[OzMOSS] RE: Farm level Site directory

2007-10-25 Thread Mick Badran
Hi Ishai - great to hear from you J

I designed and implemented one such soluition - farm wide 'site directory'.

As you know with Sharepoint the implementation chosen depends on how many 
sites/items you're playing with at any point in time.
(e.g. while lists can hold 300K - 500K items in folders. What's practical for 
the user? How to locate these in a view? Paging items etc. - in contrast to a 
handful of items, these techniques are fine)

For this reason I decided to use implicit searching to return back a list of 
'top level' sites through a custom web part - tree views are nice too. We used 
folders and subfolders to represent the heirachy. This presented a familiar 
view to the users to what they're used to.

Also Search took care of permission trimming in the search results. The custom 
web part went off and grabbed additional descriptive information about the Site 
if requested (this was set via a Web Part property)

As we all know - there's a bunch of ways to do this. We had pretty aggressive 
deadlines around all this - it did the job.

Hope this helps,

Cheers,

Mick.


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Just wondering how many people implemented a master site directory, and if 
anyone wants to share any interesting ways they used to do that. I have a 
friend overseas who is looking for options for a customer.
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[OzMOSS] RE: Farm level Site directory

2007-10-25 Thread Ishai Sagi
Thanks Mick - good to hear from you too!
Yeah, search is a great way to solve many problems - I have forwarded this to 
my friend and maybe they will do the same...

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Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2007 10:07 PM
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Subject: [OzMOSS] RE: Farm level Site directory

Hi Ishai – great to hear from you J

I designed and implemented one such soluition – farm wide ‘site directory’.

As you know with Sharepoint the implementation chosen depends on how many 
sites/items you’re playing with at any point in time.
(e.g. while lists can hold 300K – 500K items in folders. What’s practical for 
the user? How to locate these in a view? Paging items etc. – in contrast to a 
handful of items, these techniques are fine)

For this reason I decided to use implicit searching to return back a list of 
‘top level’ sites through a custom web part – tree views are nice too. We used 
folders and subfolders to represent the heirachy. This presented a familiar 
view to the users to what they’re used to.

Also Search took care of permission trimming in the search results. The custom 
web part went off and grabbed additional descriptive information about the Site 
if requested (this was set via a Web Part property)

As we all know – there’s a bunch of ways to do this. We had pretty aggressive 
deadlines around all this – it did the job.

Hope this helps,

Cheers,

Mick.


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[OzMOSS] RE: Farm level Site directory

2007-10-24 Thread Ishai Sagi
Also it is not a site directory solution

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Subject: [OzMOSS] RE: Farm level Site directory

Aaron,
that product is for sharepoint 2003 (atleast based on the video and 
documentation available on the echo site).


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Hi Ishai,
Maybe this is what you are after?
http://www.echotechnology.com/products/SiteListings/Pages/default.aspx

hth,
Aaron


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[OzMOSS] RE: Farm level Site directory

2007-10-24 Thread Aaron Saikovski
thought it might be worth a look..


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Subject: [OzMOSS] RE: Farm level Site directory

Also it is not a site directory solution

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Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2007 3:30 PM
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Subject: [OzMOSS] RE: Farm level Site directory

Aaron,
that product is for sharepoint 2003 (atleast based on the video and 
documentation available on the echo site).


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Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2007 3:16 PM
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Subject: [OzMOSS] RE: Farm level Site directory

Hi Ishai,
Maybe this is what you are after?
http://www.echotechnology.com/products/SiteListings/Pages/default.aspx

hth,
Aaron


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Just wondering how many people implemented a master site directory, and if 
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friend overseas who is looking for options for a customer.

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RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Farm level Site directory

2007-10-24 Thread Aaron Robertson-Hodder
Hmmm, assuming a site directory is a treeview style view of all the site 
collections/webs and document libraries on a web application, then we have 
pretty much completed one to compliment one of our products. However, given the 
comments about marketing this morning I cannot mention any details! ;-) But if 
your client is interested in buy vs build, let me know.



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Sent: Thu 10/25/2007 3:34 PM
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Subject: [OzMOSS] RE: Farm level Site directory
 
Also it is not a site directory solution

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ishai Sagi [EMAIL 
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Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2007 3:30 PM
To: listserver@ozMOSS.com
Subject: [OzMOSS] RE: Farm level Site directory

Aaron,
that product is for sharepoint 2003 (atleast based on the video and 
documentation available on the echo site).


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Saikovski [EMAIL 
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Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2007 3:16 PM
To: listserver@ozMOSS.com
Subject: [OzMOSS] RE: Farm level Site directory

Hi Ishai,
Maybe this is what you are after?
http://www.echotechnology.com/products/SiteListings/Pages/default.aspx

hth,
Aaron


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Re: [OzMOSS] RE: Farm level Site directory

2007-10-24 Thread Bill Williamson
My guess would be he wants a centralized list of ALL sites on the
Farm, not just on one web applicatoin.

EG if you have three web applications defined, each with 10 sites, a
central list of all 30 of those sites.

The way we have done this sort of thing (but with a different purpose
in mind) was using:
-a custom content type
-a custom feature creating a list with only 1 item (and event handlers
to cancel adding/removing... only updates were allowed) of that
content type
-a customized page which does a query for all of that content type
(using the search API, not just the default web parts)

As long as they all have the same SSP it works nicely.

OUR purpose was to allow sites to be typed and to have status
information, and thus you could filter based on this, but it would
also RESULT in giving you a list of all sites on the farm.  If your
content type contained fields like category descripion etc then it
could REALLY serve to create a site directory.

Unfortunatly it's a bit of custom coding, but not too much, mostly
just the glue.

I can give more details if anyone is interested.

On 10/25/07, Aaron Robertson-Hodder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hmmm, assuming a site directory is a treeview style view of all the site 
 collections/webs and document libraries on a web application, then we have 
 pretty much completed one to compliment one of our products. However, given 
 the comments about marketing this morning I cannot mention any details! ;-) 
 But if your client is interested in buy vs build, let me know.



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Ishai Sagi
 Sent: Thu 10/25/2007 3:34 PM
 To: listserver@ozMOSS.com
 Subject: [OzMOSS] RE: Farm level Site directory

 Also it is not a site directory solution
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ishai Sagi [EMAIL 
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 Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2007 3:30 PM
 To: listserver@ozMOSS.com
 Subject: [OzMOSS] RE: Farm level Site directory

 Aaron,
 that product is for sharepoint 2003 (atleast based on the video and 
 documentation available on the echo site).

 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Saikovski [EMAIL 
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 Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2007 3:16 PM
 To: listserver@ozMOSS.com
 Subject: [OzMOSS] RE: Farm level Site directory

 Hi Ishai,
 Maybe this is what you are after?
 http://www.echotechnology.com/products/SiteListings/Pages/default.aspx

 hth,
 Aaron

 
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RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Farm level Site directory

2007-10-24 Thread Ishai Sagi
Bill - this is exactly the sort of answer my friend is looking for - thanks.
Does anyone else on the list want to share?


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Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2007 3:51 PM
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Subject: Re: [OzMOSS] RE: Farm level Site directory

My guess would be he wants a centralized list of ALL sites on the
Farm, not just on one web applicatoin.

EG if you have three web applications defined, each with 10 sites, a
central list of all 30 of those sites.

The way we have done this sort of thing (but with a different purpose
in mind) was using:
-a custom content type
-a custom feature creating a list with only 1 item (and event handlers
to cancel adding/removing... only updates were allowed) of that
content type
-a customized page which does a query for all of that content type
(using the search API, not just the default web parts)

As long as they all have the same SSP it works nicely.

OUR purpose was to allow sites to be typed and to have status
information, and thus you could filter based on this, but it would
also RESULT in giving you a list of all sites on the farm.  If your
content type contained fields like category descripion etc then it
could REALLY serve to create a site directory.

Unfortunatly it's a bit of custom coding, but not too much, mostly
just the glue.

I can give more details if anyone is interested.

On 10/25/07, Aaron Robertson-Hodder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hmmm, assuming a site directory is a treeview style view of all the site 
 collections/webs and document libraries on a web application, then we have 
 pretty much completed one to compliment one of our products. However, given 
 the comments about marketing this morning I cannot mention any details! ;-) 
 But if your client is interested in buy vs build, let me know.



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Ishai Sagi
 Sent: Thu 10/25/2007 3:34 PM
 To: listserver@ozMOSS.com
 Subject: [OzMOSS] RE: Farm level Site directory

 Also it is not a site directory solution
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ishai Sagi [EMAIL 
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 Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2007 3:30 PM
 To: listserver@ozMOSS.com
 Subject: [OzMOSS] RE: Farm level Site directory

 Aaron,
 that product is for sharepoint 2003 (atleast based on the video and 
 documentation available on the echo site).

 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Saikovski [EMAIL 
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 Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2007 3:16 PM
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 Subject: [OzMOSS] RE: Farm level Site directory

 Hi Ishai,
 Maybe this is what you are after?
 http://www.echotechnology.com/products/SiteListings/Pages/default.aspx

 hth,
 Aaron

 
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