Re: Header include question
On Thu, 7 Feb 2002 06:04, Kurt Wall wrote: > On, Wed, 6 Feb 2002 10:34:03 -0600, Rick Sivernell typed: > > [mondo snippage] >Kurt > > I understand, I have a handle on it now. > > I just knew you were the one to ask. I really > > appreciate your help Thank you. > Or, you could try the Kurtwerks(tm) all stars bobby dazzler. It saved me, the universe, made coffee and washed the dishes export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="some damn path" It was *after* this bit of Kurwerks(tm) advice that I discovered I didn't need to fiddle with -I -i --nostdinc etc. My only complaint is that Kurt could have told me about it before I asked. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
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On Thu, 7 Feb 2002 22:31, Peter Ruskin wrote: > I have to say I haven't studied any manuals about this (because "it works > for me®") - it came from a tip by a guru on kde-linux list. Okay okay, how'd you get the ® symbol. Don't tell me to use fourteen keystrokes please. I'm ready with the superglue and a stick on transfer for the key you tell me about. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Fwd: SuSE noshow at LWCE NY 2002
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002 20:43, Joshua Lee wrote: > The S-100 bus existed as a standard bus on many CP/M boxes long before > the Apple II, though Apple is to be commended for it's open specs for The reference was in context to the Apple, and the demise of Mrola, which is directly related. The S100 (or separately, the Apple bus) were 'copied' into the IBM pc. It is only ironic that the good idea wasn't enough. Volumes are what counted. > Intel beat the Motorollas only through brute force, The brute force equated to volumes and price. _because_ Apples were and are excessively expensive, they weren't high volumes (relative to cheaply made, unlicensed pc klones). The sheer volume of Intel cpu's was the brute force. It was nothing that Intel did or didn't do to make that happen. > Intel eventually having more megahertz. Motorolla always had > less clock cycles per instruction and a lot more elegance This is not the case at the point of disconnect. The 68040 was a gruntier, crunchier chip than the (early versions) of the 486. Intel did not 'win' based on more megahertz, Motorola did not 'lose' despite having a more elegant (read uniformly linear) cpu. Motorola had no place (other than Apple) to push it's cart in desktops (Amiga was a closed box). Where Mrola continues to win is any embedded engine based on it's CPU32 core. They compete head to head with Intel in volumes because it is single application-specific. (eg Palm pilots). Afaik, MC68HC11's, 05's , 680332 are dominant and Intel is an also ran. > Well, there were other factors, such as IBM choosing the 8088 for it's > PC. ;-) which brings me back full circle. History will never know if a very big player backing the 8086 caused it to win. What caused the 680x0 to lose is Apple's unambiguous greed, simple as that. >The 8080 and Z-80 were horrible, a total lack of useful addressing modes, >specialized registers in context to your paragraph, I don't think you were slagging the Z80. It was the most advanced cpu & peripheral family of it's day and your arguments for the 6502, while valid, are a risk/cisc argument, hotly debated in 1975 citing both as 'exhibit one'. The Z80 pinched many mainframe concepts (mostly from Xerox Sigma 6 & Univac 1100's), including vectored interrupts. A lack which continues to plague us with the irq limit on x86. Most commentators of the time remarked on the ultimate demise of Charlie Chaplin because they backed the wrong horse (snigger snigger): an 8086 which was designed by the flotsam of Intel that remained after Exxon bought out the original design team. Anyway, nice to sse you know what you're talking about -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Fwd: SuSE noshow at LWCE NY 2002
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002 05:21, Bill Campbell wrote: > I learned a long time ago (1) to always ``cd'' to a directory before doing > an ``rm *'' in that directory instead of ``rm dir/*'' since a space after > the slash does nasty things, and (2) to think really hard before using the > ``*'' to make sure I've typed it correctly. This is where a gui widget helps. A delete widget (button or icon) is context sensitive, it might operate on some highighted info, or many other criteria. The only thing context sensitive about the cli method is the current path (dot)(slash) A gui widget learns from it's mistakes. Ie it is automated better by each iteration of the code underlying it. It might do self checks, it might 'understand' what can / can't be deleted, it might be full bloat and actually do hidden backups. Point being, it can be automated with intelligence. The same intelligence you have to 'learn', it can too. The difference is the gui widget is an accumulator of knowledge. It doesnt forget, or make typos, or unlearn. You can create this fundamental, identically, using cli script. Ie overwriting the basic rm command with an alias to a written script of your own which would exhibit the same strengths as a gui-widget (because basically all scripts are widgets). Where the gui method differs is that all possible options (can be) presented in your face so to speak, with radio buttons or check boxes. There's nothing different about using 'no operator intelligence required' gui button and an equally 'no intelligence required' script. Both are implemented with the same goal in mind. But give me a gui anyday to remove the typos, and remind me, of all possible options that I can't remember, or much much worse, how to present them, on the command line. Secondly, a gui widget is a token. A picture of a crimson pink elephant means something. awk, grep, Grep, grEp, GRep, and grePpp mean nothing and are impossible to remember (the classic cp -r ... and chown -R .) Using a mouse (gui), or, using the up-arrow (cli), has the same degree of laziness, except mice can't type miStakeZ. The idea of 'you can type the command quicker and easier', frankly, fills me with horror. Been there dun that, and recovered. SOME installations ban all use of the cli for this reason. (VisaCard servers eg). *nix makes much of the security aspect "linux won't let you.". This is fuddelbunk when it comes to individual users. Linux very weak in protecting a user from himself. The idea that a scientist deleting his 2,000 page thesis by accident is 'too stupid to use a computer' doesn't wash well. Up arrows create havoc each day every day. One final thing to say about gui widgets is there is a disconnect between the command option and the literal. With cli, once you determine that --elephants means ignore timeouts, that's it. In most cases, 'elephants' is position sensitive as well. You can't change the name, nor it's position relative to other commands (without serious wurries). Filenames are particularly notorious, eg copy this = that, or is it copy that->this ? With a gui, the visual front end can be radio-button-"elephants" and next version radio-button:"giraffes" if that has more contextual sense, and options have no position sensitivy. A text box saying "input file name" is pretty clear. This means that revision of a gui widget doesn't automatically break the underlying code, nor, does it inhibit revision. The dangers inherent in changing how a cli verb operates has indeed prevented many of them from being revised and is the reason why we cannot have a uniform set of -a, -b -c switches. They can't even agree on --help, /h -h, --H, -i, --I, -v or -vV. The F1 key is agreed on. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: MySQL front ends, was: Re: no printing from kmail
On Tue, 5 Feb 2002 12:31, Peter Ruskin wrote: > On Monday 04 Feb 2002 21:08, David A. Bandel wrote: > > xmysql, webmin mysql module, phpmysqladmin, and there are others (tk > > module, ...) afaik, none of these are user front ends. Again, afaik, none of them allow you to design a dbase, then enter data, in an IDE fashion. They are tools for designing an ide. > ... and from KDE there are Rekall and knoda disappointed with Rekall, and am using knoda at moment. It is very alpha, and under-developed. But, as a user front end, Knoda seems to be the only thing 'out there' and is the best of a poor bunch. I have supplied some patch code to the developer (of Knoda), he's tame, friendly, and overworked. I can't put very much effort into helping him because SQL is a mystery to me. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Configuring KDE Redhat 7.1 without reinstalling
Thanks. That is a REAL fine untility. Joel > > As root type setup. Last option in the list is X configuration. Should get > you back to a basic config file. > Tom Wilson ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Configuring KDE Redhat 7.1 without reinstalling
At risk of stating the obvious, this is why I always keep several copies of working XF86Config files stored in all kinds of places. Being able to get X up in even a limited fashion can make any day brighter. Michael Hipp, CGW (Certified GUI Weenie - kinda like an MSCE only with fewer qualifications). Joel Hammer pontificated eloquently: > I mucked up my xf86config file when I changed monitors and mice on my > RedHat 7.1 box. > This is XFree 4.0 something. Is there a way to run the redhat cdrom to > just get it to configure my hardware again? > Thanks, > Joel > > ___ > Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above > URL. -- Michael R. Hipp "Let us not deceive ourselves, sir. These are the implements of war and subjugation; the last arguments to which kings resort. I ask gentlemen, sir, what means this martial array, if its purpose be not to force us to submission?" - Patrick Henry March 23, 1775 (or just about anyone speaking of today) ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Disk Activity
Checked cron, it's definitely set to run every 5 minutes forever. Seems at least backing it down to 1/hour would be sufficient. Anyone know? Thanks, Michael Joel Hammer pontificated eloquently: > Hmm... > > Is this the despised rmmod command? I would remove this from the root > crontab or system crontab. I think a number of distros use it, to get > rid of unused modules, but, it causes more pain than it is worth in > some situations. > > Are there any other logs you could peek into? httpd, secure, and so on. > > Joel > > On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 09:38:06PM -0600, Michael Hipp wrote: > > Good thought. Looks like I'm getting these at 5 min intervals, but > > nothing approaching every sec. > > > > Feb 8 21:20:01 linux crond[1846]: (root) CMD (/sbin/rmmod -a) > > Feb 8 21:25:01 linux crond[1848]: (root) CMD (/sbin/rmmod -a) > > Feb 8 21:30:01 linux crond[1863]: (root) CMD (/sbin/rmmod -a) > > Feb 8 21:35:01 linux crond[1877]: (root) CMD (/sbin/rmmod -a) > > ___ > Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above > URL. -- Michael R. Hipp "Let us not deceive ourselves, sir. These are the implements of war and subjugation; the last arguments to which kings resort. I ask gentlemen, sir, what means this martial array, if its purpose be not to force us to submission?" - Patrick Henry March 23, 1775 (or just about anyone speaking of today) ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Configuring KDE Redhat 7.1 without reinstalling
On Friday 08 February 2002 10 22:54 pm, Joel Hammer's voice rose above the ones in my head and declared: > I mucked up my xf86config file when I changed monitors and mice on my > RedHat 7.1 box. > This is XFree 4.0 something. Is there a way to run the redhat cdrom to just > get it to configure my hardware again? > Thanks, > Joel > As root type setup. Last option in the list is X configuration. Should get you back to a basic config file. -- Tom Wilson Register Linux user # 199331 I used to be with it, then they changed what it was. Now what I'm with isn't it anymore and whats it seems strange and scary to me. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Disk Activity (Bingo!)
Using KDE Control Center -> System -> Services, I started stopping services one-at-a-time. The culprit is the USB Hot Plug Daemon. Is this the same as 'hotpluguid'? It seems to still be loaded in memory but no longer coming to the top of top. ps -aux | grep uid: michael 1118 0.0 2.9 16412 7420 ?S21:52 0:00 hotpluguid Any way, problem solved if I can live without USB Hot Plugging. Thanks for everyone's help, Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Configuring KDE Redhat 7.1 without reinstalling
I mucked up my xf86config file when I changed monitors and mice on my RedHat 7.1 box. This is XFree 4.0 something. Is there a way to run the redhat cdrom to just get it to configure my hardware again? Thanks, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Disk Activity
Hmm... Is this the despised rmmod command? I would remove this from the root crontab or system crontab. I think a number of distros use it, to get rid of unused modules, but, it causes more pain than it is worth in some situations. Are there any other logs you could peek into? httpd, secure, and so on. Joel On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 09:38:06PM -0600, Michael Hipp wrote: > Good thought. Looks like I'm getting these at 5 min intervals, but nothing > approaching every sec. > > Feb 8 21:20:01 linux crond[1846]: (root) CMD (/sbin/rmmod -a) > Feb 8 21:25:01 linux crond[1848]: (root) CMD (/sbin/rmmod -a) > Feb 8 21:30:01 linux crond[1863]: (root) CMD (/sbin/rmmod -a) > Feb 8 21:35:01 linux crond[1877]: (root) CMD (/sbin/rmmod -a) > > ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Disk Activity
Good thought. Looks like I'm getting these at 5 min intervals, but nothing approaching every sec. Feb 8 21:20:01 linux crond[1846]: (root) CMD (/sbin/rmmod -a) Feb 8 21:25:01 linux crond[1848]: (root) CMD (/sbin/rmmod -a) Feb 8 21:30:01 linux crond[1863]: (root) CMD (/sbin/rmmod -a) Feb 8 21:35:01 linux crond[1877]: (root) CMD (/sbin/rmmod -a) Joel Hammer pontificated eloquently: > I would look in /var/log/messages. Maybe you are getting numerous error > messages logged there, causing the disk activity. > Joel -- Michael R. Hipp "Let us not deceive ourselves, sir. These are the implements of war and subjugation; the last arguments to which kings resort. I ask gentlemen, sir, what means this martial array, if its purpose be not to force us to submission?" - Patrick Henry March 23, 1775 (or just about anyone speaking of today) ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Disk Activity
I would look in /var/log/messages. Maybe you are getting numerous error messages logged there, causing the disk activity. Joel On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 06:46:28PM -0600, Michael Hipp wrote: > Something is continually strobing my hard disk about 1/second all the time > I'm logged into KDE. Seems excessive. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: an unintentional hoot
On Friday 08 February 2002 10 22:08 pm, dep's voice rose above the ones in my head and declared: > begin Tom Wilson's quote: > | LMAOI wonder if that is the work of him again or if someone > | just donwloaded one of the photos and cut him out. That poor > | fella, little did he know he would be elevated to Internet > | celebrity status. > > interestingly, it's actually not him -- the picture on drudge is real. > and the poor fellow involved in the original wtc picture stepped > forward. details, as well as probably the best gallery of him stuck > in odd places, is at http://www.touristguy.com . > > but the resemblance on the drudge page is incredible, isn't it? It is uncanny! I was just at the touristguy.com the other day. I was researching some hoaxes for work and stumbled across that site. I spent a good 45 minutes looking through there. There are some funny pics on that site. -- Tom Wilson Register Linux user # 199331 I used to be with it, then they changed what it was. Now what I'm with isn't it anymore and whats it seems strange and scary to me. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: an unintentional hoot
begin Tom Wilson's quote: | LMAOI wonder if that is the work of him again or if someone | just donwloaded one of the photos and cut him out. That poor | fella, little did he know he would be elevated to Internet | celebrity status. interestingly, it's actually not him -- the picture on drudge is real. and the poor fellow involved in the original wtc picture stepped forward. details, as well as probably the best gallery of him stuck in odd places, is at http://www.touristguy.com . but the resemblance on the drudge page is incredible, isn't it? -- dep There is sobbing of the strong, And a pall upon the land; But the People in their weeping Bare the iron hand; Beware the People weeping When they bare the iron hand. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: an unintentional hoot
On Friday 08 February 2002 8 20:19 pm, dep's voice rose above the ones in my head and declared: > looks as if internet tourist guy is now in salt lake city -- and the > connection is not being made. or else one hell of a coincidence: > > http://www.drudgereport.com/ LMAOI wonder if that is the work of him again or if someone just donwloaded one of the photos and cut him out. That poor fella, little did he know he would be elevated to Internet celebrity status. -- Tom Wilson Register Linux user # 199331 I used to be with it, then they changed what it was. Now what I'm with isn't it anymore and whats it seems strange and scary to me. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Disk Activity
The drives have been in this config since I built the machine (< 1 month ago). The activity stops if I log out to the KDE login panel. Or if I get out of X altogether. dep pontificated eloquently: > begin Michael Hipp's quote: > | Unplugging the 2nd hard drive would take some work as that's where > | and /home are. > > um, yeah. have you had both drives in the machine in the same > configuration -- both on the same cable -- when this disk activity > *didn't* take place? reason i ask is that there are very ugly > interactions between drives in this configuration sometimes, > irrespective of what's installed on 'em. -- Michael R. Hipp "The more corrupt the State the more numerous the laws." -Roman historian Cornelius Tacitus ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: USB Printers and COL 3.1.1 (Workstation)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, That's what I thought :) On Fri, 08 Feb 2002 20:19:06 -0600, Michael Hipp wrote: >This might be a good addition to the SxS. > >Federico Voges pontificated eloquently: >> Hi, >> >> Just one bit of advice for those trying to use an USB printer with COL >> 3.1.1 >> >> add "printer" to /etc/modules/default >> or modprobe printer >> >> Otherwise, it won't be recognized. At least, that happened to me >> setting up an Epson SC 777. >> >> Federico Voges Socio gerente Intrasoft Malabia 2137 14 A (1425) Buenos Aires Argentina Te/Fax: 54-11-4833-5182 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.intrasoft.com.ar PGP Public Key Fingerprint: A536 4595 EB6F D197 FBC1 5C3A 145C 2516 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPGSLkxRcJRaVKt4XEQLybwCgucjEI/SdHLb6gtBPIdEG6e3qN8YAnjZc cqftfHeu2tzoI2EaGA3hgm1m =EaYD -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Disk Activity
begin Michael Hipp's quote: | Unplugging the 2nd hard drive would take some work as that's where | and /home are. um, yeah. have you had both drives in the machine in the same configuration -- both on the same cable -- when this disk activity *didn't* take place? reason i ask is that there are very ugly interactions between drives in this configuration sometimes, irrespective of what's installed on 'em. -- dep There is sobbing of the strong, And a pall upon the land; But the People in their weeping Bare the iron hand; Beware the People weeping When they bare the iron hand. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Disk Activity
Look at th3e Caldera help info, they have one that talks about some kde utility on their system tray always checking, polling, cd roms or something along those lines. cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: USB Printers and COL 3.1.1 (Workstation)
This might be a good addition to the SxS. Federico Voges pontificated eloquently: > Hi, > > Just one bit of advice for those trying to use an USB printer with COL > 3.1.1 > > add "printer" to /etc/modules/default > or modprobe printer > > Otherwise, it won't be recognized. At least, that happened to me > setting up an Epson SC 777. > > > Federico Voges > Socio gerente > > Intrasoft > Malabia 2137 14 A > (1425) Buenos Aires > Argentina > > Te/Fax: 54-11-4833-5182 > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Web: http://www.intrasoft.com.ar > > PGP Public Key Fingerprint: A536 4595 EB6F D197 FBC1 5C3A 145C 2516 > > > > > ___ > Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above > URL. -- Michael R. Hipp "The more corrupt the State the more numerous the laws." -Roman historian Cornelius Tacitus ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Disk Activity
I unmounted the ReiserFS and vfat partitions. Disk activity continues. Setting 'top' to 0.1 second updates seems to show kdeinit, X, init, keventd, and maybe hotpluguid as the most active. But it's really hard to tell. Interesting that hotpluguid seems to jump from way down on list to very top at somewhat regular intervals. Unplugging the 2nd hard drive would take some work as that's where and /home are. Thanks. dep pontificated eloquently: > begin Michael Hipp's quote: > | New mobo (P4 1.7 GHz, 256M, 845 Intel chipset w/DDR memory, 2 IDE > | hds on chan #0). Ext2 filesystem, tho I have an Elx partition > | mounted that is ReiserFS and also a vfat Win partition. Not sure > | what you're asking specifically about swap but 'free' says: > | total used free sharedbuffers > | cached Mem:255532 184120 71412 1024 > | 3196 95168 -/+ buffers/cache: 85756 169776 > | Swap: 321260 0 321260 > > hmmm. how often does reiser write to the journal? > > also, what happens if you unplug the second drive? > > finally, if you *watch* top, does anything change when the disk access > takes place? -- Michael R. Hipp "The more corrupt the State the more numerous the laws." -Roman historian Cornelius Tacitus ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
USB Printers and COL 3.1.1 (Workstation)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Just one bit of advice for those trying to use an USB printer with COL 3.1.1 add "printer" to /etc/modules/default or modprobe printer Otherwise, it won't be recognized. At least, that happened to me setting up an Epson SC 777. Federico Voges Socio gerente Intrasoft Malabia 2137 14 A (1425) Buenos Aires Argentina Te/Fax: 54-11-4833-5182 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.intrasoft.com.ar PGP Public Key Fingerprint: A536 4595 EB6F D197 FBC1 5C3A 145C 2516 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPGSDIBRcJRaVKt4XEQLihQCfUM/H3YUTD761rEXy66YOTyWqT3IAoP7t I4YLWccdrmkevSkhTEuC15Lw =GGW6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Anyone played with socks servers?
On February 8, 2002 05:52 pm, Federico Voges wrote: > All I can tell you is that ICQ (Windoze & MacOS) works. I'm using it in > my router/firewall and I can send and receive files behind the > firewall. > BTW, if you need info seting ICQ, I can help you with that (there are > a few tricky settings for the Windoze client)... ICQ is currently setup to use the local socks server and that's working fine so I'd imagine a switchover can't be much of a change. David Aikema ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Disk Activity
begin Michael Hipp's quote: | New mobo (P4 1.7 GHz, 256M, 845 Intel chipset w/DDR memory, 2 IDE | hds on chan #0). Ext2 filesystem, tho I have an Elx partition | mounted that is ReiserFS and also a vfat Win partition. Not sure | what you're asking specifically about swap but 'free' says: | total used free sharedbuffers | cached Mem:255532 184120 71412 1024 | 3196 95168 -/+ buffers/cache: 85756 169776 | Swap: 321260 0 321260 hmmm. how often does reiser write to the journal? also, what happens if you unplug the second drive? finally, if you *watch* top, does anything change when the disk access takes place? -- dep There is sobbing of the strong, And a pall upon the land; But the People in their weeping Bare the iron hand; Beware the People weeping When they bare the iron hand. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Anyone played with socks servers?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, All I can tell you is that ICQ (Windoze & MacOS) works. I'm using it in my router/firewall and I can send and receive files behind the firewall. BTW, if you need info seting ICQ, I can help you with that (there are a few tricky settings for the Windoze client)... On Fri, 08 Feb 2002 16:52:45 -0800, David Aikema wrote: >On February 7, 2002 10:27 pm, Federico Voges wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I've been using NEC's reference implementation of socks5 for over a >> year without problems. >> Easy to install, easy to configure, it works, I'm happy with it :) >> >> You can download from http://www.socks.nec.com/reference/socks5.html >> >> The con: NON-COMMERCIAL USE ONLY :( > >Thanks for the suggestion. > >One thing I noticed when browsing the site was this: >"The software supports only those UDP applications that perform simple query >and reply functions." > >I know that some of the stuff I'm doing involves UDP, but as I don't have the >source for the program I'm not totally sure if it fits into the "simple query >and reply" category. I guess there's only one way to find out though. > >David Aikema >___ >Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users >Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. Federico Voges Socio gerente Intrasoft Malabia 2137 14 A (1425) Buenos Aires Argentina Te/Fax: 54-11-4833-5182 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.intrasoft.com.ar PGP Public Key Fingerprint: A536 4595 EB6F D197 FBC1 5C3A 145C 2516 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPGSA4xRcJRaVKt4XEQJJvQCgkLn0WW8RezOpj7vVp8E3AMI0tY0AniFh FuWDA6Do3XXh75IGm/Xieg0V =kjhl -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Hidden directory contents in fstab-mounted Windows partition
On Thursday 07 Feb 2002 18:25, Peter Ruskin wrote: > On Monday 28 Jan 2002 23:46, Peter Ruskin wrote: > > I multiboot: Win98, Mandrake 8.1, Mandrake Cooker, Redmond and > > sometimes ELX. [...] > But as a boot manager it's obviously flawed. As soon as I disabled it > and put back PowerQuest's Boot Magic I could see everything. Bug > report on it's way to Acronis. I take it all back! By default Acronis hides the Program Files and Windows folders until **that** operating system loads. There is a setting that disables this behaviour. Wow - it's an excellent product - far superior to Partition Magic at a fraction of the cost. -- Peter Ruskin, Wrexham, Wales. AMD Athlon XP 1600+, 512MB RAM. Registered Linux User 219434. Mandrake Linux release 8.1 (Vitamin) Kernel 2.4.8-34.1mdk-win4lin, XFree86 4.1.0, patch level 21mdk. KDE: 2.2.2. Qt: 2.3.2. Up 3 hours 42 minutes. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Disk Activity
New mobo (P4 1.7 GHz, 256M, 845 Intel chipset w/DDR memory, 2 IDE hds on chan #0). Ext2 filesystem, tho I have an Elx partition mounted that is ReiserFS and also a vfat Win partition. Not sure what you're asking specifically about swap but 'free' says: total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:255532 184120 71412 1024 3196 95168 -/+ buffers/cache: 85756 169776 Swap: 321260 0 321260 First few lines of 'Top': PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND 1024 root 17 0 64904 14M 2672 R 2.3 5.9 0:44 X 1429 michael 13 0 10012 9.8M 9016 R 0.9 3.9 0:01 kdeinit 1140 michael 10 0 17604 17M 12960 R 0.5 6.8 0:26 kmail 1440 michael 11 0 1016 1016 780 R 0.5 0.3 0:01 top 1124 michael 11 0 7452 7448 5672 S 0.3 2.9 0:36 hotpluguid 1125 michael9 0 9464 9464 8540 S 0.1 3.7 0:11 kdeinit 1 root 9 0 476 476 416 S 0.0 0.1 0:03 init 2 root 9 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 keventd 3 root 19 19 00 0 SWN 0.0 0.0 0:00 ksoftirqd_CPU0 4 root 9 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 kswapd 5 root 9 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 kreclaimd 6 root 9 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 bdflush 7 root 9 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 kupdated 8 root -1 -20 00 0 SW< 0.0 0.0 0:00 mdrecoveryd 92 root 9 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 khubd 169 root 9 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 kreiserfsd 378 root 9 0 1012 1012 708 S 0.0 0.3 0:00 dhclient 556 root 9 0 660 660 548 S 0.0 0.2 0:00 syslogd 559 root 9 0 1200 1200 452 S 0.0 0.4 0:00 klogd 594 root 9 0 548 548 424 S 0.0 0.2 0:00 hotplugd 708 nobody 9 0 756 756 612 S 0.0 0.2 0:00 rpc.portmap 714 root 9 0 668 668 572 S 0.0 0.2 0:00 inetd 738 root 9 0 1520 1520 1236 S 0.0 0.5 0:00 amd 750 root 9 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 rpciod Any ideas appreciated. dep pontificated eloquently: > begin Michael Hipp's quote: > | Something is continually strobing my hard disk about 1/second all > | the time I'm logged into KDE. Seems excessive. > | > | Is this "normal"? How could I track down which process is doing it? > > first, what hardware are you running? how do you have swap configured? > what filesystem are you using? > > second, open a konsole window and run top. look to see what if > anything is sucking resources (i have suspects based on experiences > here, but i'll not offer 'em up just yet), as well as its appraisal > of what's going on with memory and swap. -- Michael R. Hipp "The more corrupt the State the more numerous the laws." -Roman historian Cornelius Tacitus ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
an unintentional hoot
looks as if internet tourist guy is now in salt lake city -- and the connection is not being made. or else one hell of a coincidence: http://www.drudgereport.com/ -- dep There is sobbing of the strong, And a pall upon the land; But the People in their weeping Bare the iron hand; Beware the People weeping When they bare the iron hand. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Disk Activity
begin Michael Hipp's quote: | Something is continually strobing my hard disk about 1/second all | the time I'm logged into KDE. Seems excessive. | | Is this "normal"? How could I track down which process is doing it? first, what hardware are you running? how do you have swap configured? what filesystem are you using? second, open a konsole window and run top. look to see what if anything is sucking resources (i have suspects based on experiences here, but i'll not offer 'em up just yet), as well as its appraisal of what's going on with memory and swap. -- dep There is sobbing of the strong, And a pall upon the land; But the People in their weeping Bare the iron hand; Beware the People weeping When they bare the iron hand. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Anyone played with socks servers?
On February 7, 2002 10:27 pm, Federico Voges wrote: > Hi, > > I've been using NEC's reference implementation of socks5 for over a > year without problems. > Easy to install, easy to configure, it works, I'm happy with it :) > > You can download from http://www.socks.nec.com/reference/socks5.html > > The con: NON-COMMERCIAL USE ONLY :( Thanks for the suggestion. One thing I noticed when browsing the site was this: "The software supports only those UDP applications that perform simple query and reply functions." I know that some of the stuff I'm doing involves UDP, but as I don't have the source for the program I'm not totally sure if it fits into the "simple query and reply" category. I guess there's only one way to find out though. David Aikema ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Disk Activity
Something is continually strobing my hard disk about 1/second all the time I'm logged into KDE. Seems excessive. Is this "normal"? How could I track down which process is doing it? Thanks. -- Michael R. Hipp "The more corrupt the State the more numerous the laws." -Roman historian Cornelius Tacitus ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: procmail just stopped
OK. I just remembered. I was fooling around with permissions on my home directory last night. Although it is not blazened everywhere, the permissions of the directory where .forward resides have to be restrictive. I had made my home directory world writeable (not smart) while trying to fix a samba problem. So, I changed my permissions back to normal on my home directory and all is working again. Naturally, I neglected to look in /var/log/mail in which there were multiple error messages spelling this out. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
procmail just stopped
For reasons that escape me (thus this email), last evening procmail just stopped working. Nothing happened as far as I know. sendmail and all works but I am getting all mail in my default mailbox. proclog shows no activity since last night. Here is my .forward file: "|exec /usr/bin/procmail" procmail exists and runs from the command line. .procmailrc exists and has not been changed lately. Any insight appreciated. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Sendemi...???
Title: Yalnýz Kalma... Yalnýzlýktan sýkýldýnýz mý? Hepimiz zaman zaman bir dosta, bir sevgiliye ya da bir dert ortaðýna ihtiyaç duymuþuzdur deðil mi ? Peki ya o dostun sizlere bir click ötede olduðunu söylersem ne dersiniz? Þimdi sizlere bahsedeceðim sitede, yüzbinlerce erkek ve kýz derdinizi paylaþmak için hazýr bekliyor. Bu siteye üye olursanýz yalnýzlýðýnýza bir son verecek belki de yeni bir sevgili bulacaksýnýz. Sitenin yaklaþýk 50.000 Türk üyesi bulunuyor ve herbiri Türkiye'nin deðiþik yerlerinden erkek ya da bayanlar. Bu site ücretsiz olarak faaliyet gösteriyor yani ne kredi kartý ne de önemli bilgiler vermeniz gerekir. Yalnýzca kendinizi tanýtýp, ömür boyu sürecek dostluklar kuracaksýnýz. Siteye üye olmak hakkýnda ayrýntýlý bilgi için sitelerimiz : SÝTELERÝMÝZ : Biri çalýþmassa diðerini deneyebilirsiniz. SÝTE 1 SÝTE 2 SÝTE 3 SÝTE 4 SÝTE 5 SÝTE 6 Eðer bir daha bizden e-mail almak istemiyorsanýz lütfen bu maila subject kýsmýna emailinizi yazarak bos bir mailla cevap veriniz.Ýyi günler.. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: kernel recommendations
Typing furiously on February 07, Collins managed to emit: > I've been off the linux lists for a couple of weeks. > > Is 2.4.17 a "safe" kernel for upgrading? I've used it without incident. Kurt ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.