Re: Anyone for a pub meet? South of the Thames?
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 09:16:07PM +, David Cantrell wrote: On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 08:42:03PM +, Phil Pereira wrote: David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Slightly more seriously - how about the Dog n Bull on Surrey St? Just to confirm, this is the pub location: http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=pc=CR01RG Yup. I'm pre-booked for next Monday, however, Thursday (13th Feb) is good with me! Just say the time and I'll meet you there ... as well as anyone else who'd like to come :) 6pm onwards. So, is it just going to be the two of you? I may be able to make it - Croydon is a bit easier than London for me... -- Natalie S. Ford . [EMAIL PROTECTED] . http://www.natalie.ourshack.org
Re: [PUB] Rising Sun, Ebury Bridge Road, Victoria
On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 11:25:54AM +, Simon Wistow wrote: Downsides, I suspect, are that people may think it's too far to walk (being a whole 10 minutes from either Victoria or Sloane Square, although there are buses that run near) and the no vege pub food. I think that it sounds like an idea contender for the socials. It being near Victoria is an added bonus for me, becaus I would be able to stay later and still be able to get a train hime without paying for the Gatwick Express and for parking at Gatwick! ;-) -- Natalie S. Ford . [EMAIL PROTECTED] . http://www.natalie.ourshack.org
Re: YAPC::NA 2003
On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 01:49:36PM +, Mark Fowler wrote: [1] In particular, anyone else who can work out how to get there and back cheaply ;-) I won't be coming, but I have just seen an ad on sky for www.opodo.co.uk and wondered if it might be a useful site... -- Natalie S. Ford . [EMAIL PROTECTED] . http://www.natalie.ourshack.org
Re: [OT] Oldest machine still running perl
On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 11:01:45PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: Hmm, the 486 was around 93/94 wasnt it? I had my first 486 when I started work in '90. It was a RM. -- Natalie S. Ford . [EMAIL PROTECTED] . http://www.natalie.ourshack.org
Re: pub, tonight
On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 08:08:13PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 06:21:36PM +, Greg McCarroll ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: If i recall correctly tonight on Sky is the episode where Willow spends 5 minutes on screen in the shower with the soap and loofah. Actually, she _did_ spend some time in the shower on BBC2 :) see, do i ever lie? Well, actually, Neil and I watched tonight (sky) and did not even see a hint of willow in a shower... -- Natalie S. Ford . [EMAIL PROTECTED] . http://www.natalie.ourshack.org
Re: [OT] Playstation2 as DVD Player
On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 11:51:02PM +, robin szemeti wrote: goodness ... so it looks like the DVD drive fitted to your multi-thousand pound laptop is of better quality than the one in the mass-market, cost cut to the bone, 200 quid PS2 how very odd :) um, i think it is the scart cable supplied with the ps2, not the drive - it is the same drive in the ps2 as is installed in many laptops. i am sure that muttley can explain further, but a scart cable upgrade should sort you out, dave. keep the one that came with the ps2 for games, though. ok, switching the cables might be a pain, but a scart cable (i can't remember the details of what you need to buy) is probably cheaper than a dvd player. alternatively, use your laptop as a dvd drive and plug it in to your tv? ;-) -- Natalie S. Ford . [EMAIL PROTECTED] . http://www.natalie.ourshack.org
Re: Sorry - this is just a test
On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 04:10:31PM +0100, Robin Berjon wrote: Yapc.org appears to be unreachable, but when it comes back the comments in the yapc europe page may give you an idea. http://www.yapc.org/Europe/2003/index.html works fine for me... -- Natalie S. Ford . [EMAIL PROTECTED] . http://www.natalie.ourshack.org
Re: Email full html with images
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 12:20:28AM +, Alex McLintock wrote: I can handle the sort of email where it says Someone has sent you an electronic card, you can view it at this URL. but what if I want to include the whole graphic in html email. Is there a standard CPAN module for that? (I can send attachments - but am not sure I understand how images are used in html email). HTML mail is bad and wrong, from what I remember of email standards. I know some MUA's can read and send HTML mail, but many cannot (mine for example) and many people automatically delete HTML mail - I even used to do that in Outlook which *could* do HTML mail because it was 99% spam. It would be better to send people a url to a web page, IMHO... -- Natalie S. Ford . [EMAIL PROTECTED] . http://www.natalie.ourshack.org
Re: Email full html with images
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 02:26:22PM +, Dominic Mitchell wrote: I don't see anything wrong with it, provided that you asked for it, and an alternative is readily available. Yeah, but I have never asked for it and it still arrives... ;-) -- Natalie S. Ford . [EMAIL PROTECTED] . http://www.natalie.ourshack.org
Re: Email full html with images
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 03:19:32PM +, Kate L Pugh wrote: On Thu 05 Dec 2002, Natalie S. Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know some MUA's can read and send HTML mail, but many cannot (mine for example) [...] You seem to be using mutt. Putting this in ~/.mailcap might help: text/html; lynx -force_html -dump %s|less Paul Makepeace posted a more involved solution a few months ago: http://london.pm.org/pipermail/london.pm/Week-of-Mon-20021014/014513.html OK. I stand corrected. It can. I still won't be reading HTML mails. Sorry if this is inconvenient to anyone, but I still feel that email should be text only... Just my 2 cents... -- Natalie S. Ford . [EMAIL PROTECTED] . http://www.natalie.ourshack.org
Re: Email full html with images
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 04:18:07PM +, Earle Martin wrote: That's the solution I currently use; however, it's not much use to the majority of people who - I reckon - don't read their mail in a terminal session It's only because I *do* read my mail this way that I can cope with unsolicited HTML mail, because I'm using dialup - I agree fully with Roger's earlier comment. If you want to do shiny graphical things, why not do them on the Web, where they're meant to be, rather than a kludgy hack like HTML mail that pisses a lot of people off? Also a swift Google finds me: http://www.cse.iitb.ernet.in/~sharat/misc/whyNotHTMLemail.html Yeah. I use mutt in screen on a colo box via isdn on my iBook in Terminal and so won't be looking at *anything* graphical in mutt and so I am happier copy and pasting a url to my iBook and viewing it in a browser there... -- Natalie S. Ford . [EMAIL PROTECTED] . http://www.natalie.ourshack.org
Re: Email full html with images
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 04:18:07PM +, Earle Martin wrote: http://www.cse.iitb.ernet.in/~sharat/misc/whyNotHTMLemail.html I agree and have bookmarked that for future reference... -- Natalie S. Ford . [EMAIL PROTECTED] . http://www.natalie.ourshack.org
Re: Email full html with images
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 08:30:56PM +, Natalie S. Ford wrote: On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 04:18:07PM +, Earle Martin wrote: http://www.cse.iitb.ernet.in/~sharat/misc/whyNotHTMLemail.html I agree and have bookmarked that for future reference... Another thought (and an apology for many small emails) is that HTML mail is MUCH harder to read if you are at all visually impaired (which I often am)... -- Natalie S. Ford . [EMAIL PROTECTED] . http://www.natalie.ourshack.org
Re: Email full html with images
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 09:15:55PM -, Robert Shiels wrote: Sometimes mistypings are very amusing...:) Yup! ;-) -- Natalie S. Ford . [EMAIL PROTECTED] . http://www.natalie.ourshack.org
Re: Film: LotR:TTT
On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 05:07:59PM +, David Cantrell wrote: Oh, and when I posted the above - I was kinda hoping people would mail me off-list with their preferred day. I did... ;-) /one_liner -- Natalie S. Ford . [EMAIL PROTECTED] . http://www.natalie.ourshack.org
Re: Hello London Perl-Mongers
On Sat, Nov 30, 2002 at 07:27:21PM +, Lucy McWilliam wrote: Middle-Earth Community College http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~lucifer/middle-earth.html ROFL! -- Natalie S. Ford . [EMAIL PROTECTED] . http://www.natalie.ourshack.org
Re: Candidates' attitudes
On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 12:10:43AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My final thought: can't someone just clone Dave (Cross) for the new leader? We did but Dave(2) isn't out of nappies yet. heh - people always forget that cloning involves birth and growing up... ;-) -- Natalie S. Ford . [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.natalie.ourshack.org .. http://natalief.livejournal.com
Re: Tech Meet Followup
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 12:53:37PM +, Mark Fowler wrote: They're all there, with the exception of Lucy's phyiscal props, which were a bit hard to digitise. disapointed Oh. Damn. Nobody took digi photos? Now I am doubly disapointed to have missed the tech meet... /disapointed -- Natalie S. Ford . [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.natalie.ourshack.org .. http://natalief.livejournal.com
Re: Book: Best of the Perl Journal
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 09:27:24AM +, Andy Wardley wrote: This sounds like the perfect opportunity to resurrect Surrey.pm. How about a meeting in Guildford one night next week or soon thereafter? Sounds good to me! Neil and I live in Sussex, but Guildford is only 30 mins away and MUCH easier to get to than London for .pm meets. Will it be hardcore perl or will non-perlies like myself be welcome? -- Natalie S. Ford . [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.natalie.ourshack.org .. http://natalief.livejournal.com
Re: Next Thursday; was: small hairy Belfast.pm geek...
On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 10:26:57AM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: I agree it's fine. However, it is a moderately long walk from the nearest underground station. (it's managed to pick a sweet spot (a bitter spot?) moderately equidistant from three underground stations, so it's certainly an above average distance) Also, I have been informed (by only one person) that it is a little disabled-unfriendly and so I have not been along to a meet since they started being held there. Kate has tried to find somewhere better (e.g. nearer to the tube station, loos on same floor as function room, etc.) but none so far... Also, if you say it is in a slightly dodgy area, I am even less inclined to try to come along... -- Natalie S. Ford . [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.natalie.ourshack.org .. http://natalief.livejournal.com
Re: Next Thursday; was: small hairy Belfast.pm geek...
On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 11:29:25AM +0100, Simon Batistoni wrote: On 18/10/02 10:46 +0100, Natalie S. Ford wrote: Also, if you say it is in a slightly dodgy area, I am even less inclined to try to come along... I have to take issue with this rubbish about it being a dodgy area (I know you're only repeating what other people have said, Nat). (snip) /me is relieved and apologises for a one-line reply, althought she is not sure what people have against one line replies - i need to reply but have little to say... ;-) -- Natalie S. Ford . [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.natalie.ourshack.org .. http://natalief.livejournal.com
Re: Next Thursday; was: small hairy Belfast.pm geek...
On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 11:30:55AM +0100, Marty Pauley wrote: OK, those are good features to add to my search criteria. Ah. kake already had them on her search criteia as pub search minion. Maybe the search criteria need to go on the website somewhere? Maybe they are already there? ;-) -- Natalie S. Ford . [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.natalie.ourshack.org .. http://natalief.livejournal.com
Re: Next Thursday; was: small hairy Belfast.pm geek...
On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 11:43:29AM +0100, Simon Batistoni wrote: (snipped criteria) I just had another thought - not only may these criteria be on the website, they are bound to be in the mailinglist archives somewhere, and that *is* linked from the website. Another criteria is that there be no background music, IIRC... -- Natalie S. Ford . [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.natalie.ourshack.org .. http://natalief.livejournal.com
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Emergency pubmeet, Wednesday 10 July, Calthorpe Arms, Holborn
On Fri, Jul 05, 2002 at 04:29:50PM +0100, Kate L Pugh wrote: around for us. So, the proposal is to visit it next Wednesday (10th July) and take a look. We'll be there from 6pm. We won't be able to make it after all, Kake. It is Neil's burfdee and we have changed plans afoot... ;-) I think you know my preferences pub wise, Kake - I trust your judgement ;-) -- Natalie S. Ford . [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.natalie.ourshack.org .. http://natalief.livejournal.com
Re: more mailman
On Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 06:22:50PM +0100, Paul Makepeace wrote: How do you see this working? Some people get munged, and others not? What happens when a person gets a non-munged reply-to, they reply to author instead? This then mandates a pile more rules for people who start getting spurious unfiltered replies in their inbox? Sounds annoying... Perhaps I'm missing some link here. Well, little me is subscribed to n mailing lists, both with mailman and majordomo. I notice no difference as a user, btw. My main 'problem' is that,for one of the mailman lists, mutt replies to the sender but for all others (london.pm included), mutt replies to the list. And I always fofget that when I reply to that one list. It would be really kewl if I could set all my mailman lists to reply-to-lists and then they could have the more standard reply-to-sender as default for those who do not override the default... I think that is what people are talking about - I may be wrong - that is what *this* user would like to be able to do with her mailman subscriptions... ;-) -- Natalie S. Ford . [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.natalie.ourshack.org .. http://natalief.livejournal.com
Re: Camel update
On Thu, Jul 04, 2002 at 11:15:24AM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 11:26:24PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: alternatively, how many people have a complete set? Meee!!! aolme 2/aol -- Natalie S. Ford . [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.natalie.ourshack.org .. http://natalief.livejournal.com
Re: Tech meet, finalised.
On Mon, Jul 01, 2002 at 02:21:54PM +0100, Andy Wardley wrote: This very morning, Glorious Ex-Leader Dave Cross .sigged: ...she opened strange doors that we'd never close again I misread that as: ...ssh opened strange doors that we'd never close again Still rather appropriate, I thought. ...and apt, considering our ssh woes... ;-) -- Natalie S. Ford ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.natalie.ourshack.org/ http://natalief.livejournal.com/
Re: irc #london.pm, or #london; #perl, ?
On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 12:49:10AM -0400, Yeoh Yiu wrote: *** london.pm No such channel You need the #. /join #london.pm (not /join london.pm) HTH ;-) -- Natalie S. Ford ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.natalie.ourshack.org/ http://natalief.livejournal.com/
Re: OpenSSH
On Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 08:47:01AM +, the hatter wrote: You mean there are still people using teraterm, rather than putty ? Yes, on the rare occasions that I use windows to ssh. Putty cannot print. -- Natalie S. Ford ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.natalie.ourshack.org/ http://natalief.livejournal.com/
Re: Pub: Pillers of Hercules
On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 10:12:58AM +0100, Alex McLintock wrote: I have been to this pub quite a lot. It usually fills up with cigarette smoke from all the booksellers who drink there. (There is usually a few Foyle's staff) Oh. Pity. That would rule it out for me, then. -- Natalie S. Ford ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.natalie.ourshack.org/ http://natalief.livejournal.com/
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Meetings in July
On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 03:50:33PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: Note to self: buy I plane NY t-shirt from freakfarm.com that made me ROFL ;) -- Natalie S. Ford ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.natalie.ourshack.org/ http://natalief.livejournal.com/
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Meetings in July
On Sat, Jun 22, 2002 at 03:33:58PM -0400, David H. Adler wrote: On Sat, Jun 22, 2002 at 10:45:39AM +0100, Natalie S. Ford wrote: On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 03:50:33PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: Note to self: buy I plane NY t-shirt from freakfarm.com that made me ROFL ;) Except that I couldn't see it there... :-( http://www.tshirthell.com/insensitive.htm it is the first on the right after the top design... -- Natalie S. Ford ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.natalie.ourshack.org/ http://natalief.livejournal.com/
[fwd] London technical meet, sometime late July/early August
It seems our technical meet format is liked! ;-) - Forwarded message from Nik Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 22:58:59 +0100 From: Nik Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: London technical meet, sometime late July/early August Hi all, It's high time we had another user group get together in London. So I'm organising one. I thought it might be worthwhile to do this a bit differently though, and try and get in a bit more technical content than we normally cover. This is (mostly) because I've been following the London Perl user group quite closely over the past few months, and seen how well this approach works for them. Once a month or so they have a technical meeting. The technical bit lasts for about two hours, then everyone decamps to the nearest pub to continue the discussions in a convivial atmosphere. Some of them have even be known to go for the odd curry or to. The technical bit is broken up in to 'n' presentations, where a presentation is anywhere from 5 to 40 minutes. I want to shamelessly steal this format. So I'm looking for volunteers to speak about something appropriate to the (Free)BSD and/or wider Unix community. This doesn't have to be hardcore Unix geek-ery. For example, if there's time to spare, I'd like to do 20-25 minutes about the current state of the art in fighting spam, since I've been doing rather a lot of that recently, and I suspect it's going to be of interest to a lot of you. But you can talk about anything you want. Perhaps you've discovered a really neat utility in the ports tree that's making your life much easier. Or maybe you've just successfully used FreeBSD in a large project, and want to talk about your experiences, and how it went. Maybe you've been successful in advocating FreeBSD (or the more general open source concept), and want to share insights you learned from that. Given that there are going to be a bunch (well, at least 1) of the FreeBSD committers in the audience, you could also talk about what you don't like about FreeBSD, or things that you think the FreeBSD development community misses that are important to the business-using world. I've increasingly discovered that things about FreeBSD that I don't give a second thought to can cause real problems for people trying to use FreeBSD, and it's important that this feedback reaches the development community somehow. And, of course, the second European BSD Conference is only a few months away. If you're speaking there, perhaps you'd like to get some public speaking practice in, and try out a draft of your talk before a live audience. If you don't want to talk, please feel free to suggest a topic you would like to see covered. That might give someone else the incentive they need to talk about it :-) The only thing we don't have yet is a venue and a date. I'm almost certain I've got the venue sorted (and hence the date) lined up, thanks to a very kind donation from a large FreeBSD-using design firm in central London -- but it's not confirmed yet, which is why I'm not announcing a date yet. However, I'm looking towards the end of July/beginning of August as about the time this'll happen. I expect to know about venue (and date) definitively by the end of next week, at which point I'll (assuming everyone thinks this is a good idea) send out an e-mail with more concrete details. However, on the off chance this falls through, perhaps you could make enquiries at your place of work and see if they have facilities to host this sort of meeting one evening. Even if I get the venue for this one, it'll be good to have other venues lined up for future meetings (assuming this is a success). The rough timetable will be: 6.30pm Begin arriving at venue. Coffee, tea, etc 7.00pm First presentation starts 9.00pm Last presentation ends. Decamp to pub/restaurant as necessary Comments? N -- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ (__) FreeBSD Documentation Projecthttp://www.freebsd.org/docproj/\\\'',) \/ \ ^ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- .\._/_) - End forwarded message - -- Natalie S. Ford ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.natalie.ourshack.org/ http://natalief.livejournal.com/
Re: [JOB] BBC perl developers
On Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 12:32:02PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: Or they need more people. I don't know which is the case here, and the job ad doesn't help me by saying which part of the BBC it's for. bbci? -- Natalie S. Ford ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.natalie.ourshack.org/ http://natalief.livejournal.com/
Re: look at his name
On Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 01:43:27PM +0100, Dennis Duncan wrote: apologies to anyone if this is you... http://www.novell.com/education/cde/features/randy.html I once had a team leader on a software project called Brian Buggy - his surname was an ongoing joke, poor bloke... -- Natalie S. Ford ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.natalie.ourshack.org/ http://natalief.livejournal.com/
Re: Photo album with wiki style comments
On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 04:35:27PM +0100, Alex McLintock wrote: If you want to add a comment to the page then hit the ADD A COMMENT HERE button on the bottom left. Weird. I can't see that link/button here. BTW, the comment I was going to add was that a number of the images need rotating 90deg anticlockwise... ;-) -- Natalie S. Ford ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.natalie.ourshack.org/ http://natalief.livejournal.com/
Re: Report on the Glasshouse Stores
On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 11:05:11PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote: Also something about a lack of girly drinks. What would you consider a girly drink? Baileys? Southern Comfort? From what I remember, the CoY did not do *real* southern comfort - only an inferior clone... -- Natalie S. Ford ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.natalie.ourshack.org/ http://natalief.livejournal.com/
Re: Report on the Glasshouse Stores
On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 02:26:15PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 12:43:33PM +0100, Kate L Pugh wrote: Beer: Jon noted that there were no hand-pulled beers. Boo. That makes it a non-pub, and I for one will not be going. ...and I bet he won't be the only one... -- Natalie S. Ford ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.natalie.ourshack.org/ http://natalief.livejournal.com/
Projection from an iPaq
I can't remember who wrote the email on the list about looking for a PDA that could be used to output to a VGA/SVGA OHP but I recieved an Inmac catalogue in the post today and spotted an iPaq Flyjacket (E403798) for 159.99 and wondered whether that might do the trick. I have not checked the price on the website (www.inmac.co.uk) because I am not interested in buying one myself, but I just thought I'd mention it. It says it can do VGA/Video output, video input, built in cf card slot and self sufficient battery power and actually says that: The Flyjacket is a mobile multimedia solution for your iPaq, giving you the ability to connect your iPaq to a projector or monitor for presentations or demonstrations (remote control included). Additionally you can grab video, video conference with the optional camera or even use video email! HTH -- Natalie S. Ford ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.natalie.ourshack.org/ http://natalief.livejournal.com/
