Re: Mailman=-> Part duex....

2001-10-31 Thread Bill Day

YO DOUG!!  I did it its all working now..

On Wednesday 31 October 2001 17:15, you were heard blurting out:
> This is the only way I can get this to configure
> But why is group nobody in control of my cgi-gid for webserver...(Stock
> Caldera install with Apache 1.3.x)
>
> ./configure --prefix=/opt/mailman --with-mail-gid=daemon
> --with-cgi-gid=nobody
>
> Worked with out and error
>
> On Wednesday 31 October 2001 17:08, you were heard blurting out:
> > O.K., user/group mailman are gone, so I everything that wasin
> > /mailman-2.0.6/ src directory and /opt/mailman
> >
> > made newuser/group mailman and also created /opt/mailman
> >
> > Now, this is what I plan on using for my ./config..
> > ./configure --prefix=/opt/mailman --with-mail-gid=daemon
> > --with-cgi-gid=http
> >
> > daemon cause you said so.. http cause it controls apache...
> >
> > Gonna let her rip...

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Re: Mailman=-> Part duex....

2001-10-31 Thread Bill Day

This is the only way I can get this to configure
But why is group nobody in control of my cgi-gid for webserver...(Stock 
Caldera install with Apache 1.3.x)

./configure --prefix=/opt/mailman --with-mail-gid=daemon 
--with-cgi-gid=nobody 

Worked with out and error


On Wednesday 31 October 2001 17:08, you were heard blurting out:
> O.K., user/group mailman are gone, so I everything that wasin
> /mailman-2.0.6/ src directory and /opt/mailman
>
> made newuser/group mailman and also created /opt/mailman
>
> Now, this is what I plan on using for my ./config..
> ./configure --prefix=/opt/mailman --with-mail-gid=daemon
> --with-cgi-gid=http
>
> daemon cause you said so.. http cause it controls apache...
>
> Gonna let her rip...

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Re: Mailman

2001-10-31 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Bill Day babbled on about:
> Also guuess I should add this in as well...
>
> appears in tail -f /var/log/mail:
> Oct 31 11:35:27 linuxbox Mailman cgi-wrapper (listinfo): Failure to exec
> script. WANTED gid 55, GOT gid 65534.  (Reconfigure to take 65534?)
>

err?

methinks you need to back up, slow down, start over. one step at a time
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Re: Mailman

2001-10-31 Thread Bill Day

Also guuess I should add this in as well...

appears in tail -f /var/log/mail:
Oct 31 11:35:27 linuxbox Mailman cgi-wrapper (listinfo): Failure to exec 
script. WANTED gid 55, GOT gid 65534.  (Reconfigure to take 65534?)

Appears in tail -f /var/log/httpd/access_log:
192.168.0.2 - - [31/Oct/2001:12:38:15 -0500] "GET /mailman/listinfo/test 
HTTP/1.1" 200 530
192.168.0.2 - - [31/Oct/2001:12:38:18 -0500] "GET /mailman/listinfo/test 
HTTP/1.1" 200 530
192.168.0.2 - - [31/Oct/2001:12:38:30 -0500] "GET /mailman/listinfo/ 
HTTP/1.1" 200 530

Appears in tail -f /var/log/cron:
Oct 31 13:40:01 linuxbox CRON[28523]: (mailman) CMD (/usr/bin/python -S 
/opt/mailman/cron/gate_news)#Every 5 minutes
Oct 31 13:41:01 linuxbox CRON[28525]: (mailman) CMD (/usr/bin/python -S 
/opt/mailman/cron/qrunner)  #Every 1 minute


On Wednesday 31 October 2001 13:44, you were heard blurting out:
> [root@linuxbox mailman-2.0.6]# grep Group /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf
> # User/Group: The name (or #number) of the user/group to run httpd as.
> #  . On SCO (ODT 3) use "User nouser" and "Group nogroup".
> #  NOTE that some kernels refuse to setgid(Group) or semctl(IPC_SET)
> #  when the value of (unsigned)Group is above 6;
> #  don't use Group nobody on these systems!
> Group nobody
>
> So I try the install with group daemon and nobody..:
>
> ./configure --prefix=/opt/mailman
> --with-mail-gid=daemon --with-cgi-gid=nobody checking for mail wrapper
> GID...
> configure: error:
> * No existing group found for the mail_wrapper program.
> * This is the group that your mail delivery agent runs under, and
> * uses to run filter programs.  You might want to specify an
> * existing group with the --with-mail-gid configure option.
> * Please see your mail agent's documentation, and the INSTALL file
> * for details
>
> nobody value for gid is 65534
>
> Also tried this:
>
> ./configure --prefix=/opt/mailman
> --with-mail-gid=nobody --with-cgi-gid=http checking for mail wrapper GID...
> configure: error:
> * No existing group found for the mail_wrapper program.
> * This is the group that your mail delivery agent runs under, and
> * uses to run filter programs.  You might want to specify an
> * existing group with the --with-mail-gid configure option.
> * Please see your mail agent's documentation, and the INSTALL file
> * for details
>
> It alwaysfails for mail_wrapper program... can find no referneces to
> mail_wrapper either.. so I  guess this is a symlink of some sort I need to
> setup... to sendmails wrapper...?
>
> I have found a wrapper in /usr/libexec/sendmail that is currently ln -s to
> /opt/mailman/wrapper from my first setup...
>
> h
>
>
>
> On Wednesday 31 October 2001 12:50, you were heard blurting out:
> 
>
> > try 'daemon' for the mail GID.
> > what does this command return:
> > grep Group /path/to/apache/conf/httpd.conf

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Re: Mailman

2001-10-31 Thread Bill Day

[root@linuxbox mailman-2.0.6]# grep Group /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf
# User/Group: The name (or #number) of the user/group to run httpd as.
#  . On SCO (ODT 3) use "User nouser" and "Group nogroup".
#  NOTE that some kernels refuse to setgid(Group) or semctl(IPC_SET)
#  when the value of (unsigned)Group is above 6;
#  don't use Group nobody on these systems!
Group nobody

So I try the install with group daemon and nobody..:

./configure --prefix=/opt/mailman --with-mail-gid=daemon --with-cgi-gid=nobody
checking for mail wrapper GID...
configure: error:
* No existing group found for the mail_wrapper program.
* This is the group that your mail delivery agent runs under, and
* uses to run filter programs.  You might want to specify an
* existing group with the --with-mail-gid configure option.
* Please see your mail agent's documentation, and the INSTALL file
* for details

nobody value for gid is 65534

Also tried this:

./configure --prefix=/opt/mailman --with-mail-gid=nobody --with-cgi-gid=http
checking for mail wrapper GID...
configure: error:
* No existing group found for the mail_wrapper program.
* This is the group that your mail delivery agent runs under, and
* uses to run filter programs.  You might want to specify an
* existing group with the --with-mail-gid configure option.
* Please see your mail agent's documentation, and the INSTALL file
* for details

It alwaysfails for mail_wrapper program... can find no referneces to 
mail_wrapper either.. so I  guess this is a symlink of some sort I need to 
setup... to sendmails wrapper...?

I have found a wrapper in /usr/libexec/sendmail that is currently ln -s to 
/opt/mailman/wrapper from my first setup...

h



On Wednesday 31 October 2001 12:50, you were heard blurting out:

>
> try 'daemon' for the mail GID.
> what does this command return:
> grep Group /path/to/apache/conf/httpd.conf

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Re: Mailman

2001-10-31 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Bill Day babbled on about:
> ok, I have bungled it bad, mailman that is:
>
> ./configure --prefix=/opt/mailman
> --with-mail-gid=daemon --with-cgi-gid=http
>
> Thats what I ran and then setup everything else right... test the
> mailman/listinf/test this is what I get:
>
> Mailman CGI error!!! The expected gid of the Mailman CGI wrapper did not
> match the gid as set by the Web server.
>
> The most likely cause is that Mailman was configured and installed
> incorrectly. Please read the INSTALL instructions again, paying close
> attention to the --with-cgi-gid configure option. This entry is being
> stored in your syslog:
> Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 55, GOT gid 65534.  (Reconfigure to take
> 65534?)
>
> now > did a make distclean in the source folder and prepared to attempt
> this again with 1- and 2-:
>
> 1-  ./configure --prefix=/opt/mailman
> --with-mail-gid=mail --with-cgi-gid=http 2-  ./configure
> --prefix=/opt/mailman --with-mail-gid=12--with-cgi-gid=55
>
> my error:
>
> checking for mail wrapper GID...
> configure: error:
> * No existing group found for the mail_wrapper program.
> * This is the group that your mail delivery agent runs under, and
> * uses to run filter programs.  You might want to specify an
> * existing group with the --with-mail-gid configure option.
> * Please see your mail agent's documentation, and the INSTALL file
> * for details
>
> I know the mail wrapper is working cause sendmail is sending and recieving
> mail, aliasing it, all for local mail and for domain mail...
>
> Ideas??

try 'daemon' for the mail GID.
what does this command return:
grep Group /path/to/apache/conf/httpd.conf
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Re: Mailman

2001-10-31 Thread Bill Day

ok, I have bungled it bad, mailman that is:

./configure --prefix=/opt/mailman --with-mail-gid=daemon --with-cgi-gid=http 

Thats what I ran and then setup everything else right... test the 
mailman/listinf/test this is what I get:

Mailman CGI error!!! The expected gid of the Mailman CGI wrapper did not 
match the gid as set by the Web server.

The most likely cause is that Mailman was configured and installed 
incorrectly. Please read the INSTALL instructions again, paying close 
attention to the --with-cgi-gid configure option. This entry is being stored 
in your syslog: 
Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 55, GOT gid 65534.  (Reconfigure to take 
65534?)

now > did a make distclean in the source folder and prepared to attempt this 
again with 1- and 2-:

1-  ./configure --prefix=/opt/mailman --with-mail-gid=mail --with-cgi-gid=http
2-  ./configure --prefix=/opt/mailman --with-mail-gid=12--with-cgi-gid=55

my error:

checking for mail wrapper GID...
configure: error:
* No existing group found for the mail_wrapper program.
* This is the group that your mail delivery agent runs under, and
* uses to run filter programs.  You might want to specify an
* existing group with the --with-mail-gid configure option.
* Please see your mail agent's documentation, and the INSTALL file
* for details

I know the mail wrapper is working cause sendmail is sending and recieving 
mail, aliasing it, all for local mail and for domain mail...

Ideas??

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Re: Mailman

2001-10-30 Thread Bill Day

2 things...:

1-  The SWISH-E image on mothership and mirrors are not appearing.. I fixed 
it on mine.. heres the code for it, edit swish.cgi(sorry for the wrap):

http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/SWISH-E/"; target="_blank">http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/Images/swish-e.gif"; width=112 height=35 
align="middle" alt="SWISH-E"
border=0>

2- Well, wait a minute, maybe I should do a little more reading ...(bout 
mailman) for setting it up and such.. I think I got everything write after 
adding ExecCGI below the directory line. for both scriptalias /mailman/ 
and alias /pipermail/

On Tuesday 30 October 2001 20:48, you were heard blurting out:
> Bill Day babbled on about:
> > ok, so since apache really isnt the name, httpd is, and httpd runs as
> > group http.. 
> >
> > well no shit sherlock use http group8^)
> >
> > umm, pardone ma francais..
> >
> > hehe, thanks
>
> no sweat

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Re: Mailman

2001-10-30 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Bill Day babbled on about:
> ok, so since apache really isnt the name, httpd is, and httpd runs as group
> http.. 
>
> well no shit sherlock use http group8^)
>
> umm, pardone ma francais..
>
> hehe, thanks

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Re: Mailman

2001-10-30 Thread Bill Day

ok, so since apache really isnt the name, httpd is, and httpd runs as group 
http.. 

well no shit sherlock use http group8^)

umm, pardone ma francais..

hehe, thanks


On Tuesday 30 October 2001 19:10, you were heard blurting out:
> Bill Day babbled on about:
> > uhh, question... whats wwwadmin referring to
>
> the group that apache runs as

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Re: Mailman

2001-10-30 Thread Bill Day

hmm... what could doug do with and extra 7Kb/sec...

NOT MUCH   hehehe


On Tuesday 30 October 2001 19:09, you were heard blurting out:
> Bill Day babbled on about:
> > Hmmm some tips...
> >
> > would you like a shell Doug hehehe
>
> if need be ;)

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Re: Mailman

2001-10-30 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Bill Day babbled on about:
> uhh, question... whats wwwadmin referring to

the group that apache runs as
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Re: Mailman

2001-10-30 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Bill Day babbled on about:
> Hmmm some tips...
>
> would you like a shell Doug hehehe

if need be ;)
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Re: Mailman

2001-10-30 Thread Bill Day

uhh, question... whats wwwadmin referring to

On Tuesday 30 October 2001 13:41, you were heard blurting out:
> Bill Day babbled on about:
> > Anyone got any tips ons etting up mailman-2.0.6
> >
> > I have the user mailman and the group mailman...
> >
> > Question1?  Do I make suer mailman belong to group users? or group
> > mailman?
> >
> > Question2?  It says to create a directory $PREFIX for installation.. what
> > is this..?  Im a rpm-er more often then not so most of this tarball stuff
> > still gets me  8^)
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
>
> mkdir /opt/mailman
> groupadd mailman
> useradd -d /opt/mailman -g mailman mailman
>
> ./configure --prefix=/opt/mailman --with-mail-gid=daemon
> --with-cgi-gid=wwwadmin
> make
> make install
>
> change wwwadmin accordingly

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Re: Mailman

2001-10-30 Thread Bill Day

Hmmm some tips...

would you like a shell Doug hehehe

Thanks,

On Tuesday 30 October 2001 13:41, you were heard blurting out:
> Bill Day babbled on about:
> > Anyone got any tips ons etting up mailman-2.0.6
> >
> > I have the user mailman and the group mailman...
> >
> > Question1?  Do I make suer mailman belong to group users? or group
> > mailman?
> >
> > Question2?  It says to create a directory $PREFIX for installation.. what
> > is this..?  Im a rpm-er more often then not so most of this tarball stuff
> > still gets me  8^)
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
>
> mkdir /opt/mailman
> groupadd mailman
> useradd -d /opt/mailman -g mailman mailman
>
> ./configure --prefix=/opt/mailman --with-mail-gid=daemon
> --with-cgi-gid=wwwadmin
> make
> make install
>
> change wwwadmin accordingly

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Re: Mailman

2001-10-30 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Bill Day babbled on about:
> Anyone got any tips ons etting up mailman-2.0.6
>
> I have the user mailman and the group mailman...
>
> Question1?  Do I make suer mailman belong to group users? or group mailman?
>
> Question2?  It says to create a directory $PREFIX for installation.. what
> is this..?  Im a rpm-er more often then not so most of this tarball stuff
> still gets me  8^)
>
> Thanks in advance,

oh! 'chown mailman:mailman /opt/mailman' before the 'make install'
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Re: Mailman

2001-10-30 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Bill Day babbled on about:
> Anyone got any tips ons etting up mailman-2.0.6
>
> I have the user mailman and the group mailman...
>
> Question1?  Do I make suer mailman belong to group users? or group mailman?
>
> Question2?  It says to create a directory $PREFIX for installation.. what
> is this..?  Im a rpm-er more often then not so most of this tarball stuff
> still gets me  8^)
>
> Thanks in advance,

mkdir /opt/mailman
groupadd mailman
useradd -d /opt/mailman -g mailman mailman

./configure --prefix=/opt/mailman --with-mail-gid=daemon 
--with-cgi-gid=wwwadmin
make
make install

change wwwadmin accordingly
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