Re: Perldoc, was Re: Tech meet, finalised.
Mark Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Though more often than not I find myself doing $ sudo emacs `perldoc -l Test::Builder::Tester` To load it up in emacs or suchlike. (This is another reason not to run always as root...perldoc will barf if you run it as root, but doing it with sudo the `` doesn't have root privlidiges at this point.) or use perldoc -U -- Steve Mynott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Camel update
From: Simon Wilcox [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 7/3/02 3:37:49 PM People may recall that when we went to the zoo last year the camels didn't look very happy. Well I went to the zoo a couple of weeks ago and I am pleased to report that they seem much happier now. Following the move of the elephants to Whipsnade, the camels have been moved into the old elephant house and the extra space seems to be agreeing with them. Did you see the sponsors plaque? Does it have our name on it? All of which reminds me. I assume that when we re-sponsoered the camel last year we got another load of free tickets. If this is true (Robert?) shall we have another trip this year. And also a reminder that our sponsorship runs out on August 6th (the 4th anniversary of our first meeting). Given that we haven't yet raised enough money to repay Robert for paying for it last year, I'm guessing that we probably don't want to do it again this year. But I may, of course, be wrong in that. What do you think? Dave... -- http://www.dave.org.uk Let me see you make decisions, without your television - Depeche Mode (Stripped)
Re: Camel update
On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Dave Cross wrote: And also a reminder that our sponsorship runs out on August 6th (the 4th anniversary of our first meeting). Given that we haven't yet raised enough money to repay Robert for paying for it last year, I'm guessing that we probably don't want to do it again this year. But I may, of course, be wrong in that. What do you think? That's been an issue of much debate around the table at the pub of late. I don't think we came to any conclusions, apart from that there were many things we could sponsor: a) The Camel b) YAS c) Some other donation (e.g. paying to send someone to a conference, work full time for a month on software, etc. etc.) And that maybe we shouldn't commit funds before we've collected them. Mark. -- s'' Mark Fowler London.pm Bath.pm http://www.twoshortplanks.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ';use Term'Cap;$t=Tgetent Term'Cap{};print$t-Tputs(cl);for$w(split/ +/ ){for(0..30){$|=print$t-Tgoto(cm,$_,$y). $w;select$k,$k,$k,.03}$y+=2}
Re: Camel update
* Mark Fowler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: a) The Camel b) YAS c) Some other donation (e.g. paying to send someone to a conference, work full time for a month on software, etc. etc.) And that maybe we shouldn't commit funds before we've collected them. *nod*, and of course repaid Robert. Greg -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.org.uk/~gem/ jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] msn:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Camel update
From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 7/3/02 4:08:12 PM * Mark Fowler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: And that maybe we shouldn't commit funds before we've collected them. *nod*, and of course repaid Robert. *cough*, and anyone else that we might owe money too :) Dave.. -- http://www.dave.org.uk Let me see you make decisions, without your television - Depeche Mode (Stripped)
Re: Camel update
On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 09:18:37AM -0700, Dave Cross said: *cough*, and anyone else that we might owe money too :) *cough* yes
Re: Camel update
From: Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 7/3/02 4:28:08 PM On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 09:18:37AM -0700, Dave Cross said: *cough*, and anyone else that we might owe money too :) *cough* yes Which reminds me. At some point in the next copule of weeks, someone needs to give me a pile of t-shirts to take to San Diego and we need to agree a price in USD. Dave... -- http://www.dave.org.uk Let me see you make decisions, without your television - Depeche Mode (Stripped)
Re: Camel update
On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Simon Wistow wrote: On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 09:18:37AM -0700, Dave Cross said: *cough*, and anyone else that we might owe money too :) *cough* yes Which brings us nicely onto the issue of tshirt sales. What's happening with that? -- s'' Mark Fowler London.pm Bath.pm http://www.twoshortplanks.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ';use Term'Cap;$t=Tgetent Term'Cap{};print$t-Tputs(cl);for$w(split/ +/ ){for(0..30){$|=print$t-Tgoto(cm,$_,$y). $w;select$k,$k,$k,.03}$y+=2}
webmasterworld - conference
Hi, This guy wondered if I would be interested in going to this Conference in the CoY!! - They borrowed our directions (they were kind enough to actually ask!) and have put a link back to us. I said I'd forward this on as I won't be able to make it but an afternoon or two in a pub talking web tech (though it sounds sort of general) might take some people's fancy. It's £45, they say that's just covering costs so I don't know what it entails. Anyway, Laters Leo On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 11:09:28AM -0500, Brett Tabke wrote: PubConference 2 Internet Webmaster and Marketing Conference. Hosted by members of WebmasterWorld. Saturday Oct 12, 2002, 1pm to whenever. Cittie of Yorke Pub in downtown London England. Open bar. Round tables on various webmaster topics (mostly marketing and search engine promotion). We expect 200+ total from all over the world. About a dozen medium to hardcore Perl pros will be there (come and recruit). 45 pounds to cover our expenses (it's a not-for-profit thing). Guests: Danny Sullivan of SearchEngineWatch, Per Koch of Pandia Post. Sponsors: 6 of the major search engines will be there with reps and tech folk. http://www.webmasterworld.com/conference/
Re: Camel update
From: Mark Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 7/3/02 5:34:21 PM Which brings us nicely onto the issue of tshirt sales. What's happening with that? I'm pimping like buggery on #perl as we speak :) Dave... -- http://www.dave.org.uk Let me see you make decisions, without your television - Depeche Mode (Stripped)
Re: Camel update
* Mark Fowler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Simon Wistow wrote: On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 09:18:37AM -0700, Dave Cross said: *cough*, and anyone else that we might owe money too :) *cough* yes Which brings us nicely onto the issue of tshirt sales. What's happening with that? well how many are left? do we need as a group to put on our collective marketting hats and make an effort to flog them? I note Dave did stirling work this very afternoon trying to flog some on #perl. Greg -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.org.uk/~gem/ jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] msn:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: webmasterworld - conference
* Leo Lapworth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: PubConference this is an interesting idea if we did it for perl, a one day perl conference in a pub. just one track, and a fairly social atmosphere - this might be a good medium for the people who have in the past suggested mini-YAPC's We expect 200+ total from all over the world. About a dozen medium to hardcore Perl pros will be there (come and recruit). 45 pounds to cover our expenses (it's a not-for-profit thing). *mutter* you should be having wine and salmon for that price, *mutter* -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.org.uk/~gem/ jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] msn:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
London.pm List Weekly Summary 2002-06-24
This is the (mumble+6)th summary of the London Perlmongers mailing list for the week beginning 2002-06-24, covering 84 messages in 16 threads. First up, that real life meeting thing. There's a social meet tonight (Thursday) at the Cittie of York in Holborn, and as well as that the tech meet is finalised! It's to be held at Fotango on Thursday 18th July, and you can see more details at Paul Mison's -announce post or the london.pm.org meetings page. We're still after a projector, so please come forward if you can provide one for the night. http://london.pm.org/pipermail/london.pm-announce/2002-July/11.html http://london.pm.org/meetings/ Simon Wistow posted to point out that the list has over 300 members, some of whom are from 'big-name' companies like the BBC/EMI/Motorola; He asked for examples of how Perl is used at these companies. Alex McLintock pointed us at his list of companies who support or need support for open source software. http://london.pm.org/pipermail/london.pm/Week-of-Mon-20020624/020739.html http://www.owal.co.uk/oss_support/ Mark Fowler asked for the best way to create a hash value of a data structure, so he can write them to disk. He pointed out flaws in using Data::Dumper or Storable for this, and Andrew suggested Data::Denter. Nick Clark pointed out that md5sum'd Data::Dumper output could change along with versions of perl. The thread moved on to talk about tied hashes, Memoize and Cache::Cache. http://london.pm.org/pipermail/london.pm/Week-of-Mon-20020624/020757.html http://london.pm.org/pipermail/london.pm/Week-of-Mon-20020624/020759.html http://london.pm.org/pipermail/london.pm/Week-of-Mon-20020624/020765.html Alex McLintock alerted the list to the recent OpenSSH vulnerabilities. Upgrade to 3.4 if you haven't already! http://london.pm.org/pipermail/london.pm/Week-of-Mon-20020624/020781.html Nik Clayton asked for speakers for a UK FreeBSD event in London in August. He also asked for any ideas on how to encourage particpation. http://listserver.uk.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-users/2002-June/006019.html .. and that looks like it. Apologies for the delay on this summary, I've just started a new job. Until next week, - Chris. -- $a=printf.net; Chris Ball | chris@void.$a | www.$a | finger: chris@$a Blessings to the chap who invented ice cream, ginger-pop and the rest! I'd rather invent things like that any day than rockets and bombs. -- Julian, Five on Finniston Farm
Re: Camel update
On 03/07/02 20:26 +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: well how many are left? do we need as a group to put on our collective marketting hats and make an effort to flog them? I note Dave did stirling work this very afternoon trying to flog some on #perl. Ummm... there are three pretty full boxes sitting in the corner of my room, where they've been ever since we moved into this house :) So, um, if we'd been organised, I would have brought some to the social meet tomorrow, but given that we've done that before and failed to get rid of them... I'm sure one of us from round here (me, blech, muttley predominantly) can bring t-shirts to any london.pm events if given a bit of warning. To do my bit for sales, they really are very nice t-shirts. Good quality, understated designs, they're wonderful. Now hurry up and fricking buy some so I can have my floorspace back :) -- Simon Batistoni Penseroso Ltd +44 20 7242 0570 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Camel update
* Simon Batistoni ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: To do my bit for sales, they really are very nice t-shirts. Good quality, understated designs, they're wonderful. are we going to try and sell them at YAPC::Europe? if not i'm happy to buy a set (XXL||XL) and auction them with proceeds going to wherever the funds go to at YAPC::Europe. alternatively, how many people have a complete set? if its sufficiently low, some big drunken irish fool might sponsor a one off limited edition (ebay rare stylee!) t-shirt (with something very special done to it) to give to all those who have a complete set. how does this sound? Greg -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.org.uk/~gem/ jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] msn:[EMAIL PROTECTED]