[ElectricMotorcycles] Calculator Questions

2007-01-20 Thread lyle sloan
1.  How do these ev calculator sites work, as in what
programs do they use?  It's not excel right?

2.  If I use an image as the example, is it possible
to attach an image to each set of values that I change
in the calculator?  The scenario that I am thinking of
is displaying a bike with the factors that work
against and for the acceleration.  When I change the
drive ratio, I want to see the front or rear gear get
bigger or smaller.  When I change the gradient, I want
to see the bike go from level to uphill.  Change the
drag coefficient, see it change from a chopper to a
haiyubasa to streamline, etc.  Changing the type of
batteries which changes the weight and maybe ride
height.  

I am basing this concept off of a site for VW that you
could change the stylings and thought it could be
incorporated together. http://www.busselecta.com/


 

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Re: [ElectricMotorcycles] Calculator Questions

2007-01-20 Thread lyle sloan

--- Mike wrote:

 I am basing this concept off of a site for VW that
 you
 could change the stylings and thought it could be
 incorporated together. http://www.busselecta.com/
 
 Those are done in Flash and a good way to make your
 friends late to 
 work!  Thanks Lyle!
 

Thanks, Mike.And glad to be of service. LOL


 

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Re: [ElectricMotorcycles] Ninja 250 conversion?

2007-01-20 Thread Mike

I can pick up the 250 roller real cheap.. That's what got me thinking along
these lines.


Do it. Do it. Do it.



Anyone know of an available Ninja 750 roller?
I would go the EL Chopper route, but  I don't know how far I want to get
into frame modification.


Pleaes don't fall into a Ninja only trap.  By that I mean it doesn't 
have to be a Kawasaki Ninja.  It could be a YZF, GSX-R, CBR, or 
pretty much anything else.  I haven't read Secrets of El Ninja but I 
suspect what John is putting forth in the book holds true for any 
bike.


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Re: [ElectricMotorcycles] Ninja 250 conversion?

2007-01-20 Thread Mike
How is that the battery instrument panel project coming along? Does 
anyone know?


There's a couple of projects out there.  On the EVTech listserve 
they're developing a very nice one for cars though we could scale it 
down for bikes. Then there's EM Dash of course but they guy who's 
spear heading that is a ninny and almost completely new to 
electronics.  He spends so much time letting the smoke out of 
expensive components that his wife now teases him on a regular basis.


http://emdash.electricmotorcycles.net/

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[ElectricMotorcycles] Etek

2007-01-20 Thread Paul Compton
Cedric Lynch who designed the motor on which the Etek is based, is a friend 
of mine. He made extensive tests of the etek and knows it's limitations.


If you go much over 300 amps then the efficiency falls off a cliff.

The motor has been 'value engineered' down to a specific cost/performance 
level and you can't do much to improve it. No ONE thing is limiting the 
performance, it's a combination of copper, laminations, brushes, magnets, 
and insulation. If you need more torque, use a higher reduction ratio, or 
add a second motor.


One thing they got very wrong originally and caused much amusement to the 
Chinese over the 'stupid yanks' was the dimensions of the motor. It was all 
designed in imperial or inch dimensions! Most dimensions are of course 
fairly arbitrary, but thread sizes and bearings are not. It would have 
doubled the cost of the motors if the bearings and most of the threads 
hadn't been converted to metric., since the factory would have has to buy 
special tooling. Years ago Prestolite motors in the US used metric bearings 
internally since they knew that metric bearings are less than half the cost 
of imperial on the world market.


Paul Compton
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Re: [ElectricMotorcycles] Ninja 250 conversion?

2007-01-20 Thread Mike

Interesting thought started on that one, Mike.  I like
that precooler so to speak.

I think Peltier exchangers would help in this
instance, but I would be concerned with the sudden
temp change on the brushes, i.e. cold to hot.  Whether


I was thinking of something that is for pit use, ie not a permanent 
attachment.  Sorta like a tire warmer.


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Re: [ElectricMotorcycles] Ninja 250 conversion?

2007-01-20 Thread Mike
I haven't had an issue with melting Etek solder at momentary 
currents up to 800 amps.  The key is momentary.  If I wanted cooling 
though, I think I'd go with spraying CO2 on the motor during the 
run.  I have had the brushes and comm get warm, but there's enough 
cooling between runs to take care of that.


Didn't think of that.   Yeah, that would cool it down a bit to say the least.



P.S.S. Mike, why are my pictures in that blog not showing up anymore?


I see 'em.  Anyone else?

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Re: [ElectricMotorcycles] Ninja 250 conversion?

2007-01-20 Thread damon henry
Here's a couple of thoughts. First for the drag racer amongst us: What if 
you could cool your motors before the race?  I mean, like make some copper 
coils that can slip over them in the pits that run off to a refrigerant and 
get them really, really cold just before the run. Then slide the coils off 
and away you go?


When I am dragging the kids around in the snow behind my motorcycle, I am 
usually pulling between 30 and 100 amps at very low rpms.  This means the 
internal fan is not giving me any cooling, and my motor can get quite hot.  
I found a simple solution... In between rides if I see the motor is starting 
to heat up I have the kids grab a big armfull of snow and smash it on the 
motor case.  So cooling between drag runs sounds like a great idea to me.


In case you missed the videos from our recent snow event.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEpY-wj-ZPc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH2ektQA1g8

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