Re: another xfree 4.2.0 gotcha

2002-01-26 Thread Joshua Lee

On Friday 25 January 2002 12:09 am, Myles Green wrote:
> Must be a problem with GDM (you did say that was what you were using,
> correct?) because I use KDM when using RL5 and haven't had any problems.
> Is there a quick and dirty way for me to change to using GDM so I can

What distro are you using? In SuSE you can change one line in /etc/rc.config 
(DISPLAYMANAGER="kdm") to gdm.
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Re: Sharing /home Among Distros?

2002-01-26 Thread Anita Lewis

On Sat, 26 Jan 2002 20:21:26 -0600, Michael Hipp wrote:
> What are the problems to overcome in sharing /home among different distros?
> 
> I have /home as a separate partition on Caldera 3.1 and I'd like to share it 
> with Desktop/LX (aka Redmond Linux). And maybe Mandrake and Elx eventually. 
> They all use KDE so that makes some things easier.
> 
> One problem: on COL 3.1 I'm michael:x:500:100 whereas on Desktop/LX I'm 
> michael:x:100:100. Presumably I could just change the uid and chown 
> everything in /home/michael???
> 
> Thanks,
> Michael

I've shared /home some and run into a few cases where config files were
overwritten in another distro.  I stopped sharing for that reason, but it
worked with some distros. I'm sorry that I can't tell you which, but I can
say for sure that I have not used Caldera, Redmond, Mandrake, or Elx in this
way.  I did use Slack, Debian, RedHat and I believe my problem was between
RedHat and Debian.  Like you said, you need to have compatible uid/gid.  I
did this by first making the user with the uid that I wanted on the /home on
the / of the install.  I brought up KDE and so on to see what the config
files looked like.  Then I changed /etc/fstab so that the shared /home was
in it and mounted it after logging off the user.  I made the uid match the
numbers I already had on the files; so chown was not necessary. 

If I were going to share again, I would probably make two users on the
shared /home - one would be the usual and the other would be with the name
of the second distro.  In my case I'd have ajlewis2 (for Debian) and redhat
for the obvious.  When booted in Redhat, I would use redhat.  I could easily
copy between the two directories with root and chown files as needed.  I'd
do this for a while and compare things.  I might even make the redhat
directory a duplicate of my ajlewis2 directory and see if things changed in
it.  If things looked compatible after a while, I'd switch over to using
ajlewis2 in RedHat too.  I'd umount /home and make the user ajlewis2 and
then mount /home again in order to accomplish this.

So, I'd say try it out, but do it safely with some testing.

Anita
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Sharing /home Among Distros?

2002-01-26 Thread Michael Hipp

What are the problems to overcome in sharing /home among different distros?

I have /home as a separate partition on Caldera 3.1 and I'd like to share it 
with Desktop/LX (aka Redmond Linux). And maybe Mandrake and Elx eventually. 
They all use KDE so that makes some things easier.

One problem: on COL 3.1 I'm michael:x:500:100 whereas on Desktop/LX I'm 
michael:x:100:100. Presumably I could just change the uid and chown 
everything in /home/michael???

Thanks,
Michael
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Sharing /home Among Distros?

2002-01-26 Thread Michael Hipp

What are the problems to overcome in sharing /home among different distros?

I have /home as a separate partition on Caldera 3.1 and I'd like to share it 
with Desktop/LX (aka Redmond Linux). And maybe Mandrake and Elx eventually. 
They all use KDE so that makes some things easier.

One problem: on COL 3.1 I'm michael:x:500:100 whereas on Desktop/LX I'm 
michael:x:100:100. Presumably I could just change the uid and chown 
everything in /home/michael???

Thanks,
Michael
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vi and formatting

2002-01-26 Thread Joel Hammer

I like vi, and it is neat to turn text documents into postscript with
enscript. However, I would like to be able to format things better than
just straight text with one font.

Enscript understands certain embedded escapes to change fonts and other
items. However, these extra characters on a line in vi mess up the length
of the line by making it shorter when it get converted to postscript.
Does anyone know of a solution?

I tried to subscribe to the vi list but so far and I haven't been
successful.

Any insight appreciated,

Joel
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Re: Article: Converting A Company To OSS

2002-01-26 Thread Tim Wunder

Previously, Joel Hammer chose to write:
> Like the author, I too find that staroffice works, despite being
> ugly. Since I have upgraded to a faster work station, it doesn't seem
> so slow.  I was suprised that he sounded as if all the various workers
> were running software installed locally, not on a server with X terminals
> for clients.  That is the place you make your money, I think.  However,
> unlike him, I have found staroffice to be a fine platform to load *ppt
> documents, and, if you want, it is OK for email and web browsing. It seems
> especially nice for reading attachements, compared to other alternatives.
> I am a bit suprised they just didn't use StarOffice all the way, ie. for
> email and web browsing, too.
>

FYI, StarOffice 6 will not have e-mail or web browsing capabilities. The 
entire desktop thingy that SO 5.2 had is gone, too. 

Tim

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Re: Article: Converting A Company To OSS

2002-01-26 Thread Joel Hammer

Like the author, I too find that staroffice works, despite being
ugly. Since I have upgraded to a faster work station, it doesn't seem
so slow.  I was suprised that he sounded as if all the various workers
were running software installed locally, not on a server with X terminals
for clients.  That is the place you make your money, I think.  However,
unlike him, I have found staroffice to be a fine platform to load *ppt
documents, and, if you want, it is OK for email and web browsing. It seems
especially nice for reading attachements, compared to other alternatives.
I am a bit suprised they just didn't use StarOffice all the way, ie. for
email and web browsing, too. 

Joel
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Article: Converting A Company To OSS

2002-01-26 Thread Michael Hipp

A somewhat long but excellent read on one company's conversion to OSS. The
author makes some very good points about the strengths and weaknesses of the
software choices available under Linux.

http://desktoplinux.com/articles/AT9664091996.html


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Another Reason NOT To Use Windows

2002-01-26 Thread Michael Hipp

http://www.hp-eloquence.com/sdb/html/998559406.html

In Windows 2000 Pro SP2, MS slipped in the old 10-concurrent-connection
limitation that had been removed in NT4 due to public outcry. They snuck it
back in. Jerks!

So if you know someone who wants a small office LAN server better get them
to use Linux. Unless they want to spend big$ on W2k Server and enjoy having
MS make their decisions for them.

Michael



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Re: routing a private ip

2002-01-26 Thread Tim Wunder

If you've got an old PC laying around, you could build yourself a freesco 
router. I'm using an old P133 with 32 MB RAM, which is overkill. All you 
really need is a 486 and 8 to 16 MB RAM. I'm using just the motherboard, 2 
NICs and a floppy. It can handle port forwarding, which is what you want. You 
can forward any external port to any port on any machine on your LAN. It 
connects to my Cable modem without a problem. How well it connects to ADSL, I 
don't know.
You can check out at http://www.freesco.org.
HTH, 
Tim

Previously, Tom Wilson chose to write:
> On Friday 25 January 2002 11 23:55 pm, Bruce Marshall's voice rose above
> the ones in my head and declared:
> > I assume by 'private ip'  you really mean a static IP.   (it's always the
> > same)
>
> I have a DHCP assigned address although it has been the same one since I
> got my DSL a year ago.  My assigned IP is a private class A. 
> 10.xxx.xxx.xxx
>
> > Sounds like you want the same situation that I have here  (static IP, but
> > I use a dial-up line)   I host a web server  and wouldn't *dare* put up
> > an ftp server.  You'll be over-run with door knockers...
>
> I was thinking of hosting my own web server and ftp.  My IPS provides me
> with 10 MB of webspace but I want the experience of setting up my own.  And
> I have some friends that swap a lot of MP3's of Phish and Grateful Dead
> concerts and they mostly do it via ftp.  I was gonna put up a non-anonymous
> ftp using something other than wu-ftp.
>
> > In any event all I think you need is masquerading of your internal
> > network. All your machines would have local addresses of   192.168.0.xx  
> > or such and your ADSL connected machine becomes the gateway to the Inet.
>
> I am going to set up my internal network (192.168.0.xx range) to masq
> through my firewall that has my external interface point to the
> 10.xxx.xxx.xxx that I have from my ISP.   Problem is how do I get incoming
> connections routed to a 10.xxx.xxx,xxx private address.
>
> > Now I have my web server on my inet connected machine.  Placing it on
> > some other machine in your LAN that isn't directly connected can take
> > some work as you will have to forward incoming connections to that
> > machine.
>
> Yes it is.  But I am willing to put in the work and have had some previous
> help in IP forwarding.  It may take awhile but I am willing to give it my
> best.
>
> > But dyndns is the way to go if you can't get your ISP to host your
> > domain.
>
> They will host the domain for me but it all cost more money above and
> beyond my current ISP and DSL provide costs.  And that is what I want to
> avoid is paying more money for stuf I am really just doing for fun right
> now.
>
> Thanks a bunch

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Re: routing a private ip

2002-01-26 Thread Tom Wilson

On Friday 25 January 2002 11:23:46 pm, Ian's voice rose above the ones in my 
head and declared:

> Head to
>
> http://checkip.dyndns.org/
>
> it will let you know what your externally visible IP is.  That's what
> you need to point you dyndns name to, assuming that your isp allows the
> kinds of traffic you're interested in.
>
> I'd guess that traceroute will show your internal (private IP) and the
> next thing it will show will be the next hop past your router...the
> gateway for the segment your ISP has you on.

Thanks Ian.   That looks like it will be a starting point.  I guess I could 
portscan the IP to see what ports they block.  I don't know if I want to do 
that though, my ISP may view that as suspicious activity or something.  


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Re: hey Bandel! (was Re: BIND 9.x: Part II)

2002-01-26 Thread David A. Bandel

On Sat, 26 Jan 2002 05:33:31 -0500
Bill Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed into the bitstream:

> 
> 
> [root@linuxbox /root]# dig -x 127.0.0.1 SOA
>  
> ; <<>> DiG 9.2.0 <<>> -x 127.0.0.1 SOA
> ;; global options:  printcmd
> ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 35519
> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0
>  
> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;1.0.0.127.in-addr.arpa.IN  SOA
>  
> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
> 0.0.127.in-addr.arpa.   10800   IN  SOA b.root-servers.net. 
> root.b.root-servers.net. 19970624 360 3600 390 360
>  
> ;; Query time: 2287 msec
> ;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1)
> ;; WHEN: Sat Jan 26 05:30:53 2002
> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 99
>  
> [root@linuxbox /root]# dig -x 192.168.1 SOA
>  
> ; <<>> DiG 9.2.0 <<>> -x 192.168.1 SOA
> ;; global options:  printcmd
> ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 7018
> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0
>  
> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;1.168.192.in-addr.arpa.IN  SOA
>  
> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
> 168.192.in-addr.arpa.   0   IN  SOA blackhole.iana.org. 
> crain.icann.org. 19971502 10800 900 604800 86400
>  
> ;; Query time: 558 msec
> ;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1)
> ;; WHEN: Sat Jan 26 05:31:02 2002
> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 106
> 
> 
> Also these are in tail f-f /var../messages I guess this mean that it is
> able to query in reverse...?
> Jan 26 05:30:50 linuxbox named[23782]: Jan 26 05:30:50.966queries: info:
> client 127.0.0.1#2837: query: 1.0.0.127.in-addr.arpa IN SOA
> Jan 26 05:31:02 linuxbox named[23782]: Jan 26 05:31:02.275queries: info:
> client 127.0.0.1#2837: query: 1.168.192.in-addr.arpa IN SOA
> 

Based on the above, I'd say your /etc/named.conf has entries for reverse,
but you haven't created the reverse zone files.  You need reverse zone
files for every IP range you have a forward in.  In your case, you need
zone files for 127.0.0.0/8 and 192.168.1.0/24.  

Difference between a forward and reverse zone: the reverse zone uses PTR
RRs to point to A RRs.  Create reverse zone files, make sure
/etc/named.conf point to the correct file names (the name of the zone file
is unimportant).

Ciao,

David A. Bandel
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Re: hey Bandel! (was Re: BIND 9.x: Part II)

2002-01-26 Thread Bill Day



[root@linuxbox /root]# dig -x 127.0.0.1 SOA
 
; <<>> DiG 9.2.0 <<>> -x 127.0.0.1 SOA
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 35519
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0
 
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;1.0.0.127.in-addr.arpa.IN  SOA
 
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
0.0.127.in-addr.arpa.   10800   IN  SOA b.root-servers.net. 
root.b.root-servers.net. 19970624 360 3600 390 360
 
;; Query time: 2287 msec
;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1)
;; WHEN: Sat Jan 26 05:30:53 2002
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 99
 
[root@linuxbox /root]# dig -x 192.168.1 SOA
 
; <<>> DiG 9.2.0 <<>> -x 192.168.1 SOA
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 7018
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0
 
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;1.168.192.in-addr.arpa.IN  SOA
 
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
168.192.in-addr.arpa.   0   IN  SOA blackhole.iana.org. 
crain.icann.org. 19971502 10800 900 604800 86400
 
;; Query time: 558 msec
;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1)
;; WHEN: Sat Jan 26 05:31:02 2002
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 106


Also these are in tail f-f /var../messages I guess this mean that it is able 
to query in reverse...?
Jan 26 05:30:50 linuxbox named[23782]: Jan 26 05:30:50.966queries: info: 
client 127.0.0.1#2837: query: 1.0.0.127.in-addr.arpa IN SOA
Jan 26 05:31:02 linuxbox named[23782]: Jan 26 05:31:02.275queries: info: 
client 127.0.0.1#2837: query: 1.168.192.in-addr.arpa IN SOA

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