.34, 0.62 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: MechWarrior 2
On December 17, 2002 11:38 pm, m.w.chang wrote: if Mr. Llama could arrange an online webcaset of installing xfree86+winex (from tar-balls), it will be nice... I think it could be a really big event... m.w.chang wrote: I knew that (I did the search,too), but how .. -_- anyone got a step-by-step? Transgaming makes RPMs available to subscribers, which installed quite nicely on SuSE 8.1 David Aikema ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: MechWarrior 2
I want to try a free-of-charge solution. HEHE... Transgaming makes RPMs available to subscribers, which installed quite nicely on SuSE 8.1 -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux We Trust. news://news.hkpcug.org/ v \ http://www.linux-sxs.org news://news.linux.org.hk /( _ )\ http://www.linuxfromscratch.org ^ ^ http://beyond.linuxfromscratch.org For starters: http://new.linuxnow.com/tutorial/preface.html ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: MechWarrior 2
you can, but you may not have the time.. Net Llama! wrote: I dont' have the resources or the knowledge to arrange such an event. On 12/17/02 23:38, m.w.chang wrote: if Mr. Llama could arrange an online webcaset of installing xfree86+winex (from tar-balls), it will be nice... I think it could be a really big event... -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux We Trust. news://news.hkpcug.org/ v \ http://www.linux-sxs.org news://news.linux.org.hk /( _ )\ http://www.linuxfromscratch.org ^ ^ http://beyond.linuxfromscratch.org For starters: http://new.linuxnow.com/tutorial/preface.html ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: MechWarrior 2
Did you ask in the comp.emulators.ms-windows.wine group? They might know. Whatever you do use the most current version of Wine or Winex. If you get some time, that would be great. If TransGaming says it doesn't work very well, I don't think I'd ask you to spend much time on it. As for whether it's an acquired taste, I own it, I like it... but I let it go a while back because I had too much to do to play in-depth games much. Although seeing MechIV has caused me to rethink that. I think I need to try Mech3 Mercs or just get MechIV (although I don't feel like sending Microsoft any more money). What I've seen of MechIV looks like it's indeed better than Mech2. I like the Mercenary idea. Thanks, Matt On Mon, 16 Dec 2002 18:39:25 -0800 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It doesn't say that the game doesn't work, it just says that it trips some sort of cd detection code. I just ran a quick google search and there is a no-cd hack for the game so you may be able to get it working. Is Mechwarrior a bit of an acquired taste? I got an oem copy of Mechwarrior 2 that came included with something a few years back... I played maybe 5 minutes of so of the game before the thing hit the junk pile. I do have a Transgaming subscription though and I may have that cd kicking around somewhere yet so I might just try and see if I can get the game running if you're curious about it. David Aikema - Original Message - From: James Conner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, December 16, 2002 11:28 am Subject: Re: MechWarrior 2 Well, a quick check on www.transgaming.com shows mech warrior 2 doesn't work well with winex. Winex is the version of wine that has directx8 and other features that make games play easier. I haven't messed with it much, but it's probably your best bet for windows games on linux. Jim On Monday December 16, 2002 10:08 pm, Matthew Carpenter wrote: I did check Google first but haven't been able to find a whole lot of recent information. I skimmed that listing but will read it closer to glean what I can. It problem is still Mech2 thinking I'm using 16 colors only... Thanks, Matt On Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:56:26 -0500 (EST) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Google is your friend: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=enlr=lang_enie=UTF- 8oe=UTF-8thread m=35C259D0.DB414633%40ucsd.edurnum=1prev=/groups%3Fas_q%3DMechWarr ior%25 20wine%26safe%3Dimages%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26as_ugroup%3D*win e*%252C %2520*linux*%26lr%3Dlang_en%26num%3D50%26hl%3Den Also make sure that you have the latest release of wine, it will always help. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- 7:01pm up 22 days, 4:12, 5 users, load average: 0.02, 0.02, 0.00 --- - Running Mandrake 9.0 - Linux - because life is too short for reboots... ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux- sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] AKA Grunt Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: MechWarrior 2
I wanted to keep playing diablo2 and counter-strike on the linux workstation, if I could manage xfree86 and wine(x). When that happens, I could run away from Window$ foreever. Matthew Carpenter wrote: Yeah, I'd say it's beyond me as well... I have a Diamond Viper330... How do I even KNOW if I'm running with 3D Acceleration running for this card? If not, then what? And if so, what does it gain me? I know that XINE can use OpenGL mode, and I know that OpenGL has a lot of applications which use it, but then what? -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux We Trust. news://news.hkpcug.org/ v \ http://www.linux-sxs.org news://news.linux.org.hk /( _ )\ http://www.linuxfromscratch.org ^ ^ http://beyond.linuxfromscratch.org For starters: http://new.linuxnow.com/tutorial/preface.html ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: MechWarrior 2
Then throw away your windoze box(es), cause both work with wine. or at least that's what some quick Googling indicates. On 12/17/02 17:21, m.w.chang wrote: I wanted to keep playing diablo2 and counter-strike on the linux workstation, if I could manage xfree86 and wine(x). When that happens, I could run away from Window$ foreever. Matthew Carpenter wrote: Yeah, I'd say it's beyond me as well... I have a Diamond Viper330... How do I even KNOW if I'm running with 3D Acceleration running for this card? If not, then what? And if so, what does it gain me? I know that XINE can use OpenGL mode, and I know that OpenGL has a lot of applications which use it, but then what? -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 5:25pm up 3 days, 36 min, 1 user, load average: 0.24, 0.38, 0.36 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: MechWarrior 2
I knew that (I did the search,too), but how .. -_- anyone got a step-by-step? I can do xfree86+icewm myself, but wine and 3d driver setup and those il8n and font stuffs... daunting... Net Llama! wrote: Then throw away your windoze box(es), cause both work with wine. or at least that's what some quick Googling indicates. I wanted to keep playing diablo2 and counter-strike on the linux workstation, if I could manage xfree86 and wine(x). When that happens, I could run away from Window$ foreever. -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux We Trust. news://news.hkpcug.org/ v \ http://www.linux-sxs.org news://news.linux.org.hk /( _ )\ http://www.linuxfromscratch.org ^ ^ http://beyond.linuxfromscratch.org For starters: http://new.linuxnow.com/tutorial/preface.html ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: MechWarrior 2
if Mr. Llama could arrange an online webcaset of installing xfree86+winex (from tar-balls), it will be nice... I think it could be a really big event... m.w.chang wrote: I knew that (I did the search,too), but how .. -_- anyone got a step-by-step? -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux We Trust. news://news.hkpcug.org/ v \ http://www.linux-sxs.org news://news.linux.org.hk /( _ )\ http://www.linuxfromscratch.org ^ ^ http://beyond.linuxfromscratch.org For starters: http://new.linuxnow.com/tutorial/preface.html ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
MechWarrior 2
I have been getting this craving for some Mech2 (heck, I'd probably even buy the MSMech4-Mercs if it worked). Does anyone know how to make this puppy work under Linux? Or do I have to use a Grub option not seen in many months? Any of the Mech series is appreciated. I've seen Mech4Mercs running on a buddy's machine and was quite impressed. I bought Heavy-Gear back before I knew Linux existed and found it to be trash by comparison. The Mech engine has always impressed me. Activision did a great job and even Microsoft's Mech4 looks pretty decent. I used CodeWeavers and got it to install in a very pretty fashion. But when I try to run the game I've tried several things and run into troubles. The latest (I skipped the Splash screen and moved right into the game) trouble is that it is telling me that I need to have my monitor at 256-colors or greater. I'm running 16 bit color in X, so I'm guessing this is some setting in Wine or a problem with Wine. I'm running an NVidia Riva card (Diamond Viper 330-AGP) but for the sake of getting it working at all, I chose software-3D this time around. If I can get it to work, then I'll try the OpenGL stuff. Or perhaps I should tackle the OpenGL stuff first? Might OpenGL require LESS of Wine rather than More? Thanks in advance, Matt ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: MechWarrior 2
I did check Google first but haven't been able to find a whole lot of recent information. I skimmed that listing but will read it closer to glean what I can. It problem is still Mech2 thinking I'm using 16 colors only... Thanks, Matt On Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:56:26 -0500 (EST) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Google is your friend: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=enlr=lang_enie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8threadm=35C259D0.DB414633%40ucsd.edurnum=1prev=/groups%3Fas_q%3DMechWarrior%2520wine%26safe%3Dimages%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26as_ugroup%3D*wine*%252C%2520*linux*%26lr%3Dlang_en%26num%3D50%26hl%3Den Also make sure that you have the latest release of wine, it will always help. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: MechWarrior 2
Well, a quick check on www.transgaming.com shows mech warrior 2 doesn't work well with winex. Winex is the version of wine that has directx8 and other features that make games play easier. I haven't messed with it much, but it's probably your best bet for windows games on linux. Jim On Monday December 16, 2002 10:08 pm, Matthew Carpenter wrote: I did check Google first but haven't been able to find a whole lot of recent information. I skimmed that listing but will read it closer to glean what I can. It problem is still Mech2 thinking I'm using 16 colors only... Thanks, Matt On Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:56:26 -0500 (EST) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Google is your friend: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=enlr=lang_enie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8thread m=35C259D0.DB414633%40ucsd.edurnum=1prev=/groups%3Fas_q%3DMechWarrior%25 20wine%26safe%3Dimages%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26as_ugroup%3D*wine*%252C %2520*linux*%26lr%3Dlang_en%26num%3D50%26hl%3Den Also make sure that you have the latest release of wine, it will always help. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- 7:01pm up 22 days, 4:12, 5 users, load average: 0.02, 0.02, 0.00 Running Mandrake 9.0 - Linux - because life is too short for reboots... ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: MechWarrior 2
It doesn't say that the game doesn't work, it just says that it trips some sort of cd detection code. I just ran a quick google search and there is a no-cd hack for the game so you may be able to get it working. Is Mechwarrior a bit of an acquired taste? I got an oem copy of Mechwarrior 2 that came included with something a few years back... I played maybe 5 minutes of so of the game before the thing hit the junk pile. I do have a Transgaming subscription though and I may have that cd kicking around somewhere yet so I might just try and see if I can get the game running if you're curious about it. David Aikema - Original Message - From: James Conner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, December 16, 2002 11:28 am Subject: Re: MechWarrior 2 Well, a quick check on www.transgaming.com shows mech warrior 2 doesn't work well with winex. Winex is the version of wine that has directx8 and other features that make games play easier. I haven't messed with it much, but it's probably your best bet for windows games on linux. Jim On Monday December 16, 2002 10:08 pm, Matthew Carpenter wrote: I did check Google first but haven't been able to find a whole lot of recent information. I skimmed that listing but will read it closer to glean what I can. It problem is still Mech2 thinking I'm using 16 colors only... Thanks, Matt On Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:56:26 -0500 (EST) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Google is your friend: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=enlr=lang_enie=UTF- 8oe=UTF-8thread m=35C259D0.DB414633%40ucsd.edurnum=1prev=/groups%3Fas_q%3DMechWarrior%25 20wine%26safe%3Dimages%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26as_ugroup%3D*wine*%252C %2520*linux*%26lr%3Dlang_en%26num%3D50%26hl%3Den Also make sure that you have the latest release of wine, it will always help. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- 7:01pm up 22 days, 4:12, 5 users, load average: 0.02, 0.02, 0.00 --- - Running Mandrake 9.0 - Linux - because life is too short for reboots... ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux- sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: MechWarrior 2
I hope an expert in wine/winex/xfree86 in this mailing list will write a sxs article on directx/opengl games on linux. It's beyond me... Matthew Carpenter wrote: I did check Google first but haven't been able to find a whole lot of recent information. I skimmed that listing but will read it closer to glean what I can. It problem is still Mech2 thinking I'm using 16 colors only... -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux We Trust. news://news.hkpcug.org/ v \ http://www.linux-sxs.org news://news.linux.org.hk /( _ )\ http://www.linuxfromscratch.org ^ ^ http://beyond.linuxfromscratch.org For starters: http://new.linuxnow.com/tutorial/preface.html ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
