[REBOL] Re: REBOL and w@p Re:
Hello Rebolers, I tried but could not scroll to the bottom of the text? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 13:24 Subject: [REBOL] REBOL and w@p For those interested, there is now Czech Amiga News in w@ap format available. You can go to http://www.gelon.net and type in following url: http://www.rebol.cz/can/news.wml Enjoy! -pekr- Regards -- JMS Trustee http://www.jms.org HP=http://www.sonic.net/~alanwall/ First computer solar powered vic-20 AmigaQNX-notAmigaNG=no good computers for people not suits sent via Yam ver2 on AmigaForever ver3 Be a Rebel get [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN#=9391028
[REBOL] proxy setting Re:(4)
when i enter password, it fails with incorrect port specification and if i try IP instead of DNS it's same as DNS, read http://www.rebol.com connecting to: www.rebol.com ** Access Error: Port none not open. ** Where: read http://www.rebol.com Filip -Pvodn zprva- Od: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Odeslno: 26. dubna 2000 20:01 Komu: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pedmt: [REBOL] proxy setting Re:(3) Unfortuneately I never played with sock5, but I understand that it may require a username and password. Its probably a good idea to find out for sure what proxy version your connecting to. Sometimes those net admin folks like to use different ports to be cute, so you might check to see which ones your browser uses. If you use DNS names you might try using IP's instead, incase there is somehow an issue with your DNS. FYI, this is how I setup REBOL for my network... set-net [[EMAIL PROTECTED] mail.pacific.net mail.pacific.net 10.65. 95.9 1080 socks4] If I was on socks5 and had to enter a password I might try... set-net [[EMAIL PROTECTED] mail.pacific.net mail.pacific.net ryanc:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 95.9 1080 socks5] but thats just a guess, that may not work at all. --Ryan
[REBOL] REBOL and w@p Re:(3)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Rebolers, I tried but could not scroll to the bottom of the text? Well, there are scrollers on the cell phone in the middle. As for the messages being shorter, author of the script limited message size, I don't know why thought, as I have no experience with wap compatible appliances. Maybe max size of transferred message? -pekr- - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 13:24 Subject: [REBOL] REBOL and w@p For those interested, there is now Czech Amiga News in w@ap format available. You can go to http://www.gelon.net and type in following url: http://www.rebol.cz/can/news.wml Enjoy! -pekr- Regards -- JMS Trustee http://www.jms.org HP=http://www.sonic.net/~alanwall/ First computer solar powered vic-20 AmigaQNX-notAmigaNG=no good computers for people not suits sent via Yam ver2 on AmigaForever ver3 Be a Rebel get [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN#=9391028
[REBOL] For all those folks unsubsribing from the list Re:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and click "send". Big hint: Use copy and paste, so the spelling remains correct. OK? Then you'll be unsubscribed from the list. We should probably add to SELMA the ability to accept "unsubsribe" and ask the user a confirmation... Regards, Gabriele.
[REBOL] REBOL/View/Graph?
Hello, REBOL: What chance is there of REBOL adding a native (i.e. built-in compiled code) multi-graph, multi-style graphing tool to View? This tool should take both data formulae input. Doing this in REBOL code would probably not be efficient enough for some uses, but it may get implimented more quickly. -- ---===///||| Donald Dalley |||\\\===--- The World of AmiBroker Support http://webhome.idirect.com/~ddalley UIN/ICQ#: 65203020
[REBOL] For all those folks unsubsribing from the list Re:(2)
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 8:25 PM Subject: [REBOL] For all those folks "unsubsribing" from the list Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and click "send". Big hint: Use copy and paste, so the spelling remains correct. OK? Then you'll be unsubscribed from the list. We should probably add to SELMA the ability to accept "unsubsribe" and ask the user a confirmation... Regards, Gabriele. People could also use the unsubscribe links that are on the same page that the subscribe links are on. At least those links were there the last time I looked. Cheers, Allen K
[REBOL] REBOL and e-commerce Re:
I like your writing style! Have you considered writing a REBOL book? Of course, it would be uncivil of me to just brag about the neat ap I wrote without telling you HOW it works. It's pretty trival; the real headache is getting the HTML commands to format right--nothing to do with the REBOL code, HTML is just a pain on good days. ... Meanwhile, enjoy. REBOL truly is Perl without the complication. --Ralph Roberts
[REBOL] For all those folks unsubsribing from the list Re:(3)
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 10:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [REBOL] For all those folks "unsubsribing" from the list Re:(2) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 8:25 PM Subject: [REBOL] For all those folks "unsubsribing" from the list Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and click "send". Big hint: Use copy and paste, so the spelling remains correct. OK? Then you'll be unsubscribed from the list. We should probably add to SELMA the ability to accept "unsubsribe" and ask the user a confirmation... Regards, Gabriele. People could also use the unsubscribe links that are on the same page that the subscribe links are on. At least those links were there the last time I looked. Cheers, Allen K Isn't it easier to just delete the mail? -Shannon
[REBOL] [REBOL] Rebol/Command ME TOO
Me too (Win and Linux)
[REBOL] REBOL and e-commerce Re:(2)
Thanks, Chas, although that message was quick and had a few typos. Yes, I've considered writing a book on REBOL and may very well do so. I love the language, that's for sure. As to "style," I've never worried overly much about it, but having written some 80 books and a few thousand articles, I've perhaps developed one. All of which is nice, but I still have to take the trash out on Monday morningsg. But, seriously, this mailing list has given me a lot of tips in learning REBOL and I like to try and give back a little. We're all in this together. Best, --Ralph I like your writing style! Have you considered writing a REBOL book? Of course, it would be uncivil of me to just brag about the neat ap I wrote without telling you HOW it works. It's pretty trival; the real headache is getting the HTML commands to format right--nothing to do with the REBOL code, HTML is just a pain on good days. ... Meanwhile, enjoy. REBOL truly is Perl without the complication. --Ralph Roberts
[REBOL] Mime Type Datatype Built in?
What do you all think of asking Rebol to put a mime type datatype into REBOL along with the most common mime types? Here is a bit of code from webserver.r: err-num " " err/2 "^/Content-type: text/html^/^/" That could be reduced, clarified, or beautified to: err-num " " err/2 system/mimetypes/text/html Because REBOL is so web centric it makes sense to me. What do you think?
[REBOL] proxy setting Re:(5)
I am having some difficulties trying to replicate your error message. When I use the wrong port or wrong IP I get... read http://www.rebol.com ** Access Error: Cannot connect to 10.65.95.9. ** Where: read http://www.rebol.com When I use socks or socks5 I get prompted for a login password, then it reads the site as normal. If I use generic proxy I get... read http://www.rebol.com connecting to: www.rebol.com ** User Error: Error. Target url: http://www.rebol.com/ could not be re trieved. Server response: none. ** Where: read http://www.rebol.com if I point to a non-proxy win-98 or OS/2 box I get... read http://www.rebol.com connecting to: www.rebol.com ** Access Error: Cannot connect to 10.65.95.1. ** Where: read http://www.rebol.com If I use no proxying I get... read http://www.rebol.com connecting to: www.rebol.com ** Access Error: Cannot connect to www.rebol.com. ** Where: read http://www.rebol.com Well, you might try to recreate my errors. I am not sure whether the error... ** Access Error: Port none not open is a server side error or possibly a client side error. If anyone has had this error or understands it, please let us know! I suspect that the REBOL socks proxy is somehow different than your socks proxy. A little more information might be necessary now, such as the OS are you using, server's OS and the socks proxy you are using. --Ryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when i enter password, it fails with incorrect port specification and if i try IP instead of DNS it's same as DNS, read http://www.rebol.com connecting to: www.rebol.com ** Access Error: Port none not open. ** Where: read http://www.rebol.com Filip -Pùvodní zpráva- Od: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Odesláno: 26. dubna 2000 20:01 Komu: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pøedmìt: [REBOL] proxy setting Re:(3) Unfortuneately I never played with sock5, but I understand that it may require a username and password. Its probably a good idea to find out for sure what proxy version your connecting to. Sometimes those net admin folks like to use different ports to be cute, so you might check to see which ones your browser uses. If you use DNS names you might try using IP's instead, incase there is somehow an issue with your DNS. FYI, this is how I setup REBOL for my network... set-net [[EMAIL PROTECTED] mail.pacific.net mail.pacific.net 10.65. 95.9 1080 socks4] If I was on socks5 and had to enter a password I might try... set-net [[EMAIL PROTECTED] mail.pacific.net mail.pacific.net ryanc:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 95.9 1080 socks5] but thats just a guess, that may not work at all. --Ryan
[REBOL] Mimetypes Built-in?
Mimetypes Built-in? What do you all think of asking Rebol to put a mime type datatype into REBOL along with the most common mime types? Here is a bit of code from webserver.r: err-num " " err/2 "^/Content-type: text/html^/^/" That could be reduced, clarified, or beautified to: err-num " " err/2 system/mimetypes/text/html Because REBOL is so web centric it makes sense to me. What do you think?
[REBOL] RE: REBOL and e-commerce Re:(2)
Someone needs to document how to write REBOL. I am a newbie who is impressed by the user comments about its power, but at a loss to get started. Documentation does not seem to be REBOL's strong point! I would propose a tutorial web page for starters. The REBOL.com site is not very helpful from a newcomer's standpoint. I've read this list for some weeks but still need an overview tutorial. Mark Evans -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 11:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [REBOL] REBOL and e-commerce Re:(2) Thanks, Chas, although that message was quick and had a few typos. Yes, I've considered writing a book on REBOL and may very well do so. I love the language, that's for sure. [snip]
[REBOL] REBOL and ... documentation Re:(2)
I thought the examples in the documentation were great for learning the language (i.e. simple examples for performing simple tasks), but then again I'm a programmer. I can see now that a book is really needed to explain more detail (for those tasks which aren't as straight-forward). The most notable information missing (for me) was what I could do with REBOL. I had no immediate need for internet communications (and knew very little about it), and because REBOL was text-only with no OS interface, I was at a loss for a useful application. So I made one up: a text-based game (ok, so not very useful). As I grew more bold with REBOL coding, and copied the networking TCP code from multisession.r (on rebol.org), I converted the single-player game to a MUD server. This is the first networking (and first multi-user/multi-player) program I've ever written. NOW I've got something that impresses even myself - and I never would have done it without the ease of programming in REBOL. You can telnet into the MUD server at: calweb.com, port 3000 (you'll want local echo ON). Feel free to login and crash it. thinking Sometime soon I should probably add directions/documentation /thinking - Michael Jelinek -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 12:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [REBOL] RE: REBOL and e-commerce Re:(2) Someone needs to document how to write REBOL. I am a newbie who is impressed by the user comments about its power, but at a loss to get started. Documentation does not seem to be REBOL's strong point! I would propose a tutorial web page for starters. The REBOL.com site is not very helpful from a newcomer's standpoint. I've read this list for some weeks but still need an overview tutorial. Mark Evans -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 11:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [REBOL] REBOL and e-commerce Re:(2) Thanks, Chas, although that message was quick and had a few typos. Yes, I've considered writing a book on REBOL and may very well do so. I love the language, that's for sure. [snip]
[REBOL] REBOL and e-commerce Re:(4)
There is, of course, documentation available from the REBOL site. The documentation is great for someone who is already familiar with scripting. This documentation replaces previous docs which actually included a beginner's tutorial. I'm not sure why that was removed. Someone needs to document how to write REBOL. I am a newbie who is impressed by the user comments about its power, but at a loss to get started. Documentation does not seem to be REBOL's strong point! I would propose a tutorial web page for starters. The REBOL.com site is not very helpful from a newcomer's standpoint. I've read this list for some weeks but still need an overview tutorial. Mark Evans -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 11:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [REBOL] REBOL and e-commerce Re:(2) Thanks, Chas, although that message was quick and had a few typos. Yes, I've considered writing a book on REBOL and may very well do so. I love the language, that's for sure. [snip]
[REBOL] Rebol/Command ME TOO Re:
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[REBOL] REBOL and e-commerce Re:(4)
I will assume you have found the dictionary, users-guide, REBOL in ten steps, and lowly rebdoc. Myself, I have found that some docs on the system object are needed. A tips and tricks would be real cool. REBOL lends itself to a somewhat different program architecture, so a REBOL design doc would be slick for me. Maybe we could do a user contributed documents web page? Everyone contributes a little, we all would have allot. We WOULD have to be careful so that it did'nt become a hodge podge of garbly-gouk. I suppose we could do it through rebol.org, that is if people are willing to contribute and rebol.org will have it. --Ryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone needs to document how to write REBOL. I am a newbie who is impressed by the user comments about its power, but at a loss to get started. Documentation does not seem to be REBOL's strong point! I would propose a tutorial web page for starters. The REBOL.com site is not very helpful from a newcomer's standpoint. I've read this list for some weeks but still need an overview tutorial. Mark Evans -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 11:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [REBOL] REBOL and e-commerce Re:(2) Thanks, Chas, although that message was quick and had a few typos. Yes, I've considered writing a book on REBOL and may very well do so. I love the language, that's for sure. [snip]
[REBOL] REBOL and e-commerce Re:(5)
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 6:04 AM Subject: [REBOL] REBOL and e-commerce Re:(4) There is, of course, documentation available from the REBOL site. The documentation is great for someone who is already familiar with scripting. This documentation replaces previous docs which actually included a beginner's tutorial. I'm not sure why that was removed. Someone needs to document how to write REBOL. I am a newbie who is impressed by the user comments about its power, but at a loss to get started. Documentation does not seem to be REBOL's strong point! Hi Mark, All Rebol scripts are documentation, don't look for all your answers in manuals, spend time reading the example scripts, each one is a mini how-to document. If you have questions on a particular script, contact the author of the script, commonly you will find their email in the script header. Take advantage of this list, consider the members of this list as your tutor. Ask your questions here (after you have checked/read the www.rebol.com/faq.html), your answers will be far better than any manual could ever give. We don't bite, some of us do drool though ;-) Cheers, Allen K ICQ 456820 I would propose a tutorial web page for starters. The REBOL.com site is not very helpful from a newcomer's standpoint. I've read this list for some weeks but still need an overview tutorial. Mark Evans -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 11:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [REBOL] REBOL and e-commerce Re:(2) Thanks, Chas, although that message was quick and had a few typos. Yes, I've considered writing a book on REBOL and may very well do so. I love the language, that's for sure. [snip]
[REBOL] Question on Sort ?
Hi All, The following code sorts the name-ages block by name in ascending order, and also keeps the age with the corresponding name. name-ages: ["Larry" 45 "Curly" 50 "Mo" 42 "Mike" 48] == ["Larry" 45 "Curly" 50 "Mo" 42 "Mike" 48] sort/skip name-ages 2 == ["Curly" 50 "Larry" 45 "Mike" 48 "Mo" 42] 1. How would i sort to get name/ages in descending order by name ? 2. How would i sort to get name/ages in ascending order by age ? 3. How would i sort to get name/ages in descending order by age ? I've a feeling it's got something to do with the compare refinement, but at this point in time, it doesn't make much sense to me. Thanks in advance. Mike.
[REBOL] Text to CW !!!
Hi,
I saw a perl script in USENET news that coded text to CW -alphabets,
the author of script challenged others to do the same with a shorter
program. I thought to do it in REBOL. Here it is, much shorter than
the original perl -script, that was actually very badly written, but
unfortunately a bit longer than the shortest (and very unreadable)
perl script. This script is a bit broken (because I tried to take
every byte off that I could). And almost unreadable. It is certainly
not a good example how one should program in REBOL. I post it
here just because there might be some interested in it. Here it comes
(about 210 bytes :)
REBOL[]foreach c system/script/args[s: copy{ }x: index?
find{etianmsurwdkgohvfüläpjbxcyzqö*54*3***2***16***7***8*90}c until[s:
head insert s either odd? x["."]["-"](x: to-integer x - 1 / 2) = 0]prin s]
And a little more readable version:
REBOL[]
foreach char system/script/args [
str: copy " "
pos: index? find
"etianmsurwdkgohvfüläpjbxcyzqö*54*3***2***16***7***8*90" char
until [
str: head insert str either odd? pos ["."]["-"]
(pos: to-integer pos - 1 / 2) = 0
]
prin str
]
It is supposed to be used from the commandline, but it is easy to
alter do otherwise. I'll repeat this, if you want to use this code
snippet in your program do yourself a favor and fix it, currently it
is hmm... feature rich :) It does not like spaces in input and
also unknown characters produce a crash.
Have fun,
Jussi
--
Jussi Hagman CS in Åbo Akademi University
Studentbyn 4 D 33[EMAIL PROTECTED]
20540 Åbo[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Finland
[REBOL] RE: REBOL and e-commerce Re:(5)
Thank you Allen. I plead guilty to not having fully studied the user guide which is the closest thing to comprehensive documentation. At least I scanned it carefully (more than you can say for most programmers)! The Guide takes a worm's eye view of the territory, not a bird's eye view. It reminds me of the old Inside Macintosh books. I tried to learn Mac programming from those books (thick as they were) and got absolutely nowhere. A magazine article hit the nail on the head when it paraphrased the Mac API as the assembly language of interface programming. I work as a professional software engineer and know several languages, compiled and interpreted. Learning curves are not mysteries to me; I know what they look like. The real point I am trying to make is that a dictionary-style documentation, or slew of examples, is the hard way to learn anything. I could tell you to learn the English language by reading the dictionary. Technically speaking it covers everything you need to know, but then again -- it doesn't. The Guide takes an approach that is just barely one level above a dictionary. It categorizes REBOL thingys into groups of thingys without saying what makes a REBOL program a REBOL program. There needs an architecture discussion to lend coherence to the whole situation. Especially useful would be - background philosophy (why REBOL? what's better about it? white paper time!) - comparison with another language doing the same task (esp. Perl which seems to be the main competition -- comparative examples are often the most important) - visual block diagrams instead of words (show me the chain of evaluation in a flow chart not a dictionary presentation which asks me to reconstruct the flow based on dry definitions) - clarification of the 31 flavors of REBOL (/core, /view, /whatever /else) - what are they, when are they planned to ship, what is the price tag, why so many flavors - clarification of exactly what things are done behind the scenes and how (memory alloc, run time typing, etc.) These suggestions are given in a spirit of constructive critique. The point here is to convey the mind of the language designer to the readers. Then examples will fall neatly into place. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 7:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [REBOL] REBOL and e-commerce Re:(5) Hi Mark, All Rebol scripts are documentation, don't look for all your answers in manuals, spend time reading the example scripts, each one is a mini how-to document. [snip]
[REBOL] Text to CW !!! Re:
Hi Jussi
To shave off another couple of bytes, (the new line is 3 characters shorter)
change...
str: head insert str either odd? pos ["."]["-"]
to this...
str: head insert str pick ["." "-"] odd? pos
Because 'pick also works with Logic values.
Cheers,
Allen K
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 1:09 PM
Subject: [REBOL] Text to CW !!!
Hi,
I saw a perl script in USENET news that coded text to CW -alphabets,
the author of script challenged others to do the same with a shorter
program. I thought to do it in REBOL. Here it is, much shorter than
the original perl -script, that was actually very badly written, but
unfortunately a bit longer than the shortest (and very unreadable)
perl script. This script is a bit broken (because I tried to take
every byte off that I could). And almost unreadable. It is certainly
not a good example how one should program in REBOL. I post it
here just because there might be some interested in it. Here it comes
(about 210 bytes :)
REBOL[]foreach c system/script/args[s: copy{ }x: index?
find{etianmsurwdkgohvfüläpjbxcyzqö*54*3***2***16***7***8*90}c
until[s:
head insert s either odd? x["."]["-"](x: to-integer x - 1 / 2) = 0]prin
s]
And a little more readable version:
REBOL[]
foreach char system/script/args [
str: copy " "
pos: index? find
"etianmsurwdkgohvfüläpjbxcyzqö*54*3***2***16***7***8*90"
char
until [
str: head insert str either odd? pos ["."]["-"]
(pos: to-integer pos - 1 / 2) = 0
]
prin str
]
It is supposed to be used from the commandline, but it is easy to
alter do otherwise. I'll repeat this, if you want to use this code
snippet in your program do yourself a favor and fix it, currently it
is hmm... feature rich :) It does not like spaces in input and
also unknown characters produce a crash.
Have fun,
Jussi
--
Jussi Hagman CS in Åbo Akademi
University
Studentbyn 4 D 33[EMAIL PROTECTED]
20540 Åbo[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Finland
[REBOL] Rebol/Command ME TOO
ME TOO (Linux,Win95)
