[REBOL] my most frequent complaint Re:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...about scripting languages is that they let you do a whole lot *very* quickly and then you're stuck. My current case in point, is this program I'm writing to sync files from the three different computers I use to a central location. (bookmark files, address books, etc.) All the stuff that I expected to be hard was easy: querying a FTP site, uploading and downloading files, comparing file dates and times. The part that I expected to be easy seems impossible: setting the time on a file in the local file system. I never once imagined that I wouldn't be able to do this. I am sorry, but I don't think you will easily find many scripting languages which will allow you to do so, or am I wrong? It's incredibly frustrating. Is there a way to make calls to custom DLL's? Wait for the /Command version ... -pekr- Thanks, Brad = Original Message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] at 4/03/00 8:06 am Hi Does anyone know the SERIES package for CommonLisp (http://series.sourceforge.net/) and can explain difference and common referring to Rebol ? Thanks AR -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net
[REBOL] my most frequent complaint Re:
= Original Message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] at 4/03/00 9:41 am [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...about scripting languages is that they let you do a whole lot *very* quickly and then you're stuck. My current case in point, is this program I'm writing to sync files from the three different computers I use to a central location. (bookmark files, address books, etc.) All the stuff that I expected to be hard was easy: querying a FTP site, uploading and downloading files, comparing file dates and times. The part that I expected to be easy seems impossible: setting the time on a file in the local file system. I never once imagined that I wouldn't be able to do this. I am sorry, but I don't think you will easily find many scripting languages which will allow you to do so, or am I wrong? No. You are correct, hence my complaint. It wasn't targeted at Rebol, but scripting languages in general. I'm C/C++programmer, and I constantly have hopes that a scripting language will arise that I can switch to. The happiest I've been was when I had my own interpreter using the Postscript dialect. For the most part I wrote in Postscript. When I need to do something better done in a language like C, I wrote it in C and added it as a builtin function. It was awesome, but it since it was all custom it wasn't something I could really use at work. If you supported a mechanism to call DLL's, and maybe created a generic one, people could use Rebol for what it's good at and switch to a langauge like C for the things it's not good at--like talking to the system. I know this violates the whole portable code thing, but it's *really* useful and no one *has* to use it. I really doubt that one language will ever be all things to all people. Two languages quite possibly might do the trick. We just need some glue and Rebol looks like pretty good glue. It's incredibly frustrating. Is there a way to make calls to custom DLL's? Wait for the /Command version ... Okay, I'm waiting... (any idea how long???) Brad
[REBOL] [REBOL] my most frequent complaint Re:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the schedule on REBOL / NT being able to talk to COM objects? I don't know - all I know about /Command can be found at: http://www.rebol.com/news9B09.html -pekr- Len = Wait for the /Command version ... Okay, I'm waiting... (any idea how long???)
[REBOL] my most frequent complaint Re:(2)
Hi Brad, Those were the words of [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ... No. You are correct, hence my complaint. It wasn't targeted at Rebol, but scripting languages in general. I'm C/C++programmer, and I constantly have hopes that a scripting language will arise that I can switch to. ... Have you seen pliant? ( http://pliant.cams.ehess.fr/ ) I think there is nearly nothing you can't do with it (if you had good docs, that is). It does tcp/ftp/http/smtp/ scripts are compiled when started can use dlls / be used as dll (there seem to be still some rough edges) highly customizable (even the whole syntax) on the downside: only Linux / Windows 10 MB on disc slow on startup missing docs default syntax is awful but if someone implemented a rebol syntax translator for pliant ;-) regards, Ingo -- _ ._ ingo@)|_ /| _| _ We ARE all ONE www._|_o _ _ ._ _ www./_|_) |o(_|(/_ We ARE all FREE ingo@| |(_|o(_)| (_| http://www.2b1.de/Rebol/ ._| ._|
[REBOL] my most frequent complaint Re:(2)
Thought I would throw a little different take on this thread: I'm a modestly accomplished C/C++ programmer. I use C++ extensions carefully and conservatively. I love C because of it's great extendability. I've done a lot of CGI programming in this medium and will most likely continue with it as my main programming language for the foreseeable future, especially for large databases. I'm using rebol because it is a C program written by far better programmers than I am. (Carl S and company). I know it will be a valuable addition to my tool kit. And I am also looking at Python. Rebol has got a lot to learn from Python, but I think they WILL learn from python and be better than either python or perl. just my point of view. tim At 01:05 PM 4/3/00 +0100, you wrote: Re the "ideal scripting language": have you looked at Python? Rebol is great for internet related scripting, but as a general scripting system, Python is about as good as it gets right now (in my humble opinion). At 09:19 AM 4/3/00 -0700, you wrote: about scripting languages is that they let you do a whole lot *very* quickly and then you're stuck. My current case in point, is this program I'm writing to sync files from the three different computers I use to a central location. (bookmark files, address books, etc.) All the stuff that I expected to be hard was easy: querying a FTP site, uploading and downloading files, comparing file dates and times. The part that I expected to be easy seems impossible: setting the time on a file in the local file system. I never once imagined that I wouldn't be able to do this. It's incredibly frustrating. Is there a way to make calls to custom DLL's? Thanks, Brad = Original Message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] at 4/03/00 8:06 am Hi Does anyone know the SERIES package for CommonLisp (http://series.sourceforge.net/) and can explain difference and common referring to Rebol ? Thanks AR -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net
