Re: News reader
Previously, Ken Moffat chose to write: > On Sat, 15 Dec 2001 17:10:14 -0500 > > Tim Wunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > While at work (Win2K), Mozilla > > serves me fine. > > Have you found Mozilla for windows to be responsive, quick to load? > I use it in Linux along with Galeon, and am looking for a replacement > for the bloated Netscape 6.2 in Windows. Yes, at least on my 1.0GHz Athlon with 256MB RAM. It had been lagging behind Netscape 4.79, until this past week. Thursday's build loaded quicker. (After logging on in the morning, I start NC4.7x, then Moz -- Moz won Friday morning for the first time.) Over the last 6-8 weeks, performance has gotten significantly better. I would expect Netscape 6.2 to lag behind since it's built from 0.9.4 (6.2.1 comes from 0.9.4.1). And I realy like the Tabs feature (N6.2 doesn't have it). Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: test
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Lee wrote: > % ignore > > Make me. :) > > Kurt Por que? > > -- > The plot was designed in a light vein that somehow became varicose. > -- David Lardner > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: su in script
from Dave Anselmi: "R. Quenett" wrote: " > And, it seems, scripts are not supposed to be able " > to run suid root. I know all of this would be dead simple if I had " > some real knowledge of linux, but I don't, so I have to just muddle " > along and learn as I go. Anyway, it's working well enough now, at " > least for the moment. " " Scripts can be suid just as well as any executable file. Running any That's one of the _wonderful_ things I'm learning about linux. One must _R_TF*, but should only actually believe at one's peril. I don't quarrel with what you say, but take a look at Lesson 7 at http://www.samag.com/documents/s=1149/sam0106a/0106a.htm which says: 'Because of these problems, some systems (e.g., Linux) won't honor SUID on shell scripts.' I'm sure I've seen this in other places in various docs, too. What the rock bottom truth is, I haven't a clue. Also, the neton/off script wouldn't run the ifconfig statements when set suid root, either. I just presumed I hadn't done it right (that being usually a very safe assumption:). " I'd be happy to comment on the full script, if you're interested and if you " get back to fiddling with it (no need to fix something that works). Thankyou for this, I do appreciate; but for now, as you say, it works. " Perhaps that's an off-list discussion. I think so. R -- "In action, be primitive; in foresight, a strategist." -Rene Char ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: News reader
On Sat, 15 Dec 2001 10:00:01 -0800 Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > sylpheed --compose > > On Sat, 15 Dec 2001 11:49:01 -0600 > "Richard R. Sivernell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Collins > > > > Using Sylpheed, How do you call the mail composer from browser? > > > > cheers > > -- > > Rick Sivernell > > Dallas, Texas 75287 > > 972 306-2296 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Caldera e-Server 3.1 > > Registered Linux User #193859 > > > > .~. > > / v \ > > /( _ )\ > > ^ ^ > > In Linux we trust! > > ___ > > Linux-users mailing list > > Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > > > > > -- > Ken Moffat > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Ken Well that does work, but you now get another copy of sylpheed. I need to call the composer without a new Mailer program. cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera e-Server 3.1 Registered Linux User #193859 .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
"Copernic" type Searcher in Linux?
I'm in Electronics hardware, and have been rescued on another mailing list many times by someone who uses the copernic search tool (http://www.copernic.com) This is a simple browser-like thing. It comes up with a search entry and queries all the major search engines, removes duplicates, and gives you the results. They have piles of options, and you can search specific categories (Like buying hardware). I asked them about a linux version and they more or less said "What's Linux? Oh that - NO!" It would seem easy to program in linux, but has it ever been done? Who? What? and more importantly where is it now? -- Regards, Declan Moriarty Applied Researches - Ireland's Foremost Electronic Hardware Genius A Slightly Serious(TM) Company Success covers a multitude of blunders - G.B. Shaw. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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Re: News reader
How do these compare with tin? I just downloaded and installed it. It seems to work but makes mutt look user friendly. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Q: Caldera Update script
what's up with the Permission Denied messages I get? I run this as root. Begin forwarded message: Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 10:53:41 -0500 From: "root" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Caldera Update script Sat Dec 15 10:52:25 EST 2001 - Last installed update was #000 Sat Dec 15 10:52:25 EST 2001 - Trying to find update #001 Sat Dec 15 10:52:25 EST 2001 - Attempting to retrieve update #001 10:53:40 URL: ftp://ftp.caldera.com/%2Fpub/updates/OpenLinux/3.1/Server/001/SRPMS/fetchmail-5.4.0-5a.src.rpm [731857] -> "ftp.caldera.com/pub/updates/OpenLinux/3.1/Server/001/SRPMS/fetchmail-5.4.0-5a.src.rpm" [1] FINISHED --10:53:40-- Downloaded: 1,035,920 bytes in 6 files Sat Dec 15 10:53:40 EST 2001 - Checking for retrieval success/failure Sat Dec 15 10:53:41 EST 2001 - Update #001 downloaded Sat Dec 15 10:53:41 EST 2001 - Installing fetchmail-5.4.0-5a.i386.rpm... Sat Dec 15 10:53:41 EST 2001 - ...using fetchmail-5.4.0-5a.i386.rpm /sbin/cal_up.sh: /sto/updates/OpenLinux/3.1/Server/001/RPMS/fetchmail-5.4.0-5a.i386.rpm: Permission denied Sat Dec 15 10:53:41 EST 2001 - Installing fetchmailconf-5.4.0-5a.i386.rpm... Sat Dec 15 10:53:41 EST 2001 - ...using fetchmailconf-5.4.0-5a.i386.rpm /sbin/cal_up.sh: /sto/updates/OpenLinux/3.1/Server/001/RPMS/fetchmailconf-5.4.0-5a.i386.rpm: Permission denied ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: IMPAP server configuration question
IMAP configuration, as I have found it, is nonexistent. Either you allow it or not (though your inetd config) and you control access to the service (hosts.allow and hosts.deny, I suppose iptables as well). It's essentially on or off. If I'm wrong, please tell me otherwise. I created a directory called MAIL off my user directory and it is where all my mail is stored, etc... In Sylpheed (my IMAP client) there is a configuration "IMAP server directory" which I type in "MAIL" and everything works. I believe Netscape has the same option. On Sat, 15 Dec 2001 11:04:41 -0500 "Joel Hammer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Trying to make my linux box an imap server. > It is amazingly hard to find info out about this. My Programming Internet > Mail book from O'Reilly doesn't mention anything about setting up the server. > Using the defaults, everything works fine for mail that goes to my standard mailbox, >the one in > my environmental variable MAIL. > However, I am not sure of the best way to allow for other mailboxes to be > serviced by the server, eg. how to allow the imap client to subscribe to > them. > Now, when I try to subscribe from Netscape 6.2, every file on my home > directory seems to be presented as a mail box. > So, > should I be fiddling with the client (what is user space, anyway?) or should > I fiddle with the imap server? > Joel > > > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-i-s.cc/ Linux User #185986 Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration & Support *Web Development and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: News reader
sylpheed --compose On Sat, 15 Dec 2001 11:49:01 -0600 "Richard R. Sivernell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Collins > > Using Sylpheed, How do you call the mail composer from browser? > > cheers > -- > Rick Sivernell > Dallas, Texas 75287 > 972 306-2296 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Caldera e-Server 3.1 > Registered Linux User #193859 > > .~. > / v \ > /( _ )\ > ^ ^ > In Linux we trust! > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: News reader
On Saturday 15 December 2001 12:25 pm, Joel Hammer wrote: > I have given up on netscape 6.2 as a news reader. Just not working (In my > hands). > Any suggestions for a news client? > Joel Try Knode under KDE.I find it works well. -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 12/15/01 12:57 + ++ "What happened to the first 6 "ups"?" ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: News reader
I use Sylpheed for mail and news, although the newsreader is not great, the combination is very well implemented and very fast. On Sat, 15 Dec 2001 12:25:38 -0500 Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have given up on netscape 6.2 as a news reader. Just not working (In my > hands). > Any suggestions for a news client? > Joel > > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Linux Dial-up Server
On Saturday 15 December 2001 11:45 am, Matthew Carpenter wrote: > Thanks guys! I knew asking you was the right way to go. Stew, Bruce, > thanks. > > On question- Bruce, does the Moxa require 2.4.16? Or would a 2.4.2 stock > W3.1 kernel do just fine? When I do things for clients, I try to stick to > the KISS principle and right now, that's COL3.1 with a modified Hunley > update script. The version I have didn't support 3.1, since Caldera threw > in the additional "Server" or "Workstation" in their ftp path. You'd think > they didn't WANT the script to work, or that they don't pay attention to > their install-base... Either could be made arguments for. a) I had it working user 2.2.x with Caldera eD2.4 (using drivers that came with it) b) When I moved to SuSE 7.2 with the 2.4.4 kernel, I think I had problems but the board was new to me and I had to get a new set of drivers from Moxa. (I still have the driver if you want it) The kernel code might have worked but I was used to using the driver from moxa and didn't give the kernel a chance. c) Somewhere around 2.4.10 or so, the kernel code worked and that's what I am using now. When you install a serial board like this, you have to define or re-define the /dev/ ports for it. For example, I am using /dev/ttyMxx which is what the kernel wants to see but if you have an app that wants ttySxx, then just symlink it to the ttyMxx. Works fine. BTW, I got the idea for the moxa board from an advertisement in Linux Journal. Bought it from a company down near Cleveland if I recall. I might be able to dig up the name if you're interested. It's a PCI board BTW. ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 12/15/01 12:48 + ++ "'SEX' is nothing but 'LOVE' misunderstood." ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: News reader
Collins Using Sylpheed, How do you call the mail composer from browser? cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera e-Server 3.1 Registered Linux User #193859 .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: News reader
On Sat, 15 Dec 2001 12:25:38 -0500 Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have given up on netscape 6.2 as a news reader. Just not working > (In my > hands). > Any suggestions for a news client? > Joel I use sylpheed for everything email related, but I've never tried the news-reader stuff. YMMV -- Collins Richey Denver Area - 12DEC2001 - WWTLRD? gentoo_rc6 k2.4.17-pre8+ext3+xfce+sylpheed+galeon ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: News reader
On Sat, 15 Dec 2001 12:25:38 -0500 Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have given up on netscape 6.2 as a news reader. Just not working (In my > hands). > Any suggestions for a news client? > Joel > Sylpheed comes to mind. It's not full featured like I would like it, but it works well. The other possibility is AGENT... They are windows applications that run perfectly under wine on linux. I've used it on a number of systems, reliable, fast, etc.. That's about it for GUI readers... for CLI I would recommend SLRN. Either of the 4 mentioned newsreaders have the ability to be accessed by a number of clients. The weaker of the 3 is AGENT as I haven't been able to get it to automatically download new usenet messages. Anyways, you can setup any of the above offline newreaders on a server somewhere and access it over a network using nfs shares. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux 12:40pm up 13 days, 23:41, 3 users, load average: 0.03, 0.03, 0.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
News reader
I have given up on netscape 6.2 as a news reader. Just not working (In my hands). Any suggestions for a news client? Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: su in script
from Dave Anselmi: " Is your script a "connect to the 'net" script? You might describe It en/dis/ables lan and dialup on my old 486 firewall box. Diald handles the dialup connection well enough tho not perfectly. I'm moving some hard drives and maybe other hardware around tho so I don't want to do too much until the hardware setup is pretty well stable (does this ever happen?). " what it does a little more - maybe your problem is already solved by " someone more experienced than me (ppp dial-up for example). There's really only three lines of any significance. They resemble (from memory): ifconfig eth0 up/down ifconfig eth1 up/down echo "up/down/quit" > /etc/diald/diald.ctl The ifconfig lines wouldn't run except as root, why I don't know, and I didn't want to take the time to find out because of the hardware swaps coming up. And, it seems, scripts are not supposed to be able to run suid root. I know all of this would be dead simple if I had some real knowledge of linux, but I don't, so I have to just muddle along and learn as I go. Anyway, it's working well enough now, at least for the moment. " I don't recall a no password option to sudo, though there might be The sudo docs make mention of 'no password' config options or some such. I haven't dug into it far enough to know for sure if it'll do what I wanted, tho. " one. But of course you have to lock down what it can do in that case yup. " (e.g. don't give permission to run a script to someone who can edit " the script). There's a discussion of some of the (many) security issues on the web site. I wouldn't want to get too casual about any of them but a quick first glance suggests most wouldn't be applicable in my situation. R ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Linux Dial-up Server
Thanks guys! I knew asking you was the right way to go. Stew, Bruce, thanks. On question- Bruce, does the Moxa require 2.4.16? Or would a 2.4.2 stock W3.1 kernel do just fine? When I do things for clients, I try to stick to the KISS principle and right now, that's COL3.1 with a modified Hunley update script. The version I have didn't support 3.1, since Caldera threw in the additional "Server" or "Workstation" in their ftp path. You'd think they didn't WANT the script to work, or that they don't pay attention to their install-base... Either could be made arguments for. On Fri, 14 Dec 2001 23:20:24 -0500 "Matthew Carpenter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks, Chang. Actually that's the first place I normally go. The problem is that >there is no hardware listed. What do I buy if I want to have say 8 modems? Or 4? >What are others using? > > Does Digiboard work with Linux and is it the best for Linux like it is for Win? > > On Sat, 15 Dec 2001 11:31:34 +0800 > "Chang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > check http://linux.nf > > bill parker's article in ppp section. > > > > Matthew Carpenter wrote: > > > > > > I am interested in what people are using for Linux dial-up servers these days. >I have a mid-sized company interested in providing dialup for their users and I need >to put together a proposal soon. Rather than investigate all the options, I thought >I'd ask people who do it already. > > > > -- > > The pivotal point is the "second chance", judged by another set of > > criteria. In Linux We Trust -- http://linux.nf > > > > _ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > ___ > > Linux-users mailing list > > Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > > > -- > Matthew Carpenter > [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-i-s.cc/ > Linux User #185986 > Enterprise Information Systems > *Network Consulting, Integration & Support > *Web Development and E-Business -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-i-s.cc/ Linux User #185986 Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration & Support *Web Development and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
IMPAP server configuration question
Trying to make my linux box an imap server. It is amazingly hard to find info out about this. My Programming Internet Mail book from O'Reilly doesn't mention anything about setting up the server. Using the defaults, everything works fine for mail that goes to my standard mailbox, the one in my environmental variable MAIL. However, I am not sure of the best way to allow for other mailboxes to be serviced by the server, eg. how to allow the imap client to subscribe to them. Now, when I try to subscribe from Netscape 6.2, every file on my home directory seems to be presented as a mail box. So, should I be fiddling with the client (what is user space, anyway?) or should I fiddle with the imap server? Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Linux Dial-up Server
On Fri, 14 Dec 2001, Matthew Carpenter wrote: > Thanks, Chang. Actually that's the first place I normally go. The problem is that >there is no hardware listed. What do I buy if I want to have say 8 modems? Or 4? >What are others using? > > Does Digiboard work with Linux and is it the best for Linux like it is for Win? > > On Sat, 15 Dec 2001 11:31:34 +0800 > "Chang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > check http://linux.nf > > bill parker's article in ppp section. > > > > Matthew Carpenter wrote: > > > > > > I am interested in what people are using for Linux dial-up servers these days. >I have a mid-sized company interested in providing dialup for their users and I need >to put together a proposal soon. Rather than investigate all the options, I thought >I'd ask people who do it already. > > > > -- I've got a Comtrol Rocketport that works nicely, and Cyclades has supported Linux for a long time. These are intelligent boards with their own processors and mux, so you don't have to worry about interrupts and such. If you want something more at the ISP level, a lot of folks use Livingston Portmaster 2E, but I see now there's radius software out there to give you similar capability using one of the above cards. Stew Benedict ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: laptops
On Saturday 15 December 2001 01:55, you wrote: > It looks like we'll be able to buy a Linux laptop next year at work. Any > recommendations? I thought IBM had them, but I couldn't find it on their > site anymore. Dell seem good and have few mentions on problem lists - Thinkpads are fine, except for apm, which is a disaster area. If the company is buying, how about Toshiba? Siemens are coming in with cheap offerings if your boss is a cheapskate, and HP stand out for battery life. Options are fewer here. There's a linux laptop page with links on just about everything, and pages by guys who own one and praise or attack it. -- Regards, Declan Moriarty Applied Researches - Ireland's Foremost Electronic Hardware Genius A Slightly Serious(TM) Company Success covers a multitude of blunders - G.B. Shaw. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: Re: Cable Modem Speed
Dave, Thanks for that answer and explanation. I am satisfied with how it is set now that I know. Best Regards, Keith B. Dave Anselmi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> If there are any, any economical recommendations for faster cable modem >> that will work under Linux? (I currently have a Toshiba PCX1000 -nonUSB) > >No, somewhere between you and the 'net there will be a bottleneck. If it isn't >the 10Mbps going into your cable modem, then it's the <10Mbps coming out of >it. The 10Mbps between your router and modem shouldn't slow anything down (and >obviously shouldn't be shared with anything else, for reasons other than >bandwidth). > >The rest of your network can use 100Mbps happily. 100Mbps hardware is as cheap >as 10Mbps, so there's no reason to buy slower (but no reason to throw out >slower, either - just don't put it where it slows everything down). > >Dave > > >___ >Linux-users mailing list >Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: Re: Cable Modem Speed
Thanks Ian, dunno much about these cable modems. Picked up one dirt cheap -- used computer store -- for $25.00, just had to buy a power supply - $14 at Radio Shack. Has been running for months. Was just wondering as I get sometimes download speeds equal to my old dialup. But then again, have downloaded iso's under Netscrape 6.1 @ 146.2 k/sec (?) - getting a 680M iso in about one hour. (Only between 0200-0800 EST). Best Regards, Keith B. Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> Hello All, >> >> This probably a dumb question, but here goes: >> >> Do all cable modems run @ 10Base-T or are there some that run @ 100baseTx >> FD? I have a home net of 10/100 NIC card PC's, but jsut noticed that my >> cable modem is only rated @ 10Base-T. Am I wasting the 100 mbps speed since >> my cable modem is only 10BaseT? My SuSE router PC has 2 NIC, one LNE100TX >> that uses the tulip driver and a rtl8139-based NIC. The LNE100TX is con- >> nected to the cable modem, will run @ 100 mbps, but goes to 10BaseT due to >> the modem. Then rtl8139 connects to the home lan via 10/100 N-WAY switch >> and happily churns along @ 100 mbps. > >If you have more than one machine in your network, and they communicate >at 100Mbps, then no, it's not a waste IMHO. But if you went looking for >100Mbps on purpose, hoping to get a 100Mbps connection through your >cable modem, you'll be disappointed. I've not heard of any cable >internet provider that runs at even 10Mbps (not saying there are none, >only none that I know of). Most of the time the best you can hope for >is a few (read 2 - 5) Mbps. > >I you really want a 100Mbps pipe, you're gonna hafta cough a lot more a >month than you do for cable internet. >-- >Linux SxS [http://hal.humberc.on.ca/~mrcn0031/sxs/] >___ >Linux-users mailing list >Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
