RE: network/ limited number of ips
>I prevent this by using iptables and only accepting known MAC addresses. >However, this will _not_ prevent someone from reconfiguring their MAC >address (i.e., doing a MAC address takeover) and breaking into your net, >but it does make it a little more difficult. Combine that with WEP and >you should be OK against 99% of folks who want to try to break in. This is what I am looking for. Thanks. >but I'd suggest using bootp rather than dhcp or static IPs. Why bootp? Roger Sorry am that last email...darn laptops! ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: network/ limited number of ips
-Original Message- From: David A. Bandel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 8:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: network/ limited number of ips On Fri, 18 Jan 2002 07:37:10 -0600 "Schmeits, Roger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed into the bitstream: [snip] > > >the internet using a single public ip address and an access list of > >internal ip's that you assign. If it's an ip address not allowed to be > >masqueraded, then nobody can "steal services" from you. A good reason > >to stay away from DHCP and use fixed addressing. > > With the cisco 350 I can register the network cards by MAC address. > Preventing anyone from stealing a ip address. I prevent this by using iptables and only accepting known MAC addresses. However, this will _not_ prevent someone from reconfiguring their MAC address (i.e., doing a MAC address takeover) and breaking into your net, but it does make it a little more difficult. Combine that with WEP and you should be OK against 99% of folks who want to try to break in. > > > >40 ip addresses should be a no brainer to administer. > I am terrible lazy... no cure for this, but I'd suggest using bootp rather than dhcp or static IPs. Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto Internet (H323) phone: 206.28.187.30 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: network/ limited number of ips
>I don't know how much about wireless. Certainly it's easier, but probably more >expensive and maybe less secure (at least you'd have to think about those >things). We are still thinking about how to lay things out yet wireless vs. LAN. so far wireless is cheaper. for some oddball reason it is very expensive to hardwire the building. I have heard figures at forty grand??? >It shouldn't be terribly hard to wire the building yourself, depending on how >it's built. I'd be happy to offer advice about that. I would think it would >only take a week or less, and less than $4000 in equipment. I have never anything so I am out of my league on that one.. >If you do get DSL, the Cisco 678 you'll get will do NAT, DHCP, and packet >filtering (a little) for you. I will look at that !! Thanks. >You may still have use for a Linux >router/firewall box, but you probably don't need static IP addresses. The one >dynamic one that comes with basic service will probably do. If you want to run >servers, that's a different story, but just to get students on the net you don't >need your own block of IPs. I am just itching' to bring Linux in here ..we are all Microsoft. >I don't see any reason to run your own servers. There are plenty of free email >services where students can get accounts (maybe even from the school). If you >let the DSL modem do DHCP, you won't have to worry about DNS and such too much. Thats all takin care. Running Imail on a NT box. >Admittedly I've never done this on this scale, so there may be problems I don't >forsee. But I have done some shoestring installs like this before. I think I am going to find out! Thanks Dave for the input! Roger ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: network/ limited number of ips
>Way, way too much overkill. You certainly don't need 6 access points, >especially at over a grand each for Cisco. Youre right 3 is more than enough. I was just throwing numbers out there ... it is early in the project you know. >them all a unique ESSID if you want precise control, patch each one into >your physical network and use a single linux box to masquerade them to the building is one block away from our main campus and it has no network wiring in it. I have to start from zero on the network side. That why I say wireless fairly easily to setup.. >the internet using a single public ip address and an access list of >internal ip's that you assign. If it's an ip address not allowed to be >masqueraded, then nobody can "steal services" from you. A good reason to >stay away from DHCP and use fixed addressing. With the cisco 350 I can register the network cards by MAC address. Preventing anyone from stealing a ip address. >40 ip addresses should be a no brainer to administer. I am terrible lazy... some of the students will be using laptops in this building and on the main campus. Roaming laptops.. I was hoping I could register the MAC (with the Aironet) on student housding building and the main campus. We are a small school so chances are I can get by with this.. Thanks for the input! ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
network/ limited number of ips
Got a question... We have a student housing building that has about 40 students. We have been wanting to wire the building but the cost has always stopped us ($4). I have been playing with the idea of using 5 or 6 Cisco aironet 350 access points and have the students purchase a PCI wireless card for their machine. For our Internet connection we are in the process of contacting Qwest for a business line. At this time I do not know at the details for a Internet connection. Mainly how many IP's we would get, cost, bandwidth, etc. Knowing all of that - How can a person setup a machine linux running to act as a NAT (???)/DHCP server when you have only been assigned anywhere from one to six IP's addresses? How does one tackles such a situation? Or better yet which HOW-TO's to I read? Roger ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
vpn
If your looking for a vpn site this one looks pretty good... http://www.vpnlabs.org ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
mail test route
If you need to test your mail settings and want to see if it works. Try an empty email to the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] If your connection is valid it will spit it right back at you. If not you will not receive your email back. Comes in handy for testing purposes. Roger ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
12 steps
I found this extremely funny simply because I have been in AA for several years. good for a chuckle. http://www.cio.com/archive/010102/shop.html Roger ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: joydesk
I am surpised that they have no listserv at all. Rats.. I find their prices very reasonable for 125 clients. Around $2200 with a 2 year supprt contract with all the bells and whistles. the wireless would be nice PDAs keep coming up in the conversion around (education you know..). Wonder if anyone has done any reviews-- CNET, etc on this company? -Original Message- From: Tim Wunder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 2:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: joydesk Schmeits, Roger wrote: > Does anyone know much about this company? http://www.joydesk.com We were > possibility looking at the Business Edition 2.6 for a replacement of our MS > Exchange 5.5 email/groupware. I know nothing other than what their website says. I found out about them while searching for groupware using google. So I, too, would be interested if anybody on list knows anything about them. Regards, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
joydesk
Does anyone know much about this company? http://www.joydesk.com We were possibility looking at the Business Edition 2.6 for a replacement of our MS Exchange 5.5 email/groupware. Roger Schmeits System Analyst Clarkson College Omaha, NE USA 402.552.2542 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: Searching for a distro...
Look at this: http://www.shockley.net/obsd-bootcd.asp Roger -Original Message- From: Condon Thomas A KPWA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 3:25 PM To: Linux Users (E-mail) Subject: Searching for a distro... I'm looking for a distro that will boot from either a floppy or CD, recognize a SCSI raid system, allow me to mount the partitions thereof, r/w to NTFS (NT4 version) and burn CDs on an IDE CDRW. I'd be quite happy with a command line interface instead of GUI. The purpose is to copy some file systems to CD and make a quicker install method than trying to set up four CPUs exactly the same on several systems (4 CPUs each). I've been having troubles getting the usual small distros to work under these conditions. Would anyone out there have some recommendations for such a distro? In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord, Tom :-}) +--+ | Thomas A. Condonemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Computer Engineer phone: (360) 315-7609| | Barbershop Bass SingerSailor and Singer of Chanties | | Left Handed and In My Right Mind | +--+ /"\ \ / X ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN - AGAINST HTML MAIL / \ ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: Windows (OT)
>Is it possible to get Windows NT and 2000 to coexist on the same hard >drive? I've heard that NT won't reside with another OS. That is not true. I have sit up triple boot systems running NT workstation, win2k and Linux. You just have install windows first which make it easier down the road to manage. Just make sure you create boot disks for all os sytems just in case (which you will need them). Roger ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: The dangers of surfing with windoze
I took a security class from www.sans.org couple of months ago and found out the thin layer of protection that people when they surf the net. It is very scary and frighting on the differnt tools that are out there. Alot of those tools are for script kiddies which is not rocket science to run. There are some nasty people out there... Roger -Original Message- From: Declan Moriarty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 2:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The dangers of surfing with windoze I got an insight into this recently from my son. (Tip: If you really want to find out about the 'net - ask a teenager) This guy has to deal with 'lamers' who try to use the myriad of tools for hacking under Dos/Win. For the unwary, they're impressive. To the networking type, they're easily dealt with. Seeing as there was recently a discussion about winmodems, this may be of relevance Netbus: (Can be packaged onto a jpg). You click on the jpg, it runs! When online, the hacker can open and close cdrom, swap mouse buttons, show pics onscreen, d/l your screen, shut windows, etc. Assniffer: A tool for identifying the dynamic IP assigned to someone while online. iptracer: ditto. This done, with the small netbus or back orifice (below)installed, you are up for grabs by the hacker. portlistener: does what it says. BackOrifice: A similar invasion technique to Netbus - easier to land them with, but less capable. Scripts: Myriads of scripts for IRC channels - varying effectiveness These are free for download on 'lame hacker' websites, mainly places which boast of their hacking prowess. Only a 'lamer' uses Dos/win tools, I'm informed. I might add my son doesn't use these, he just has some of them and has done the research. -- Regards, Declan Moriarty Applied Researches - Ireland's Foremost Electronic Hardware Genius A Slightly Serious(TM) Company Experience is like a comb, that Life gives you - AFTER all your hair has fallen out! ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: question for security gurus
got try www.sans.org. They often list the most common security holes in
companies and weaknesses in desktops, poliocies, and a whole bunch of stuff.
I took a security class with company (online courses that is) and this is a
top notch site with excellent classes if you are serious. there prices are
not terribly bad. Lots of good articles on various types of weaknesses.
roger
-Original Message-
From: Douglas J Hunley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 5:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: question for security gurus
If I was to start some side consulting as a Network Security Analyzer, what
tools/steps/methodologies would everyone recommend? Opensource would be
best,
but I'm open to anything. I've made some recommendations to my firm (who
wants to go down this path) but I thought I'd get some more info from those
"in the know".
Basically, they want to be able to approach company XYZ, and sell them a
"Security Assesment" service. What machines are exposed to Internet, what
holes they have, what services are available to whom on the Internet. Can we
DoS you, DNS poisoning, zone xfers, known holes, etc..
thanks in advance!
--
Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778
Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf
printk("MASQUERADE: No route: Rusty's brain broke!\n");
2.4.3 linux/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_MASQUERADE.c
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RE: Questions about moving from Win2k to SUSE 7.3 Pro (Long)
>And vmware is very easy to set up. Just out of curosity was that a laptop or a desktop? Did you create a virtual OS (if I recollect correctly) or did you use a preinstalled OS system? How is the performance? I looked at putting it on a laptop and it turned into a of work. Mabye I will have to try again... Thanks. -- +--- -+ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 01/07/02 08:39 + +--- -+ "Today is a good day to bribe a high-ranking public official." ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: Questions about moving from Win2k to SUSE 7.3 Pro (Long)
I have a winmodem in this laptop and it works -- the performance is sucky at best. My advice ist to build a firewall (www.smoothwall.org) with an dialup modem and use an ethernet card on your laptop. You might want to check out the winmodem listserv best on that one. I also looked at Vmware on a laptop and I would not recommend it. Gets too complicated and messy. On a desktop it might be ok but not a laptop. dont get me wrong it can be done but to much work for me (not enouh time in the day I guess). Roger ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: Linux Tutorials On-line or downloadable
Shane, Checkout http:\\rute.sourceforge.net which is free and downloadable - very good book espically if you all ready have a windows background. Purchase the book if you can this will not go out of date because everything is from the command line.Another one is http:\\www.informit.com -- you have to register but the have lots of free articles/books and you can also purchase if you need to. Roger > -Original Message- > From: Shane Broomhall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 5:03 AM > To: Suse-Linux-E; Linux-Users; Linux-Thinkpad > Subject: Linux Tutorials On-line or downloadable > > > Hi all , > > I am planning on moving from Windows 2000 to linux with in the next month. > I have basic linux skills, but I am by no means a competent user. I am > hoping that people on this list will be able to point me towards on-line > or downloadable tutorials or books that will help me increase my > knowledge. I am familar with linuxdoc.org, and i will be getting the > latest copy of the howtos before I move across. > > But does anyone have any resources for learning scripting, html, C++ > programming, or linux configuration. Some kind of scripting that I can use > to filter my mail and so on would be nice. I have the ability to purchase > hard cover books and have many, but as they go out of date so soon, I am > hoping for free resources. I would be willing to join an online library > if I can download the books. > > Thanks in advance. > > Shane Broomhall > > Brisbane Australia ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: exchange 5.5
I found this ..I dont know it it has any potential. http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Qmail-VMailMgr-Courier-imap-HOWTO.html -Original Message- From: Tim Wunder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 1:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: exchange 5.5 Schmeits, Roger wrote: > What is similar in the Linux world for a replacement of Exchange 5.5? Group > scheduling, email, resources planning (i.e. room scheduling). > > Oh yeah... You may find this link useful: http://nexist.sourceforge.net/groupware.html Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: patches/updates
I was always under the assumption that you had to paid for the service in order to use the automated tools. I might be wrong. wouldn't be the first (orlast for that matter). thanks -Original Message- From: Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 11:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: patches/updates "Schmeits, Roger" wrote: > > How does one handle packages updates on Linux servers? I have noticed on > Redhat you pay a subscribition fee whereas Caldera it is a free service. > Beginning relatively green yet I find myself uncomfortable/ignorant on > applying patches/updates to Linux distros. How does one handle this > situation in a production environment without breaking other programs? I think, the subscription to the Redhat service involves them actually tracking what versions of redhat you are running on what systems and notifying you by email when an update is needed. There is also a daemon or cron driven periodic check for or something of that nature. I believe you can update Redhat (at least you could with 7.1) for free, by using 'up2date'. -- Linux SxS [http://sxs.webhop.net] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
exchange 5.5
What is similar in the Linux world for a replacement of Exchange 5.5? Group scheduling, email, resources planning (i.e. room scheduling). Roger ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
patches/updates
How does one handle packages updates on Linux servers? I have noticed on Redhat you pay a subscribition fee whereas Caldera it is a free service. Beginning relatively green yet I find myself uncomfortable/ignorant on applying patches/updates to Linux distros. How does one handle this situation in a production environment without breaking other programs? Roger ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: wireless recommendations
sorry your right .. -Original Message- From: David Aikema [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 11:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: wireless recommendations On December 26, 2001 07:24 am, Schmeits, Roger wrote: > I am finally breaking down and I'm getting a @Home DSL connection in my > house. uh @home dsl??? Don't they only do cable connections? Definitely a cool thing to have though (I don't know how I'd survive w/o it anymore) David Aikema ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
wireless recommendations
I am finally breaking down and I'm getting a @Home DSL connection in my house. Would like to run an wireless access point and a wireless card om my laptop. Does anyone have any preferences to what vendor(s) work well or don't work well with Linux? Are there any Linux distros that have wireless complied into the kernel? Roger ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: Fwd: Which One?
> > I am a SysAdmin, but mainly management, and in an NT/Exchange > > environment. I manage about 10 NT servers running a variety of MS apps . Linux is a totally different animal. At times I find the learning curve absolutely infuriating. And I mean at the command line not the pretty GUIs that one can download and install or whatever. Studying for my MCSE was a breeze in comparsion to really learn Linux. Sssh. Please dont tell anyone on the list. My currently project is creating Linux from scratch which looks like an excellent way to learn the basic concepts on how Linux operates. I am no means a rocket scientist by I get humbled by Linux everyday. I have found out through the listservs is that one must maintain a stance of being a student and always learning. I wish I could post answers on Linux questions but I lack that knowledge that everyone else seems to have. > > I sense that to learn what it is all about, I need to practice a > > lot, compiling and recompiling kernels (I don't know anything about > > programming beyond the Hello World stuff; basic shell scripts) and > > figuring out how to download/install different applications. I'd > > like to learn VI, Emacs etc., as well. Here is a very good book that will help learn the basics. http://rute.sourceforge.net/ With a strong Windows backgroud I am a total moron when it comes to the command line. but Iam trying very hard to change that. When I get frusted with Linux I often reache for the GUIs just because of what I was taught in the windows world. With Linux you have to hit the documenation and the list servs to find out how something works. The command line is where the real power lies and on how to truely run it to its fullest extent. > > and try to introduce some features that Linux offers in my work > > environment, I'd like to be able to use the NSA secure kernel. In my expierence stick with main stream distros. Redhat, Suse,etc. With the slimmed down kernels you have to damn expert to get some of that stuff to work. Stick with a ditros that keeps up with the latest and greatest trends in the open source movement. Espically for beginners. You could be hanging from the ceiling and not even know it. Roger P.S. Why I am learning linux? Beats me... Just a curious fellow I guess. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: Is this a Caldera list?
RH 7.1 on a Compaq laptop. Will started building a Linux from Scratch here in the next few days on my third partition. Have been trying to teach myself Linux and thought this would be a good route to go. I have played with all distros but have not figured how to to install Debain. That will be my someday project. Got lots of the projects - too many!!!. roger -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 8:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is this a Caldera list? Michael Scottaline wrote: % On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 02:26:31 + (UTC) % Anita Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: % % > Sorry. Possibly a dumb question, but I saw a lot of Caldera stuff here % > and just wondered if this list is distro specific. % > % > Thanks. Anita % % Nah..., not distro specific; but there are many here who started on the % Caldera List, and many still use Caldera. You'll find gentoo, mandrake, % SuSE, and RH users here also (sorry if I left any out). All linux users % are welcome. Mike Slackware here. Kurt -- Electrocution, n.: Burning at the stake with all the modern improvements. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Sharity
Has anybody tried this product? Does it work ok? Comments? http://www.obdev.at/products/sharity/index.html Roger ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: laptops
I am running Redhat 7.1 on a Compaq Armada e500 (dual boot to Win2k) and have been very happy with it. Will eventually get vmware running some day to bridge the two operating systems. roger -Original Message- From: Declan Moriarty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 4:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: laptops On Saturday 15 December 2001 01:55, you wrote: > It looks like we'll be able to buy a Linux laptop next year at work. Any > recommendations? I thought IBM had them, but I couldn't find it on their > site anymore. Dell seem good and have few mentions on problem lists - Thinkpads are fine, except for apm, which is a disaster area. If the company is buying, how about Toshiba? Siemens are coming in with cheap offerings if your boss is a cheapskate, and HP stand out for battery life. Options are fewer here. There's a linux laptop page with links on just about everything, and pages by guys who own one and praise or attack it. -- Regards, Declan Moriarty Applied Researches - Ireland's Foremost Electronic Hardware Genius A Slightly Serious(TM) Company Success covers a multitude of blunders - G.B. Shaw. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: Deception Toolkit
>The Deception Toolkit >http://www.all.net/dtk/ Is your url right? It goes nowhere. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: Linux for Luggable 'downgrade'?
Hey I got an DECpc 150 Alpha that we retired one year ago. Just stilling there - 2gig HD 128meg ram 2gig 4mm DAT drive. Anyone have any sugegstions what I should run on this monster??? -Original Message- From: dallam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 1:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Linux for Luggable 'downgrade'? Hi Declan, It sounds interesting. Just two weeks ago I came across an old DEC 386 that the former owner was quite happy to give to me. I look forward to trying out a few on the mini linuxes on it as well. It will probably be after the holidays though, as I am gathering the pieces together to finally attempt to network the pc's here. Was glad to hear that someone else had an interest in the older machines as well, Dallam On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 06:05:37PM +, Declan Moriarty wrote: > You've all heard of pc upgrades; I've just fluttered a few quid on a > downgrade. Exact specs (Intel)'386, 4MB, 40MB HD, ISA bus, cga (sub > hercules) orange screen. > The miniature linuxes I've tried are: Tomsrtbt - fine, but inscrutable and > difficult to modify; mulinux - d/l'ed something, got past the tar command but > hung on the make, and lost intest 'cos I got busy. I don't mind a console > only interface, but a version of X would be better >Declan Moriarty -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=---=-=-=-=-=-=- Registered Linux User #213656 access to power must be limited to those who are not in love with it --Plato ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: backup routines/etc.
Thanks for the info. The links are great and the tips -Original Message- From: Keith Morse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 10:51 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re: backup routines/etc. On Thu, 25 Oct 2001, Schmeits, Roger wrote: > Does anyone have preference for DAT drives, backup software, > hardware config.? > > I have about 8 servers with several drives that I backup nightly which about > 50gig per night. > Currently we are using ArcServe 6.6 on NT 4.0 with 12/24 dat drives. It > works ok but I have to > baby-sit it about once every three months. Is there anything in the Linux > world that is comparable?? > Platforms covers Microsoft NT 4.0, win2k, Exchange 5.5., MS SQL2000, Linux > Redhat 7.1, and a variety of Sybase DB's. > In light of Sept.11 our org. is re-evaluating our backup routine and what it > would that you recover if necessary. My opinion is that 50GB is large enough to warrant some type of tape library and a software frontend that manages it and the tapes used for backup. I currently am responsible for managing backups for an enviroment that is comprised of roughly 100 Sun Microsystems computers of various flavours and about 8 WINnt hosts thrown in for good measure. This is driven by a Sun Enterprise 420R with 4 cpu's and 4GB of ram with a Quantum/ATL 7100 (4 DLT 700 Drives installed, 7 possible, with 100 tapes available) using Veritas's Netbackup Datacenter Software. Serious overkill for this environment, but Marketing's expectations were bigger than the public's willingness to participate. One aspect I particularly like about Netbackup is that it uses gnu-tar to write the data to tape, so if your database of backup's gets mucked up you can still recover backups with standard unix commands. I know they support all the OS's you listed above. And I believe they have a server product that works on linux. Also another one I've been pleasantly with is Arkeia. With your experience with ArcServe, my opinion is that you can pick it up rather quickly. I've only worked with the downloadable evaluation version. The interface is straight forward but can't get a feel for it's networked capabilities. The other route is the total free one, price but not labor. Amanda is one. Customized scripts using standard unix commands are another. Check out www.backupcentral.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
backup routines/etc.
Does anyone have preference for DAT drives, backup software, hardware config.? I have about 8 servers with several drives that I backup nightly which about 50gig per night. Currently we are using ArcServe 6.6 on NT 4.0 with 12/24 dat drives. It works ok but I have to baby-sit it about once every three months. Is there anything in the Linux world that is comparable?? Platforms covers Microsoft NT 4.0, win2k, Exchange 5.5., MS SQL2000, Linux Redhat 7.1, and a variety of Sybase DB's. In light of Sept.11 our org. is re-evaluating our backup routine and what it would that you recover if necessary. Roger ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Raid and or Journaling
Has anyone had good luck using Linux Software RAID? Has anyone had good luck running Reiser or JFS or Ext3 or other journaling file systems with Linux? If so, what distribution are you running and how many users? Also is it for file serving, web serving, database serving, mail serving or combined? ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
file systems
Has anyone had good luck using Linux Software RAID? Has anyone had good luck running Reiser or JFS or Ext3 or other journaling file systems with Linux? If so, what distribution are you running and how many users? Also is it for file serving, web serving, database serving, mail serving or combined? ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
