RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Teched BDC presentation

[Ishai Sagi]

Not exactly my LOB, but from what I know the SSDS will have a lot of web 
services (which may include bdc-complian functions) and at the end of the day 
has data stored in SQL (although the ideal would be that BDC doesn't go 
directly to the data).
I did not install the beta or experimented with it, so I can't say how 
difficult it would be to build an application config to connect the two.

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Richard
Sent: Monday, 4 August 2008 8:57 AM
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Hi Ishai,

This may be somewhat off the beaten track, but I was recently wondering about 
using the BDC to connect to SQL Server Dataservices ;-)

Any thoughts on that?

Cheers,
Ed

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Maybe a comparison of the BDC and the new federated search capabilities?

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ishai Sagi
Sent: Monday, 28 July 2008 2:57 PM
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Subject: [OzMOSS] Teched BDC presentation

Hello everyone,
I thought I may try something new this year, and ask people what they expect 
from the presentation before I start working on it.
I am presenting with an American MVP about the BDC - a level 400 presentation. 
What would you want to see in that presentation?

I am leaving this as an open question because I do not want to limit your 
thinking - just shoot me what would make you happy to see. After all, the 
people in this list are the most likely to come see the presentation!

Thanks!

Ishai Sagi
Solutions Architect
Information Services

Mobile:   04 2379 1728
Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Teched BDC presentation

[Ed Richard]

Hi Ishai, 

 

This may be somewhat off the beaten track, but I was recently wondering
about using the BDC to connect to SQL Server Dataservices ;-)

 

Any thoughts on that?

 

Cheers,

Ed

 

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Aaron Saikovski
Sent: Sunday, 3 August 2008 6:54 PM
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Subject: [OzMOSS] RE: Teched BDC presentation

 

Maybe a comparison of the BDC and the new federated search capabilities?

 

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Ishai Sagi
Sent: Monday, 28 July 2008 2:57 PM
To: listserver@ozmoss.com
Subject: [OzMOSS] Teched BDC presentation

 

Hello everyone,

I thought I may try something new this year, and ask people what they expect
from the presentation before I start working on it.

I am presenting with an American MVP about the BDC - a level 400
presentation. What would you want to see in that presentation? 

 

I am leaving this as an open question because I do not want to limit your
thinking - just shoot me what would make you happy to see. After all, the
people in this list are the most likely to come see the presentation!

 

Thanks!

 

Ishai Sagi
Solutions Architect
Information Services

 
Mobile:   04 2379 1728
Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web:  <http://www.uniqueworld.net> www.uniqueworld.net
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[OzMOSS] RE: Teched BDC presentation

[Aaron Saikovski]

Maybe a comparison of the BDC and the new federated search capabilities?

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ishai Sagi
Sent: Monday, 28 July 2008 2:57 PM
To: listserver@ozmoss.com
Subject: [OzMOSS] Teched BDC presentation

Hello everyone,
I thought I may try something new this year, and ask people what they expect 
from the presentation before I start working on it.
I am presenting with an American MVP about the BDC - a level 400 presentation. 
What would you want to see in that presentation?

I am leaving this as an open question because I do not want to limit your 
thinking - just shoot me what would make you happy to see. After all, the 
people in this list are the most likely to come see the presentation!

Thanks!

Ishai Sagi
Solutions Architect
Information Services

Mobile:   04 2379 1728
Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web: www.uniqueworld.net
Blog:  www.sharepoint-tips.com
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RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Teched BDC presentation

[Ishai Sagi]

Thanks Bob  - I will keep that in mind when working on the demos

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Bradley
Sent: Wednesday, 30 July 2008 6:32 AM
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Ishai
I don't know about everyone else, but so far what I've seen of the BDC looks 
much like what could be done through data views using Front Page 2003.  I'm 
sure it does more than that (I've heard it being used to extend the user 
profile import process for instance), but I think it is probably quite 
misunderstood still.  For instance, I remember reading that it was capable of 
supporting bi-directional updates ... is that true, and if so, what are the 
constraints to this?  Otherwise, surely something that is just read-only 
querying tool doesn't constitute "Business Data Connectivity" ...
I work predominantly with Microsoft ILM, and would like to better understand 
where a BDC approach is favourable to an ILM-driven 
provisioning/synchronisation approach.  I prescribe to a "horses for courses" 
approach with these things, and what I am looking for is an honest assessment 
and greater understanding of its strengths and weaknesses over the alternatives 
(which would also include BizTalk).
I would like to see some practical real-world examples of how it meets real 
business requirements, and is not just a sexy feature that is another "solution 
waiting to find a problem".
Cheers
Bob


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ishai Sagi
Sent: Tuesday, 29 July 2008 12:38 AM
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Subject: [OzMOSS] RE: Teched BDC presentation
Thanks Chris. I will keep this in my notes


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Grist
Sent: Monday, 28 July 2008 3:37 PM
To: listserver@ozMOSS.com
Subject: [OzMOSS] RE: Teched BDC presentation

Hope to be there, budget permitting.

I don't know how advanced the presentation is going to be, but for what ive 
done so far I have done everything by hand. So would be keen to see how easy 
the tools are that were released recently to create the bdc apps using the gui.

Perhaps some possible integration with dynamics sl/crm or similar would be 
useful also and maybe some things that is out of the ordinary :)

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ishai Sagi
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 2:27 PM
To: listserver@ozmoss.com
Subject: [OzMOSS] Teched BDC presentation

Hello everyone,
I thought I may try something new this year, and ask people what they expect 
from the presentation before I start working on it.
I am presenting with an American MVP about the BDC - a level 400 presentation. 
What would you want to see in that presentation?

I am leaving this as an open question because I do not want to limit your 
thinking - just shoot me what would make you happy to see. After all, the 
people in this list are the most likely to come see the presentation!

Thanks!

Ishai Sagi
Solutions Architect
Information Services

Mobile:   04 2379 1728
Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Web: www.uniqueworld.net<http://www.uniqueworld.net>
Blog:  www.sharepoint-tips.com<http://www.sharepoint-tips.com/>
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RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Teched BDC presentation

[Bob Bradley]

Ishai
I don't know about everyone else, but so far what I've seen of the BDC
looks much like what could be done through data views using Front Page
2003.  I'm sure it does more than that (I've heard it being used to
extend the user profile import process for instance), but I think it is
probably quite misunderstood still.  For instance, I remember reading
that it was capable of supporting bi-directional updates ... is that
true, and if so, what are the constraints to this?  Otherwise, surely
something that is just read-only querying tool doesn't constitute
"Business Data Connectivity" ...
I work predominantly with Microsoft ILM, and would like to better
understand where a BDC approach is favourable to an ILM-driven
provisioning/synchronisation approach.  I prescribe to a "horses for
courses" approach with these things, and what I am looking for is an
honest assessment and greater understanding of its strengths and
weaknesses over the alternatives (which would also include BizTalk).
I would like to see some practical real-world examples of how it meets
real business requirements, and is not just a sexy feature that is
another "solution waiting to find a problem".
Cheers
Bob



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Thanks Chris. I will keep this in my notes

 

 

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Of Chris Grist
Sent: Monday, 28 July 2008 3:37 PM
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Subject: [OzMOSS] RE: Teched BDC presentation

 

Hope to be there, budget permitting.

 

I don't know how advanced the presentation is going to be, but for what
ive done so far I have done everything by hand. So would be keen to see
how easy the tools are that were released recently to create the bdc
apps using the gui.

 

Perhaps some possible integration with dynamics sl/crm or similar would
be useful also and maybe some things that is out of the ordinary J

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Ishai Sagi
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 2:27 PM
To: listserver@ozmoss.com
Subject: [OzMOSS] Teched BDC presentation

 

Hello everyone,

I thought I may try something new this year, and ask people what they
expect from the presentation before I start working on it.

I am presenting with an American MVP about the BDC - a level 400
presentation. What would you want to see in that presentation? 

 

I am leaving this as an open question because I do not want to limit
your thinking - just shoot me what would make you happy to see. After
all, the people in this list are the most likely to come see the
presentation!

 

Thanks!

 

Ishai Sagi
Solutions Architect
Information Services


Mobile:   04 2379 1728
Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[OzMOSS] RE: Teched BDC presentation

[Ishai Sagi]

Thanks Chris. I will keep this in my notes


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Grist
Sent: Monday, 28 July 2008 3:37 PM
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Subject: [OzMOSS] RE: Teched BDC presentation

Hope to be there, budget permitting.

I don't know how advanced the presentation is going to be, but for what ive 
done so far I have done everything by hand. So would be keen to see how easy 
the tools are that were released recently to create the bdc apps using the gui.

Perhaps some possible integration with dynamics sl/crm or similar would be 
useful also and maybe some things that is out of the ordinary :)

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ishai Sagi
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 2:27 PM
To: listserver@ozmoss.com
Subject: [OzMOSS] Teched BDC presentation

Hello everyone,
I thought I may try something new this year, and ask people what they expect 
from the presentation before I start working on it.
I am presenting with an American MVP about the BDC - a level 400 presentation. 
What would you want to see in that presentation?

I am leaving this as an open question because I do not want to limit your 
thinking - just shoot me what would make you happy to see. After all, the 
people in this list are the most likely to come see the presentation!

Thanks!

Ishai Sagi
Solutions Architect
Information Services

Mobile:   04 2379 1728
Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Web: www.uniqueworld.net<http://www.uniqueworld.net>
Blog:  www.sharepoint-tips.com<http://www.sharepoint-tips.com/>
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[OzMOSS] RE: Teched BDC presentation

[Chris Grist]

Hope to be there, budget permitting.

I don't know how advanced the presentation is going to be, but for what ive 
done so far I have done everything by hand. So would be keen to see how easy 
the tools are that were released recently to create the bdc apps using the gui.

Perhaps some possible integration with dynamics sl/crm or similar would be 
useful also and maybe some things that is out of the ordinary :)

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ishai Sagi
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 2:27 PM
To: listserver@ozmoss.com
Subject: [OzMOSS] Teched BDC presentation

Hello everyone,
I thought I may try something new this year, and ask people what they expect 
from the presentation before I start working on it.
I am presenting with an American MVP about the BDC - a level 400 presentation. 
What would you want to see in that presentation?

I am leaving this as an open question because I do not want to limit your 
thinking - just shoot me what would make you happy to see. After all, the 
people in this list are the most likely to come see the presentation!

Thanks!

Ishai Sagi
Solutions Architect
Information Services

Mobile:   04 2379 1728
Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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