Re: JOE editor has just added UTF-8 support

2004-05-04 Thread Vasilis Vasaitis
On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 10:27:10PM +0900, Derek Martin wrote:

..[snip]..

> in Gaim.  =8^)  Now if only Mutt will work properly with UTF-8...

  Err... I'm reading these messages inside mutt, which in turn runs
under a UTF-8 enabled xterm (uxterm), with the el_GR.UTF-8 locale. And
let me tell you, it works great, and in fact it's been supporting
UTF-8 for a long time now.

  Make sure that you have a fairly recent version of mutt, and that
it's compiled against ncursesw, not plain ncurses or slang, and you
should be set. The Debian unstable package is what I'm using, BTW.


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Re: JOE editor has just added UTF-8 support

2004-05-04 Thread srintuar
To be specific, I like te be able to switch back and forth between
Vietnamese and Japanese. Right now, gtk+ input methods seem to be
the best way to do that in a running app. Owen said that he mainly
intended them to be wrappers for xim and ultimately iiimf.
Not so, at least for Korean.  But I guess it depends on what IME
you're using...  The Ami input editor allows you to switch back and
forth with a single keystroke.  I don't know what language you're
trying to learn, but I suspect the IME for that language works
similarly.
 



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Re: JOE editor has just added UTF-8 support

2004-05-04 Thread Derek Martin
On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 09:29:50PM +0300, Vasilis Vasaitis wrote:
> On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 10:27:10PM +0900, Derek Martin wrote:
> 
> ..[snip]..
> 
> > in Gaim.  =8^)  Now if only Mutt will work properly with UTF-8...
> 
>   Err... I'm reading these messages inside mutt, which in turn runs
> under a UTF-8 enabled xterm (uxterm), with the el_GR.UTF-8 locale. And
> let me tell you, it works great, and in fact it's been supporting
> UTF-8 for a long time now.

It seems to have problems with double-width asian characters.  It
works fine with European character sets...

>   Make sure that you have a fairly recent version of mutt, and that
> it's compiled against ncursesw, not plain ncurses or slang, and you
> should be set. The Debian unstable package is what I'm using, BTW.

Well, I'm running red hat 9, which AFAIK doesn't have ncursesw, and I
don't want to be bothered to be mucking with critical libraries from
source.  Not because I can't, but because I can't be bothered...

FWIW, Every other program I use with Korean works fine in xterm.  Only
Mutt blows up.  So I think it's a bug in Mutt anyway...  I'm only two
development releases behind IIRC, and I did download the source for
the latest a couple of weeks ago, but these days I'm too busy to be
upgrading half the libraries and all the software on my system just so
one trivial feature will work properly.  Mutt works fine with
ko_KR/EUC-KR, so I just use that.  I can probably wait until the next
time I need to upgrade my distribution to make the necessary changes.

Derek



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Re: JOE editor has just added UTF-8 support

2004-05-04 Thread Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS
Derek Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> > > in Gaim.  =8^)  Now if only Mutt will work properly with UTF-8...
> > 
> >   Err... I'm reading these messages inside mutt, which in turn runs
> > under a UTF-8 enabled xterm (uxterm), with the el_GR.UTF-8 locale. And
> > let me tell you, it works great, and in fact it's been supporting
> > UTF-8 for a long time now.
> 
> It seems to have problems with double-width asian characters.  It
> works fine with European character sets...

Mutt is supposed to and has been known to work with double-width
characters, provided it has an appropriate terminal library, such as
ncursesw or a UTF-8 version of slang.

Recent versions of Debian use ncursesw, but Red Hat 9 seems to use
slang:

$ cat /etc/redhat-release
Red Hat Linux release 9 (Shrike)
$ ldd /usr/bin/mutt
libslang-utf8.so.1 => /usr/lib/libslang-utf8.so.1 (0x4002b000)
...

Judging by the library name this is supposed to work, so can you
describe a reproducible bug?

Edmund

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Re: JOE editor has just added UTF-8 support

2004-05-04 Thread Derek Martin
On Tue, May 04, 2004 at 04:17:48PM +0100, Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS wrote:
> Judging by the library name this is supposed to work, so can you
> describe a reproducible bug?

I don't use Red Hat's RPM for mutt, because it has a number of
annoying problems and isn't configured the way I want it to be.  It's
also not shipped with my patches included... ;-)

  http://www.pizzashack.org/mutt

So I build my own mutt -- but my build uses ncurses.  I'll try
rebuilding it against slang, but I seem to recall that this causes
some other problem  I'll give it a shot.

Thanks!



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