Re: [Fwd: Betonmarkets CTO position]
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 5:55 AM, Uri Guttman u...@stemsystems.com wrote: PE == Peter Edwards pe...@dragonstaff.co.uk writes: PE I do hope anyone considering the online gambling gig has read: PE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Carruthers#Arrest_during_US_transit_flight PE Welcome to the Land of the Free. Unless you provide on-line PE gambling to US Netizens :-] i didn't want to get into this but i do like to get facts straight. the scandal that article refers to is for betonsports.com and this company is betonmarkets.com. i googled and found nothing mentioning both sites. here is a comment from the ceo of betonmarkets: There is no link whatsoever between the companies. Betonsports was a massive company (over 3000 staff as I seem to remember) and had offices everywhere, so I'm not surprised they also had offices in Malaysia. They were known to be a dodgey company, openly flouting US law. It is not surprising me in the lightest that beton sports is dodgey. -- Zbigniew Lukasiak http://brudnopis.blogspot.com/ http://perlalchemy.blogspot.com/
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Uri Guttman wrote: PE == Peter Edwards pe...@dragonstaff.co.uk writes: PE I do hope anyone considering the online gambling gig has read: PE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Carruthers#Arrest_during_US_transit_flight PE Welcome to the Land of the Free. Unless you provide on-line PE gambling to US Netizens :-] i didn't want to get into this but i do like to get facts straight. the scandal that article refers to is for betonsports.com and this company is betonmarkets.com. The company name is irrelevant. It's the stupid laws that matter. -- David Cantrell | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david Today's previously unreported paraphilia is tomorrow's Internet sensation
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On 12 February 2010 00:23, Simon Wistow si...@thegestalt.org wrote:
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:13:39PM +, Tom Hukins said:
Has anyone made a self referential TV show yet where they follow a
group of people trying to make a TV show?
Sports Night ('98-'00) and Studio 60 On The Sunset Strip ('06-'07) both
from Aaron West Wing Sorkin. In a similar vein to the latter 30 Rock
with Tina Fey.
The wikipedia pages of those lead us to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Television_series_about_television
But only moving wallpaper was about an actual independant program
being broadcast.
For added win it was set in Cornwall and the name of the program they
were making was Echo Beach which is the best song ever written by a
canadian band in the late 20th century!
A.
--
Aaron J Trevena, BSc Hons
http://www.aarontrevena.co.uk
LAMP System Integration, Development and Consulting
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On 11/02/2010 22:13, Tom Hukins wrote: Has anyone made a self referential TV show yet where they follow a group of people trying to make a TV show? The film equivalent is Lost In La Mancha. -- perl -le 'print (@) - $; +$ (- % _); * *+* *'
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I do hope anyone considering the online gambling gig has read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Carruthers#Arrest_during_US_transit_flight Welcome to the Land of the Free. Unless you provide on-line gambling to US Netizens :-] Regards, Peter http://perl.dragonstaff.co.uk
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Peter Edwards wrote: I do hope anyone considering the online gambling gig has read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Carruthers#Arrest_during_US_transit_flight That was one reason I originally asked - I was wondering if they lost the last body to a US stopover? Jacqui
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Things have moved on a lot since then. Firstly these two companies are not in any way related and secondly no reputable online gaming company offers accounts to US customers, thus avoid the need for anyone working for them to get arrested mid-flight. Regards, Paul On 12 Feb 2010, at 18:37, Jacqui Caren-home jacqui.ca...@ntlworld.com wrote: Peter Edwards wrote: I do hope anyone considering the online gambling gig has read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Carruthers#Arrest_during_US_transit_flight That was one reason I originally asked - I was wondering if they lost the last body to a US stopover? Jacqui
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PE == Peter Edwards pe...@dragonstaff.co.uk writes: PE I do hope anyone considering the online gambling gig has read: PE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Carruthers#Arrest_during_US_transit_flight PE Welcome to the Land of the Free. Unless you provide on-line PE gambling to US Netizens :-] i didn't want to get into this but i do like to get facts straight. the scandal that article refers to is for betonsports.com and this company is betonmarkets.com. i googled and found nothing mentioning both sites. here is a comment from the ceo of betonmarkets: There is no link whatsoever between the companies. Betonsports was a massive company (over 3000 staff as I seem to remember) and had offices everywhere, so I'm not surprised they also had offices in Malaysia. They were known to be a dodgey company, openly flouting US law. so if you want to slam something, please slam the right thing. as i said, i am trying to place people there and i did chastise the ceo for his spamming of london.pm. i didn't like it when you all got that. uri -- Uri Guttman -- u...@stemsystems.com http://www.sysarch.com -- - Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support -- - Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix http://bestfriendscocoa.com -
[Fwd: Betonmarkets CTO position]
The market must be picking up - I am getting head hunted again :-) Ok, I *know* its a trawl and a not very targetted one but the fact that the RA's are bothering to do trawls must mean things are picking up again. I dont really fancy moving abroad - quite happy where I am - but I am curious about this company - anybody know why they are hunting for a new CTO? Jacqui Original Message Subject: Betonmarkets CTO position Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:18:49 +0800 From: Jean-Yves Sireau j...@regent-markets.com Organisation: Regent Markets Group Dear Jacqui, Betonmarkets.com, the leading financial betting company, is looking to recruit a CTO. As a Perl expert, I was wondering whether you may be interested in the position? The Betonmarkets website and underlying systems are developed entirely in Perl and typically conduct 20,000 transactions per day. We are looking for a CTO who is expert and enthusiastic about Perl, as well as experienced in management and team leadership, and able to assume the role of CTO of a successful e-commerce company. We are located in Cyberjaya, Malaysia, which offers a high quality as well as low cost of living. We are a multi-national company, with staff from 14 countries (including the US, Europe, and Asia). Our company, and its location in Cyberjaya, offer a unique living and working experience for expatriates. If you would be interested to know more about this position, kindly email me your CV. Please feel free to forward this email to any person in the Perl community who may be interested in the opportunity. Best regards, Jean-Yves Sireau -- Jean-Yves Sireau, CEO Regent Markets Group Ltd. Genseq Ltd.
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On 11/02/2010 10:10, Jacqui Caren-home wrote: The market must be picking up - I am getting head hunted again :-) I got the same email, it's like they think people within an industry / skill set don't talk to each other :-) regards, Paul
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On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Jacqui Caren-home jacqui.ca...@ntlworld.com wrote: The market must be picking up - I am getting head hunted again :-) Ok, I *know* its a trawl and a not very targetted one but the fact that the RA's are bothering to do trawls must mean things are picking up again. I dont really fancy moving abroad - quite happy where I am - but I am curious about this company - anybody know why they are hunting for a new CTO? Just to complete the information about this - they did advertise it on the Perl Jobs linkedin group about a month ago - apparently they did not get any valuable answers and now got a bit desperate. I know someone already instructed them to post it at jobs.perl.org - let's hope it all ends up well. Cheers, Zbigniew http://brudnopis.blogspot.com/ http://perlalchemy.blogspot.com/
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Snap.. I got one of these as well. Wonder if that is coincidence :-) Perhaps we should ask whose mailing list he has managed to get hold of? Dirk Jacqui Caren-home wrote: The market must be picking up - I am getting head hunted again :-) Ok, I *know* its a trawl and a not very targetted one but the fact that the RA's are bothering to do trawls must mean things are picking up again. I dont really fancy moving abroad - quite happy where I am - but I am curious about this company - anybody know why they are hunting for a new CTO? Jacqui Original Message Subject: Betonmarkets CTO position Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:18:49 +0800 From: Jean-Yves Sireau j...@regent-markets.com Organisation: Regent Markets Group Dear Jacqui, Betonmarkets.com, the leading financial betting company, is looking to recruit a CTO. As a Perl expert, I was wondering whether you may be interested in the position? The Betonmarkets website and underlying systems are developed entirely in Perl and typically conduct 20,000 transactions per day. We are looking for a CTO who is expert and enthusiastic about Perl, as well as experienced in management and team leadership, and able to assume the role of CTO of a successful e-commerce company. We are located in Cyberjaya, Malaysia, which offers a high quality as well as low cost of living. We are a multi-national company, with staff from 14 countries (including the US, Europe, and Asia). Our company, and its location in Cyberjaya, offer a unique living and working experience for expatriates. If you would be interested to know more about this position, kindly email me your CV. Please feel free to forward this email to any person in the Perl community who may be interested in the opportunity. Best regards, Jean-Yves Sireau
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On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:58:07AM +, Dirk Koopman wrote: Snap.. I got one of these as well. Wonder if that is coincidence :-) Perhaps we should ask whose mailing list he has managed to get hold of? It's scraped from search.cpan.org (Or it's the publicly visible PAUSE e-mail addresses). My public PAUSE address is unique, used nowhere else, and never used to send e-mail. Miyagawa relays that Luke Closs suggested YAPC in Malaysia, sponsored by Betonmarkets. Nicholas Clark
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On 11/02/2010, at 10:00 PM, Mike Whitaker wrote: On 11 Feb 2010, at 10:58, Dirk Koopman wrote: Snap.. I got one of these as well. Wonder if that is coincidence :-) Perhaps we should ask whose mailing list he has managed to get hold of? Dunno, but, FWIW, mine was addressed to my IRC nick not my real first name. Mine came to my mailing lists address. The job is in an absolutely beautiful part of the world with great food and just about the most benign weather you could possibly imagine by the way. It's a shame I'm not in the market right now.
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On 11 February 2010 11:13, Kieren Diment dim...@gmail.com wrote: Mine came to my mailing lists address. The job is in an absolutely beautiful part of the world with great food and just about the most benign weather you could possibly imagine by the way. It's a shame I'm not in the market right now. ..because you work for their PR department instead? ;) Phil
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On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:13:15PM +1100, Kieren Diment wrote: The job is in an absolutely beautiful part of the world with great food and just about the most benign weather you could possibly imagine by the way. Albeit under an antiquated religious system with ridiculous laws that prop up racism (you're decidedly not Malaysian), sexism (nearly as bad as Afghanistan) and where homosexuality is illegal (punishable by death in some parts of the country)? At least you could probably bribe your way out of a trumped up crime if the internet is being reliably informed today. --James
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On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 03:21:23PM +0100, Philip Newton wrote: I thought something like that, too; the copy I got was addressed to my @cpan.org email address, which I don't actively give out, either. It's my single biggest source of spam. I get 419s all the time to it, job ads and today spam from a loan company that will loan me up to a million quid. Of course i'm likely to borrow a million quid off a spammer... --James
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just to fill in some info, i have been working with this shop to find a cto. i will tell the ceo this was a foolish move as it breaks the rules. they are a legit outfit and the ceo actually seems to have a perl clue. the perl test he sends out is unique, interesting and really tests your skills in a short time frame. that alone impressed me. anyhow, if anyone wants more info, contact me. if you know someone who may be interested in the job, send them my way and there could be a referal fee in it for you. thanx, uri -- Uri Guttman -- u...@stemsystems.com http://www.sysarch.com -- - Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support -- - Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix http://bestfriendscocoa.com -
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James Laver wrote: It's my single biggest source of spam. I get 419s all the time to it, job ads and today spam from a loan company that will loan me up to a million quid. Of course i'm likely to borrow a million quid off a spammer... I would, just wouldn't pay it back :-) Dirk
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On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 17:01, Dirk Koopman d...@tobit.co.uk wrote: James Laver wrote: It's my single biggest source of spam. I get 419s all the time to it, job ads and today spam from a loan company that will loan me up to a million quid. Of course i'm likely to borrow a million quid off a spammer... I would, just wouldn't pay it back :-) I'd love to pay it back; unfortunately, the money is held in a trust account and we need you to provide the account closure fees in order for the money to be released. Bribes may also accelerate the process. Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton philip.new...@gmail.com
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On 12/02/2010, at 12:03 AM, James Laver wrote: On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:13:15PM +1100, Kieren Diment wrote: The job is in an absolutely beautiful part of the world with great food and just about the most benign weather you could possibly imagine by the way. Albeit under an antiquated religious system with ridiculous laws that prop up racism (you're decidedly not Malaysian), sexism (nearly as bad as Afghanistan) and where homosexuality is illegal (punishable by death in some parts of the country)? At least you could probably bribe your way out of a trumped up crime if the internet is being reliably informed today. Everywhere with nice weather has its down side unfortunately. In many cases it's things like cyclones and earthquakes. In this case it's a somewhat odd political situation. On an almost-totally-unrelated note did you know that the New Internationalist Magazine is a Perl shop. They write lots of stuff about the effects post-colonialisation on nation states ;) http://www.newint.org/columns/country/2009/03/01/malaysia/
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On 11 Feb 2010, at 10:10, Jacqui Caren-home wrote: The market must be picking up - I am getting head hunted again :-) Ok, I *know* its a trawl and a not very targetted one but the fact that the RA's are bothering to do trawls must mean things are picking up again. I get loads of trawls, so much that it's tiring seeing the same bloody agencies over and over again spamming me with their PHP and webmonkey jobs in Outer Arseshire paying tuppence a week. Premier London is one, so just block *...@premier-london.co.uk now to save time later. What I mainly noticed when the market dived is that the agencies switched from phoning people with the skills to just spamming everybody on their database, and I'm hoping for this to revert again now the market's picking back up. I'm back up to one or two calls a day again, from a peak of six a day in 2007. I dont really fancy moving abroad - quite happy where I am - but I am curious about this company - anybody know why they are hunting for a new CTO? Rather bizarrely, I was pimpspammed about a Head of Technology role at Endemol. Everybody must be doing their spring cleaning of dead wood in anticipation of getting somebody useful in.
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On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 06:40:03AM +1100, Kieren Diment wrote: On 12/02/2010, at 12:03 AM, James Laver wrote: On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:13:15PM +1100, Kieren Diment wrote: The job is in an absolutely beautiful part of the world with great food and just about the most benign weather you could possibly imagine by the way. Albeit under an antiquated religious system with ridiculous laws ... Everywhere with nice weather has its down side unfortunately. And Malaysia doesn't even have nice weather! -- David Cantrell | Minister for Arbitrary Justice What profiteth a man, if he win a flame war, yet lose his cool?
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On 12/02/2010, at 7:35 AM, David Cantrell wrote: On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 06:40:03AM +1100, Kieren Diment wrote: On 12/02/2010, at 12:03 AM, James Laver wrote: On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:13:15PM +1100, Kieren Diment wrote: The job is in an absolutely beautiful part of the world with great food and just about the most benign weather you could possibly imagine by the way. Albeit under an antiquated religious system with ridiculous laws ... Everywhere with nice weather has its down side unfortunately. And Malaysia doesn't even have nice weather! Suppose it depends what temperature you like your rain. And what time of day you like the rain to happen :)
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On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 07:57:31PM +, Peter Corlett wrote: Rather bizarrely, I was pimpspammed about a Head of Technology role at Endemol. It's day one and the candidates have been asked about their five main strengths and weaknesses... Has anyone made a self referential TV show yet where they follow a group of people trying to make a TV show? Tom (no TV since 1999)
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On 11 February 2010 22:13, Tom Hukins t...@eborcom.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 07:57:31PM +, Peter Corlett wrote: Rather bizarrely, I was pimpspammed about a Head of Technology role at Endemol. It's day one and the candidates have been asked about their five main strengths and weaknesses... Has anyone made a self referential TV show yet where they follow a group of people trying to make a TV show? Tom (no TV since 1999) Yep, decades ago. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dick_Van_Dyke_Show Seinfeld sort of qualifies, though his aim was a complete piss take of that. It's a show about NOTHING!
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On Thu, 11 Feb 2010, Tom Hukins wrote: Has anyone made a self referential TV show yet where they follow a group of people trying to make a TV show? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_Wallpaper -- bob walker buses should be purple and bendy
Re: [Fwd: Betonmarkets CTO position]
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:13:39PM +, Tom Hukins said:
Has anyone made a self referential TV show yet where they follow a
group of people trying to make a TV show?
Sports Night ('98-'00) and Studio 60 On The Sunset Strip ('06-'07) both
from Aaron West Wing Sorkin. In a similar vein to the latter 30 Rock
with Tina Fey.
The wikipedia pages of those lead us to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Television_series_about_television
