Re: [WSG] help needed in validating webpage

2006-04-11 Thread Germ
Again another thing that im not 100% sure on

the strict DTD for XHTML1.0 doesnt allow _javascript_ right???

so if u want _javascript_ included u wuld use the loose DTD??

Am i right in saying this???



Re: [WSG] help needed in validating webpage

2006-04-11 Thread Germ
Ok I have fixed up the problems and worked around them (got rid of "target" etc)

So wen i valiadted I have no 'errors' but i get this message:



Result:


  
Tentatively passed validation
  





  File:Cartoon.html





Encoding:utf-8
Doctype:XHTML 1.0 Strict



  Root Namespace:
  http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml



  






  
  


No Character Encoding Found!

  Falling back to 

UTF-8.
  
  

  I was not able to extract a character encoding labeling from any of
  the valid sources for such information. Without encoding information
  it is impossible to reliably validate the document. I'm falling back
  to the "UTF-8" 
  encoding and will attempt to perform the validation,
  but this is likely to fail for all non-trivial documents.

  
  
Read the FAQ 
entry on character encoding for more details and pointers on how to fix this problem with your document.
  
  



  

  

Note:
The Validator XML support has
some limitations.


wat does this mean???
Thanks again for all you guys (and girls) help



[WSG] Please Vote for your Favorite

2006-04-11 Thread Christian Montoya
Hello listers,

Liquid Designs reached 100 entries yesterday and I figured the best
way to celebrate would be to let everyone decide the best design out
of those 100. I had a team of 4 guest reviewers pick their favorites
and they came up with 7 finalists. Please take a moment to vote for
your favorite one. Voting will continue until midnight Saturday (EST).

http://cssliquid.com/2006/news/100-gallery-entries-now-vote-for-the-best/

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[WSG] WCAG2 Last Call

2006-04-11 Thread Martin Jopson
Anyone got a link to the relevant page for a "this just isn't good enough" reply to the WCAG2 'last call' as discussed at Sydney WSG meeting last week?Thanks.


Re: [WSG] Max/min width for IE

2006-04-11 Thread Spark
  Yes, it does make a difference, if you use a table or a div. DIV are
made for that: DIVide the page in areas. In my opinion, they are more
like a tool to make the CSS work a little easier (and keep us sane).
  They are misused, indeed, but a being a *much* less semantic tag,
it's less evil for the meaning of the page. IMHO.

  spark


On 4/11/06, Samuel Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes but he's talking about using a DIV to force open an area of the
> page. It doesn't matter if you use a div or a table because in both
> cases you're using an HTML element as presentation (even if you can't
> see it).
>
>
> Joseph Bernhardt wrote:
> > W3C - "Tables should not be used purely as a means to layout document
> > content as this may present problems when rendering to non-visual media.
> > Additionally, when used with graphics, these tables may force users to
> > scroll horizontally to view a table designed on a system with a larger
> > display. To minimize these problems, authors should use style sheets
> > <../present/styles.html> to control layout rather than tables."
> >
> > Using a table in this case will not present any problems, no.  But
> > (correct me if I am wrong), the main purpose of a table was originally
> > designed to display a relationship between multiple sets of data (ie:
> > spreadsheet).  A table can, in fact, be used for display purposes when
> > containing relevant data but for the problem at hand I am sticking with
> > my recommendation of a div.
> > Thanks though!
> >
> > Jough
> >
> > Samuel Richardson wrote:
> >
> >> Might as well just use a table in that case.
> >>
> >>
> >> Joseph Bernhardt wrote:
> >>
> >>> Eww!  Using HTML elements to solve a display issue?  I know where you
> >>> are coming from, I have had 'clients' like this before, too.
> >>>
> >>> I have had to use MS CSS expressions to solve the issue of position
> >>> fixed and found it relatively easy to use, although I would have
> >>> rather not used it had there been another way.  As far as min/max
> >>> width, have you tried placing a nested div within the area to be
> >>> min-width'd with padding of the amount to be width'd and contents of
> >>> a non-breaking space?  Sound's like that might work to me, anyone else?
> >>>
> >>> Jough
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Ricci Angela wrote:
> >>>
>  Hello everybody
> 
>  Following the late discussion about fluid/elastic layouts, I was
>  wondered if somebody out there has some feedback concerning the use
>  of Microsoft's "Dynamic properties" proprietary solution for fixing
>  the lack of min/max-width support.
>  After some discussion with my client, they "impose" me the use
>  of a one-cell table to fix this for IE, but I really think it is a
>  pitty to have to do it... And, besides a javascript solution, all
>  I've found out was MS dynamic properties. If somebody already used
>  those, please could you share your experiences ?
> 
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Re: [WSG] Is there a Javascript issue in Safari?

2006-04-11 Thread Fred Ehmann
Never mind; I see.On Apr 10, 2006, at 8:18 PM, Lachlan Hunt wrote:Do not use those HTML-style comments ()inside script and style elements in XHTML documents.  In fact, they're completely unnecessary in HTML these days as well, so just don't use them at all. 

RE: [WSG] 404 Redirectationite

2006-04-11 Thread Peter Firminger

> > Also, the w3c validator was unable to
> > recognize the page as anything other than 404;  will other
> spiders/bots
> > be able to recognize content?  Thank you, as always!
>
> Not sure, but from a logical point of view, if a URL brings
> back a 404,
> the content should not really be indexed/associated with the URL...

In fact a decent search engine should drop the page from the index if it
returns a 404 status.

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Re: [WSG] Site Check: SAPheadhunter

2006-04-11 Thread Thierry Koblentz
[re-post: original message never made it to the list]

Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:
> Now, remember to test with all the usual browser-options, because I
> might
> At the moment that...
>
> SAP
>headhunter
> ...is showing up in IE/win when I use the 'ignore font size' option.
> You should cover it better...

Done!
That's the best site check I ever had, please keep throwing them at me

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[WSG] [OT]: Companies that offer SEO

2006-04-11 Thread Thierry Koblentz
I have a client who is looking for some advice, but I don't have much
knowledge (even less than that) in this field.
Any good articles/info to share?

Off-list please: thierry_tjkdesign_com

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Re: [WSG] Max/min width for IE

2006-04-11 Thread Samuel Richardson
Yes but he's talking about using a DIV to force open an area of the 
page. It doesn't matter if you use a div or a table because in both 
cases you're using an HTML element as presentation (even if you can't 
see it).



Joseph Bernhardt wrote:
W3C - "Tables should not be used purely as a means to layout document 
content as this may present problems when rendering to non-visual media. 
Additionally, when used with graphics, these tables may force users to 
scroll horizontally to view a table designed on a system with a larger 
display. To minimize these problems, authors should use style sheets 
<../present/styles.html> to control layout rather than tables."


Using a table in this case will not present any problems, no.  But 
(correct me if I am wrong), the main purpose of a table was originally 
designed to display a relationship between multiple sets of data (ie: 
spreadsheet).  A table can, in fact, be used for display purposes when 
containing relevant data but for the problem at hand I am sticking with 
my recommendation of a div.

Thanks though!

Jough

Samuel Richardson wrote:


Might as well just use a table in that case.


Joseph Bernhardt wrote:

Eww!  Using HTML elements to solve a display issue?  I know where you 
are coming from, I have had 'clients' like this before, too.


I have had to use MS CSS expressions to solve the issue of position 
fixed and found it relatively easy to use, although I would have 
rather not used it had there been another way.  As far as min/max 
width, have you tried placing a nested div within the area to be 
min-width'd with padding of the amount to be width'd and contents of 
a non-breaking space?  Sound's like that might work to me, anyone else?


Jough


Ricci Angela wrote:


Hello everybody

Following the late discussion about fluid/elastic layouts, I was 
wondered if somebody out there has some feedback concerning the use 
of Microsoft's "Dynamic properties" proprietary solution for fixing 
the lack of min/max-width support.
After some discussion with my client, they "impose" me the use 
of a one-cell table to fix this for IE, but I really think it is a 
pitty to have to do it... And, besides a javascript solution, all 
I've found out was MS dynamic properties. If somebody already used 
those, please could you share your experiences ?


Thanks a lot
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Re: [WSG] 404 Redirectationite

2006-04-11 Thread Patrick H. Lauke

Joseph Bernhardt wrote:
I run an apache server and utilize the .htaccess file to run a php 
script on a 404 error.  This php script grabs the contents of the 
current uri to display information.  (example: 
www.joughslife.com/Rockport.html) My question is, will this have any 
effect as far as usability? 


One question: why not use mod_rewrite instead? It's cleaner from a 
conceptual point of view, and won't send out an http status of 404. 
Using the error document functionality for this seems a bit of a 
perversion of its intended use...


> Also, the w3c validator was unable to
recognize the page as anything other than 404;  will other spiders/bots 
be able to recognize content?  Thank you, as always!


Not sure, but from a logical point of view, if a URL brings back a 404, 
the content should not really be indexed/associated with the URL...



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Re: [WSG] Max/min width for IE

2006-04-11 Thread Joseph Bernhardt
W3C - "Tables should not be used purely as a means to layout document 
content as this may present problems when rendering to non-visual media. 
Additionally, when used with graphics, these tables may force users to 
scroll horizontally to view a table designed on a system with a larger 
display. To minimize these problems, authors should use style sheets 
<../present/styles.html> to control layout rather than tables."


Using a table in this case will not present any problems, no.  But 
(correct me if I am wrong), the main purpose of a table was originally 
designed to display a relationship between multiple sets of data (ie: 
spreadsheet).  A table can, in fact, be used for display purposes when 
containing relevant data but for the problem at hand I am sticking with 
my recommendation of a div. 


Thanks though!

Jough

Samuel Richardson wrote:

Might as well just use a table in that case.


Joseph Bernhardt wrote:
Eww!  Using HTML elements to solve a display issue?  I know where you 
are coming from, I have had 'clients' like this before, too.


I have had to use MS CSS expressions to solve the issue of position 
fixed and found it relatively easy to use, although I would have 
rather not used it had there been another way.  As far as min/max 
width, have you tried placing a nested div within the area to be 
min-width'd with padding of the amount to be width'd and contents of 
a non-breaking space?  Sound's like that might work to me, anyone else?


Jough


Ricci Angela wrote:


Hello everybody

Following the late discussion about fluid/elastic layouts, I was 
wondered if somebody out there has some feedback concerning the use 
of Microsoft's "Dynamic properties" proprietary solution for fixing 
the lack of min/max-width support.
After some discussion with my client, they "impose" me the use 
of a one-cell table to fix this for IE, but I really think it is a 
pitty to have to do it... And, besides a javascript solution, all 
I've found out was MS dynamic properties. If somebody already used 
those, please could you share your experiences ?


Thanks a lot
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Re: [WSG] 404 Redirectationite

2006-04-11 Thread Lindsay Evans
Hi Jough,Usability wise, it's a good idea to have human-readable URLs (Google
will also add extra weight for keywords in the URL), so if you're doing
this to create friendlier URLs then I'd say it's all good.
To stop the validator/robots/etc. seeing it as a 404 error, you need to send a 200 OK HTTP status code, you can do that in PHP using this line of code:header("HTTP/1.1 200 OK");If you're just doing it to fix a broken link, then using a '301 Moved Permanently' redirect would be more appropriate, like so:
header("HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently");header("Location: http://example.com/my/new/url.html");I'm not 100% sure how search engine robots, etc. would treat it, but I imagine they would all index the location.
Hope this helps, if it makes no sense, I blame the cold & flu pills :)On 4/12/06, Joseph Bernhardt <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I run an apache server and utilize the .htaccess file to run a php
script on a 404 error.  This php script grabs the contents of thecurrent uri to display information.  (example:www.joughslife.com/Rockport.html) My question is, will this have any
effect as far as usability?  Also, the w3c validator was unable torecognize the page as anything other than 404;  will other spiders/botsbe able to recognize content?  Thank you, as always!
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Re: [WSG] Max/min width for IE

2006-04-11 Thread Samuel Richardson

Might as well just use a table in that case.


Joseph Bernhardt wrote:
Eww!  Using HTML elements to solve a display issue?  I know where you 
are coming from, I have had 'clients' like this before, too.


I have had to use MS CSS expressions to solve the issue of position 
fixed and found it relatively easy to use, although I would have rather 
not used it had there been another way.  As far as min/max width, have 
you tried placing a nested div within the area to be min-width'd with 
padding of the amount to be width'd and contents of a non-breaking 
space?  Sound's like that might work to me, anyone else?


Jough


Ricci Angela wrote:


Hello everybody

Following the late discussion about fluid/elastic layouts, I was 
wondered if somebody out there has some feedback concerning the use of 
Microsoft's "Dynamic properties" proprietary solution for fixing the 
lack of min/max-width support.
After some discussion with my client, they "impose" me the use of 
a one-cell table to fix this for IE, but I really think it is a pitty 
to have to do it... And, besides a javascript solution, all I've found 
out was MS dynamic properties. If somebody already used those, please 
could you share your experiences ?


Thanks a lot
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[WSG] 404 Redirectationite

2006-04-11 Thread Joseph Bernhardt
I run an apache server and utilize the .htaccess file to run a php 
script on a 404 error.  This php script grabs the contents of the 
current uri to display information.  (example: 
www.joughslife.com/Rockport.html) My question is, will this have any 
effect as far as usability?  Also, the w3c validator was unable to 
recognize the page as anything other than 404;  will other spiders/bots 
be able to recognize content?  Thank you, as always!


Jough

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Re: [WSG] Max/min width for IE

2006-04-11 Thread Anders Nawroth


Ricci Angela skrev:

Following the late discussion about fluid/elastic layouts, I was wondered if 
somebody out there has some feedback concerning the use of Microsoft's "Dynamic 
properties" proprietary solution for fixing the lack of min/max-width support.
  
To use JScript inside CSS for IE works good, as long as scripting is 
enabled.


I do max-width in ems this way:
HTML (ignored by other browsers):



CSS (served for IE only with conditional comments in the  section 
of the HTML):

#wrapper
{
width: 740px;
width:expression(
(document.getElementById("em").offsetWidth*59 <
document.body.clientWidth) ? "59.5em" : "auto"
);
}

The  should be inside the element you want to set max-with on (to 
make the width of the em-dash correct).


Live example:
http://www.forum-antroposofi.info/

Not tested with IE in quirks mode.

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RE: [WSG] Site check please www.commerceengine.com.au/index.htm

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in firefox the top nav bar background images dissapear initially on
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Re: [WSG] Is there a Javascript issue in Safari?

2006-04-11 Thread Fred Ehmann
First of all--thanks to all who responded. I only just discovered I  
was filtering your responses into another mailbox and didn't see them.


Second--looks like the problem might have been "JavaScript" rather  
than "javascript" in the script tag.


Third, sorry to be thick but: Lachlan, why no comments?

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On Apr 10, 2006, at 9:52 PM, Lachlan Hunt wrote:


Lachlan Hunt wrote:

http://lachy.id.au/log/2005/05/script-comments
Although this wasn't mentioned in that article, use this in XHTML  
instead:

//


Oops, typo.  Requires 2 square brackets ']'.

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Re: [WSG] Site Check: SAPheadhunter

2006-04-11 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:
> Now, remember to test with all the usual browser-options, because I
> might :-)
> At the moment that...
>
> SAP
>headhunter
> ...is showing up in IE/win when I use the 'ignore font size' option.
> You should cover it better...

Fixed!
That's the best site check I ever got, please keep throwing them at me ;-)

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Re: [WSG] Site check please www.commerceengine.com.au/index.htm

2006-04-11 Thread kvnmcwebn
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Re: [WSG] Site Check: SAPheadhunter

2006-04-11 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun

Thierry Koblentz wrote:

Doh! Talk about totally missing the big picture here. LOL


Happens to me all the time. Must be old age - or something.


*Thanks*.


You're welcome.

Now, remember to test with all the usual browser-options, because I
might :-)
At the moment that...

SAP
  headhunter

...is showing up in IE/win when I use the 'ignore font size' option. You
should cover it better...

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Re: [WSG] Max/min width for IE

2006-04-11 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun

Ricci Angela wrote:

And, besides a javascript solution, all I've found out was MS dynamic
 properties. If somebody already used those, please could you share 
your experiences ?


IE-expressions are working just fine, but most implementations are mode
dependent.

Min/max all in one - regardless of mode...

...and the example is used for that page and the rest of the site section.

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Re: [WSG] Max/min width for IE

2006-04-11 Thread Antti Tuppurainen
I am using successfully the "underscore -hack" for min-height issues in IE.#box {  min-height: 430px;  height: auto;  _height: 430px;}The first is for moder browsers, the others are for IE.. somehow someway it just works :)
for the min-widht, max-width issues I am using the _javascript_ _expression_ in css#widebox {  max-width: 1024px;  min-widht: 600px;  width: _expression_(_expression_(document.body.clientWidth > 1024 ? "1024px":"auto")
}the max-width and min-widht are for moder browsers. Last line is for IE and you may read it:"If the box widht is more than 1024, use 1024 as a width else use auto"Hope these helps you a bit.
the _expression_ works also for the height-issues:#box {  max-height: 120px; height:_expression_(document.body.clientHeight > 120 ? "120px":"auto")}but I prefer the undescore -hack..



Re: [WSG] Site Check: SAPheadhunter

2006-04-11 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:
> Not necessary, as you can have elastic layouts without using em on
> individual containers. I just tested on a copy of your page, and it
> behaves just fine even though I didn't go in depth or looked at your
> CSS.

Doh!
Talk about totally missing the big picture here. LOL
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Re: [WSG] Max/min width for IE

2006-04-11 Thread Joseph Bernhardt
Eww!  Using HTML elements to solve a display issue?  I know where you 
are coming from, I have had 'clients' like this before, too.


I have had to use MS CSS expressions to solve the issue of position 
fixed and found it relatively easy to use, although I would have rather 
not used it had there been another way.  As far as min/max width, have 
you tried placing a nested div within the area to be min-width'd with 
padding of the amount to be width'd and contents of a non-breaking 
space?  Sound's like that might work to me, anyone else?


Jough


Ricci Angela wrote:

Hello everybody

Following the late discussion about fluid/elastic layouts, I was wondered if 
somebody out there has some feedback concerning the use of Microsoft's "Dynamic 
properties" proprietary solution for fixing the lack of min/max-width support.
After some discussion with my client, they "impose" me the use of a 
one-cell table to fix this for IE, but I really think it is a pitty to have to do it... 
And, besides a javascript solution, all I've found out was MS dynamic properties. If 
somebody already used those, please could you share your experiences ?

Thanks a lot
Angela
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Re: [WSG] help needed in validating webpage

2006-04-11 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun

Germ wrote:
So u can actually apply the "float: left" to the image instead of 
"align:left"


See: 
...for details about the float-property.

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Re: [WSG] help needed in validating webpage

2006-04-11 Thread Germ
So u can actually apply the "float: left" to the image instead of "align:left"
 > 3.- attribute align doesn´t exists on DTD strict. You can use> text-align:right in your css
>> i might play around with tat idea, makes senseYou have a few options.Since it is images you want to align, you should apply 'float: right;'directly to the image instead. You've got 'float:left' and ':right', but
no ':center' of course.To center an image: apply 'text-align: center;' to the element/containerthe image is inside. Note that this will also center text, so paragraphsinside the same element/container will need 'text-align: left;' defined
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Re: [WSG] help needed in validating webpage

2006-04-11 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun

Germ wrote:
The reason i have the "target" is so it can open up in a new page. 
but it culd dispaear if its easier


Plenty of dispute around the (un)usefulness / (un)friendliness of
opening new windows/tabs.
My advice is: don't use 'target' and don't open new windows/tabs.
That way you can also keep your markup at a Strict level, which will
probably make all future work less problematic.

3.- attribute align doesn´t exists on DTD strict. You can use 
text-align:right in your css


i might play around with tat idea, makes sense


You have a few options.
Since it is images you want to align, you should apply 'float: right;'
directly to the image instead. You've got 'float:left' and ':right', but
no ':center' of course.
To center an image: apply 'text-align: center;' to the element/container
the image is inside. Note that this will also center text, so paragraphs
inside the same element/container will need 'text-align: left;' defined
on them.

regards
Georg
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Re: [WSG] help needed in validating webpage

2006-04-11 Thread Germ
The reason i have the "target" is so it can open up in a new page. but it culd dispaear if its easier

3.- attribute align doesn´t exists on DTD strict. You can use text-align:right
in your css

i might play around with tat idea, makes sense


On 4/11/06, Gunlaug Sørtun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Peter Williams wrote:>> http://www.germworks.net> Short answer: Change your doctype to transitional, it will allow> those attributes.Not a good solution, but if that 'target' *must* stay in there, then it
is probably the best one.> Long answer: Standby for Lachlan's reply on the evils of serving> XHTML as text/html.Someone must be riding the wrong pony here... :-)...or maybe the pony ran away ;-)
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Re: [WSG] help needed in validating webpage

2006-04-11 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun

Peter Williams wrote:

http://www.germworks.net


Short answer: Change your doctype to transitional, it will allow 
those attributes.


Not a good solution, but if that 'target' *must* stay in there, then it
is probably the best one.

Long answer: Standby for Lachlan's reply on the evils of serving 
XHTML as text/html.


Someone must be riding the wrong pony here... :-)
...or maybe the pony ran away ;-)

regards
Georg
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Re: [WSG] Site Check: SAPheadhunter

2006-04-11 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun

http://www.tjkdesign.com/clients/roel/


Left column not well prepared for my standard option... 'min font 
size = 14px'. Same "overshooting" result in Firefox 1.5 and Opera 
9tp2.



I can't think of a "fix" besides creating a large gutter between the
 two columns...


Not necessary, as you can have elastic layouts without using em on
individual containers. I just tested on a copy of your page, and it
behaves just fine even though I didn't go in depth or looked at your CSS.

The "trick" (which should be used more often, IMO) is to set 'em'-width
only on the outer container and '%'-width on all the others. Your layout
is so close to an ordinary '25%+75% 2-column float construct' that it'll
come out fine with such values. Some slight margin-adjustments will take
care of the rest across browser-land

My "hope" is that users with such settings will know how to take 
advantage of that elastic layout; two simple "Ctrl++" should take 
care of the "issue".


:-)
Guess so. However, we use such minimum-settings so we won't have to
click anything. That's the whole idea.

regards
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RE: [WSG] help needed in validating webpage

2006-04-11 Thread Peter Williams
From: Germ
> I have a webpage (http://www.germworks.net) 
> Error Line 35 column 9: there is no attribute "target".


Short answer:
Change your doctype to transitional, it will allow those attributes.

Long answer:
Standby for Lachlan's reply on the evils of serving XHTML as text/html.

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[WSG] Max/min width for IE

2006-04-11 Thread Ricci Angela
Hello everybody

Following the late discussion about fluid/elastic layouts, I was 
wondered if somebody out there has some feedback concerning the use of 
Microsoft's "Dynamic properties" proprietary solution for fixing the lack of 
min/max-width support.
After some discussion with my client, they "impose" me the use of a 
one-cell table to fix this for IE, but I really think it is a pitty to have to 
do it... And, besides a javascript solution, all I've found out was MS dynamic 
properties. If somebody already used those, please could you share your 
experiences ?

Thanks a lot
Angela
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