Re: perl bless/overload performance problem on RHEL
Elliot Moore wrote: http://blog.vipul.net/2008/08/24/redhat-perl-what-a-tragedy/ (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=379791) And here: http://use.perl.org/~nicholas/journal/37274 Which says: So to be fair they are still asleep on the job. Where's I'm awake and doing this stuff for free. That's the real tragedy IMHO. Some RedHat dude is getting paid to make a mess of Perl while Nicholas works for free to fix it. They should cut out the middle man. A
Re: [job advert] looking for a perl person to write a web control panel
Hi Martin, Martin A. Brooks wrote: We are looking for a Perl programmer to develop a customer-facing web control panel for our antispam and antivirus mail filtering service. Currently, all configuration is done via a combination of database (postgres) and flat text files. We would like to have a secure, intuitive and user-friendly interface built to manage this system for clients and in-house admin staff. Web design skills are _not_ required (have html monkey) though may be an advantage. Having a better than average knowledge of how email works is useful. Do you have a detailed spec and/or UI design completed or would this be part of the work you want doing ? S.
Re: perl bless/overload performance problem on RHEL
On Mon, Sep 01, 2008 at 07:52:51AM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: Elliot Moore wrote: May interest anyone running stock perl on Red Hat 5, Centos 5, or Fedora 9 http://blog.vipul.net/2008/08/24/redhat-perl-what-a-tragedy/ (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=379791) AIUI, the problem is with their builds of 5.8.8 - which is in current versions of RHEL and Centos. And was in Fedora 8. Fedora 9 contains a build of 5.10.0 which doesn't seem to exhibit this problem. No, the code is different. Full explanation here: http://use.perl.org/~nicholas/journal/37274 Wishful thinking fix suggestion here: http://use.perl.org/~nicholas/journal/37278 Slashdot covers it here: http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/08/29/1423201 What RedHat did, and why - your guess is as good as mine. But anyone commenting about the source, cause, or intent of code changes to the Perl core itself that is in disagreement with what I typed in http://use.perl.org/~nicholas/journal/37274 is wrong. I wrote *all* the code in question. I should know. (Both the code in the trunk (that became 5.10.0) and the code in the 5.8.x. The code that is now in 5.10 is different, and is the conceptually correct fix to the underlying problem. It can be different, because it involves an incompatible change in the semantics of SV flag bits. It doesn't actually involve changing the values of flag bits, so at first glance it doesn't look binary incompatible. I don't have access to anything running Fedora 9 (or Fedora anything else) but my understanding is that they have a very clean build of 5.10.0, so it follows that it cannot have this problem.) Nicholas Clark
Re: [job advert] looking for a perl person to write a web control panel
Simon Wilcox wrote: Do you have a detailed spec and/or UI design completed or would this be part of the work you want doing ? I have a reasonable story-board for how I would want the panel to work, it's not entirely complete. The UI design work will be done as templates by the aforementioned html monkey. -- Martin A. Brooks | http://www.antibodymx.net/ | Anti-spam anti-virus Consultant| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | filtering. Inoculate antibodymx.net | m: +447792493388 | your mail system.
Re: [job advert] looking for a perl person to write a web control panel
Hi Martin, Thank you for using Perl - and thank you for offering people the chance to work on your project. I hope you are successful in finding someone. Leo
Re: perl bless/overload performance problem on RHEL
On this subject, does anyone have access to the RHEL hotfix for this - ideally the SRPM. I'd like to be able to check through what they are doing and test the result. Currently theres a fix distributed to customers who shout for it, but not visible to the outside (unless there is a secret place I'm unaware of for finding it). The supposedly fixed rpm has version/release 5.8.8-15.el5_2.1 Nigel. -- [ Nigel Metheringham [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ - Comments in this message are my own and not ITO opinion/policy - ]
Re: [job advert] looking for a perl person to write a web control panel
Greg McCarroll wrote: I personally reckon he'll get a taker, and I'm not sure either of them will be fully satisfied, but thats ok. And of course you can always suggest to Martin you'll do it for more as a counter offer. What's maybe more interesting is the value/cost people put on fixed term work vs. contracting and of course the value people put on a really good job (and what that means) and a shoddy job And also the question of the degree to which technical acumen correlates with business acumen - and the client's ability to assess both. First contract I ever took - the agency got 30% of what I got - because I didn't know enough to know to ask or what was reasonable. And I got off relatively lightly. I met another contractor who's agent took 100%. He quit the day he found out and they were pretty much whatever in their attitude. I have a rule about never taking fixed price contracts on unless the spec is pretty much nailed. Rumour is Ross Perot made his billions on change requests... Chris _ Make a mini you and download it into Windows Live Messenger http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354029/direct/01/
Re: [job advert] looking for a perl person to write a web control panel
Chris Jack wrote: Rumour is Ross Perot made his billions on change requests... I love that clown act he does. A
Re: [job advert] looking for a perl person to write a web control panel
Leo Lapworth wrote: Hi Martin, Thank you for using Perl - and thank you for offering people the chance to work on your project. I hope you are successful in finding someone. You must be new here :) I have spoken today with an LPMer who's interested in taking on the work. His assessment of the sort of time required having seen that spec (hey, fancy that! looking at the spec before deciding whether or not someone's requesting skewered horse for dinner) agrees roughly with mine. I'm hoping it'll be a mutually beneficial project. -- Martin A. Brooks | http://www.antibodymx.net/ | Anti-spam anti-virus Consultant| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | filtering. Inoculate antibodymx.net | m: +447792493388 | your mail system.
