[IFWP] Re: Internet stability
For example, I know very little about how my local water or electricity is served to me. Should I know more about it? Perhaps. But that would take quite a bit of time, and leave me with much less time to study these issues. Even if I were to devote my life to studying policy issues, would I have enough time to study all of them sufficiently so that if it came time for me to decide what 'governance' I wanted, I would make the 'right' choices? Sheerly by coincidence, I dare say, you state the rationale for collective organization. By yourself, *studying everything you need or want to know does indeed take all your time -- and then some. But get together with a bunch, all of whom are interested in the topic, who readily share their experiences, and who talk about and act on the issues (be they water or electricity supply or governance and representation) in their normal conduct, and soon you have a what is called an informed populace (sometimes even "public") without one minute having to be spent "studying" any of it. Call it open-source society if you like, but many hands make light work -- and I recommend this business model to the .car folks who want to compete with AOL. kerry
[IFWP] Re: Internet stability
Richard Sexton wrote, Show me where is says the internet was created as a public resource. Or, if it was created as a private resource, show me where this was made into a public resource. Even Canadian civics classes fall short, I guess. Public 'resources' -- what used to be called the public domain until it got to be too confusing -- do not need an enactment in order to exist. On the contrary, AFAIK, everywhere it has been the concept of private property which had to be legislatively created against the common ground. Perhaps quoting Bill L will help: De facto becomes de jure, and that is how the common law comes about. No end of statutes refer to "accepted business practices" or "community standards" or the like as the standard against which some specific conduct is measured, so people who write RFCs or set up protocols or distribute roots in whatever way are in fact writing the "law" on which future decisions will be made, whether they know it or not. I think it's safe to say that when private interests get together to *accept some 'acceptable' business practice or to uphold some standard of community conduct, they are (re-)creating/ defining public space whether they know it or not. I might add, its a bit discouraging to see so many imaginative types react unthinkingly to a mere word, instead of adopting it as part of their arsenal - I mean, repertoire. kerry
[IFWP] Re: Internet stability
Mr. Steinberg, The Department of Commerce is currently reviewing a proposal by Network Solutions related to TLD servers. This proposal is referenced in our letter to Chairman Bliley, posted at www.ntia.doc.gov. Becky Burr Dan Steinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/01 6:24 PM Ms. Burr, I have been informed that recently NSI requested permission to deploy additional TLD servers for enhanced stability. I was further informed that you denied their request to make changes to the root zone that would render these servers operational. Can you confirm that these events did occur, and if so, why the requests to make changes that would enhance the stablity of the internet were denied? Dan Steinberg SYNTHESIS:Law Technology 35, du Ravin Box 532, RR1phone: (613) 794-5356 Chelsea, Quebec fax: (819) 827-4398 J0X 1N0 e-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[IFWP] Re: Internet stability
Ms. Burr, That was hardly very helpful. When did you receive the proposal? Where is the text? Or does it have to be FOIAed? When will you complete your review and reach a decision? Why don't you answer Dan's question? Are we to infer that in your opinion these servers have no influence on internet stability? Mr. Steinberg, The Department of Commerce is currently reviewing a proposal by Network Solutions related to TLD servers. This proposal is referenced in our letter to Chairman Bliley, posted at www.ntia.doc.gov. Becky Burr Dan Steinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/01 6:24 PM Ms. Burr, I have been informed that recently NSI requested permission to deploy additional TLD servers for enhanced stability. I was further informed that you denied their request to make changes to the root zone that would render these servers operational. Can you confirm that these events did occur, and if so, why the requests to make changes that would enhance the stablity of the internet were denied? Dan Steinberg SYNTHESIS:Law Technology 35, du Ravin Box 532, RR1 phone: (613) 794-5356 Chelsea, Quebecfax: (819) 827-4398 J0X 1N0e-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The COOK Report on InternetIndex to seven years of the COOK Report 431 Greenway Ave, Ewing, NJ 08618 USA http://cookreport.com (609) 882-2572 (phone fax) The only Good ICANN is a Dead ICANN [EMAIL PROTECTED]What's Behind ICANN and How it Will Impact the Future of the Internet http://cookreport.com/icannregulate.shtml
Re: [IFWP] Re: Internet stability
At 08:46 PM 8/1/99 -0400, you wrote: Ms. Burr, That was hardly very helpful. When did you receive the proposal? Where is the text? Or does it have to be FOIAed? When will you complete your review and reach a decision? Why don't you answer Dan's question? Are we to infer that in your opinion these servers have no influence on internet stability? Ms. Burr, I would further add that NTIA/DOC is perhaps not the best judge of the impact of new/additional TLD servers on the operation of the Internet. Is there any plan to coordinate the input of those who DO have a more thorough understanding of that impact? Gene Marsh Mr. Steinberg, The Department of Commerce is currently reviewing a proposal by Network Solutions related to TLD servers. This proposal is referenced in our letter to Chairman Bliley, posted at www.ntia.doc.gov. Becky Burr Dan Steinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/01 6:24 PM Ms. Burr, I have been informed that recently NSI requested permission to deploy additional TLD servers for enhanced stability. I was further informed that you denied their request to make changes to the root zone that would render these servers operational. Can you confirm that these events did occur, and if so, why the requests to make changes that would enhance the stablity of the internet were denied? Dan Steinberg SYNTHESIS:Law Technology 35, du Ravin Box 532, RR1 phone: (613) 794-5356 Chelsea, Quebec fax: (819) 827-4398 J0X 1N0 e-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The COOK Report on InternetIndex to seven years of the COOK Report 431 Greenway Ave, Ewing, NJ 08618 USA http://cookreport.com (609) 882-2572 (phone fax) The only Good ICANN is a Dead ICANN [EMAIL PROTECTED]What's Behind ICANN and How it Will Impact the Future of the Internet http://cookreport.com/icannregulate.shtml ++ Gene Marsh president, anycastNET Incorporated 330-699-8106
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Becky and all, Thank you Becky for this update. However it seems a bit incomplete and as such lacking is some sort of idea as to when a publicly available report or answer to Dan's question can be expected. Becky Burr wrote: Mr. Steinberg, The Department of Commerce is currently reviewing a proposal by Network Solutions related to TLD servers. This proposal is referenced in our letter to Chairman Bliley, posted at www.ntia.doc.gov. Becky Burr Dan Steinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/01 6:24 PM Ms. Burr, I have been informed that recently NSI requested permission to deploy additional TLD servers for enhanced stability. I was further informed that you denied their request to make changes to the root zone that would render these servers operational. Can you confirm that these events did occur, and if so, why the requests to make changes that would enhance the stablity of the internet were denied? Dan Steinberg SYNTHESIS:Law Technology 35, du Ravin Box 532, RR1phone: (613) 794-5356 Chelsea, Quebec fax: (819) 827-4398 J0X 1N0 e-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, -- Jeffrey A. Williams Spokesman INEGroup (Over 95k members strong!) CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng. Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC. E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Number: 972-447-1894 Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208
Re: [IFWP] Re: Internet stability
Gene and all, Yes they (NTIA) are most likely conferring with Juni Muari and the rest of the ICANN (Initial?) Interim Board at this very moment! ROFLMAO! Or possibly considering a seance with Jon Postel! ;) Gene Marsh wrote: At 08:46 PM 8/1/99 -0400, you wrote: Ms. Burr, That was hardly very helpful. When did you receive the proposal? Where is the text? Or does it have to be FOIAed? When will you complete your review and reach a decision? Why don't you answer Dan's question? Are we to infer that in your opinion these servers have no influence on internet stability? Ms. Burr, I would further add that NTIA/DOC is perhaps not the best judge of the impact of new/additional TLD servers on the operation of the Internet. Is there any plan to coordinate the input of those who DO have a more thorough understanding of that impact? Gene Marsh Mr. Steinberg, The Department of Commerce is currently reviewing a proposal by Network Solutions related to TLD servers. This proposal is referenced in our letter to Chairman Bliley, posted at www.ntia.doc.gov. Becky Burr Dan Steinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/01 6:24 PM Ms. Burr, I have been informed that recently NSI requested permission to deploy additional TLD servers for enhanced stability. I was further informed that you denied their request to make changes to the root zone that would render these servers operational. Can you confirm that these events did occur, and if so, why the requests to make changes that would enhance the stablity of the internet were denied? Dan Steinberg SYNTHESIS:Law Technology 35, du Ravin Box 532, RR1 phone: (613) 794-5356 Chelsea, Quebec fax: (819) 827-4398 J0X 1N0 e-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The COOK Report on InternetIndex to seven years of the COOK Report 431 Greenway Ave, Ewing, NJ 08618 USA http://cookreport.com (609) 882-2572 (phone fax) The only Good ICANN is a Dead ICANN [EMAIL PROTECTED]What's Behind ICANN and How it Will Impact the Future of the Internet http://cookreport.com/icannregulate.shtml ++ Gene Marsh president, anycastNET Incorporated 330-699-8106 Regards, -- Jeffrey A. Williams Spokesman INEGroup (Over 95k members strong!) CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng. Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC. E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Number: 972-447-1894 Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208
Re: [IFWP] Re: Internet stability
Becky Burr wrote: The Department of Commerce is currently reviewing a proposal by Network Solutions related to TLD servers. This proposal is referenced in our letter to Chairman Bliley, posted at www.ntia.doc.gov. Beckwith Burr, did you know that Joe Sims has been colluding with the Antitrust Division of the Department of Justice to use the antitrust laws to put pressure on NSI to capitulate to you and CORE and IBM, and at the same time to keep ICANN from being charged with the very violations it is unjustly levelling at NSI? Have you also been colluding with the DOJ and ICANN? Michael Sondow I.C.I.I.U. http://www.iciiu.org Tel. (212)846-7482Fax: (603)754-8927 Dan Steinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/01 6:24 PM Ms. Burr, I have been informed that recently NSI requested permission to deploy additional TLD servers for enhanced stability. I was further informed that you denied their request to make changes to the root zone that would render these servers operational. Can you confirm that these events did occur, and if so, why the requests to make changes that would enhance the stablity of the internet were denied?
