Re: Forwarded : RE: [Tottenham] Preview la-di-da-da

[James Powell]

On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 04:45:17PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> * Steve Purkis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > Come on you spurs...  ;-)
> > 
> 
> its the big one soon steven, Spurs vs. the Arse 
> 
> -- 
> Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net

Got tickets, bit too near the gooners for my liking.

Re: Forwarded : RE: [Tottenham] Preview la-di-da-da

[James Powell]

On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 08:05:26PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> * James Powell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 04:45:17PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> > > * Steve Purkis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > > Come on you spurs...  ;-)
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > its the big one soon steven, Spurs vs. the Arse 
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
> > 
> > Got tickets, bit too near the gooners for my liking.
> 
> just how many tickets do you have my old mate ;-)

(a) You have to have a members book
(b) Compensation for redialling the ticketline number for hours
will run into a considerable sum of money ;)


jp

Re: me-commerce

[James Powell]

On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 12:04:28PM +, jo walsh wrote:
> 
> - support for multiple transaction handlers (iPin, DataCash)

Erk, had some trouble with DataCash (and worldpay come to that).
Make sure you have some redundancy in this area (as Datacash don't)

jp

Re: Re: Donation..

[James Powell]

On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 08:14:26AM -0800, Dave Cross wrote:
> 
> From: Piers Cawley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 12/18/00 9:40:40 AM
> 
> >"Leo Lapworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >> [snip]
> >> 
> >> Just as a reminder, still looking for Senior Perl Guys 
> >> to join Leon and the rest of our team, and I get to
> >> donate $1000 if they come from the list *nudge* *nudge*.
> >
> > Hmm... you interested in contractors?
> 
> At the last minute, Piers wins the award for the most badly timed
> post on london.pm this year.
> 
> Second place (by a narrow margin) was Leo's post which Piers
> was replying to.
> 
> Dave...
> 

Third place you for nominating EMAP for services to perl ;) ?


jp

Re: Donation [off topic]

[James Powell]

On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 06:13:32PM -, Dean S Wilson wrote:
> -Original Message-
> From: Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 20 December 2000 17:23
> Subject: Re: Donation..
> 
> 
> >> Your memory is flawed. Pantos aren't even slightly entertaining.
> >
> >not even the comic genius jim davidson's adult one?
> 
> 
> Warning both of these are VERY crude pantos!
> Sinderella is a bit boring, boobs in the wood is a good laugh. If you
> don't
> get offended then "In the Wood" is well worth a watch.

Aha, a Jim Davidson connoisseur!

I thought he was supposed to b*gger off (along with Paul
Daniels and Andrew Lloyd Webber) when Labour won the last election ;)

jp

Re: Donation [off topic]

[James Powell]

On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 07:45:05AM +, Dave Cross wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 01:33:33AM -, Dean S Wilson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
>wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: James Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 
> > >Aha, a Jim Davidson connoisseur!
> > 
> > Complement or insult? Taking the lists view i'll go with insult ;)

Just found it amusing really - my girlfriend really, really hates
Jim Davidson and I sometimes threaten forcing her to watch the Generation
Game or whatever... I've been known to watch Marshall Law and Walker 
Texas Ranger so won't attempt to claim the high ground.

> 
> [1] I was recently reminded just _how_ bad these people were in thier
> prime when I accidently caught some of a repeat of "The Comedians"
> on Granada Plus. I was is shock for days.

The Comedians is so shocking, it even makes Big Break look watchable!


jp

Re: OT : DVD

[James Powell]

On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 04:12:12PM -0500, mallum wrote:
> I've seen this in electronics botique on Oxford Street.
> 
> You can also get the sequal to dragons lair (space something...?) and a some
> wierd hologram based game which I can nearly remember.

Space Ace!

What's wrong with the 6-floppy multiple swapping amiga version
of Dragons Lair anyway?

You can't beat marble madness for old arcade games though...
and it runs nicely in MAME.

jp

Re: Feelers for London Open Source Convention

[James Powell]

On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 11:08:41AM +, alex wrote:
> 
> In my opinion London would be fine for an August conference.
> 
> I don't know what the fuss is about, really.  London is not like Paris in
> the summer.  We have a lot more parks.
> 
> Perhaps September would be better, but hey.
> 

Yeah ditto...



jp

Re: Feelers for London Open Source Convention

[James Powell]

On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 11:47:37AM +, Marcel Grunauer wrote:
> 
> David Cantrell writes:
> 
> >Actually I'd rather it not be in the UK at all.  After all, if my employers
> >are going to pay to send me to a conference, then they may as well pay to
> >send me somewhere nice.  Rome.  Or Vienna perhaps, cos I've never been
> >there.
> 
> Good idea, hold it in Vienna. Makes for an easy commute (for a change).

This means nothing to me, ohhh...

(sorry)

Re: [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

[James Powell]

On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 10:21:45AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
> At Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:16:59 +, Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>wrote:
> > * David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 02:56:43PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> > > 
> > > > there is a big question here, do people want to create a small 
> > > > business with a few perl programmers all on largish salaries or 
> > > > do people want to create a proper consulting business aiming to 
> > > > see it grow
> > > 
> > > Both, of course :-)
> > 
> > yip, but you have to make a choice
> 
> Why? Is there a good reason why the former couldn't gradually over time
> metamorphose into the latter?
> 
> Dave...

I presume if the vast majority of the money is going directly into
people's pockets there won't be much going into things that build the
infrastructure of the company - training and so on.

Also one way to build a business is to create a "product" and build round
that (eg cough spew choke Vignette). Working on this sort of thing
may not result in great income in the short term compared to say chucking
ten people off to Goldman Sachs.

jp

Re: odd -w effect

[James Powell]

On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:39:13PM +, Michael Stevens wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:36:40PM +, Roger Burton West wrote:
> > On or about Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:31:28PM +, Michael Stevens typed:
> > >I propose we drag these people and drop them in those big rubbish bins
> > >you see outside offices.
> > D&D is vaguely useful sometimes. Just not when I'm editing text.
> 
> I hate to say it, but I'm slowly becoming converted to windows cut & paste.
> 
> I like being able to highlight a block of text and hit ctrl-v to replace
> that with the contents of the clipboard.
> 

Presume you have Pending-delete-mode in Xemacs set up then

I also have this in my .emacs (ctrl changed to alt, just to confuse
me when moving platforms but not to confuse emacs or X).

;; windows emu
(require 'pc-select)
(pc-select-mode t)
(global-set-key [(alt c)] copy-primary-selection)
(global-set-key [(alt v)] yank)
(global-set-key [(alt x)] copy-region-as-kill)
(global-set-key [(alt left)] backward-word)
(global-set-key [(alt right)] forward-word)
(global-set-key [(alt up)] backward-paragraph)
(global-set-key [(alt down)] forward-paragraph)

Re: Dumb-assed question

[James Powell]

On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 11:05:49AM +, Struan Donald wrote:
> * at 25/01 10:37 + Michael Stevens said:
> > On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 06:02:25PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >   Dreamweaver (I know, don't ask) nicely escapes the spaces to %20 but when
> > >   I try and download these, the %20 appears in the Netscape file save as box
> > >   instead of spaces.
> > 
> > Dreamweaver is by far the best GUI html development tool I'm aware of.
> 
> the number of times i've sent stuff to people that works fine, had
> them run it through dreamweaver and then complain that it's broken
> makes me wonder what the bad gui tools are like. 
> 
> struan

Waiter, a copy of Frontpage 2000 for the gentleman!


jp

Re: Mailing List Archive

[James Powell]

On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 11:24:44PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> * Robin Houston ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 09:14:08PM +, Leon Brocard wrote:
> > >   o grow up
> > 
> > Hey! No need to get defensive till you lose the vote :-)
> > 
> 
> i vote for no vote, keep things as they are
> 
> if people object to their views being public, don't post them in what
> is a public forum - if this is still a problem, then the question should
> be should london.pm become a private forum, with people being added after
> a vote - this smells fishy to me ;-) ;-) ;-) [1]
> 
> personally, the day london.pm becomes a private, invite only forum, i'll
> be off to london-public.pm's mailing list (this may make london.pm even 
> more popular for those sensitive to signal/noise) - as for google knowing 
> too much about you, welcome too 1984+17

I don't have a problem with it, apart from not knowing about it beforehand,
especially as mail-archive.com doesn't seem to reveal email addresses
but I think making the list "private" is a different argument from putting
up a web-accessible archive.

To make it harder for google to find you - change your name Prince style.

jp

Re: List Archive ( was SUBSCRIBE london-list archive@jab.org (fwd))

[James Powell]

Phew, just missed my 29th Sept post where I detailed my plans for
a perl script to overthrow the government.

jp

On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 12:01:21PM +, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
> For those that might be interested this was when mail-archive started
> archiving london-list.
> 
> /J\
> -- 
> Jonathan Stowe   |   
> http://www.gellyfish.com |   I'm with Grep on this one 
> http://www.tackleway.co.uk   |
> 
> -- Forwarded message --
> Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 07:11:22 -0400 (EDT)
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: SUBSCRIBE london-list archive@jab.org
> 
> --
> 
> archive@jab.org has been added to london-list.
> No action is required on your part.

Re: fspi

[James Powell]

On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 02:12:01PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> 
> i got a shiny copy of Dave's book in the post on saturday, very nice
> indeed
> 
> -- 
> Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net

Where did you get it from so quickly? Direct from Manning?


jp

Re: .emacs

[James Powell]

On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 09:55:58AM +, Dominic Mitchell wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 08:13:11PM +, Mark Fowler wrote:
> > Robin said:
> > > On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 07:53:00PM +, Mark Fowler wrote:
> > > >  2) Got any nice bits of your .emacs file to share?
> > > 
> > > Hmm, well this:
> > > 
> > > (add-hook 'ange-ftp-process-startup-hook
> > >   '(lambda ()
> > >  (ange-ftp-raw-send-cmd proc "passive on")))
> > > 
> > > enables ange-ftp mode to work from inside our firewall.
> > > Not very exciting unless you have the same problem...
> 
> I can't get this to work.  At least not with efs under xemacs.  It just
> hangs after issuing the command.  Unfortunately, my elisp debugging
> skills aren't up to sorting it out.  :-(
> 
> -Dom

You'll be wanting

;; efs passive FTP mode as behind firewall
(setq efs-use-passive-mode t)

If you want to send some passwords in plaintext then ;)


jp (who has trouble getting OpenSSH's scp to work)

Re: TT vs EmbPerl (was Re: Fwd: [mengerin@deja.com: [?] Template Toolkit])

[James Powell]

On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 10:33:30AM +, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
> On 30 Jan 2001, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
> >
> > Add to that, generating mails to Nominet and Network (ack!) Solutions,
> 
> Which is exactly what I was using it for yesterday :)  Well except not
> Netowrk Solutions as we are using another registrar ...
> 

Interestingly .tv use gpg-signed messages sent over https...
for all aspects of registration.

They supply (slightly dodgy) perl modules as well.


jp

Re: Perl Books

[James Powell]

On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 11:39:24AM +, Robin Szemeti wrote:
> [big snip]
> 
> no .. its not (for want of a better word) rocket science, but to do it
> correctly does require a broad range of knowledge about several different
> systems and really what Ms Castro attempts to do is give a bit of all of
> that to a readership that simply wants to bang something into their
> homepage and for it to work.  I agree that the documenttion was not
> 'good' by professional standards but it was a book for non-programmers. 
> a sort of paperback intro to half of what they needed to know. I have
> issues with how shes goes about it (like CGI.pm would have made life soo
> much easier ) and some of the perl is awful, but I beleive that
> readership it was aimed at would have gone all glassy eyed and fallen
> over backwards at the word 'subroutine' and run off screaming if you said
> 'regex'...


AHH! REGEX! (runs away)


(sorry)


Totally unrelated, I wish they'd open a PC Bookshop in Farringdon.

jp

Re: Perl Books

[James Powell]

Those 15 minutes (each way, probably about 20 from where I am) 
come out of my pay packet! And it doesn't stay open late enough
in the evening.

I've been spoilt, I used to work at Tower 42 (was natwest tower)
and the city branch was a well lobbed copy of an o'reilly book
(preferably mysql & msql) away.

I can also recommend the bar in Tower 42 as a place to take
friends to impress them (well, apart the snooty bar staff and
average cocktails).

jp

On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 12:36:53PM -, Robert Shiels wrote:
> 
> From: "James Powell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 
> > 
> > Totally unrelated, I wish they'd open a PC Bookshop in Farringdon.
> > 
> Don't be so lazy :)
> 
> You can walk to Holborn in under 15 minutes.
> 
> /Robert

Re: Amazon Sales Rank

[James Powell]

On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 01:42:24PM +, Roger Burton West wrote:
> On or about Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 01:39:08PM +, Michael Stevens typed:
> 
> >Now if they'd just actually send me the copy I ordered...
> >(I think they said 3-5 weeks)
> 
> Ditto. It's one of the 9 things remaining before they ship my latest
> order.
> 
> Roger

WHSmith's www.bookshop.co.uk is good for this as they are incapable
of storing orders so have to send each book when they get it (so you
can end up with deliveries on subsequent days).

They're also pretty competitive with Amazon.


jp

Re: Bad programming considered harmless

[James Powell]

On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 06:56:02PM +0100, Philip Newton wrote:
> Michael Stevens wrote:
> > (pedantry: There *are* applications where bad programming 
> > could kill. I don't think any of us work in them, but I'm
> > pretty sure they exist.)
> 
> Look at what Sun says Java is not suitable for to get a short list. IIRC
> they included stuff such as life support machinery in hospitals, air traffic
> control, and nuclear reactors. Space Shuttle or manned-space-flight rocket
> control logic probably should also be bug free.

Perhaps this is why there isn't "Nuclear Reactor Control: Visual Quickstart
Guide".

A gap in the market?


jp

Re: NY invasion, was Re: Conway Hall

[James Powell]

On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 08:48:36AM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> * Mike Jarvis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > Piers Cawley wrote:
> > 
> >  [snip]
> 
> but american hotels are so much better ... they have those giant 3-person
> size beds, almost all of them have minibars, decent showers and the staff
> give something those strange american chappies call ``customer service'',
> that would never catch on in the uk, oh no - we like to be treated like
> shit and squeezed into a single bed, needing to get up at some ridiculous
> time in the middle of the night just to guarantee warm water for the
> shower
> 

If you want excellent customer service, I can really, really recommend
the Mandarin Oriental in Hong Kong. Not very handy for Manhattan though
(although I see they have one opening in 2003).


jp

Re: In defence of Perl

[James Powell]

On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 12:16:57PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
[snip]
> > >
> > As one of the requirements listed was content management you can 
> > through in the BBC, especially the interactive telly division. Heck, 
> > they even gave a presentation at YAPC::Europe.
> > 
> 
> they even won a BAFTA for some of the stuff they (we) did with perl
> 
> http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net/pics/greg_bafta_bw.jpeg

You've just photoshopped a BAFTA on to a picture of meatloaf
receiving his lifetime achievement award at the VH-1 music awards!


jp

GnuPG::Interface & CGI

[James Powell]

GnuPG::Interface seems to screw with CGI.pm, as it
grabs stdin & stdout through GnuPG::Handles.

You end up getting repeated output in the browser.

I don't suppose anyone else has combined the two,
and even better come up with a solution?


jp

ps - these t-shirt suggestions are reminding me of harry enfield
 loadsamoney "shut your mouth and look at my wad" 80s shirts!

Re: Fwd: MacWorld Tokyo Keynote Report

[James Powell]

G4 "tit" Powerbook?

[insert joke]

On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 11:18:10AM +, Neil Ford wrote:
> For anyone interested.
> 
> Neil
> 
> 
> >Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 02:48:59 +
> >To: lmug-talk-yahoogroups.com
> >From: Neil Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Tokyo Keynote Report
> >Cc:
> >Bcc:
> >X-Attachments:
> >

[snip]

> >finder toolbar is customizable
> >Pre-load will begin July when a larger number of apps are available
> >
> >G4 Tit Powerbook
> >Final Cut Pro runs 60% faster than on the G3 powerbook
> >compared it to the Sony Vaio Z505VR/K
> >

good job there weren't any "base belongs to us" t-shirts printed

[James Powell]

Might have ended up like the last programme here

(not for the easily offended)

http://www.tvgohome.com/

Re: Ruby

[James Powell]

On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 02:56:28PM +, Rob Partington wrote:
> In message ,
> "Jonathan Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Hey,
> 
> Dude.
> 
> > The language Ruby looks really cool. Can anyone tell me:
> 
> It is really cool.  
> 
> > 1. Why on earth you'd use Python instead of Ruby.
> 
> I wouldn't any more.  The only reasons I used Python were sensible
> OO and the XML parsing was less painful than XML::Parser at the time.
> Now I get my OO from Ruby, and my sensible XML parsing from XML::DOM
> or XML::XPath.
> 
> > 2. If anyone here has used it for production code and knows more about it.
> 
> Yes, I use it, and I know a bit about it.  It's fun.

Can you give us some more details, I'm interested too ;)

What's the performance like, library availability,
can you recommend any of the books on it etc etc?


jp

Re: Graphical Documentation

[James Powell]

On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 10:40:35AM +, Mark Fowler wrote:
> 
> Oh, there seems to be something odd with that server set up.  Because
> my copy of Gnome-Terminal does url catching I can Ctrl-Click on any url
> and it pops up in netscape.  However, being a good url catcher it matches
> the '.' at the end of the url (as it should do.)  Now this is really odd,
> as 'http://www.codewerk.com./' does not show the same thing as 
> 'http://www.codewerk.com/' (which it should do as
> 'www.codewerk.com.profero.com' or 'www.codewerk.com.loc0.profero.com'
> doesn't exist on our network.) This is most odd.  I've tried it from other
> locations (via the wonders of ssh tunnelling) and I get the same thing.
> 
> Mark.
> 

Is it running a lightweight apache reverse-proxy and backend mod_perl?
I believe that can do it.

jp

wasn't someone looking for some diagramming -> SQL stuff recently?

[James Powell]

http://freshmeat.net/projects/dia2sql/


jp

xemacs / cperl question

[James Powell]

Anyone know how to stop xemacs cperl-mode to stop knackering it's 
auto-tab indentation after you confuse it with a line like

my $dbh = ${$self->{params}->{dbh}};

(doesn't seem to like the curly braces).



jp

Re: Perl Training Courses

[James Powell]

On Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 04:31:06PM -, Matthew Jones wrote:
> > What do you need? If you can get three or four people interested in
> > doing the same course and can supply a suitable room, then Iterative
> > would be only too happy to help you out.
> 
> I'm interested if there are courses on offer. There's only so much you can
> do with just yourself and a pile of O'Reilly books.
> 

The mind boggles ;)


jp

Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-03-19

[James Powell]

On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 07:45:54PM +, Leon Brocard wrote:
> 
> And finally, it appears that Schwern, Michael is an Alien Drag Queen:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg03105.html
> http://us.imdb.com/Title?0103645
> 

Excellent, Trevor McDonald style "And finally" wrap-up to the news!


jp

ps - For an extra point, what show had an impression of Trevor McDonald
called "Trevor McDoughnut"?

Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-03-19

[James Powell]

On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 05:30:10AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
> At Fri, 23 Mar 2001 10:31:56 +, Simon Wilcox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > At 05:25 23/03/2001 -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
> > 
> > >For even more points: What was the first TV show the Lenny Henry
> > >appeared on?
> > 
> > Tiswas !
> 


-ka

Re: mmm ... toys ..

[James Powell]

On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 01:59:18AM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
> mmm .. 
> 
> by some dint of fate I appear to be the proud owner of a rather nice new
> Dell laptop.
> 
> Bit slow ( 850mhz P3 ) and 128 mb of ram is hardly enough to run Vi in is
> it ..  a poxy 32Gb hard disc means I'll probably run out of space soon
> too. (thinks .. this is considerably more powerful than my workstation ..
> h..)

Sounds acceptable to me, I'll have it if you don't want it.

Alternatively if anyone has one of the titanium macs going spare?

> all I need to do now is partition magic it and install Linux ... does
> anyone know if fips.exe can resize partitons without hoovering the lot ??
> or shuold I get partition magic anyway ?

I've found gnu parted to be good - should be able to get it on a linux
boot disk somewhere.


jp

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

[James Powell]

On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 08:30:41AM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote:
> Robin Szemeti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > 
> > well .. since in most web based uses of MySQL the 99% of queries are
> > simple 'select * from blah where something=something_else' .. the
> > speed is all you need .. every now and again there is reason to add
> > a user or, very occasionally, someone buys something .. and those
> > bits have the pseudo-transactions in .. yeah .. its slow, but I'd
> > ratehr have that bit slow and the rest lightning quick than pretyy
> > much anything else ..
> 
> But the *REALLY IMPORTANT* uses of the database are the ones where
> you're moving money about and doing order fulfillment. And guess what,
> those *must* be transactional.
> 

Course, mysql does support transactions now... I believe with two
different types of table for some reason.

Foreign keys and subselects still no...

When it supports full text indexing I'll get excited.

jp

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

[James Powell]

On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 09:59:35AM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 08:56:36AM +0100, James Powell wrote:
> > Course, mysql does support transactions now... I believe with two
> > different types of table for some reason.
> 
> It's because the underlying table type is implemented using Berkeley
> DB3, which does support transactions.  And that has several modes of
> operation, hash, btree and recno.
> 
> I haven't looked into it, but I would imagine that it makes transactions
> across different tables kind of tricky.  In fact, I'd class it as a bit
> of a hack.  But don't take my opinion for it, because this is all based
> on 2nd hand evidence.
> 
> -Dom

But as well as Berkeley there's innobase and gemini (not in yet?)
table types that support transactions.
http://www.mysql.com/documentation/mysql/bychapter/manual_Table_types.html

I can't say I've used any of them or would trust any of them...

And MySQL has got full-text indexing now - didn't notice that one

http://www.mysql.com/news/article-54.html
"MySQL 3.23 now has full-text indexing and searching capabilities. This
allows you to search your vast databases of
textual information, with queries returning search string
occurrence/relevance."


Incidentally, saw your ssh letter in the new LJ...

jp

from ntk

[James Powell]

RANDAL SCHWARTZ slams London.pm's "Perl is my bitch"
T-Shirt - odd, considering:
http://www.stonehenge.com/perl/amihooternot/ ... 


www.ntk.net


jp

going extreme

[James Powell]

http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-200-5424853.html?tag=lh

jp

Re: next social meeting vs tube strike

[James Powell]

On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 01:48:04PM +, Steve Mynott wrote:
> Struan Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Noticed on my way past the news stands last night that the next tube
> > strike is pencilled in for May the 3rd, as is the next social
> > meeting.  OK, so the strike might not happen but if it does is this 
> > not going to make the next social meeting a bit problematic?
> 
> why don't you have the social meeting a day earlier so that everyone
> can "work from home" with their hangovers the following day?
> 

like the quotes on "work from home" - one of the great euphemisms of our time.


jp

Re: MySQL -> Oracle wrapper/compat. libs

[James Powell]

On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 12:28:42PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 02:58:23AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote:
> > Here's a perl question (OK, not really).. Is anyone aware of a
> > compatibility/wrapper library which a developer could use to take an
> > app using the MySQL API and with some (ideally) minimal munging turn
> > it into Oracle OCI or Pro*C code?
> > 
> > I'm faced with converting a couple of apps that have MySQL support to
> > use OCI and it's, er, frightening to say the least (OCI manual is 1,054
> > PDF pages. It is in the best academic traditions for Intimidatingly
> > Enormous Tomes deemed an "introduction").
> 
> Don't forget that even if you could automatically change the API over,
> you'd still have to change all the SQL in the API as well.  Which is
> probably just as difficult a task, given how much SQL can vary from
> product to product...
> 
> -Dom

At least it's not as bad as Oracle -> MySQL (although that would be a
less likely scenario).

There was a link on mysql.com about mysql being added to the Oracle
migration kit that might be helpful (although probably not).

jp

Re: cocktails

[James Powell]

On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 12:42:40PM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote:
> Chris Heathcote wrote:
> 
> > Off the top of my head:
> > ICA bar, Match (Noho/Farringdon/Sosho), lab (on Old Compton St.), aka...
> > also heard about Smiths of Smithfield, but never been there.
> 
> 
> Smiths isn't really a cocktail bar IIRC. 

Cocktails on the first floor there aren't bad.

If you like an impressive view but condescending service,
try Bar 24 in Tower 42 (ie Natwest).

Otherwise I go with the Match recommendation.

jp

Re: cocktails

[James Powell]

On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 10:34:55AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> * Simon Wistow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > 
> > And they didn't eat as many waffles as we did.
> 
> ahhh waffles, a classic student food - what did you eat your waffles
> with? i ate mine with mayo and chick sticks (fish finger like bits
> processed chicken)

The chicken that is not fit for human consumption?

mm.

Gotta be Waffles with Heinz Beans & Sausages (although I draw the
line at the "all day breakfast" or "full monty" meals in a can).

jp

Re: Bah!

[James Powell]

On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 10:22:07AM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote:
> On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 10:54:04AM +0200, Philip Newton wrote:
> > David Cantrell wrote:
> > > http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/cv
> > 
> > I was going to post "I can't open that in Microsoft Word; please re-send it"
> > as a joke, but when I tried to open the PDF version using the Acrobat
> > plug-in in Netscape, I got "an internal error occurred" and some of the
> > letters were missing.
> 
> There were some letters missing for me too under Linux.  Probably just
> bad fonts under X11, gee what a surprise.
> 
> -Dom

Looked fine to me.

My aren't we all nosy ;)


jp

like a phoenix from the flames

[James Powell]

The Perl Journal arrived this morning...


jp

Re: BOFHs requiring license

[James Powell]

On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 10:23:50AM +0100, Robert Shiels wrote:
> 
> "If a man is not a socialist by the time he is twenty, he has no heart.
> If he is not a conservative by the time he is 40, he has no brain."
> -Winston Churchill
> 
> discuss:-)
> 

How does that explain Garry Bushell and Jim Davidson ;)


jp

Re: Politics (was RE: BOFHs requiring license)

[James Powell]

On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 11:17:51AM +0100, Roger Burton West wrote:
> On or about Mon, May 14, 2001 at 11:04:52AM +0100, Matthew Jones typed:
> 
> >> When have they ever been asked?
> >During elections. Like I say, in 1997, the UK voted in a party that was (I
> >reckon) seen as the guardian of the public services, the party that is
> >traditionally associated
> 
> In 1997 the UK voted against the Conservatives. The policies being offered
> by the parties were close to identical.
> 
> >> Money isn't enough. America spends more on education per 
> >> pupil than anywhere else in the world - think that works?
> >Yeah, but doesn't most of that go on flak jackets for the teachers? Heh,
> >seriously, though, money may not be enough, but that doesn't translate to
> >"the education system doesn't need any more money".
> 
> How about stopping and thinking about it _before_ throwing money at it
> just for a change, then?
> 
> >> Government-run projects don't work, even when they're heavily funded.
> >That's an awfully sweeping statement to make.
> 
> Yes.
> 
> Governments never get value for money on anything they do. Discuss.
> 
> R

They certainly didn't get good value for money on the Immigration cock up,
handed out to EDS (or was it Perot) and then Siemens (with an army of 
contractors in tow).

Failures all down the line there, from the very juicy insider gossip I was
told.

jp

Re: Enough!

[James Powell]

On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 11:49:18AM +0100, Martin Ling wrote:
> On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 11:33:07AM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote:
> > 
> > On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 10:10:23AM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
> > > we are considering funding the development of a procmail-a-like for
> > > snail-mail.
> > 
> > I want a procphone.
> 
> Now that's reasonably feasible. Tap the incoming audio signal and feed
> it to Viavoice + Perl. Have the phone be automatically answered with a
> recording of your own voice saying 'Hello?'. Feed the conversation out
> to speakers for your interception and amusement - if you want to take
> the call, just pick up - otherwise, the script will listen for key
> phrases in the incoming response ('double glazing', 'market research',
> etc, etc...) and immediately on recieving one deliver a pre-recorded
> appropriate rant before hanging up. With a little more advancement, it
> could be got to respond to some simple fore-spam ('Can I speak to ...' /
> 'speaking', etc).
> 
> Hmm. I like it, wonder if the software's up to it though.

Heh, don't forget to have a RBL-like list of source telephone numbers.
And if it's withheld, answer with a terse message and disconnect.

My girlfriend got her first SMS spam the other week... all it said
was "call this number 2320340 324 CompName EX7 TL7" (or similar).

jp

Re: Enough!

[James Powell]

On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 12:15:32PM +0100, Martin Ling wrote:
> On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 12:04:24PM +0100, James Powell wrote:
> > 
> > Heh, don't forget to have a RBL-like list of source telephone numbers.
> 
> Definitely. A whitelist too, of course.
> 
> > And if it's withheld, answer with a terse message and disconnect.
> 
> No; many people withhold automatically, it a legitimate privacy concern. 
> 

That's what the terse message is for ("reveal yourself, or bugger off").
I suppose it could go to answerphone.



jp

Re: A look over the shoulder of an XP programmer (auf deutsch)

[James Powell]

On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 02:27:19PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote:
> On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 02:08:40PM +0100, Robert Thompson wrote:
> > Having two people look at/develop a piece of code is better than one.
> > Therefore having three people must be even better.
> > But why stop there - why not four, five, six . . .
> > Better yet - design/develop by committee!
> 
> You've hit the fundamental problem with XP. Getting anything done requires
> two programmers to agree on something; this, as everyone knows, is impossible.

No it isn't!


(sorry)


jp

Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

[James Powell]

On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 12:00:38AM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote:
> Neil Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Just picked up the latest FHM to check out the above mentioned list...
> > 
> > The interesting bits are as follows;
> 
> The really interesting bit was Mr Ford dancing around in his living
> room crowing because Sara Cox had read his name out on the radio. 
> 

Ahh Sara Cox - as deserving of her position in the FHM top 100 women
as she is of her £750K out of the license fee for two years blathering.


jp

Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

[James Powell]

On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 05:26:51PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote:
> At 10:52 20/05/2001, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
> >On Sun, 20 May 2001, Dave Cross wrote:
> >
> > > I'm sure I'm really in the minority here, but I can't be the only one who
> > > finds all this discussion of the FHM list distasteful. I've never really
> > > understood why intelligent men find it acceptable to objectify women in
> > > this way.
> >
> >Although of course everyone objects most vociferously when Cosmo or some
> >similar magazines produce a list of 'The Worlds Sexiest Men'. :)
> 
> "Ooh, look! Look! They're doing it to. Therefore it _must_ be alright!"
> 
> Personally I find it just as objectionable, but funnily enough you don't it 
> anywhere near as much.
> 

So you don't fancy organizing a LPM Top 100 (well, maybe 25) then?


jp (who confesses he has bought FHM in the past, but not for at least
3 years, when it was highbrow ;) )

Re: (Chief) Wizard for hire...

[James Powell]

You've got a link to 127.0.0.1 on your CV page (sorry, I'm nosy).

Also, I see you've worked with the devil known as Illustra!

Me too, condolences!


jp

On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 03:26:57PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
> 
> All the current projects are done and dusted and the T-shirts are at
> the printers (really!). I'm looking for the next round of excellent
> clients to work with.
> 
> Take a look at my site at http://www.hodgkinson.org/ to see what I'm
> up to.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dave
> 
> -- 
> Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org
> Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star   http://www.deep-purple.com
> Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
>  

Re: (Chief) Wizard for hire...

[James Powell]

On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 07:39:33PM +0100, Peter Haworth wrote:
> On Tue, 29 May 2001 15:43:49 +0100, James Powell wrote:
> > Also, I see you've worked with the devil known as Illustra!
> > 
> > Me too, condolences!
> 
> Me too. I even wrote DBD::Illustra for it, although by the time I got permission to 
>release it, no one else in the World appeared to want it.

Ooh that would have been very useful for me at one time.

"Illustra - Nice ideas, shame about the locking approach
(and lack of outer joins, etc etc)!"

> 
> -- 
>   Peter Haworth   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "Remember: Perl abhors a naked circularity"
>   -- Tom Christiansen

Re: SQL statements to DB Schema (dia ?)

[James Powell]

I believe Visio will do this with an ODBC link to mysql...

But of course it costs...

On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 06:32:52AM +, Greg Cope wrote:
> Dear All
> 
> This is not perl related, but I hope to tap your collective knowledge.
> 
> I'm involved with taking on a project started (and nearly finished) by
> an Agency writen mostly in PHP and Delphi. No statements that I'm
> already in trouble - thanks.
> 
> I have no DB schema, and as such could dump the SQL schema (via
> mysqldump) - and I was wondering if there was a super thing that could
> translate the create table stuff into a diagram I could print, and then
> look at  If this worked on Linux and involved perl and Dia then it
> would be fab.
> 
> Thanks for your time.
> 
> Greg
> 

Re: BUFFY - SPOILERS , DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN SKY 1 LAST NIGHT

[James Powell]

On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 08:19:56AM +0100, Dave Cross wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 07:47:00AM +0100, Greg McCarroll 
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> > will be back, my reasoning - they played the normal end of show credits/
> > theme tune, if they had of killed the character off, there would of been
> > a special ending. Mind you, when I explained this theory to the wife she
> > used the phrase ``clutching at straws''
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BAH!

Re: "Perl & CGI For The World Wide Web"

[James Powell]

On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 12:16:03PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote:
> Remember the discussion some months ago about what a horrible book this
> was?
> 
> Well, I've been exchanging emails with the author since slagging her off
> big-time on Amazon. Somehow I've managed to make her thing that my input
> is useful and I've just received a copy of the second edition of the book.
> 
[snip]
> 
> Dave...
> 
> p.s Oh, and the acknowledgements page lists "Dave Cross, who not only pointed
> out the problems, but also helped me solve them" :)

Could this be love? ;)


jp