Re: Re[1] OpenUnix vs OpenLinux
On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 08:32:48 -0500 patrick kapturkiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | I thank you Roger for your thoughts, | Our will is Data Base Server with Oracle. | Account, pay ... applications are Windoze applications on | windoze workstations. | Platform Windoze use W2K server and sqlserver. | I want add for our customers a new choice with Unix/Linux | server and Oracle, where windows manager isn't so important. | But Oracle doesn't exist for OpenUnix. We can install Linux What? Oracle exists for UW/OU. Maybe Oracle still call it UnixWare 7. OpenUnix 8 IS UnixWare 7. In fact, a recent update for OU8 allows it to report that it is UW7 to software that may actively check this. Who said Oracle is not available? I kind of suspected that Oracle was one of the main apps run on UnixWare/OpenUnix. Of course, as I don't use Oracle, maybe my info out of date. But there are always all these PTFs that say they are to improve Oracle this and Oracle that. Are there any specific Linux services that you would use that don't exist on OpenUnix? I think they are quite similiar, especially when it comes to providing services to windows clients. In my book, it comes down to how much you want/need to play under the hood and how much you can spend. We like to tinker, and we would prefer that if our customers shell out cash, it is for products/services WE earn on... | Oracle 8i. I tested it and it works well on OpenUnix. | I tested webmin, Samba on OpenUnix, they work well. And | finally I tested vncserver and fvwm on OpenUnix and they | work well. But all these products are Linux products and | I'd a doubt on the real opportunity of OpenUnix usage. | | For the moment, with your advice, OpenUnix is winning 2 | goals to 0. | Thanks again. | | Patrick | | ---Message d'origine--- | De : Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Date : 24/01/2002 10:33:51 | | I think it depends on your use. | | OpenUnix is a server OS. We don't need all that server | stuff. OpenUnix does | not have a very good desktop. | __ | E-mail gratuit - Multimania - http://www.multimania.fr | | -- = Roger Oberholtzer E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OPQ Systems AB WWW: http://www.opq.se Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 115 32 Stockholm Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 Sweden Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Fwd: Mail System Error - Returned Mail
He posted it wrong, its hyphens instead of underlines. [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thursday 24 January 2002 22:05, you were heard blurting out: Well thats one way of saying, Ferget it! Bounce the mail grin -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Mail System Error - Returned Mail Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 07:48:10 +1000 From: Mail Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason: Each of the following recipients was rejected by a remote mail server. The reasons given by the server are included to help you determine why each recipient was rejected. Recipient: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reason:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Recipient unknown Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you feel this message to be in error. Reporting-MTA: dns; mta01bw.bigpond.com Received-From-MTA:dns; there (144.135.24.72) Arrival-Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 07:40:45 +1000 Remote-Recipient: rfc822;[EMAIL PROTECTED] Diagnostic-Code: smtp;551 SMTP-Deliver:BadRecipient Action: failed Status: 5.1.6 Remote-MTA: DNS;mail.pdahandyman.com Last-Attempt-Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 07:48:10 +1000 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from there ([144.135.24.72]) by mta01bw.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GQEUVX00.5SR for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 07:40:45 +1000 Received: from CPE-203-45-140-190.qld.bigpond.net.au ([203.45.140.190]) by bwmam02.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V3.0h 11/2327535); 24 Jan 2002 07:33:37 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: what no subject? Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 07:33:40 +1000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Keith Antoine Brisbane OZ. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage --- -- Bill Day ( a.k.a. BadMan )188133 http://counter.li.org #linux-users irc.openprojects.net:6667 Our crystal tears now fall upon the ashes, but from the dust shall grow a spirit, to be in compassion for those who are lost, and one in determination to break those who dare test our resolve to be free... 9/11/01 http://www.daysdomain.com/tribute.html 4:30am up 176 days, 19:24, 15 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
RE: OTinterest in an annual SxS get-together?
Skippy mate I will visit ya one day :) Romio -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Keith Antoine Sent: Friday, 25 January 2002 1:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OTinterest in an annual SxS get-together? On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 17:34,Lavinius Romio Petru scribed: Where ever it might be count me in as I need a Holliday and ummdo they have JimBeam and nice woman in Afganistan? Lavinius Romio Petru Network Administrator www.rom-tech.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Brisbane, Australia, Springwood exit off the highway two lefts ..three rights pass the roundabout and 5th house on yer right Hell! yer half way to the Gold Coast from me. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage smime.p7s Description: application/pkcs7-signature
Re: problem for non Linux users - Windoze users
-Original Message- From: Rick Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 22:38:43 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: problem for non Linux users - Windoze users Tom I was in class last night myself. A programming course, and the machines they are going to use are linux. Now the Prof said you can use any languag and any OS. He uses linux and c++, if you need help from him, well you need to do as he does. One guy complained that he just bought a new machine and was planning to put Mandrake on it. He has said that he has tried 2 times and it fails to install. He would prefer to use Borland c++. He and many others complained that they really did not know unix/linux. The Prof told the class you were sused to learn that in the early courses and this course assumes you do. After class over I said I would teach them how to do what they needed to know. Of course for a price. They for most part turned it down, so far. This will be grear. Hell 15 years ago they taught Unix, it was required. Some will have a tough time on their project. A c++ program that outputs a script to a web browser. This class should be fun, for me. Some people just don't want to be enlightened. It seems to me that you would definitely want to work on the same platform as you Professor. And if they didn't learn the Unix/Linux in the first class, what hell did they do? Sleep? rant on If it is like my school , even though is says you have to have class abc as a prereq to the upper level class, they never enforce it. I have missed several advanced classes I need because they were full because of this reason. Even the ones I have got into, you can tell the people who didn't take the prereq's because the all drop 2 weeks into the term. I hate that, we have a limited numbers of seats in the computer classes, they get filled by lusers who drop the class early, and by the end of the term there are only 6 or 7 people out of 25 left. If they would in enforce the prereq's all the people who need the class could actually get into it for the get go. rant off -- Tom Wilson -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: problem for non Linux users - Windoze users
On Friday 25 January 2002 07:23 am, Tom Wilson wrote: -Original Message- rant on If it is like my school , even though is says you have to have class abc as a prereq to the upper level class, they never enforce it. I have missed several advanced classes I need because they were full because of this reason. Even the ones I have got into, you can tell the people who didn't take the prereq's because the all drop 2 weeks into the term. I hate that, we have a limited numbers of seats in the computer classes, they get filled by lusers who drop the class early, and by the end of the term there are only 6 or 7 people out of 25 left. If they would in enforce the prereq's all the people who need the class could actually get into it for the get go. rant off That's where a strong teacher/parent auxhillary makes a big dif. Here in Westbank, they have an individual who ensures that you have satisfied all pre-requ's prior to attending them. All the schools my two have gone to (Westbank BC, Edmonton Ab and Norman Wells NWT) have strongly enforced the pre-req per courses. If I were going to your school and lost out on a course because the seets were taken up by a bunch of lusers would result in a strong protest in writing to school principal with cc's to every government official that has anyting to do with education. If you have not done this then you deserve to miss out on courses that you would like to attend. If you are waiting for someone else to do it for you it won't happen! If you are put off on missing out on courses then I would sugest that you have a good look into a mirror, because there looking back at you is the reason why -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OTopinions on hostway.com services?
David Aikema babbled on about: On January 24, 2002 05:05 am, Douglas J Hunley wrote: anyone? I'd suggest asking at http://www.webhostingtalk.com great! thanks much -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf Let just be honest, and admit that it wasn't designed. - Linus ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: another xfree 4.2.0 gotcha
Myles Green babbled on about: On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 20:04:27 -0500 Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: noticing on the kde lists a lot of people complaining about ugly/messed up fonts after upgrading. seems that the new 4.2.0 of xfree86 contains new fonts and some old fonts have new names... watch out everyone I've been running XF86-4.2 for about 2.5 or 3 days now without any of the problems (touch wood) that have been brought up on the list lately. One thing I do that may be different is: I grab the MS webfonts from microsoft.com and mostly use those. For the record though, I do see some errors listed in the logs (I just looked now ;) pertaining to certain font paths and the disabling of the offending ones but it/they don't seem to be a problem here. Am I just lucky or what? I didn't get burned by any of the font issues either (I have my own custom /etc/X11/XftConfig file) It just seemed to be a big thread on the kde lists, so I thought I'd forwarn people. I got bit by the ATI synch thing. But that was an easy fix. -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf Vote anarchist. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
hey Bandel! (was Re: BIND 9.x: Part II)
Bill Day babbled on about: The secret for the example and then having secret in the named.conf, rndc.conf and rndc.key I replaced all the 'secrets with the pass and then also replaced all the quoted spots next to it with my output from encode, as soon as I returned it to secret and left the output from the pass and mmencode it fired up. OIC. You changed the secret c2VjcmV0; in /etc/named.conf and actually changed the word secret. you should only change the value inside the quotes. I'll change the page to make it more clear and use a different example. Jan 23 15:24:56 linuxbox named[20466]: Jan 23 15:24:56.504general: error: dns_master_load: pz/127.0.0:3: no current owner name It still has the 'no owner' problem and 'no current owner'. I have no idea on this one. Perhaps David knows? Should I be starting named as named or root? This is the command I'm using to start it: /usr/sbin/named -u named #assuming this is starting it as named already.. anyother ideas? this is correct. it starts up as root, then switches to named. it is the correct way -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf /* After several hours of tedious analysis, the following hash * function won. Do not mess with it... -DaveM */ 2.2.16 /usr/src/linux/fs/buffer.c ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Modems
-Original Message- From: zohar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 12:45:42 +0530 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Modems I want to know how to distinguish between (1)external (internal or real modem), Um, I not sure what you are asking here. Not being a smart @$$ but an external modem is one that is outside the pc case and an internal modem is a pc card. If it is an ISA internal it *should* be a *real* modem. PCI modems are mostly winmodems. (2)Winmodem, If you have a windoze machine, look in the device manager under modems. If it says anything like HST or HCP(???) it is a software(winmodem) modem. (3)AMR modem, I don't about these particular modems. Never heard of them until the thread on this list a week or so ago. and any other types by signs of it in hardware and software(operating system) As a general rule, if it is an internal modem AND has jumpers on it, it is usually a hardware(real) modem. and AT commands of it to use for that. Can I get a complete explanation of the site(s) describing the details completely. Which are they? Try www.linmodems.org -- Tom Wilson -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
RE: problem for non Linux users - Windoze users
This is interesting. That's not the way things are done here at all. I'm not saying it's not a good idea, I've just never heard of it before. I took a number of classes for which I hadn't fulfilled any of the prereq's and it didn't cost me a thing. Intro to Computers was a required course, but I took it last because it was a waste of my time. I had already been tech support for several years by then. In truth, I taught myself more hacking on my High School's PC's than was taught in that allegedly college-level course. OTOH, I wasn't dumb enough to try to take Programming 2 before Programming 1. That's just counter productive. I had several methods for getting what I wanted out of school: 1) Take it at night. The instructors understand that people who take night classes have real jobs and lives. Class sizes are smaller, and classes are easier to get into. Also, the students are much more serious about it or they wouldn't be there. They'd be out partying with everybody else. More difficult if you have a nighttime job, of course. 2) Go backwards. Upperclassmen get priority in scheduling, so classes that have lots of people registering for them should be taken later if possible. Take the less popular ones first, that way you can get into the popular ones when you have more credits, and thus higher priority. Made easier if they don't check pre-reqs and you know there are a few you can skip without it hurting you. 3) Use the system to your advantage. When I couldn't get the schedule I wanted, I took independent study courses designed to substitute for the in-class stuff. If you find the right instructor you can usually arrange this as long as you state up front that it's to replace the other course so they know what you have in mind. If you do it the way they tell you to, it's a real hassle. If you work the system properly, most of the time it can be made to work for you. If you find your school to be inflexible there's lots of competition, and it might not hurt to remind them of that under certain circumstances. -Original Message- From: Ted Ozolins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 8:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: problem for non Linux users - Windoze users On Friday 25 January 2002 07:23 am, Tom Wilson wrote: -Original Message- rant on If it is like my school , even though is says you have to have class abc as a prereq to the upper level class, they never enforce it. I have missed several advanced classes I need because they were full because of this reason. Even the ones I have got into, you can tell the people who didn't take the prereq's because the all drop 2 weeks into the term. I hate that, we have a limited numbers of seats in the computer classes, they get filled by lusers who drop the class early, and by the end of the term there are only 6 or 7 people out of 25 left. If they would in enforce the prereq's all the people who need the class could actually get into it for the get go. rant off That's where a strong teacher/parent auxhillary makes a big dif. Here in Westbank, they have an individual who ensures that you have satisfied all pre-requ's prior to attending them. All the schools my two have gone to (Westbank BC, Edmonton Ab and Norman Wells NWT) have strongly enforced the pre-req per courses. If I were going to your school and lost out on a course because the seets were taken up by a bunch of lusers would result in a strong protest in writing to school principal with cc's to every government official that has anyting to do with education. If you have not done this then you deserve to miss out on courses that you would like to attend. If you are waiting for someone else to do it for you it won't happen! If you are put off on missing out on courses then I would sugest that you have a good look into a mirror, because there looking back at you is the reason why -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: ext3 on root partition question
Jerry McBride babbled on about: I've had the experience where a root system running ext3 was so clobbered that it had to be accessed via a boot floppy. The only rescue floppy I had on hand did not have an fsck thas was able to recover the ext3 system... Bingo... a big problem, yes? After upgrading the utils on the floppy, I was able to fsck.ext3 the partition in question and all data was recoverable. That was my point, sorry I wasn't clear enough in the begining. ah! ok. I see what you mean. I *thought* you menat the rescue floppy kernel didn't know ext3... I follow you now -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf /* * For moronic filesystems that do not allow holes in file. * We may have to extend the file. */ 2.4.0-test2 /usr/src/linux/fs/buffer.c ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: problem for non Linux users - Windoze users
-Original Message- From: Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 08:26:22 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: problem for non Linux users - Windoze users [snip of my rant] That's where a strong teacher/parent auxhillary makes a big dif. We don't have that here in colleges (at least none that I've attended). In high schools we do though. Here in Westbank, they have an individual who ensures that you have satisfied all pre-requ's prior to attending them. At my school(as with most, if not all colleges) you have an academic advisor who would do this for you. The thing is, you are generally not required to meet with you academic advisor. I've only talked to mine twice in 4 years. And once was last week because I needed to talk to him before graduation (which is next term YEAH!!!). So if you follow the guidelines and talk to you advisor before you register each term, the would have you take all prereq's first. But since I never talked to them, and obviously others don't as well, it is a free for all. All the schools my two have gone to (Westbank BC, Edmonton Ab and Norman Wells NWT) have strongly enforced the pre-req per courses. If I were going to your school and lost out on a course because the seets were taken up by a bunch of lusers would result in a strong protest in writing to school principal with cc's to every government official that has anyting to do with education. If you have not done this then you deserve to miss out on courses that you would like to attend. If you are waiting for someone else to do it for you it won't happen! If you are put off on missing out on courses then I would sugest that you have a good look into a mirror, because there looking back at you is the reason why I would say I have only been minorly inconvienced by this. Any class I've missed because of it I was able to get another term and I never missed any school terms because of it. I was able to get into other classes I needed. Now if it affected my graduation, which it doesn't, then a strongly worded letter to the Dean would result. Although it irks me, it doesn't irk me that much as to write a letter to the Dean with cc's to my government representatives. I don't think the government really has any control over the class situation even from state funded school. I have heard of other students who have brought this up to school officials but I have seen no action (yet) because of their complaints. I have heard that something was going to be done though, just never when it was going to be done. And now I don't really care since I won't be there after next term. -- Tom Wilson -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
code red retals
I cant sem to find the old copy of the code red retaliation I had. However, a quick search on google.com for code red counter and/or nimda counter turns up plenty of links to code to turn an attacking machine into the one being attacked -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf printk(CPU[|d]: Sending penguins to jail...,smp_processor_id()); 2.4.8 arch/sparc64/kernel/smp.c ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: printer in Suse 7.3
What does your printcap look like? I am running SuSE 7.3. I don't have a printer called 'lpr' but that (lpr is the print program). Can you print to a file and then lpr the file to the right queue? Keith Antoine wrote: I have a problem with my print program in Suse and Konqueror/Kmail. when I go to print a mail out it brings up a window to print from, in ther are printer names as strings. The one I need 'lpr' is not there but 3 others are lp|lp2|y2prn_lp.vpp--auto-lp|y2prn_lp.upp auto the others are lp-asci and lp-raw None of these print of course, they just bring up an error window. Where can I edit these to lpr or whatever. It seems to be in kmail and konqueror only, I think = _ Susan Macchia mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ - Running Linux - because life is too short for reboots... __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: code red retaliations
On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 12:39:36PM -0500, Douglas J Hunley wrote: I cant sem to find the old copy of the code red retaliation I had. However, a quick search on google.com for code red counter and/or nimda counter turns up plenty of links to code to turn an attacking machine into the one being attacked -- Hmmm. I've never seriously considered doing anything like this, but I've been getting so many code red and nimda attacks that it's beginning to tempt me. However, I wonder about both the ethics and legalities of this. You know that a normal attacker is subject to legal sanctions in the USA? At least in theory, and occasionally in practice. I'm not convinced that retaliation would be a legal defense (let alone moral) for an attack, particularly on a system that was already more victim itself than a culprit. Comments? ++ kevin -- Kevin O'Gorman (805) 650-6274 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Permanent e-mail forwarder: mailto:Kevin.O'[EMAIL PROTECTED] At school: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.cs.ucsb.edu/~kogorman/index.html Web: http://kosmanor.com/~kevin/index.html Life is short; eat dessert first! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: another xfree 4.2.0 gotcha
--- Myles Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 19:15:35 -0800 (PST) Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Myles Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 20:04:27 -0500 Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: noticing on the kde lists a lot of people complaining about ugly/messed up fonts after upgrading. seems that the new 4.2.0 of xfree86 contains new fonts and some old fonts have new names... watch out everyone I've been running XF86-4.2 for about 2.5 or 3 days now without any of the problems (touch wood) that have been brought up on the list lately. One thing I do that may be different is: I grab the MS webfonts from microsoft.com and mostly use those. For the record though, I do see some errors listed in the logs (I just looked now ;) pertaining to certain font paths and the disabling of the offending ones but it/they don't seem to be a problem here. Am I just lucky or what? Other than the weird problem that i am having going directly to RL5, 4.2.0 is running flawlessly for me as well. Must be a problem with GDM (you did say that was what you were using, correct?) because I use KDM when using RL5 and haven't had any problems. Is there a quick and dirty way for me to change to using GDM so I can check it out? There gotta be a way, I used to do it with Slackware all It really depends on which distro you're running. Unless you have Gnome installed, there is no quick or easy way to get gdm. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
RE: code red retaliations
I actually wrote a script to do something like this, though I'm not sure what I did with it. I gave up on it because I felt that it was a legal risk. It wasn't destructive, just issued the beloved net stop command so the remote machine would quit attacking me. Still, a lawsuit would suck. -Original Message- From: Kevin O'Gorman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 10:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: code red retaliations On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 12:39:36PM -0500, Douglas J Hunley wrote: I cant sem to find the old copy of the code red retaliation I had. However, a quick search on google.com for code red counter and/or nimda counter turns up plenty of links to code to turn an attacking machine into the one being attacked -- Hmmm. I've never seriously considered doing anything like this, but I've been getting so many code red and nimda attacks that it's beginning to tempt me. However, I wonder about both the ethics and legalities of this. You know that a normal attacker is subject to legal sanctions in the USA? At least in theory, and occasionally in practice. I'm not convinced that retaliation would be a legal defense (let alone moral) for an attack, particularly on a system that was already more victim itself than a culprit. Comments? ++ kevin -- Kevin O'Gorman (805) 650-6274 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Permanent e-mail forwarder: mailto:Kevin.O'[EMAIL PROTECTED] At school: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.cs.ucsb.edu/~kogorman/index.html Web: http://kosmanor.com/~kevin/index.html Life is short; eat dessert first! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: another xfree 4.2.0 gotcha
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 10:02:50 -0800 (PST) Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It really depends on which distro you're running. Unless you have Gnome installed, there is no quick or easy way to get gdm. Yeah. Well, I would not have suggested it if I wasn't running something similar to you Lonnie... using RedHat 7.2 w/ gnome 1.4.1, kde 2.2.2 and xfce-3.8.14d. I mostly use XFce so I could care less which *DM I use... I'm just doing this to assist you in figuring out your problems. -- Myles Green Calgary AB Canada Alberta Linux Step by Step Mirror: http://mylesg.homelinux.net/ -- USER, n.: The word computer professionals use when they mean idiot. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
RE: problem for non Linux users - Windoze users
Rick Sivernell wrote Tom I was in class last night myself. A programming course, and the machines they are going to use are linux. Now the Prof said you can use any languag and any OS. He uses linux and c++, if you need help from him, well you need to do as he does. One guy complained that he just bought a new machine and was planning to put Mandrake on it. He has said that he has tried 2 times and it fails to install. He would prefer to use Borland c++. Hey Rick, I was surfing over at /. while at lunch today and found a link to this. You may want to show this to that guy in your class that wants to use Borland and recommend it to him :-). http://www.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/02/01/24/020124hnborland.xml -- Tom Wilson ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: code red retaliations
GREWELL, AARON babbled on about: I actually wrote a script to do something like this, though I'm not sure what I did with it. I gave up on it because I felt that it was a legal risk. It wasn't destructive, just issued the beloved net stop command so the remote machine would quit attacking me. Still, a lawsuit would suck. the script I used would turn the damn computer off... I abandoned it after a while though cause a lawsuit would definately suck.. -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf printk(MASQUERADE: No route: Rusty's brain broke!\n); 2.4.3 linux/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_MASQUERADE.c ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Mail Server?
I currently would like to set up a mail server on my internal lan. Something that would take the mail from the isp (*@ptfd.org) and then foreward to correct mailboxes on teh LAN. (eg [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]) There seem to be many alternatives. What are others using, relatively simple as I am not a guru by any means. Also can this be combined with squid? Also a web interface would be nice so members can check their e-mail from home, via ssh-vpn? Mike ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
NFS filesystem
Setting up another Fileserver, and SAMBA server. I am interested in teh most stable filesystem for this server. Reiser I have been told is not the best choice, and I have had corruption problems with it. EXT3?, or EXT2, the old standby. Mike ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: second dvd (cdrom) not seen as
On Friday 25 Jan 2002 03:35, Keith Antoine wrote: On Sun, 13 Jan 2002 20:40,Mike Andrew scribed: Second, most distros only supply /dev/scd0 and /dev/scd1. You will have to mknod /dev/scd2 yourself. Sorry about the delay but I have been busy and offlist for a few days. So what I would like from you is a howto for making the scd2 with mknod, if you have the spare time. The major minor # are 11 and 1 on my scd1. As root, do... mknod /dev/scd1 b 11 1 or mknod /dev/scd0 b 11 0 or mknod /dev/scd2 b 11 2 or mknod /dev/scd3 b 11 3 etc. -- Peter Ruskin, Wrexham, Wales. AMD Athlon XP 1600+, 512MB RAM. Registered Linux User 219434 ( see http://counter.li.org/ ). Mandrake Linux release 8.1 (Vitamin) for i586 Kernel 2.4.8-34.1mdk-win4lin, XFree86 4.1.0, patch level 21mdk. KDE: 2.2.2. Qt: 2.3.2. Up 51 minutes. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: NFS filesystem
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:52:23 -0500 Michael W. Holdeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Setting up another Fileserver, and SAMBA server. I am interested in teh most stable filesystem for this server. Reiser I have been told is not the best choice, and I have had corruption problems with it. EXT3?, or EXT2, the old standby. I've had good success with ext3. Kurt ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: another xfree 4.2.0 gotcha
--- Myles Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 10:02:50 -0800 (PST) Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It really depends on which distro you're running. Unless you have Gnome installed, there is no quick or easy way to get gdm. Yeah. Well, I would not have suggested it if I wasn't running something similar to you Lonnie... using RedHat 7.2 w/ gnome 1.4.1, kde 2.2.2 and xfce-3.8.14d. I mostly use XFce so I could care less which *DM I use... I'm just doing this to assist you in figuring out your problems. I'm running XFCE as well. I'm not 100% on what you need to do to switch login managers. I figured it out once a few months ago, but it was far from obvious. All i know is that i had to dig through the various shell scripts under /etc/X11/ to find it. __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: code red retaliations
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:42:55 -0500 Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the script I used would turn the damn computer off... I abandoned it after a while though cause a lawsuit would definately suck..-- Ayup, getting sued can ruin your whole day... Kurt ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
RE: code red retaliations
the script I used would turn the damn computer off... I abandoned it after a while though cause a lawsuit would definately suck..-- Ayup, getting sued can ruin your whole day... Gee, it just seems that there ought to be a way for someone clever to have one of those already taken over computers send out the script commands for you. They wouldn't be doing any more damage than they are now. In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord, Tom :-}) +--+ | Thomas A. Condonemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Computer Engineer phone: (360) 315-7609| | Barbershop Bass Singer Registered Linux User #154358| +--+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
RE: code red retaliations
Indeed. That way instead of being sued I could go to jail. Regardless of the realities of it, the judge isn't likely to see it my way... -Original Message- From: Condon Thomas A KPWA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 11:30 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: code red retaliations the script I used would turn the damn computer off... I abandoned it after a while though cause a lawsuit would definately suck..-- Ayup, getting sued can ruin your whole day... Gee, it just seems that there ought to be a way for someone clever to have one of those already taken over computers send out the script commands for you. They wouldn't be doing any more damage than they are now. In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord, Tom :-}) +--+ | Thomas A. Condonemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Computer Engineer phone: (360) 315-7609| | Barbershop Bass Singer Registered Linux User #154358| +--+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
RE: problem for non Linux users - Windoze users
-Original Message- From: GREWELL, AARON [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 08:49:40 -0800 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: problem for non Linux users - Windoze users This is interesting. That's not the way things are done here at all. I'm not saying it's not a good idea, I've just never heard of it before. I took a number of classes for which I hadn't fulfilled any of the prereq's and it didn't cost me a thing. Intro to Computers was a required course, but I took it last because it was a waste of my time. I had already been tech support for several years by then. In truth, I taught myself more hacking on my High School's PC's than was taught in that allegedly college-level course. OTOH, I wasn't dumb enough to try to take Programming 2 before Programming 1. That's just counter productive. I had several methods for getting what I wanted out of school: 1) Take it at night. The instructors understand that people who take night classes have real jobs and lives. Class sizes are smaller, and classes are easier to get into. Also, the students are much more serious about it or they wouldn't be there. They'd be out partying with everybody else. More difficult if you have a nighttime job, of course. I agree. That is what I have been doing. It is also why it has taken me 4 years to get a 2 year degree. :-) 2) Go backwards. Upperclassmen get priority in scheduling, so classes that have lots of people registering for them should be taken later if possible. Take the less popular ones first, that way you can get into the popular ones when you have more credits, and thus higher priority. Made easier if they don't check pre-reqs and you know there are a few you can skip without it hurting you. I did something along those lines. Basically I took most of my non computer class first. 3) Use the system to your advantage. When I couldn't get the schedule I wanted, I took independent study courses designed to substitute for the in-class stuff. If you find the right instructor you can usually arrange this as long as you state up front that it's to replace the other course so they know what you have in mind. I had to fill out this class sub form to graduate. I took a few class on the newer curriculum and had to sub those in for ones on my old cirriculum that weren't offered as much. If you do it the way they tell you to, it's a real hassle. If you work the system properly, most of the time it can be made to work for you. If you find your school to be inflexible there's lots of competition, and it might not hurt to remind them of that under certain circumstances. -- Tom Wilson -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: NFS filesystem
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:52:23 -0500 Michael W. Holdeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Setting up another Fileserver, and SAMBA server. I am interested in teh most stable filesystem for this server. Reiser I have been told is not the best choice, and I have had corruption problems with it. EXT3?, or EXT2, the old standby. Of all the filesystems you have access to, ext2 will be the BEST performer and the most stable of them all. The only hitch with using it is the long wait for fsck on large partitions. If you don't mind the wait, then this is probably your best choice. If your server isn't running on a UPS, then using one of the journalling file systems is probably a smart idea. XFS would be my choice, followed by ext3. Beware though... no matter what you hear, concerning how good the performance is with a journaled fs, there is definitely a performance hit in using them. In particular I can cry like a baby about how slow nfs runs across ext3. It really is that bad. ;') I'm not a linux guru by any measure, but my experience would recommend the following. Use ext2 on the server with a fully implemented UPS and run samba for file sharing. While NFS has been around for a long time, it comes no where's near samba in performance. On the other hand, samba can be a nightmare to setup if you don't have prior experience, while nfs is almost a breeze to setup. Cheers. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: hey Bandel! (was Re: BIND 9.x: Part II)
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:42:20 -0500 Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the bitstream: Bill Day babbled on about: The secret for the example and then having secret in the named.conf, rndc.conf and rndc.key I replaced all the 'secrets with the pass and then also replaced all the quoted spots next to it with my output from encode, as soon as I returned it to secret and left the output from the pass and mmencode it fired up. OIC. You changed the secret c2VjcmV0; in /etc/named.conf and actually changed the word secret. you should only change the value inside the quotes. I'll change the page to make it more clear and use a different example. Jan 23 15:24:56 linuxbox named[20466]: Jan 23 15:24:56.504general: error: dns_master_load: pz/127.0.0:3: no current owner name It still has the 'no owner' problem and 'no current owner'. I have no idea on this one. Perhaps David knows? post your SOA (dig domain.dom SOA or dig -x IP SOA). I suspect your authority section is hosed. Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto Internet (H323) phone: 206.28.187.30 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: another xfree 4.2.0 gotcha
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:11:13 -0800 (PST) Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Myles Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 10:02:50 -0800 (PST) Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It really depends on which distro you're running. Unless you have Gnome installed, there is no quick or easy way to get gdm. Yeah. Well, I would not have suggested it if I wasn't running something similar to you Lonnie... using RedHat 7.2 w/ gnome 1.4.1, kde 2.2.2 and xfce-3.8.14d. I mostly use XFce so I could care less which *DM I use... I'm just doing this to assist you in figuring out your problems. I'm running XFCE as well. I'm not 100% on what you need to do to switch login managers. I figured it out once a few months ago, but it was far from obvious. All i know is that i had to dig through the various shell scripts under /etc/X11/ to find it. OK, I'll poke around and see what I can find under /etc/X11 - we were given the rest of the day off due to a snow storm so I'll have time to play with this ;) I know that with Debian all I had to do was apt-get install gdm (IIRC) and it removed kdm and installed gdm whereas Slackware required me to edit one of the startup scripts. I'll get back to you in a couple of hours on this. -- Myles Green Calgary AB Canada Alberta Linux Step by Step Mirror: http://mylesg.homelinux.net/ -- USER, n.: The word computer professionals use when they mean idiot. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
RE: problem for non Linux users - Windoze users
I agree. That is what I have been doing. It is also why it has taken me 4 years to get a 2 year degree. :-) Been there. I did something along those lines. Basically I took most of my non computer class first. I actually took some of my upper-level CS courses first. It helped a lot. By the time I got to Math 101 and English 101 I was third-year (of a two-year degree, that's what I get for changing my mind) and nobody except the professional students had more priority. I had to fill out this class sub form to graduate. I took a few class on the newer curriculum and had to sub those in for ones on my old cirriculum that weren't offered as much. I actually had to re-take all my basic programming classes when I went to a four-year because of that. They switched from Pascal to C. Doh! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: another xfree 4.2.0 gotcha
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 15:21:55 -0700 Myles Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:11:13 -0800 (PST) Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm running XFCE as well. I'm not 100% on what you need to do to switch login managers. I figured it out once a few months ago, but it was far from obvious. All i know is that i had to dig through the various shell scripts under /etc/X11/ to find it. OK, I'll poke around and see what I can find under /etc/X11 - we were given the rest of the day off due to a snow storm so I'll have time to play with this ;) I know that with Debian all I had to do was apt-get install gdm (IIRC) and it removed kdm and installed gdm whereas Slackware required me to edit one of the startup scripts. I'll get back to you in a couple of hours on this. OK, this was pretty simple actually, /etc/X11/prefdm points the way. In /etc/sysconfig/desktop you'll find either DESKTOP=KDE or DESKTOP=GNOME, whichever one you have dictates which DM you get - KDE gets you KDM and GNOME gets you GDM. FWIW, I changed mine so I got GDM in RL5 and was able to login to XFce, the only thing I can find wrong is the system sounds are completely FUBAR'd (much like what unshielded sparkplug cables do for a car radio). So, now we need to figure out what's different with X between your system and mine... -- Myles Green Calgary AB Canada Alberta Linux Step by Step Mirror: http://mylesg.homelinux.net/ -- USER, n.: The word computer professionals use when they mean idiot. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: another xfree 4.2.0 gotcha
--- Myles Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, this was pretty simple actually, /etc/X11/prefdm points the way. In /etc/sysconfig/desktop you'll find either DESKTOP=KDE or DESKTOP=GNOME, whichever one you have dictates which DM you get - KDE gets you KDM and GNOME gets you GDM. FWIW, I changed mine so I got GDM in RL5 and was able to login to XFce, the only thing I can find wrong is the system sounds are completely FUBAR'd (much like what unshielded sparkplug cables do for a car radio). So, now we need to figure out what's different with X between your system and mine... Did you build 4.2.0 from source, or install the binaries? Mine was from source. My system is mostly RH-7.1 stuff, with some older 6.2 here there, and a very small amount of 7.2 packages. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: another xfree 4.2.0 gotcha
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 15:08:20 -0800 (PST) Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Myles Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, this was pretty simple actually, /etc/X11/prefdm points the way. In /etc/sysconfig/desktop you'll find either DESKTOP=KDE or DESKTOP=GNOME, whichever one you have dictates which DM you get - KDE gets you KDM and GNOME gets you GDM. FWIW, I changed mine so I got GDM in RL5 and was able to login to XFce, the only thing I can find wrong is the system sounds are completely FUBAR'd (much like what unshielded sparkplug cables do for a car radio). So, now we need to figure out what's different with X between your system and mine... Did you build 4.2.0 from source, or install the binaries? Mine was from source. My system is mostly RH-7.1 stuff, with some older 6.2 here there, and a very small amount of 7.2 packages. I built 4.2.0 from source as well. My system is mostly RH-7.2 with any newer packages all built from source (into rpms and installed that way whenever possible). Did you reconfigure X after installing 4.2.0 or keep your old config? (I kept the old one myself) I'll send you whichever config files you'd like to see (off list) if you think it would help at all. -- Myles Green Calgary AB Canada Alberta Linux Step by Step Mirror: http://mylesg.homelinux.net/ -- USER, n.: The word computer professionals use when they mean idiot. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: another xfree 4.2.0 gotcha
--- Myles Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 15:08:20 -0800 (PST) Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you build 4.2.0 from source, or install the binaries? Mine was from source. My system is mostly RH-7.1 stuff, with some older 6.2 here there, and a very small amount of 7.2 packages. I built 4.2.0 from source as well. My system is mostly RH-7.2 with any newer packages all built from source (into rpms and installed that way whenever possible). Did you reconfigure X after installing 4.2.0 or keep your old config? (I kept the old one myself) I'll send you whichever config files you'd like to see (off list) if you think it would help at all. I tried both my old XF86Config and then just for giggles, generated a new one. Both produced the same end result (X works, just not RL5). = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re OpenUnix vs OpenLinux
There is no more oracle's version for Unixware 7.11. The last version was Oracle8 v.8.0.4. There'll be no version for OpenUnix because you may install linux version on it (sic Oracle). I want absolutely Oracle 8i or 9i and these versions exist only for linux (never for UW). Patrick ---Message d'origine--- De : Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date : 25/01/2002 10:10:33 What? Oracle exists for UW/OU. Maybe Oracle still call it UnixWare 7. OpenUnix 8 IS UnixWare 7. In fact, a recent update for OU8 allows it to report that it is UW7 to software that may actively check this. __ E-mail gratuit - Multimania - http://www.multimania.fr
IBM Unveils First Linux-Only Mainframes
From: http://news.iwon.com/home/technology/tech_article/0,2109,195719|technology|0 1-25-2002::00:18|reuters,00.html IBM Unveils First Linux-Only Mainframes January 25, 2002 12:07 am EST ARMONK, N.Y. (Reuters) - International Business Machines Corp. (IBM.N) on Friday said it is launching its first mainframe computers that will only run Linux, saying the alternative operating system is gaining ground as companies tighten purse-strings in the tough economy. IBM said the two new machines, the iSeries for small businesses and the more powerful and costly zSeries, can replace racks of smaller server computers made by rivals like Dell Computer Corp. (DELL.O) and Sun Microsystems Inc. (SUNW.O). This is really a first for IBM. It is the first time we are introducing new mainframe technology designed for Linux and server consolidation. This is really the first pure Linux mainframe, Peter McCaffrey, director of product marketing for the machines, said in an interview. The support for Linux comes as IBM is seeing a resurgence in mainframe sales. IBM mainframes, large, multi-processor machines, ruled the computing world in the 1960s and '70s but were usurped by cheaper PCs and servers. Yet IBM says the business is once again booming as companies find it is costly to link dozens or even hundreds of servers together to meet their corporate networking needs. The Armonk, New York-based company says its eServer zSeries mainframes have been the fastest-growing platform in the industry and the only one to post five consecutive quarters of growth. IBM has offered Linux as an alternative platform on its mainframes for some time, and says Linux accounts for 11 percent of the computing capacity, as measured in millions of instructions per second, it shipped in its last quarter. But the new products are its first Linux-only mainframes. It (Linux) is becoming an important and growing part of the overall mainframe business. Many IT organizations are cutting costs, and what they found is they can use the mainframe to cut costs by sweeping the floor of the Dell-Intel or Sun-Unix servers, McCaffrey said. The lower-end iSeries could replace up to 15 regular servers and would cost around $50,000, while the powerful zSeries could replace hundreds of servers and would cost about $400,000, McCaffrey said. He said that compares with an average mainframe cost of about $750,000. The mainframes would also be configured so technicians with little or no experience on traditional IBM mainframes could easily set them up, McCaffrey said. It does allow us to reach different customer sets and different audiences that we couldn't reach with traditional full-blown mainframes, McCaffrey said. We've really hidden and eliminated the complexities sometimes associated with that and made it more of a load-and-go package. 1x1.gif Description: GIF image
Re: hey Bandel! (was Re: BIND 9.x: Part II)
; DiG 9.2.0 daysdomain.com ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 53641 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;daysdomain.com.IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: daysdomain.com. 15 IN A 63.140.120.51 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: daysdomain.com. 109908 IN NS NS1.DNS2GO.com. daysdomain.com. 109908 IN NS NS2.DNS2GO.com. ;; Query time: 244 msec ;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1) ;; WHEN: Fri Jan 25 19:50:35 2002 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 91 host ns1.dns2go.com ns1.dns2go.com has address 63.64.164.8 host ns2.dns2go.com ns2.dns2go.com has address 63.149.6.93 post your SOA (dig domain.dom SOA or dig -x IP SOA). I suspect your authority section is hosed. Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Bill Day ( a.k.a. BadMan )188133 http://counter.li.org #linux-users irc.openprojects.net:6667 Our crystal tears now fall upon the ashes, but from the dust shall grow a spirit, to be in compassion for those who are lost, and one in determination to break those who dare test our resolve to be free... 9/11/01 http://www.daysdomain.com/tribute.html 7:30pm up 177 days, 10:24, 15 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Mandrake dev's
I've rm'd, deleted, shot, hung and stomped on /dev/cdrom and should be gone right? Wrong! the damb thing is still there! I'm running Mandrake 8.1 and for the first time ever I've failed to delete a file (block) How the H*ll do I get rid of this thing? I want /dev/cdrom -/dev/scd0 what is all the other crap Mandrake has set up? -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: printer in Suse 7.3
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 15:02:53 +1000 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a problem with my print program in Suse and Konqueror/Kmail. when I go to print a mail out it brings up a window to print from, in ther are printer names as strings. The one I need 'lpr' is not there but 3 others are lp|lp2|y2prn_lp.vpp--auto-lp|y2prn_lp.upp auto the others are lp-asci and lp-raw None of these print of course, they just bring up an error window. Where can I edit these to lpr or whatever. It seems to be in kmail and konqueror only, I think. I can't check out konqueror right now, but kmail prints fine. One thing you should realize is that 'lpr' is not a printer choice but a program (one of the lpr - lpd - lpq series) that passes its output (using filter definitions in printcap or cups, etc.) to the printer. The default printer is usually lp but this may be an alias for your actual printer name. Do you actually have a printer daemon started? (ps ax | grep lpd or ps ax | grep cups etc.). What messages are you getting in /var/log/messages (I presume that's the location for SuSE too). -- Collins Richey - Denver Area WWTLRD? - FreeBSD 4.4 + xfce + sylpheed ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OTinterest in an annual SxS get-together?
On Sat, 26 Jan 2002 00:15,Lavinius Romio Petru scribed: Skippy mate I will visit ya one day :) That a threat mate ? |:-O -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: hey Bandel! (was Re: BIND 9.x: Part II)
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 19:54:19 -0500 Bill Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the bitstream: ; DiG 9.2.0 daysdomain.com not quite. I need your SOA: dig daysdomain.com SOA Note, this should be for whatever zone BIND is barfing on. If it's a reverse, use a valid IP: dig -x 127.0.0.1 SOA My SOA looks like: ; DiG 8.3 pananix.com SOA ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch ;; got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 4 ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2 ;; QUERY SECTION: ;; pananix.com, type = SOA, class = IN ;; ANSWER SECTION: pananix.com.2W IN SOA ns1.panamanow.com. david.pananix.com. (2002012500 ; serial1W ; refresh 1H ; retry 4W ; expiry 2W ); minimum Capiche? Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto Internet (H323) phone: 206.28.187.30 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: hey Bandel! (was Re: BIND 9.x: Part II)
Not really.. (Capiche..) but I'll give er hell... 8^) From fresh start I get this: Jan 25 20:46:14 linuxbox named[23782]: starting BIND 9.2.0 -u named Jan 25 20:46:14 linuxbox named[23782]: using 1 CPU Jan 25 20:46:14 linuxbox named[23782]: loading configuration from '/etc/named.conf' Jan 25 20:46:14 linuxbox named[23782]: listening on IPv4 interface lo, 127.0.0.1#53 Jan 25 20:46:14 linuxbox named[23782]: the key 'rndc-key' is too short to be secure Jan 25 20:46:14 linuxbox last message repeated 3 times Jan 25 20:46:14 linuxbox named[23782]: command channel listening on 127.0.0.1#953 Jan 25 20:46:14 linuxbox named[23782]: Jan 25 20:46:14.352general: error: dns_master_load: pz/127.0.0:3: no current owner name Jan 25 20:46:14 linuxbox named[23782]: Jan 25 20:46:14.356general: error: zone 0.0.127.in-addr.arpa/IN: loading master file pz/127.0.0: no owner Jan 25 20:46:14 linuxbox named[23782]: Jan 25 20:46:14.359general: error: dns_master_load: pz/192.168.1:3: no current owner name Jan 25 20:46:14 linuxbox named[23782]: Jan 25 20:46:14.362general: error: zone 1.168.192.in-addr.arpa/IN: loading master file pz/192.168.1: no owner Jan 25 20:46:14 linuxbox named[23782]: Jan 25 20:46:14.363general: info: running [root@linuxbox /root]# dig daysdomain.com SOA ; DiG 9.2.0 daysdomain.com SOA ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 4599 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 1 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;daysdomain.com.IN SOA ;; ANSWER SECTION: daysdomain.com. 3582IN SOA d2gdns1.dns2go.com. admin.dns2go.com. 650 30 60 86400 15 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: daysdomain.com. 106743 IN NS NS2.dns2go.com. daysdomain.com. 106743 IN NS NS1.dns2go.com. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: NS1.dns2go.com. 169716 IN A 63.64.164.8 ;; Query time: 17 msec ;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1) ;; WHEN: Fri Jan 25 20:43:20 2002 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 141 [root@linuxbox /root]# dig -x 63.140.120.51 SOA ; DiG 9.2.0 -x 63.140.120.51 SOA ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 35602 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;51.120.140.63.in-addr.arpa.IN SOA ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: 140.63.in-addr.arpa.10780 IN SOA ns1.winstar.net. dns.winstar.net. 260201 21600 900 604800 43200 ;; Query time: 15 msec ;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1) ;; WHEN: Fri Jan 25 20:54:59 2002 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 99 I likely am missing something, yet I aint got a clue what... -- Bill Day ( a.k.a. BadMan )188133 http://counter.li.org #linux-users irc.openprojects.net:6667 Our crystal tears now fall upon the ashes, but from the dust shall grow a spirit, to be in compassion for those who are lost, and one in determination to break those who dare test our resolve to be free... 9/11/01 http://www.daysdomain.com/tribute.html 8:30pm up 177 days, 11:24, 15 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Mandrake dev's
from Ted Ozolins: I've rm'd, deleted, shot, hung and stomped on /dev/cdrom and should be gone right? Wrong! the damb thing is still there! I'm running Mandrake 8.1 and for Or is it being recreated by something? (I've got something else that looks a bit similar which I haven't got around to shooting yet.) How about setting directory perms to r/o or something and see if anything complains? R -- ...and if you choose to perish, do so with full knowledge of how cheaply how small an enemy has claimed your life. -John Galt (Atlas Shrugged, Ayn Rand) ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: hey Bandel! (was Re: BIND 9.x: Part II)
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 21:02:46 -0500 Bill Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the bitstream: Not really.. (Capiche..) but I'll give er hell... 8^) From fresh start I get this: Jan 25 20:46:14 linuxbox named[23782]: starting BIND 9.2.0 -u named Jan 25 20:46:14 linuxbox named[23782]: using 1 CPU Jan 25 20:46:14 linuxbox named[23782]: loading configuration from '/etc/named.conf' Jan 25 20:46:14 linuxbox named[23782]: listening on IPv4 interface lo, 127.0.0.1#53 Jan 25 20:46:14 linuxbox named[23782]: the key 'rndc-key' is too short to be secure self-expanatory Jan 25 20:46:14 linuxbox last message repeated 3 times Jan 25 20:46:14 linuxbox named[23782]: command channel listening on 127.0.0.1#953 Jan 25 20:46:14 linuxbox named[23782]: Jan 25 20:46:14.352general: error: dns_master_load: pz/127.0.0:3: no current owner name pls post the result of: dig -x 127.0.0.1 SOA Jan 25 20:46:14 linuxbox named[23782]: Jan 25 20:46:14.356general: error: zone 0.0.127.in-addr.arpa/IN: loading master file pz/127.0.0: no owner Jan 25 20:46:14 linuxbox named[23782]: Jan 25 20:46:14.359general: error: dns_master_load: pz/192.168.1:3: no current owner name pls post the result of: dig -x 192.168.1 SOA Jan 25 20:46:14 linuxbox named[23782]: Jan 25 20:46:14.362general: error: zone 1.168.192.in-addr.arpa/IN: loading master file pz/192.168.1: no owner Jan 25 20:46:14 linuxbox named[23782]: Jan 25 20:46:14.363general: info: running [snippage of SOA info that does not pertain to errors above] Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto Internet (H323) phone: 206.28.187.30 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Mandrake dev's
On Saturday 26 Jan 2002 01:05, Ted Ozolins wrote: I've rm'd, deleted, shot, hung and stomped on /dev/cdrom and should be gone right? Wrong! the damb thing is still there! I'm running Mandrake 8.1 and for the first time ever I've failed to delete a file (block) How the H*ll do I get rid of this thing? I want /dev/cdrom -/dev/scd0 what is all the other crap Mandrake has set up? [01:30 peter@penguin:~]$ ll /dev/cdrom lrwxrwxrwx1 root root9 Jan 18 00:31 /dev/cdrom - /dev/scd0 [01:35 peter@penguin:~]$ ll /dev/scd0 brw-rw1 petercdwriter 11, 0 Aug 30 10:54 /dev/scd0 I boot with... append= devfs=nomount mem=nopentium ... in /etc/lilo.conf If you're using devfs you have to use different nomenclature fot /dev/scd0 - it's a very long string - see man devfs -- Peter Ruskin, Wrexham, Wales. AMD Athlon XP 1600+, 512MB RAM. Registered Linux User 219434 ( see http://counter.li.org/ ). Mandrake Linux release 8.1 (Vitamin) for i586 Kernel 2.4.8-34.1mdk-win4lin, XFree86 4.1.0, patch level 21mdk. KDE: 2.2.2. Qt: 2.3.2. Up 7 hours 32 minutes. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Mail Server?
I use sendmail, procmail, and fetchmail. They work fine. It can get to be a bother to set up. I don't have any web interface experience. Joel On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 01:50:37PM -0500, Michael W. Holdeman wrote: I currently would like to set up a mail server on my internal lan. Something that would take the mail from the isp (*@ptfd.org) and then foreward to correct mailboxes on teh LAN. (eg [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]) There seem to be many alternatives. What are others using, relatively simple as I am not a guru by any means. Also can this be combined with squid? Also a web interface would be nice so members can check their e-mail from home, via ssh-vpn? Mike ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
routing a private ip
Hi all, Quick questions here. I have an ADSL connection to the Internet. I have been in the process of slowly setting up a home network. My question is, if I want to host a FTP or web server and I have a private IP address on my DSL connection, how can I get around this? My idea is, after having done a couple traceroutes, is to NAT my private address to the first hop returned on the traceroute. Then order up some dyndns.org. Any opinions on this (possibly lame-brained) idea? TIA -- Tom Wilson Register Linux user # 199331 I used to be with it, then they changed what it was. Now what I'm with isn't it anymore and whats it seems strange and scary to me. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: routing a private ip
Tom Wilson wrote: Hi all, Quick questions here. I have an ADSL connection to the Internet. I have been in the process of slowly setting up a home network. My question is, if I want to host a FTP or web server and I have a private IP address on my DSL connection, how can I get around this? My idea is, after having done a couple traceroutes, is to NAT my private address to the first hop returned on the traceroute. Then order up some dyndns.org. Any opinions on this (possibly lame-brained) idea? Head to http://checkip.dyndns.org/ it will let you know what your externally visible IP is. That's what you need to point you dyndns name to, assuming that your isp allows the kinds of traffic you're interested in. I'd guess that traceroute will show your internal (private IP) and the next thing it will show will be the next hop past your router...the gateway for the segment your ISP has you on. -- Linux SxS [http://sxs.webhop.net/] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Mandrake dev's
Thanks Peter, devfs was the culprit. Now I'll have to do more RTFM just so I know how it works. Dang! just when I thought I had all the right answers, they changed the questions:) -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: routing a private ip
On Friday 25 January 2002 23:39 pm, Tom Wilson wrote: Hi all, Quick questions here. I have an ADSL connection to the Internet. I have been in the process of slowly setting up a home network. My question is, if I want to host a FTP or web server and I have a private IP address on my DSL connection, how can I get around this? My idea is, after having done a couple traceroutes, is to NAT my private address to the first hop returned on the traceroute. Then order up some dyndns.org. Any opinions on this (possibly lame-brained) idea? TIA I assume by 'private ip' you really mean a static IP. (it's always the same) Sounds like you want the same situation that I have here (static IP, but I use a dial-up line) I host a web server and wouldn't *dare* put up an ftp server. You'll be over-run with door knockers... In any event all I think you need is masquerading of your internal network. All your machines would have local addresses of 192.168.0.xx or such and your ADSL connected machine becomes the gateway to the Inet. Now I have my web server on my inet connected machine. Placing it on some other machine in your LAN that isn't directly connected can take some work as you will have to forward incoming connections to that machine. But dyndns is the way to go if you can't get your ISP to host your domain. -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 01/25/02 23:51 + ++ When large numbers of men are unable to find work, unemployment results. - Calvin Coolidge ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: routing a private ip
On Friday 25 January 2002 11 23:55 pm, Bruce Marshall's voice rose above the ones in my head and declared: I assume by 'private ip' you really mean a static IP. (it's always the same) I have a DHCP assigned address although it has been the same one since I got my DSL a year ago. My assigned IP is a private class A. 10.xxx.xxx.xxx Sounds like you want the same situation that I have here (static IP, but I use a dial-up line) I host a web server and wouldn't *dare* put up an ftp server. You'll be over-run with door knockers... I was thinking of hosting my own web server and ftp. My IPS provides me with 10 MB of webspace but I want the experience of setting up my own. And I have some friends that swap a lot of MP3's of Phish and Grateful Dead concerts and they mostly do it via ftp. I was gonna put up a non-anonymous ftp using something other than wu-ftp. In any event all I think you need is masquerading of your internal network. All your machines would have local addresses of 192.168.0.xx or such and your ADSL connected machine becomes the gateway to the Inet. I am going to set up my internal network (192.168.0.xx range) to masq through my firewall that has my external interface point to the 10.xxx.xxx.xxx that I have from my ISP. Problem is how do I get incoming connections routed to a 10.xxx.xxx,xxx private address. Now I have my web server on my inet connected machine. Placing it on some other machine in your LAN that isn't directly connected can take some work as you will have to forward incoming connections to that machine. Yes it is. But I am willing to put in the work and have had some previous help in IP forwarding. It may take awhile but I am willing to give it my best. But dyndns is the way to go if you can't get your ISP to host your domain. They will host the domain for me but it all cost more money above and beyond my current ISP and DSL provide costs. And that is what I want to avoid is paying more money for stuf I am really just doing for fun right now. Thanks a bunch -- Tom Wilson Register Linux user # 199331 I used to be with it, then they changed what it was. Now what I'm with isn't it anymore and whats it seems strange and scary to me. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: routing a private ip
[mondo snip] But dyndns is the way to go if you can't get your ISP to host your domain. They will host the domain for me but it all cost more money above and beyond my current ISP and DSL provide costs. And that is what I want to avoid is paying more money for stuf I am really just doing for fun right now. They in the above statement being mysw ISP not dyndns. Oops. :-) -- Tom Wilson Register Linux user # 199331 I used to be with it, then they changed what it was. Now what I'm with isn't it anymore and whats it seems strange and scary to me. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
