Re: [ILUG-BOM] Facebook Hotmail on Ubuntu
Hi, st...@lonetwin.net wrote: This is worth a try besides all the others suggested: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1110043.html I tried changing the MTU and also the MSS. It didn't help. The only thing left to try is using a packet sniffer. Chirag Wazir http://chirag.freeshell.org -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Facebook Hotmail on Ubuntu
Hey Chirag, Quoting Chirag Wazir wa...@vsnl.com: Sometimes the login page on Hotmail loads up, but logging in doesn't produce any response. In Facebook again, sometimes the login page loads, but doesn't work. In SeaMonkey, sometimes logging in to Facebook does proceed to the home page, but then no other links work. This is worth a try besides all the others suggested: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1110043.html I have tried googling, but no satisfactory solution showed up. FWIW, this was the first google hit (your post being the second) http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+facebook+hotmail My googling philosophy -- unless you know exactly what your are searching for, try the most generic keywords and then filter/refine. cheers, - steve -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Facebook Hotmail on Ubuntu
Hi, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: somebody else's ubuntu machine. Yours for example? Both sites work fine in general on other ubuntu machines. I've used both the sites on 7.10, 8.04 8.10, all on triband connections. So it isn't any generic ubuntu/mtnl issue. Balwinder Singh wrote: Capture packets (using tcpdump) and try to understand what is happening. I'll try that. I only have intermittent remote desktop access to the machine - so I have to be careful not to make any mistake that completely borks the networking. :-) Rony wrote: Just for kicks, try another browser like Konquerar or Opera. I have already tried 4 browsers. All have the same problem. Chirag Wazir http://chirag.freeshell.org -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Facebook Hotmail on Ubuntu
Hi, Thanks for all the responses. I shall try them and reply if anything works. Might take a while though - remote access is often tedious. Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: Can he log in from ubuntu from some other machine? He has only one machine. Harsh Busa wrote: if you can try to use a live cd of ubuntu or some other linux based flavor you might be able to find some headway. Yes, I'll try that. Unfortunately, I very strongly suspect it'll work on the Live CD that won't tell me anything then. :-) Raj Mathur wrote: See if turning ECN off helps: You could also play around with /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_syncookies Since I've never tried that, it sounds like a good possibility, thanks. :-) Rony wrote: Has he added a wireless router to his ADSL modem? Nope, just a direct, single ethernet cable to the modem. scrapo wrote: I do not know what other sites you have tried, but facebook has an exceptionally high amount of Javascript, .. Ah but if that was the problem, other browsers should work. And I did clean out cookies cache to make sure. As I said, the problem is in all installed browsers. And the sites used to work fine till last week. Chirag Wazir http://chirag.freeshell.org -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Facebook Hotmail on Ubuntu
On Friday 10 April 2009 12:42:20 Chirag Wazir wrote: Can he log in from ubuntu from some other machine? He has only one machine. somebody else's ubuntu machine. Yours for example? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Facebook Hotmail on Ubuntu
Hi, Raj Mathur wrote: See if turning ECN off helps: You could also play around with /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_syncookies I tried out toggling all combinations of tcp_ecn tcp_syncookies - makes no difference. I also asked him to try a LiveCD, but his LiveCD seems to have gotten scratched/corrupt, so that's not going to be possible for a while. Chirag Wazir http://chirag.freeshell.org -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Facebook Hotmail on Ubuntu
On Thursday 09 April 2009 12:23:15 Chirag Wazir wrote: Hi, Pankaj Jangid wrote: To be precise: (1) The website doesn't load or (2) He is just not able to Login into the site? Sometimes the login page doesn't load - the browser just waits. Other times the login page appears but after entering the login/passwd and pressing Submit, it doesn't respond. The browser just sits there, the percentage bar moves for a while and nothing happens. Usually after a longish while he gets a timeout error on the browser - i.e. Server did not respond Chirag Wazir http://chirag.freeshell.org Try changing TCPMSS setting, it will help, If remote site does not allow fragmented packets. see man iptables for TCPMSS. Capture packets (using tcpdump) and try to understand what is happening. If possible post the tcpdump output. Regards Balwinder Singh -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Facebook Hotmail on Ubuntu
Chirag Wazir wrote: Hi, Raj Mathur wrote: See if turning ECN off helps: You could also play around with /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_syncookies I tried out toggling all combinations of tcp_ecn tcp_syncookies - makes no difference. I also asked him to try a LiveCD, but his LiveCD seems to have gotten scratched/corrupt, so that's not going to be possible for a while. Just for kicks, try another browser like Konquerar or Opera. At one time a version of firefox did not open the Vodaphone billing page properly but luckily Konquerar did and I was saved from using doze. -- Regards, Rony. GNU/Linux ! No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom. -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Facebook Hotmail on Ubuntu
Hi, Dinesh A. Joshi wrote: See the reason would be some libraries on Ubuntu may have gotten corrupted which is producing such behavior. But *what* libraries? Other sites work fine. Only facebook hotmail seem to be affected. So you're telling me that on the same machine he's got dual boot with XP and Ubuntu, right? Using the same MTNL connection, the sites work fine on XP and dont load up with Ubuntu. Hmm...maybe he should use XP... haha :) Ha ha. Here I'm trying to keep him convinced to use XP only for games and use Ubuntu for everything else And the system has been working perfectly from last August (when I installed it) till about a week ago. I suppose it's possible that one of the security updates did the damage, but why on earth would it only affect those 2 sites. Chirag Wazir http://chirag.freeshell.org -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Facebook Hotmail on Ubuntu
Hi, Pankaj Jangid wrote: To be precise: (1) The website doesn't load or (2) He is just not able to Login into the site? Sometimes the login page doesn't load - the browser just waits. Other times the login page appears but after entering the login/passwd and pressing Submit, it doesn't respond. The browser just sits there, the percentage bar moves for a while and nothing happens. Usually after a longish while he gets a timeout error on the browser - i.e. Server did not respond Chirag Wazir http://chirag.freeshell.org -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Facebook Hotmail on Ubuntu
Chirag Wazir wrote: And the system has been working perfectly from last August (when I installed it) till about a week ago. I suppose it's possible that one of the security updates did the damage, but why on earth would it only affect those 2 sites. I'm not sure. But the problem certainly isn't with the Internet connection. There is only one possibility that the way Ubuntu is connecting to MTNL may be the root cause of the problem. I'm using Ubuntu 8.10 / Debian with recent updates and neither of them have any problems accessing any of the two websites. - Dinesh -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Facebook Hotmail on Ubuntu
On Thursday 09 April 2009 12:23:09 Chirag Wazir wrote: And the system has been working perfectly from last August (when I installed it) till about a week ago. I suppose it's possible that one of the security updates did the damage, but why on earth would it only affect those 2 sites. well, a sensible operating system would naturally block sites like this ;-) Can he log in from ubuntu from some other machine? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Facebook Hotmail on Ubuntu
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Chirag Wazir wa...@vsnl.com wrote: Hi, Dinesh A. Joshi wrote: See the reason would be some libraries on Ubuntu may have gotten corrupted which is producing such behavior. But *what* libraries? Other sites work fine. Only facebook hotmail seem to be affected. if you can try to use a live cd of ubuntu or some other linux based flavor you might be able to find some headway. Harsh -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers -- __ http://harsh.busa.in/ George Burns http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/g/george_burns.html - I spent a year in that town, one Sunday. -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Facebook Hotmail on Ubuntu
On Thursday 09 Apr 2009, Raj Mathur wrote: On Thursday 09 Apr 2009, Chirag Wazir wrote: Since the last week or so, he has been unable to log in to Facebook or Hotmail from Ubuntu. He has a dual-boot machine with Ubuntu 8.04 and Windows XP. He is connected via a MTNL Triband connection. Both sites still work fine in XP. Other sites work fine in Ubuntu. He's tried several alternate browsers besides Firefox, including Opera, SeaMonkey, etc. but has the same problem there. Sometimes the login page on Hotmail loads up, but logging in doesn't produce any response. In Facebook again, sometimes the login page loads, but doesn't work. In SeaMonkey, sometimes logging in to Facebook does proceed to the home page, but then no other links work. See if turning ECN off helps: cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn (note whether it's 1 or 0). echo 0 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn If it's off, you could try turning it on :) You could also play around with /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_syncookies . See if one of the 4 combinations of ECN and SYN-COOKIES (S:0, E:0; S:1, E:1; S:0, E:1; S:1, E:0) gets you to hotmail. Why would anyone want to go to hotmail anyway? ;) -- Raju -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Facebook Hotmail on Ubuntu
Chirag Wazir wrote: Hi, Pankaj Jangid wrote: To be precise: (1) The website doesn't load or (2) He is just not able to Login into the site? Sometimes the login page doesn't load - the browser just waits. Other times the login page appears but after entering the login/passwd and pressing Submit, it doesn't respond. The browser just sits there, the percentage bar moves for a while and nothing happens. Usually after a longish while he gets a timeout error on the browser - i.e. Server did not respond Has he added a wireless router to his ADSL modem? Sometimes 2 routers placed behind one another can cause this problem. -- Regards, Rony. GNU/Linux ! No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom. -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Facebook Hotmail on Ubuntu
Chirag Wazir wrote: Hi, Dinesh A. Joshi wrote: See the reason would be some libraries on Ubuntu may have gotten corrupted which is producing such behavior. But *what* libraries? Other sites work fine. Only facebook hotmail seem to be affected. I do not know what other sites you have tried, but facebook has an exceptionally high amount of Javascript, which results in the browser using up more and more memory as you use facebook (in a single session). I am wondering if the problem is with Javascript rather than connectivity or something. Also, i am told facebook uses a lot of cokkies. So you're telling me that on the same machine he's got dual boot with XP and Ubuntu, right? Using the same MTNL connection, the sites work fine on XP and dont load up with Ubuntu. Hmm...maybe he should use XP... haha :) Ha ha. Here I'm trying to keep him convinced to use XP only for games and use Ubuntu for everything else And the system has been working perfectly from last August (when I installed it) till about a week ago. I suppose it's possible that one of the security updates did the damage, but why on earth would it only affect those 2 sites. Chirag Wazir http://chirag.freeshell.org -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Facebook Hotmail on Ubuntu
Chirag Wazir wrote: Any further lines of inquiry would be appreciated So you're telling me that on the same machine he's got dual boot with XP and Ubuntu, right? Using the same MTNL connection, the sites work fine on XP and dont load up with Ubuntu. Hmm...maybe he should use XP... haha :) See the reason would be some libraries on Ubuntu may have gotten corrupted which is producing such behavior. - Dinesh -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Facebook Hotmail on Ubuntu
To be precise: (1) The website doesn't load or (2) He is just not able to Login into the site? Regards Pankaj On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 6:52 AM, Chirag Wazir wa...@vsnl.com wrote: Hi, A friend has a strange problem that I have been unable to solve, so I thought I'd canvas for suggestions here. Since the last week or so, he has been unable to log in to Facebook or Hotmail from Ubuntu. He has a dual-boot machine with Ubuntu 8.04 and Windows XP. He is connected via a MTNL Triband connection. Both sites still work fine in XP. Other sites work fine in Ubuntu. He's tried several alternate browsers besides Firefox, including Opera, SeaMonkey, etc. but has the same problem there. Sometimes the login page on Hotmail loads up, but logging in doesn't produce any response. In Facebook again, sometimes the login page loads, but doesn't work. In SeaMonkey, sometimes logging in to Facebook does proceed to the home page, but then no other links work. I have tried googling, but no satisfactory solution showed up. Suggestions included clearing the cache/cookies (no effect in any case multiple browsers makes this unlikely), changing DNS servers (tried both MTNL OpenDNS, and in any case they're the same servers as set under Windows), and even checking the Java install (I really doubt MS uses Java on the Hotmail page, but I tried it anyway). Ping times of both sites seem normal. Any further lines of inquiry would be appreciated. Thanks, Chirag Wazir http://chirag.freeshell.org -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers -- Fred Allen http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/f/fred_allen.html - Washington is no place for a good actor. The competition from bad actors is too great. -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
