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That's a cool looking foot-forward design, but I'm not sure I like the front swingarm. Why not? I admit that the whole front swing arm thing has confused me since day one so I'm not sure what's good or bad about it. But, you'll notice they have a cage driver on it. Booo. -- The Electric Motorcycle Portal http://www.electricmotorcycles.net/ Electric Motorcycle Listserv http://www.electricmotorcycles.net/listserv
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That's a cool looking foot-forward design, but I'm not sure I like the front swingarm. Thanks, -- Shawn M. Waggoner -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of lyle sloan Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 10:17 PM To: ElectricMotorcycles Subject: Re: [ElectricMotorcycles] some electric motorcycle articles and vids Japanese Racer, Daisuke Ito, seen riding electric prototype EV-X7 http://news.yahoo.com/photo/060404/ids_photos_wl/r1639356537.jpg/print --- lyle sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > More pics specifically of the frame on the EV-X7 > Also some movies of it on the page. > http://negatendo.net/kmc/en_us_stingray.htm > > --- lyle sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > another one > > > http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/worldbiz/photo/2005/04/02/2005033096 > > > > > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Japanese Racer, Daisuke Ito, seen riding electric prototype EV-X7 http://news.yahoo.com/photo/060404/ids_photos_wl/r1639356537.jpg/print --- lyle sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > More pics specifically of the frame on the EV-X7 > Also some movies of it on the page. > http://negatendo.net/kmc/en_us_stingray.htm > > --- lyle sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > another one > > > http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/worldbiz/photo/2005/04/02/2005033096 > > > > > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Here is another vid of the electricmoto in action. http://electricmoto.com/files/brettsrace.wmv The full story of the race is listed here. http://www.visforvoltage.com/forums/index.php?s=9a5d39cbabc8e55187f25158c9828fcc&act=ST&f=23&t=2455&st=75 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Please dont save or link these pages in other posts or forums yet!!! The site I currently posted the pics on compresses the photos. When I upload them on the Electricmotorcycles.net photo gallery this weekend, it should be easier to read and in larger print. Unless, you have a photo editor that has zoom. MAY 1967 CYCLE WORLD "Tom Swift Rides Again: The Saga of Armer Electric" Rollin Armer, a designer at the Lawrence Radiation Laboratory at the University of California, demonstrates his electric motorcycle made from two batteries and a rewound starter motor. This is a favorable article for electric motorcycle technology. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v424/slodown27/concepts/electric_motorcyle.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v424/slodown27/concepts/electric_motorcyle_001.jpg NOTE: Tom Swift is a fictional children's character from the early 1900's that solved mysteries and invented machines (before the Hardy boys, I think). For further reading, here is an archive of one story "Tom Swift and His Electric Runabout": http://users.arczip.com/fwdixon/tomswift/ts05.htm --- lyle sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Did another search over the weekend and found > another > article. This one is in a 1967 Cycle World magazine. > > Will post it as soon as I get it. > > Here is the cover: > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v424/slodown27/concepts/daa3ba83.jpg > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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I am not partial to the EC-02, but this video is pretty funny. Found a vid from the Discovery channel in which the host tries out the EC-02. During the discussion, the battery is pulled out and shown. Pretty good demonstration of some of its features. http://www.exn.ca/dailyplanet/view.asp?date=1/31/2006 Ahrg! They're in that hideous ASX or whatever it is format. I get video but no audio. -- The Electric Motorcycle Portal http://www.electricmotorcycles.net/ Electric Motorcycle Listserv http://www.electricmotorcycles.net/listserv
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I am not partial to the EC-02, but this video is pretty funny. Found a vid from the Discovery channel in which the host tries out the EC-02. During the discussion, the battery is pulled out and shown. Pretty good demonstration of some of its features. http://www.exn.ca/dailyplanet/view.asp?date=1/31/2006 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Another Electric Motorcross http://www.electricross.com http://www.visforvoltage.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=23&t=3100&s=6a9dd72b60f7977d57d3ac2c3a0509c1 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Did another search over the weekend and found another article. This one is in a 1967 Cycle World magazine. Will post it as soon as I get it. Here is the cover: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v424/slodown27/concepts/daa3ba83.jpg __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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An old 1995 editorial about electric motorcycles http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mcdaily/day0076.html I like the comment about sound. And incase I havent posted here this link, http://www.vroombox.com/ in which any car sound can be downloaded to your sound system. I am kinda partial to the Vespa sound :-) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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An announcement of Ekovehicles from India and their future product electric motorcycle release http://totalmotorcycle.com/BBS/viewtopic.php?t=4903&sid=b77146ece0abcb0c8b6fbe42f5e65a00 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Some forum links The electricmoto going li-Ion http://www.visforvoltage.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=23&t=3033&s=098da607dbec799b81c58c44a88ac08a a new Visforvoltage member and his build http://www.visforvoltage.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=23&t=2983&s=098da607dbec799b81c58c44a88ac08a and yes that was me contributing with the 2 gear select and compensator design. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Any seen this book? http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0007HY4PS/qid=1138574577/sr=1-3/ref=sr_1_3/103-9609854-9321422?v=glance&s=books Never seen it. Never heard of it before. It's on my wish list but that doesn't mean much. -- The Electric Motorcycle Portal http://www.electricmotorcycles.net/ Electric Motorcycle Listserv http://www.electricmotorcycles.net/listserv
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At 32 pages in length, it seems more like a cottage industry publication. Considering it was made in 1967, most likely it uses resistor speed control or no speed control at all. As always Lyle, a neat find. > Product Details > > Titled: The Electric Motorcycle: A Builder's Manual > Unknown Binding: 32 pages > Publisher: Published by arrangement with "The Printer" > (January 1, 1967) > Language: English > ASIN: B0007HY4PS
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Any seen this book? http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0007HY4PS/qid=1138574577/sr=1-3/ref=sr_1_3/103-9609854-9321422?v=glance&s=books Product Details Titled: The Electric Motorcycle: A Builder's Manual Unknown Binding: 32 pages Publisher: Published by arrangement with "The Printer" (January 1, 1967) Language: English ASIN: B0007HY4PS Note: Gift-wrapping is not available for this item. Amazon.com Sales Rank: None Yesterday:None __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Several electric cycles featured in Motorcycle News Jan 2006 http://www.electricmoto.com/photos/mcnpic.jpg THAT is too cool. -- The Electric Motorcycle Portal http://www.electricmotorcycles.net/ Electric Motorcycle Listserv http://www.electricmotorcycles.net/listserv
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Here is a list of forum threads... Member Custom1 and his project build from a schwinn. Found at the Scootereventsforum and Visforvoltage http://www.sfdigitaldesign.com/scootereventscommunity/showthread.php?t=10528&page=1&pp=15 http://www.visforvoltage.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=22&t=1991&s=5c12eb5a5e2bbe12e2f7f5f64cb3 I admit I saw the tire on one of those things and started to wonder... -- The Electric Motorcycle Portal http://www.electricmotorcycles.net/ Electric Motorcycle Listserv http://www.electricmotorcycles.net/listserv
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Electricmoto wins a PitBike race at Paris/ Bercy SuperMotoCross http://www.electricmoto.com/news.php?id=71 Several electric cycles featured in Motorcycle News Jan 2006 http://www.electricmoto.com/photos/mcnpic.jpg __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Here is a list of forum threads... Member Custom1 and his project build from a schwinn. Found at the Scootereventsforum and Visforvoltage http://www.sfdigitaldesign.com/scootereventscommunity/showthread.php?t=10528&page=1&pp=15 http://www.visforvoltage.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=22&t=1991&s=5c12eb5a5e2bbe12e2f7f5f64cb3 hopefully they work, please reply if they dont. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Some articles from http://www.meqawattmotorworks.com El chopper Grande http://www.megawattmotorworks.com/display.asp?dismode=article&artid=161 Electric Motorbike Solves problems http://www.megawattmotorworks.com/redir.asp?link=850&tree=591 Schwinn Electric Bike setting records http://www.megawattmotorworks.com/redir.asp?link=746&tree=591 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Several forklift and cart manufacturers have made electric motorcycles in their past. Early creators of the ParCar when made by the Marketeer Company. Amazing about the recurring theme about fuel shortage in WW2. http://www.parcar.com/legend/history.htm This was a good read, Llyle. Thanks. Mike -- The Electric Motorcycle Portal http://www.electricmotorcycles.net/ Electric Motorcycle Listserv http://www.electricmotorcycles.net/listserv
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2002 article on Scott Freeman's Electric Motocross http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-4897.html The pic of the bike I think can be found here: http://www.paulcompton.vispa.com/motorcross.htm __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com
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On the Kneeslider.com, the writer is convinced that Hybrid-electric vehicles as being unnecessary in different articles. http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2005/10/21/yamaha-gen-ryu-hybrid-in-tokyo/ http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2005/12/20/hybrid-motorcycles-are-not-necessary-part-2/ http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2005/12/18/yamaha-targets-hybrid-motorcycle-by-decade-end/ I can see some of his points, because lighter is better. Why build a big machine like the Gen-Ryu with the sole goal of being a hybrid when a lighter machine and good engine can get the same mileage? My bias is toward electric vehicles and I think he is missing the broader point that electric motorcycles are limited in range and to overcome that limitation a hybrid engine is an option. Now granted hydrogen fuel cells are the new thing and could alleviate the range problem, but I dont see that infrastructure gonna happen here in the states within the next 10-20 years. If we were talking methanol fuel cells I can see it being used quickly since methanol can be manufactured from a variety of sources (coal, biomass, natural gas, wood waste, trash, etc.), but methanol has the stigma of another form of gasoline, the MOFC fuel cells release CO2, and there are health problems from contamination of improperly stored methanol. No easy answers, but there never are when talking alternate fuels. __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com
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Here is a pic of a 1967 Indian electric minicycle titled "Papoose" http://www.cycletownusa.com/post1953.html Looks similar to the Auranthetic found on the Ecogenics site http://www.econogics.com/ev/evhista.htm And just to add, the Socovel from 1940's fuel shortage in Belgium http://www.econogics.com/ev/evhists.htm http://www.econogics.com/ev/socovel.jpg --- lyle sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Several forklift and cart manufacturers have made > electric motorcycles in their past. > > Early creators of the ParCar when made by the > Marketeer Company. Amazing about the recurring > theme > about fuel shortage in WW2. > http://www.parcar.com/legend/history.htm > > Ransomes' electric 3 wheel cycle 1920-1924 > http://www.forkliftparts.co.uk/history.htm > __ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/
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Several forklift and cart manufacturers have made electric motorcycles in their past. Early creators of the ParCar when made by the Marketeer Company. Amazing about the recurring theme about fuel shortage in WW2. http://www.parcar.com/legend/history.htm Ransomes' electric 3 wheel cycle 1920-1924 http://www.forkliftparts.co.uk/history.htm --- lyle sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Some early electric motorcycle articles and pics > > A small 1911 electric motorcycle article actually > it's > a classified for sale of article. There is a pic of > the motorbike. > http://classifieds.aol.com/listing/details.aspx?listingid=A4846672 > > *** > An early 1967 fuelcell moped. > http://americanhistory.si.edu/fuelcells/alk/alk2.htm > > ** > Mike Corbinn's early electric motorbike > http://neobike.net/bikes/electric > > > > > __ > Yahoo! Music Unlimited > Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. > http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ > > __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com
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More pics specifically of the frame on the EV-X7 Also some movies of it on the page. http://negatendo.net/kmc/en_us_stingray.htm --- lyle sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > another one > http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/worldbiz/photo/2005/04/02/2005033096 > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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http://negatendo.net/kmc/en_us_axle.htm --- lyle sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > another one > http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/worldbiz/photo/2005/04/02/2005033096 > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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another one http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/worldbiz/photo/2005/04/02/2005033096 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Japanese concept bike, CAD drawing http://www.geocities.jp/yama_chyann/garaly/bike.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Havent been able to translate it yet, but this from the Scandinavian EV Guide. http://www.evguide.nu/teknmassan2003.html I like the red one. I've been toying with the idea of building a cruiser. -- The Electric Motorcycle Portal http://www.electricmotorcycles.net/ Electric Motorcycle Listserv http://www.electricmotorcycles.net/listserv
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Havent been able to translate it yet, but this from the Scandinavian EV Guide. http://www.evguide.nu/teknmassan2003.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Here ia another article highlighting the new yamaha concept bikes. http://www.tokyo-motorshow.com/show/2005/english/public/news/data/tmsn_vol14_E.pdf this article is a proposal on using methanol fuel cells in a cycle unfortunately it used their '"C" is for cookie' scooter design as an example http://www.yamaha-motor.co.jp/global/profile/technical/publish/no37/pdf/gr_07.pdf __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Yeah, this stinks of BS. "not recharging ever" means: 1) Perpetual Motion / Over Unity : Bunk. 2) Fusion reactor. Not quite Back to the Future 3) Fuel Cell: Most plausible, but would need fuel, probably hydrogen. This wouldn't really be a "battery". As far as the explosion goes ... um ... huh? It'd be difficult to store that much energy in that small of a space with a purely chemical reaction. Mike wrote: http://www.transworldmotocross.com/mx/features/article/0,13190,1124217,00.html "Some of the electric vehicles that we worked on were so incredibly powerful, that they were probably dangerous. One of them had such a powerful battery, you would never have to recharge itŠever. But the battery was so dangerous that if you were in an accident and the battery got hit and the outer containment was breached so that oxygen and water got to the internal chemicals inside, it would explode. It wouldn't have been just a little explosion, either. This one battery could probably take out a city block." Maybe it was the Naquadria reactor. I saw that on Stargate SG-1 the other night. Pictures load for me. You aren't missing anything. -- The Electric Motorcycle Portal http://www.electricmotorcycles.net/ Electric Motorcycle Listserv http://www.electricmotorcycles.net/listserv
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Title: Re: [ElectricMotorcycles] some electric motorcycle article http://www.transworldmotocross.com/mx/features/article/0,13190,1124217,00.html "Some of the electric vehicles that we worked on were so incredibly powerful, that they were probably dangerous. One of them had such a powerful battery, you would never have to recharge itever. But the battery was so dangerous that if you were in an accident and the battery got hit and the outer containment was breached so that oxygen and water got to the internal chemicals inside, it would explode. It wouldn't have been just a little explosion, either. This one battery could probably take out a city block." Maybe it was the Naquadria reactor. I saw that on Stargate SG-1 the other night. Pictures load for me. You aren't missing anything. -- The Electric Motorcycle Portal http://www.electricmotorcycles.net/ Electric Motorcycle Listserv http://www.electricmotorcycles.net/listserv
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http://www.valence.com/broadband.wmv --- lyle sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lithium will react violently with water. On lithium > batteries when the cells are pierced, they react > causing a chain reaction and runaway heat. If this > reaction is in a confined space it will explode. > Valence had a cool video confirming this, but the > link > is inactive. > > http://www.valence.com/SafetyVideo.asp > > > > --- Doug Starwalt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Here is Cycra Racing's Ken Laivin in an > interview. > > He > > > mentions designing for an electric motorcycle > that > > was > > > too dangerous to ride. It probably was Li-Ion > > battery > > > powered. Sorry the pics dont load for me > either. > > > > > > > > > http://www.transworldmotocross.com/mx/features/article/0,13190,1124217,00.html > > > > The pics loaded fine for me. The electric source > > was definitely a fuel cell > > technology. When they said "containment" and > > "water", it was a firm clue. I > > am not aware of any phosphorus batteries, but > water > > and the right version of > > that is very "active." > > > > -=Doug > > > > > > > > > > > __ > Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
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Lithium will react violently with water. On lithium batteries when the cells are pierced, they react causing a chain reaction and runaway heat. If this reaction is in a confined space it will explode. Valence had a cool video confirming this, but the link is inactive. http://www.valence.com/SafetyVideo.asp --- Doug Starwalt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Here is Cycra Racing's Ken Laivin in an interview. > He > > mentions designing for an electric motorcycle that > was > > too dangerous to ride. It probably was Li-Ion > battery > > powered. Sorry the pics dont load for me either. > > > > > http://www.transworldmotocross.com/mx/features/article/0,13190,1124217,00.html > > The pics loaded fine for me. The electric source > was definitely a fuel cell > technology. When they said "containment" and > "water", it was a firm clue. I > am not aware of any phosphorus batteries, but water > and the right version of > that is very "active." > > -=Doug > > > __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
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> Here is Cycra Racing's Ken Laivin in an interview. He > mentions designing for an electric motorcycle that was > too dangerous to ride. It probably was Li-Ion battery > powered. Sorry the pics dont load for me either. > > http://www.transworldmotocross.com/mx/features/article/0,13190,1124217,00.html The pics loaded fine for me. The electric source was definitely a fuel cell technology. When they said "containment" and "water", it was a firm clue. I am not aware of any phosphorus batteries, but water and the right version of that is very "active." -=Doug
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Did you know I was able to find my posts on one of my blanket searches? It may have been page 10 or 11, but able to be found none the less. __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
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Here is Cycra Racing's Ken Laivin in an interview. He mentions designing for an electric motorcycle that was too dangerous to ride. It probably was Li-Ion battery powered. Sorry the pics dont load for me either. http://www.transworldmotocross.com/mx/features/article/0,13190,1124217,00.html __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com
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Thanks, I am just a very determined person and I sympathize with some ppl's frustration at not finding enough info. Also, all I can do is look at other ppl's builds for now. --- Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I just bought the article. As soon as I get it, I > >will scan and post for you all. > > lyle, you find such interesting links. > > > -- > > The Electric Motorcycle Portal > http://www.electricmotorcycles.net/ > > Electric Motorcycle Listserv > http://www.electricmotorcycles.net/listserv > > __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com
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I just bought the article. As soon as I get it, I will scan and post for you all. lyle, you find such interesting links. -- The Electric Motorcycle Portal http://www.electricmotorcycles.net/ Electric Motorcycle Listserv http://www.electricmotorcycles.net/listserv
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I just bought the article. As soon as I get it, I will scan and post for you all. --- lyle sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Some early electric motorcycle articles and pics > > A small 1911 electric motorcycle article actually > it's > a classified for sale of article. There is a pic of > the motorbike. > http://classifieds.aol.com/listing/details.aspx?listingid=A4846672 > __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com
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Some early electric motorcycle articles and pics A small 1911 electric motorcycle article actually it's a classified for sale of article. There is a pic of the motorbike. http://classifieds.aol.com/listing/details.aspx?listingid=A4846672 *** An early 1967 fuelcell moped. http://americanhistory.si.edu/fuelcells/alk/alk2.htm ** Mike Corbinn's early electric motorbike http://neobike.net/bikes/electric __ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/
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Video clip of the Honda motorcycle show that premiered their hybrid concept bike. http://video.msn.com/v/us/v.htm?g=1a473574-e229-412e-a823-1f581e01bb5c&f=copy __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
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Took me awhile to find this again after I first saw it on the show. The ENV on the NBC's Today show June 30, 2005 http://video.msn.com/v/us/v.htm?g=bb54f3a7-5b7f-44e2-94a5-ea4f4491e265&f=copy here is a brief transcript: AL Roaker: We're talking so far this year everyone is talking about hybrid vehicles. There expect about 200,000 and 260,000 next year. What we have here are 2 special bicycles and andy engleston is the E.N.V. project director of Intelligent Energy. Good Morning. Andy: Good morning nice to meet you too. AL: These 2 bikes are called the ENVY. WHat is the ENV? Andy ENgleton: Well, the ENV stand for Emission Neutral Vehicle. This is a hydrogen powered bike. It's a hybridized bike. Partly powered by a fuel cell and partly by battery. Lady1: This is interesting because many ppl think that about hydrogen power- "Is it safe?" Andy: yes, it is safe. Lady1: It is safe? Where is the hydrogen actually stored? Andy: The Hydrogen is stored in this chassis here in a pressurized cylinder. Lady1: Oh, inside this area here. Okay, alright. AL: Compared to a regular motorbike of this size, how powerful is it? Andy: It's about 9hp, but the bike is very light and powered by an electric motor. Lady2: The question of course that I want to know is "If I was to ride one of these, where do you refuel?" You say it can go 50 mph and go 100 miles, but where do you refuel one of these? Andy: It needs to be refueled every 100 miles on 5 ounces of hydrogen. But, you go to a hydrogen refueling station. AL: I dont know where any of those are around or not. Andy: There are not. There are 29 in California. Though there will be 200 in 2 years time. Lady1: What is your vision for this? Andy: We have a reforming technology so you should be able to produce hydrogen at home. Lady1: Oh. Andy: And fuel the bike with that. Using biofuel. AL: If you get into any kind of accident can the hydrogen get out? And if it does, can it be a problem? Andy: No, these all have their safety certificates and so on. So there is no danger from that. Lady2: When will they be able to be available on the market? ANd how much? Andy: They will be available as early as December 2006. It will be somewhere between 6-8 thousand dollars. Lady1: Its a nice to know that ppl are looking seriously at alternative forms of fuel because obviously that is a problem. Lady2: Yes, I want to buy one. AL: I got a couple of guys in helmets [over there]. Lady1: Thank you for coming out. Andy: Yeah, we're gonna start them up now. Lady2: We are gonna get out of the way. Andy, thanks so much. AL: Now the interesting thing is you dont really hear anything Andy: Right. There is little sound and the only emmission is water vapor. Lady1: Wow. That's fantastic. So it is better for the environment. AL: Look I cant even hear them. Dont hit anybody. Lady2: Thanks, Andy. __ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/
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Mike asked: > You speak German, Doug? I studied it two years and had a german buddy in college in Florida. We both had 69 Mustangs and would spend the weekend wrenching on them. I helped him restore his BSA (don't remember which one, but a 250 single jug). We would also buzz around on his dad's Bimmer with me riding passenger. Great fun! His mom would cook these big german dinners on Sunday night and after the wine took effect, the conversations became bi-lingual. But, that was long ago and now I depend on Babelfish and Deutsche-Welle for "accurate" translations. I would call myself literate on a 2nd grade level. ;) -=Doug
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You speak German, Doug? They are from Austria for sure. The article goes on to discuss the wreck and teh fact that the Italians won the day. It looks like it was hot that day. That's how wars are started I think. -- The Electric Motorcycle Portal http://www.electricmotorcycles.net/ Electric Motorcycle Listserv http://www.electricmotorcycles.net/listserv
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Has anyone seen this article? I referring to this blurb on the Lectra forum: Hi Mike Just wondering if any of the group has seen the Jan 06 issue of Walnecks Classic Cycles magazine? It has an article on page 136 & 137 about a 1977 electric MC built by Transitron of Honulu, Hawaii. Doesn't look too practical but at least they were trying! thnx Iceman __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
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> >pics of the EVN Cup 2003 > >http://www.htl-hl.ac.at/hauptseite/news/030701evncup03/ > > I think this is the page of the bike with the homemade frame. It > looks like it hit a wall too... :( It did wreck. That is discussed in the pdf that the photos are drawn from. I am not sure if the frame is homebrew or not, but it looks they used GS500 wheels on it. Katana wheels have dual front rotors. The front fork tubes could be GSX-R or others and the rear shock is definitely race quality. The front tire is very thin compared to a stock GS tire. Probably low rolling resistance and definitely slick. This bike seems to be a school team project. The "HTL" on the shirts is the initial for the school. The "L" standing for "technical achievement center." They are from Austria for sure. The article goes on to discuss the wreck and teh fact that the Italians won the day. It looks like it was hot that day. -=Doug
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Here are a couple of photo albums with cycles @ the EVN Cup pics of the EVN Cup 2003 http://www.htl-hl.ac.at/hauptseite/news/030701evncup03/ I think this is the page of the bike with the homemade frame. It looks like it hit a wall too... :( -- The Electric Motorcycle Portal http://www.electricmotorcycles.net/ Electric Motorcycle Listserv http://www.electricmotorcycles.net/listserv
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Here are a couple of photo albums with cycles @ the EVN Cup pics of the EVN Cup 2003 http://www.htl-hl.ac.at/hauptseite/news/030701evncup03/ EVN Cup 2002 http://www.haliklik.at/gal1/evn02/index_5.htm PDF of 2002 http://www.htl-hl.ac.at/hauptseite/news/030701evncup03/evn_cup2002.pdf EVN Cup 2001 http://www.haliklik.at/gal1/evn/index.htm EVN Builder for 1999 http://www.htl-hl.ac.at/m/fachliches/PROJEKTE/EVNCup/Bilder.html __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
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Retry seems to be working now. http://www.mlive.com/news/aanews/index.ssf?/base/news-14/1125137482146900.xml&coll=2 Stupid mlive.com. Thanks for checking back, Lyle. that was a good read. Too bad they didn't tell us how man watt/hours he was running or his gearing. Ha ha. Mike -- The Electric Motorcycle Portal http://www.electricmotorcycles.net/ Electric Motorcycle Listserv http://www.electricmotorcycles.net/listserv
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Thanks Mike, but I really dont deserve any credit. It was from a 2002 motorcyclecity's article I have saved from my list of links. http://motorcyclecity.com/electric-hybrid/ecycle.htm You will find bettimoto on page 6. Too late. The pooh of credit has been slung and it's sticking to you. -- The Electric Motorcycle Portal http://www.electricmotorcycles.net/ Electric Motorcycle Listserv http://www.electricmotorcycles.net/listserv
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Here is a vid of them in action http://www.elettroracing.it/images/VideoGal/Moretti.wmv from the http://www.elettroracing.it/ Short but sweet. -- The Electric Motorcycle Portal http://www.electricmotorcycles.net/ Electric Motorcycle Listserv http://www.electricmotorcycles.net/listserv
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Retry seems to be working now. http://www.mlive.com/news/aanews/index.ssf?/base/news-14/1125137482146900.xml&coll=2 Ann Harbor News Electric motorcycle leaves price hikes in the dust Saturday, August 27, 2005 Editor's note: This week, we take a daily look at how people in this area are coping with high gas prices. Unlike most motorists these days, Terry Richards feels pretty good when he drives by a gas station, no matter how high the price per gallon. "I just kind of thumb my nose at them, and it feels good,'' said Richards, 47, admitting it's easier when you're not feeling the pinch of recent sharp price increases. The reason? Richards, a test specialist at Chrysler Corp. Proving Grounds in Sylvan Township, rides a 21-year-old racing motorcycle he converted into a fully electric-powered vehicle for about $2,000. "I study a lot of material about alternative energy sources, and I had a pretty good idea (the price hike) was going to come, and fast,'' said Richards, a driver mechanic by trade and environmentalist at heart. The 1984 Yamaha RZ350 racing bike was never known for gas mileage, he said, but now runs on 48 volts of electricity stored in four batteries. Richards calculates spending 4 cents per mile to operate it and averages about $15 worth of electricity per week if he drives it every day. The motorcycle cruises at 40-45 mph and can reach a top speed of 60 mph, he said. The batteries collectively take about fours to fully charge and provide enough juice to average about 16 miles per use. Not too far, but far enough to make his 13-mile daily commute to work, where he has permission to plug in to an electrical outlet. He also regularly rides in to downtown Dexter, where he says people marvel at the quiet engine. "I've had joggers jump out right in front of me because they just don't hear it,'' he said, likening the soft hum to a household blender. Richards admits he and his wife, Rosemary, still do the majority of their driving with their two sedans. But these days, even skipping one or two commutes or deciding to stay home can add up to significant savings over a month's time. "I wanted to get off gasoline as early as possible, and I'm glad I did,'' he said. "But it's just a start.'' Richards' latest project is constructing a hybrid bio-diesel car, which he hopes to have done within a few years. Art Aisner, News staff reporter --- Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Thanks and Sorry. The link worked 2 days prior to > >sending it. The author was extolling how great it > was > >to simple recharge and go as compared to the gas > >station on a converted motorcycle. > > Bummer. It must have gone outside of their 14 day > archive. Was it > about an Ann Arbor rider? Ann Arbor isn't very far > from me. > > __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
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Here is a vid of them in action http://www.elettroracing.it/images/VideoGal/Moretti.wmv from the http://www.elettroracing.it/ --- Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Sportbike racer http://www.bettimoto.com you need > to > >go to a translator like > >http://babelfish.altavista.com/ to translate from > >italian to english > __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
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Thanks Mike, but I really dont deserve any credit. It was from a 2002 motorcyclecity's article I have saved from my list of links. http://motorcyclecity.com/electric-hybrid/ecycle.htm You will find bettimoto on page 6. Incidentally, my list of links is found at the visforvoltage.com forum http://www.visforvoltage.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=23&t=2330&s=7ec0750ae129e38fcd86e063beed3534 --- Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Sportbike racer http://www.bettimoto.com you need > to > >go to a translator like > >http://babelfish.altavista.com/ to translate from > >italian to english > > Wow! Thanks Lyle! I'm trying to make sense of the > translation and > will make a news post on the main website. > > 'Till then, here's a picture to hold you over: > > -- > > The Electric Motorcycle Portal > http://www.electricmotorcycles.net/ > > Electric Motorcycle Listserv > http://www.electricmotorcycles.net/listserv __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
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Sportbike racer http://www.bettimoto.com you need to go to a translator like http://babelfish.altavista.com/ to translate from italian to english --- lyle sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
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some videos of gas and electric minimoto racing courtesy of teamvoltage as posted on the visforvoltage forums. Vids were taken from AMMRA events. I hope noone from Team Voltage is on this mailing list then I will feel really silly for posting their info. I wanted to race electric mini's this winter but the local mini organization said no. It didn't help when someone posted this link to the discussion board: http://snipurl.com/electricCRF50 :( -- The Electric Motorcycle Portal http://www.electricmotorcycles.net/ Electric Motorcycle Listserv http://www.electricmotorcycles.net/listserv.php
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some videos of gas and electric minimoto racing courtesy of teamvoltage as posted on the visforvoltage forums. Vids were taken from AMMRA events. I hope noone from Team Voltage is on this mailing list then I will feel really silly for posting their info. Some Background info as posted by Visforvoltage member name Maytag21 30Mar2005= "Here's a video of the 1st of 3 heats for the Midbikes Class-C. This class was Midbikes upto 110cc plus Electrics. As you will see they also mixed in dirtbikes/motards into this class and the dirtbikes had a clear advantage in the cornering. Steve and I both blasted into the 1 & 2 positions early in the race but the dirtbikes overtook both of us, carving through openings a Midbike wouldnt be able to. Todd Kollins was hangin out in the back on his electric just learning the track (no practice because he was a late show). We didnt have enough tape to cam heats 2 and 3, wish we did because it was all electrics at the start for the final heat. It was Todd(1), Steve(2) and Me(3) for the first 2 laps then I and a dirtbiker found a way to get around Steve. The dirtbiker eventually won and I barely nudged out Todd for 2nd with less than a 1/4 lap to go. The adrenaline rush was so intense that I had no problem driving the hour and fifteen minutes back home when I shoulda been dead tired." http://www.diversebydesign.com/gallery/albums/Maytag/PB_Racing/PBGP_Midbikes.wmv A January 2005 race at an indoor and outdoor track. More info here. http://www.visforvoltage.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=13&t=1571&s=2721452e86445312959942102483a122 here's the vid of the event (IF you dont like the music, turn it down. It is good racing) http://home.comcast.net/~maytag21/videos/AMMRA_SPBs.wmv --- lyle sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
