Re: If anyone's awake.

2002-05-06 Thread Clive Hills

On Sun, 2002-05-05 at 23:40, Rafiq Ismail (ADMIN) wrote:
 
 does anyone know where I can grab a version of solaris 2.6
 
 The sunsite no longer offers pre-solaris 8 downloads.
 
 Anyideas?
 
 Got myself a sparc station 20.  Does anyone have suggestions/experiences
 with other os's?
 
 Cheers,
 
 fiq

An SS20 is a sun4m machine which is supported under Solaris 8 and even
the Solaris 9 beta programme so at the risk of being obvious why not
install Solaris 8?

Otherwise Debian/Linux, OpenBSD, or NetBSD would be the obvious
choices.

Regards
Clive
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Re: nms advocacy opportunity for me ;)

2002-05-06 Thread Newton, Philip

Newton, Philip wrote:
 I took the opportunity and suggested the look into replacing 
 their formmail script not with Matt's 1.92 but with the nms
 offering. Let's see whether anything will happen

Update: I got this short reply from the Form Mail Abuse Team:

 Thank you for the information.  We are checking out the possibility
 of using NMS.

So we'll see what happens.

Cheers,
Philip
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Re: If anyone's awake.

2002-05-06 Thread Chris Benson

On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 07:31:08AM +0100, Clive Hills wrote:
 
 Otherwise Debian/Linux, OpenBSD, or NetBSD would be the obvious
 choices.

If you want the kitchen sink, ftp.suse.com has Sparc iso images ...

-- 
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SparcOS's - WAS: If anyone's awake.

2002-05-06 Thread Rafiq Ismail (ADMIN)

Someone, now deleted, said:

 An SS20 is a sun4m machine which is supported under Solaris 8 and even
 the Solaris 9 beta programme so at the risk of being obvious why not
 install Solaris 8?

How would it fair though?  It's got a superSparc, 1Gb HD and 64Mb Ram.
Hardly an ultra, and the standard Solaris 8 Distro. is supposed to consume
about 2Gb.  I could trim it down though.  Is this really my best option
though?  Do I have enough memory to support it; since I'm only getting
binaries and probably won't be able to rebuild my kernel.

I've also had trouble with the cdimage that I burned of the solaris 8
install cd.  It gives me a File too short.  Boot file may not exist type
warning.  Is this at all familiar to you?

Cheers,

fiq






Re: SparcOS's - WAS: If anyone's awake.

2002-05-06 Thread Clive Hills

On Mon, 2002-05-06 at 11:08, Rafiq Ismail (ADMIN) wrote:
 How would it fair though?  It's got a superSparc, 1Gb HD and 64Mb Ram.
 Hardly an ultra, and the standard Solaris 8 Distro. is supposed to consume
 about 2Gb.  I could trim it down though.  Is this really my best option
 though?  Do I have enough memory to support it; since I'm only getting
 binaries and probably won't be able to rebuild my kernel.


I have two machines in the sun4m class here at home. 

One's a 40MHz SS10 and it quite happily runs Solaris 8 without X and
acts as a mail server - it has 128Mb of RAM. I would observe that it
took quite a while to install Solaris 8 and I did wonder if it wouldn't
be better off running Linux (but I didn't have an up to date Linux
distro).

The other one is a SS5 with a 170MHz Turbosparc CPU that runs Solaris 8
almost fast enough to make me think about using as a workstation to do
web browsing - it's not quite quick enough for that and could do with
more than 64Mb of RAM.

I'd guess that you'd be better off with Linux.
 
 I've also had trouble with the cdimage that I burned of the solaris 8
 install cd.  It gives me a File too short.  Boot file may not exist type
 warning.  Is this at all familiar to you?

That sounds like that CDROM is a coaster to me.

I've found downloading the images from Sun and writing them with
cdrecord on Linux works well for me.

Regards
Clive 

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Re: SparcOS's - WAS: If anyone's awake.

2002-05-06 Thread Rafiq Ismail (ADMIN)

 I've found downloading the images from Sun and writing them with
 cdrecord on Linux works well for me.

This is what I did.  I can mount it under linux, however when I do a
boot cdrom in openprom (?) it goes and flashes the drive light, but
after a short delay it spews out the errors about the boot file not
existing.

Is this at all familiar?

fiq








Re: SparcOS's - WAS: If anyone's awake.

2002-05-06 Thread Clive Hills

On Mon, 2002-05-06 at 12:45, Rafiq Ismail (ADMIN) wrote:
  I've found downloading the images from Sun and writing them with
  cdrecord on Linux works well for me.
 
 This is what I did.  I can mount it under linux, however when I do a
 boot cdrom in openprom (?) it goes and flashes the drive light, but
 after a short delay it spews out the errors about the boot file not
 existing.
 
 Is this at all familiar?

Is this a genuine Sun cdrom drive ? Older suns (including the SS20) can
only boot from cdroms that have the block size set to 512 bytes.(Most
cdroms can't be configured that way - the ones Sun use and a few others
can).

Regards
Clive

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Re: SparcOS's - WAS: If anyone's awake.

2002-05-06 Thread the hatter

On 6 May 2002, Clive Hills wrote:

 On Mon, 2002-05-06 at 11:08, Rafiq Ismail (ADMIN) wrote:
  How would it fair though?  It's got a superSparc, 1Gb HD and 64Mb Ram.
  Hardly an ultra, and the standard Solaris 8 Distro. is supposed to consume
  about 2Gb.  I could trim it down though.  Is this really my best option
  though?  Do I have enough memory to support it; since I'm only getting
  binaries and probably won't be able to rebuild my kernel.

 One's a 40MHz SS10 and it quite happily runs Solaris 8 without X and
 acts as a mail server - it has 128Mb of RAM.

I've got an SS20 with 196MB here that sems happy enough running X (though
it's not exactly eing stressed)  You can easily pick up cheap SCA disks
these days, mine's got an 18GB unit, uscrew the old one from the caddy,
put in te new one (or if you want the 1.8GB one that was  in there prior,
it's your)  The surplus of 9 and 18GB SCA seems to be down to all the old
raid systems that people are now upgrading to 36 or 78GB drives, for the
ovious reasons.

 I would observe that it took quite a while to install Solaris 8 and I
 did wonder if it wouldn't be better off running Linux (but I didn't have
 an up to date Linux distro).

It does take an age to install off CD, that's single speed cd roms for
you.  I too was rather worried about how fast it would run 8, when it wsa
taking so long to install, until I realised that.  If you happen to have
an external scsi cd drive lying around, it might be worth hooking it up
and booting from that, but I'm not spending money to upgrade mine, I doubt
it'll be used again.  You can pick up more memory for a handful of tenners
though, if you do want more - google will undoubtedly be able to help if
no one on-list has a prefered source.


the hatter





Querying Apache's configuration

2002-05-06 Thread Paul Makepeace

I'm wondering if anyone has done this before: some way or API for a
non-Apache process to find out about a server's configuration. For
example, all the virtual hosts being served, the ServerAdmin for a
particular served site, etc.

Right now I have a script which parses httpd.conf but this will break
down once I start using perl in my httpd.conf.

Two possible solutions might be putting some code in httpd.conf that
CStorable::stores the info that Apache/mod_perl expose which can then
be read like a registry, or perhaps expose that via a web service
(heavyweight).

Ideally what I'd like is a library that goes through the motions or can
somehow attach to Apache, perhaps through SHM?

Paul

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Re: Querying Apache's configuration

2002-05-06 Thread lpm

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm wondering if anyone has done this before: some way or API for a
 non-Apache process to find out about a server's configuration. For
 example, all the virtual hosts being served, the ServerAdmin for a
 particular served site, etc.

 Never done this, but is the -S option to httpd of any use to you?

 aef





Re: Querying Apache's configuration

2002-05-06 Thread Paul Makepeace

On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 07:40:07PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'm wondering if anyone has done this before: some way or API for a
  non-Apache process to find out about a server's configuration. For
  example, all the virtual hosts being served, the ServerAdmin for a
  particular served site, etc.
 
  Never done this, but is the -S option to httpd of any use to you?

All it does unfortunately is print out a list of virtualhosts but none
of the other information within each VirtualHost directive. If nothing
better comes along I'll see if there are hooks into this somehow.

Paul

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