Re: [PUB] Rising Sun, Ebury Bridge Road, Victoria

2003-01-27 Thread Kate L Pugh
On Fri 24 Jan 2003, Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=528497Y=178425A=YZ=1 
 
 A Young's pub which *is* currently selling Winter Warmer and Double
 Chocolate stout. About 2.40 UKP for a pint of excellent Winter Warmer.
 
 Does food up until 9pm - the usual selection of pub foods. [...]  No
 vegetarian options though apart from chees eand pickle sandwiches
 and baked potato (either plain or with cheese and/or beans) [...]
 Toilets are on the ground floor, [...]

I just phoned them and they do have a function room, on the same level
as the rest of the pub, no charge to hire it out.  Room for 40--50
people standing.  I asked if they thought they could fit 30 people
seated and they said yes.

Simon, could you pop in and take a look at the function room at some
point?  If you think it's big enough then that sounds like an excuse
for an emergency reconnaissance to me.

Kake




[PUB] Rising Sun, Ebury Bridge Road, Victoria

2003-01-24 Thread Simon Wistow

This is the pub we went to last night after the tech meet.

It's located here :

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=528497Y=178425A=YZ=1 

A Young's pub which *is* currently selling Winter Warmer and Double
Chocolate stout. About 2.40 UKP for a pint of excellent Winter Warmer.

Does food up until 9pm - the usual selection of pub foods. I've only had
a chicken and baked potato there but that was filling, tasty and about 2
or 3 quid I think. No vegetarian options though apart from chees eand
pickle sandwiches and baked potato (either plain or with cheese and/or
beans)

Toilets are on the ground floor, the pub is quiet (there was no music
last night), warm (there's an open fire) and cosy. We didn't seem to
have too many problems fitting 30 odd people in the pub at 10:30 qithout
and prior notice to the bar staff. Clientele is mostly oldish locals.
Not a suit or a braying hoxton denizen to be seen (until we turned up).

Downsides, I suspect, are  that people may think it's too far to walk
(being a whole 10 minutes from either Victoria or Sloane Square,
although there are buses that run near) and the no vege pub food.

Simon


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Re: [PUB] Rising Sun, Ebury Bridge Road, Victoria

2003-01-24 Thread Natalie S. Ford
On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 11:25:54AM +, Simon Wistow wrote:
 Downsides, I suspect, are  that people may think it's too far to walk
 (being a whole 10 minutes from either Victoria or Sloane Square,
 although there are buses that run near) and the no vege pub food.

I think that it sounds like an idea contender for the socials.  It being
near Victoria is an added bonus for me, becaus I would be able to stay later
and still be able to get a train hime without paying for the Gatwick
Express and for parking at Gatwick!  ;-)

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Re: [PUB] Rising Sun, Ebury Bridge Road, Victoria

2003-01-24 Thread Mark Fowler
On Fri, 24 Jan 2003, Simon Wistow wrote:

 Downsides, I suspect, are  that people may think it's too far to walk
 (being a whole 10 minutes from either Victoria or Sloane Square,
 although there are buses that run near) and the no vege pub food.

Did the pub have a function room?

Mark.

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Re: [PUB] Rising Sun, Ebury Bridge Road, Victoria

2003-01-24 Thread Simon Wistow
On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 11:49:55AM +, Mark Fowler said:
 Did the pub have a function room?

There was a room at the back I think. TBH I actually completely forgot
to check but I can go and ask at lunch time.

FWIW I prefer it when we reserve tables rather than get an entire room
to ourselves. I think it's probably just me but meeting up in our own
special rooms makes me feel quite seedy. I dunno why. I think it's
because I like to think of the socials as just meeting up with friends
rather than a formal meeting. 6 o' one, half a dozen o' the other,
I 'spose. YMMV etc etc.






Re: [PUB] Rising Sun, Ebury Bridge Road, Victoria

2003-01-24 Thread Paul Mison
On 24/01/2003 at 11:25 +, Simon Wistow wrote:

This is the pub we went to last night after the tech meet.

A Young's pub which *is* currently selling Winter Warmer and Double
Chocolate stout. About 2.40 UKP for a pint of excellent Winter Warmer.


Traditionally the pubs london.pm visits for socials have been much 
more central, and invariably within the Circle line. This isn't. Does 
it have any great advantages over other candidates, given its 
downsides?

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:: we're like crystal



Re: [PUB] Rising Sun, Ebury Bridge Road, Victoria

2003-01-24 Thread the hatter
On Fri, 24 Jan 2003, Paul Mison wrote:

 On 24/01/2003 at 11:25 +, Simon Wistow wrote:
 This is the pub we went to last night after the tech meet.
 
 A Young's pub which *is* currently selling Winter Warmer and Double
 Chocolate stout. About 2.40 UKP for a pint of excellent Winter Warmer.

 Traditionally the pubs london.pm visits for socials have been much
 more central, and invariably within the Circle line. This isn't. Does
 it have any great advantages over other candidates, given its
 downsides?

C'mon, it's only a 10 minute walk from the circle line.


the hatter






Re: [PUB] Rising Sun, Ebury Bridge Road, Victoria

2003-01-24 Thread Joel Bernstein
On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 12:45:20PM +, Simon Wistow wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 12:18:40PM +, Paul Mison said:
  Traditionally the pubs london.pm visits for socials have been much 
  more central, and invariably within the Circle line. This isn't. Does 
  it have any great advantages over other candidates, given its 
  downsides?
 
 Technically it *is* in the Circle line. Just. Or over it.
 
 The advantages I'd see are that it's a nice pub, not encumbered by
 suits, cnuts or Sam Smith's beer. And I don't see it being much harder
 to get to than the 3 Cups, Calthorpe Arms or even the Sun Tavern.


Sam Smith's beer is generally crap, but they do make a very good
Weissbier. It's a good deal better than Hoegaarden, but of course
nowhere near as good as even Erdinger.

 I don't know how much of an issue it is to people that it's in the sacry
 part of London to the West where Nu Meeja Agencies ph34r to tr34d and
 not in Holborn (or 'MidTown' [tm] as I believe some estate agents are
 calling it). How did people find getting there and getting home last
 night? 

I'd prefer a pub near my work (western edge of Soho), but I'm sure I'll
be able to make it to Victoria.

 Of course I am biased in all of this because it's 20 meters from my
 work :)

Good, so you're nice and close when stuff breaks [or we need a WLAN] ;)

/joel




Re: [PUB] Rising Sun, Ebury Bridge Road, Victoria

2003-01-24 Thread Simon Wistow
On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 12:18:40PM +, Paul Mison said:
 Traditionally the pubs london.pm visits for socials have been much 
 more central, and invariably within the Circle line. This isn't. Does 
 it have any great advantages over other candidates, given its 
 downsides?

Technically it *is* in the Circle line. Just. Or over it.

The advantages I'd see are that it's a nice pub, not encumbered by
suits, cnuts or Sam Smith's beer. And I don't see it being much harder
to get to than the 3 Cups, Calthorpe Arms or even the Sun Tavern.

I don't know how much of an issue it is to people that it's in the sacry
part of London to the West where Nu Meeja Agencies ph34r to tr34d and
not in Holborn (or 'MidTown' [tm] as I believe some estate agents are
calling it). How did people find getting there and getting home last
night? 

Of course I am biased in all of this because it's 20 meters from my
work :)


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Re: [PUB] Rising Sun, Ebury Bridge Road, Victoria

2003-01-24 Thread Greg McCarroll

On the subject of beer and not venues, 

* Joel Bernstein ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  
  The advantages I'd see are that it's a nice pub, not encumbered by
  suits, cnuts or Sam Smith's beer. And I don't see it being much harder
  to get to than the 3 Cups, Calthorpe Arms or even the Sun Tavern.
 
 
 Sam Smith's beer is generally crap,

the best you can probably have is the taddy porter, but after about 4
or so they start becoming way too overpowering in taste and not in a
good way (like the plum beer at the PoH)

  but they do make a very good
 Weissbier. It's a good deal better than Hoegaarden, but of course
 nowhere near as good as even Erdinger.

i'd guess this beer also has the same scalability issues as the taddy
porter ;-)

the other problem with a SS pub is that once you decide you have had
enough of their beer you cant move to more pleasant wine/spirits, as
their `own brand' wines and spirits are pretty ghastly as well

since i've been working at broadcasting house i've been astonished by
how many SS pubs are around that place, there are pubs within 100
yards of each other both owned by SS, go another 100 yards and its
another SS pub, however while out walking the other day i discovered a
green king (is that greene king?) who do great IPA, so i need to scout
that place out for friday lunchtime beer fun

Greg

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Re: [PUB] Rising Sun, Ebury Bridge Road, Victoria

2003-01-24 Thread Tony Kennick

On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 12:46:25 +
Joel Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 12:45:20PM +, Simon Wistow wrote:
  On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 12:18:40PM +, Paul Mison said:
   Traditionally the pubs london.pm visits for socials have been much 
   more central, and invariably within the Circle line. This isn't. Does 
   it have any great advantages over other candidates, given its 
   downsides?
  
  Technically it *is* in the Circle line. Just. Or over it.
  
  The advantages I'd see are that it's a nice pub, not encumbered by
  suits, cnuts or Sam Smith's beer. And I don't see it being much harder
  to get to than the 3 Cups, Calthorpe Arms or even the Sun Tavern.
 
 
 Sam Smith's beer is generally crap,

*Bt* Challenge!

Old Brewery is one of the great session bitters of all time and their
beer is generally less over priced.

Although on second thought it is probably because I drink it in
Yorkshire as the brewery intends. I have a similar problem convincing
some of my friends in Sheffield about Ringwood and Badger as it has
mostly been mangled through a tight sparkler.


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Beer (was: Re: [PUB] Rising Sun, Ebury Bridge Road, Victoria)

2003-01-24 Thread Dave Cross

From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 1/24/03 12:59:12 PM

 however while out walking the other day i discovered a
 green king (is that greene king?) who do great IPA, so i 
 need to scout that place out for friday lunchtime beer fun

It's Greene King (with three es) and it's the beer that I
grew up on.

Whilst the IPA is eminently drinkable, for a sublime drinking
experience I recommend Abbot Ale. Or, even better, a half pint
of Abbot mixed with a bottle of St Edmunds.

Dave...
[who finds it slightly strange talking about beer when he no
longer drinks it]
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Re: [PUB] Rising Sun, Ebury Bridge Road, Victoria

2003-01-24 Thread Mark Fowler
On Fri, 24 Jan 2003, Simon Wistow wrote:

 On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 12:18:40PM +, Paul Mison said:
  Traditionally the pubs london.pm visits for socials have been much
  more central, and invariably within the Circle line. This isn't. Does
  it have any great advantages over other candidates...

I'm of the opinion that we shouldn't be looking for _The_ best pub,
because no one pub will ever really make everyone happy.  Therefore I'm
looking for a few pubs that are quite good that we can move between and
hopefully this will satisfy the most people.

 Technically it *is* in the Circle line. Just. Or over it.

I would say Victoria is central, and it's easy for most people to get to.
It's not particularly near North London.  I don't see this being a
problem.

 FWIW I prefer it when we reserve tables rather than get an entire room
 to ourselves. I think it's probably just me but meeting up in our own
 special rooms makes me feel quite seedy.

I think it's just you (though if anyone else feels this way feel free to
correct me.)  I don't see the difference between reserving a table and a
room.  sigmund-fruidTell me about your relationship with your farter
/sigmund-fruid.

The problem without having a room of our own is that if the pub becomes
overly crowded, or there's something else going on in the pub that's a
problem then there's not much we can do.  There's a lot of us (over twice
as many as made it to the pub last night) and it's impracticle to move to
another pub, so there's no escape.  Having our own room sheilds us from
this somewhat.

Mark.

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Re: [PUB] Rising Sun, Ebury Bridge Road, Victoria

2003-01-24 Thread Joel Bernstein
On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 02:14:56PM +, Mark Fowler wrote:
 On Fri, 24 Jan 2003, Simon Wistow wrote:
 
  On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 12:18:40PM +, Paul Mison said:
 
  FWIW I prefer it when we reserve tables rather than get an entire room
  to ourselves. I think it's probably just me but meeting up in our own
  special rooms makes me feel quite seedy.
 
 I think it's just you (though if anyone else feels this way feel free to
 correct me.)  I don't see the difference between reserving a table and a
 room.  sigmund-fruidTell me about your relationship with your farter
 /sigmund-fruid.

Tables  Room.

Oh, and my favourite Sigmund Freud joke:

Q: What's the definition of a Freudian slip?
A: When you say one thing and mean your mother.

*ba-boom-tsk*

/joel




Re: Beer (was: Re: [PUB] Rising Sun, Ebury Bridge Road, Victoria)

2003-01-24 Thread Lusercop
On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 05:46:03AM -0800, Dave Cross wrote:
 Whilst the IPA is eminently drinkable, for a sublime drinking
 experience I recommend Abbot Ale. Or, even better, a half pint

Most of the Greene King IPA I've ever had tasted watered down. I've never
been that impressed with it. The Free Press in Cambridge used to have the
right idea, they'd store it in their cellars for 4-5 weeks after getting
it delivered before they'd break it open and start serving it. Of course,
when the pub changed ownership, the new owners went Excellent, we've got
4 weeks worth of beer here, we don't have to order any for that long,
and these days, it tastes like water again.

It used to be a worthwhile pub.

Though I do like the Young's, though in general I prefer their bottled
stuff, unless they're serving Winter Warmer, and Fuller's. And, for the
other thread, the Sam Smiths crap is undrinkable.

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Re: Beer (was: Re: [PUB] Rising Sun, Ebury Bridge Road, Victoria)

2003-01-24 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 03:08:48PM +, Lusercop wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 05:46:03AM -0800, Dave Cross wrote:
  Whilst the IPA is eminently drinkable, for a sublime drinking
  experience I recommend Abbot Ale. Or, even better, a half pint

I like Abbot Ale.
There. that was useful for everyone to know.

 Most of the Greene King IPA I've ever had tasted watered down. I've never
 been that impressed with it. The Free Press in Cambridge used to have the
 right idea, they'd store it in their cellars for 4-5 weeks after getting
 it delivered before they'd break it open and start serving it. Of course,

This seems logical. After all, it's India Pale Ale and as I understand it
was originally brewed for export to India. I'm not sure how long it took to
ship beer to India, but presumably it was at least 4-5 weeks.

Nicholas Clark




Re: [PUB] Rising Sun, Ebury Bridge Road, Victoria

2003-01-24 Thread David Cantrell
On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 11:25:54AM +, Simon Wistow wrote:

 This is the pub we went to last night after the tech meet.
 It's located here :
 http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=528497Y=178425A=YZ=1 
 
 A Young's pub which *is* currently selling Winter Warmer and Double
 Chocolate stout. About 2.40 UKP for a pint of excellent Winter Warmer.

The Special was jolly good earlier in the evening, but a little ropey
later - perhaps it was just the end of the barrel or sumfink.  The bar
staff seemed a bit overwhelmed when we all turned up, so if we do use
this for socials we'd better warn the manglement.

 Downsides, I suspect, are  that people may think it's too far to walk
 (being a whole 10 minutes from either Victoria or Sloane Square,
 although there are buses that run near) and the no vege pub food.

As for it being too far south, we've used pubs that some people have
considered to be too far north so I don't see what the problem is.

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Re: [PUB] Rising Sun, Ebury Bridge Road, Victoria

2003-01-24 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 07:49:10PM +, David Cantrell wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 11:25:54AM +, Simon Wistow wrote:

  Downsides, I suspect, are  that people may think it's too far to walk
  (being a whole 10 minutes from either Victoria or Sloane Square,
  although there are buses that run near) and the no vege pub food.
 
 As for it being too far south, we've used pubs that some people have
 considered to be too far north so I don't see what the problem is.

Hell, we've been south of the river before.
And people came.

Nicholas Clark