[OT] Magazines

[Dave Cross]

[ apologies if this appears twice. i'm sure i remember typing
it this morning, but there seems to be no evidence to support
this ]

I've got almost complete collections of the UK magazines "Linux
Format" and "Linux Magazine" and most of the last 3 or 4 years
of "Linux Journal" and "Web Techniques" (aka "New Architect").
I've decided that they take up too much space and I never use
them as the useful articles are all on the web anyway.

So, they'll all be off to the tip a week on Sunday. Alternatively
they are free to anyone who wants to pick them up from my house
before then.

Dave...

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[OT] Magazines

[Dave Cross]

[ apologies if this appears twice. i'm sure i remember typing
it this morning, but there seems to be no evidence to support
this ]

I've got almost complete collections of the UK magazines "Linux
Format" and "Linux Magazine" and most of the last 3 or 4 years
of "Linux Journal" and "Web Techniques" (aka "New Architect").
I've decided that they take up too much space and I never use
them as the useful articles are all on the web anyway.

So, they'll all be off to the tip a week on Sunday. Alternatively
they are free to anyone who wants to pick them up from my house
before then.

Dave...

-- 


"Let me see you make decisions, without your television"
   - Depeche Mode (Stripped)

Re: [OT] Magazines

[Greg McCarroll]

* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> [ apologies if this appears twice. i'm sure i remember typing
> it this morning, but there seems to be no evidence to support
> this ]
> 
> I've got almost complete collections of the UK magazines "Linux
> Format" and "Linux Magazine" and most of the last 3 or 4 years
> of "Linux Journal" and "Web Techniques" (aka "New Architect").
> I've decided that they take up too much space and I never use
> them as the useful articles are all on the web anyway.
> 
> So, they'll all be off to the tip a week on Sunday. Alternatively
> they are free to anyone who wants to pick them up from my house
> before then.
> 

if nobody else wants them i might have be interested, however not
before sunday - this would be so much simpler if you still drank as i
could just bring a bottle of calvados round as payment and we could
drink that

sheesh, i have no idea how to arrange collection, so please give them
away if its hassle.

Greg


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Re: [OT] Magazines

[Greg McCarroll]

* Greg McCarroll ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> * Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > 
> > [ apologies if this appears twice. i'm sure i remember typing
> > it this morning, but there seems to be no evidence to support
> > this ]
> > 
> > I've got almost complete collections of the UK magazines "Linux
> > Format" and "Linux Magazine" and most of the last 3 or 4 years
> > of "Linux Journal" and "Web Techniques" (aka "New Architect").
> > I've decided that they take up too much space and I never use
> > them as the useful articles are all on the web anyway.
> > 
> > So, they'll all be off to the tip a week on Sunday. Alternatively
> > they are free to anyone who wants to pick them up from my house
> > before then.
> > 
> 
> if nobody else wants them i might have be interested, however not
> before sunday - this would be so much simpler if you still drank as i
> could just bring a bottle of calvados round as payment and we could
> drink that
> 
> sheesh, i have no idea how to arrange collection, so please give them
> away if its hassle.
> 

(sorry folks that should have been a private email)

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Re: [OT] Magazines

[Randal L. Schwartz]

> "Greg" == Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Greg> (sorry folks that should have been a private email)

Yeah, doesn't it suck when a list sets a reply-to?

... http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html

Please fix this.

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Re: [OT] Magazines

[Dave Cross]

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Randal L. Schwartz)
Date: 3/14/03 7:49:02 AM

> "Greg" == Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Greg> (sorry folks that should have been a private email)
>
> Yeah, doesn't it suck when a list sets a reply-to?
>
>  http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html
>
> Please fix this.

Please don't lets go thru this flamewar again. Yes, mailing lists
that set the "reply-to" header are bad and wrong. But it's the
behaviour that most people seem to expect these days, so I think
that we confuse less people by doing it the wrong way.

Sucks, I know, but then that's what you get for living in a world
where 95% of the inhabitants are stupid.

Dave...

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Re: [OT] Magazines

[Kris Boulez]

Quoting Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> 
> 
> Sucks, I know, but then that's what you get for living in a world
> where 95% of the inhabitants are stupid.
> 

I have the impression it's more like 99% these days :(

Kris,

Re: [OT] Magazines

[Dave Cross]

From: Kris Boulez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 3/14/03 9:47:16 AM

> Quoting Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
>> 
>> 
>> Sucks, I know, but then that's what you get for living in
a
>> world where 95% of the inhabitants are stupid.
>
> I have the impression it's more like 99% these days :(

You may have a point, but I am feeling unusually optimistic this
morning so I currently only hate 95% of the world.

Dave...

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Re: [OT] Magazines

[Lusercop]

On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 01:33:40AM -0800, Dave Cross wrote:
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Randal L. Schwartz)
> > "Greg" == Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Greg> (sorry folks that should have been a private email)
> > Yeah, doesn't it suck when a list sets a reply-to?

Just like it sucks when people use supershite.

> >  http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html
> > Please fix this.

Please stop using supershite. Same thing, really. I mean, I can't see
why anyone would want to get at least 2 copies of any reply to a message
they post to a mailing list, but maybe that's just me. Very few posters
on non reply-to munged lists seem to be able to trim their replylists.

> Please don't lets go thru this flamewar again. Yes, mailing lists
> that set the "reply-to" header are bad and wrong. But it's the
> behaviour that most people seem to expect these days, so I think
> that we confuse less people by doing it the wrong way.

I don't think that's the reason. And of course, there is also the
standard corollary to Randal's URL which is what you get if you google
for "Reply-To considered useful". If you don't like it, randal, you can
always unsubscribe.

> Sucks, I know, but then that's what you get for living in a world
> where 95% of the inhabitants are stupid.

No. See Rule 1. 100% of the inhabitants are stupid.

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Re: [OT] Magazines

[Mark Fowler]

On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, Lusercop wrote:

> Stuff.

This subject is closed.  These _subjects_ are closed.

If you have any comments to make regarding the policy of the list with
regard to Reply-To munging, people using quoting tactics, various email
behaviours, etc, please take it up with the list admins off list.  I
repeat OFF LIST.

The list admins can be reached at:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

That is all.

Mark.

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Re: [OT] Magazines

[Dave Hodgkinson]

On Fri, 2003-03-14 at 13:26, Mark Fowler wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, Lusercop wrote:
> 
> > Stuff.
> 
> This subject is closed.  These _subjects_ are closed.

And who appointed you list Nazi?

Oh, we did.

Never mind.

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[OT] List reply-to (was [OT] Magazines)

[Roger Burton West]

On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 11:49:02PM -0800, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
>Yeah, doesn't it suck when a list sets a reply-to?
>... http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html
>Please fix this.

That argument has been done. However, there is a middle way which
doesn't generally get proposed: the list sets a Reply-To: if and only if
there is no Reply-To: already present in the mail. That way, most
messages are automatically reply-to-list, but anyone who wants private
follow-ups can set them; it's the equivalent of being able to set
Followup-To: poster.

Of course, some people have broken email software which puts Reply-To:
in all their messages, but that's their problem.

Roger

Re: [OT] List reply-to (was [OT] Magazines)

[alex]

On Fri, 2003-03-14 at 09:09, Roger Burton West wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 11:49:02PM -0800, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
> >Yeah, doesn't it suck when a list sets a reply-to?
> >... http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html
> >Please fix this.
> 
> That argument has been done. However, there is a middle way which
> doesn't generally get proposed: the list sets a Reply-To: if and only if
> there is no Reply-To: already present in the mail. That way, most
> messages are automatically reply-to-list, but anyone who wants private
> follow-ups can set them; it's the equivalent of being able to set
> Followup-To: poster.

I think the latest versions of mailman do this.

Also they fix Paul Makepeace's bugbear of not mailing those who are
already CC'd.

Mailman has some excellent, progressive features now.  Of course both
these features can be switched on or off per list.

What it still doesn't do is to make reply-to munging a per-user option,
that would be nice.

alex
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Re: [OT] List reply-to (was [OT] Magazines)

[Mark Fowler]

On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, alex wrote:

> What it still doesn't do is to make reply-to munging a per-user option,
> that would be nice.

I have great hope in the siesta project being completed and allowing us
all such wonderfully user configuration options.  Until this point the
subject is officially closed, and people can take it up with me offlist if
they feel a need to do so.

Mark.

(Putting his foot down for once)

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