Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Jonathan Peterson
Hi folx,

Do any of you wild 'living life on the edge' contractor types have a 
standard contract that you use (and, by extension, that I can use)? I'm 
looking for normal monthly work contracts rather than fixed-price job 
type contracts.

Jon

P.S. If these are things that you all have to pay solicitors hundreds of 
quid to draw up for you then just say, I'm not trying to get stuff on 
the cheap.

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Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Luis Campos de Carvalho
Jonathan Peterson wrote:
>
P.S. If these are things that you all have to pay solicitors hundreds of 
quid to draw up for you then just say, I'm not trying to get stuff on 
the cheap.

  I'm curious.
  Elaine just used the term 'quid' a few emails ago, and now Jonathan. 
Could someone please explain what is a 'quid'?

  Thank you all.
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Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Sam Smith
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Luis Campos de Carvalho wrote:
> Jonathan Peterson wrote:
> > P.S. If these are things that you all have to pay solicitors hundreds of
> > quid to draw up for you then just say, I'm not trying to get stuff on
> > the cheap.
>I'm curious.
>Elaine just used the term 'quid' a few emails ago, and now Jonathan.
> Could someone please explain what is a 'quid'?

1 pound.



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Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Dave Cross

From: Luis Campos de Carvalho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 6/26/03 12:50:46 PM

> I'm curious.
> Elaine just used the term 'quid' a few emails ago, and now
> Jonathan. 
> Could someone please explain what is a 'quid'?

"Quid" is the real name of the UK's monetary unit. You might
hear it called a "pound" by people who don't know what they are
talking about, but "quid" is the proper term.

A quid is made up of 20 shillings, each of which contains 12
pennies.

There are also larger amounts called a "monkey" and a "pony",
but you never really need those.

Hope this helps,

Dave...

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Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Redvers Davies
On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 12:50, Luis Campos de Carvalho wrote:
>Elaine just used the term 'quid' a few emails ago, and now Jonathan. 
> Could someone please explain what is a 'quid'?

A quid is another word for a pound (UKP).

One of the things that I found hardest to explain to Tracy was when you
do and don't use it.  You can't use it interchangably, just for certain
values.

Hmm, sounds like Acme::Quid to me.





Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Luis Campos de Carvalho
Dave Cross wrote:
"Quid" is the real name of the UK's monetary unit. You might
hear it called a "pound" by people who don't know what they are
talking about, but "quid" is the proper term.
A quid is made up of 20 shillings, each of which contains 12
pennies.
  Thank you very much, Dave.
  Please allow me just one more question.
  I would like to know the relation stated below:
  (\d+) monkey == (\d+) pony == 1 quid == 20 shillings == 240 pennies

Hope this helps,
  This is the first time I meet a monetary system that is not based on 
the relation

  100 - 50 - 20 - 10 - 5 - 1 - 0.50 - 0.25 - 0.10 - 0.01

  The English system looks like

  ? - ? - 1 - 0.05 - 1/240

  That is completelly new to me... =-]
  Thank you for explaining it to me.
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Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread alex


> "Quid" is the real name of the UK's monetary unit. You might
> hear it called a "pound" by people who don't know what they are
> talking about, but "quid" is the proper term.
>
> A quid is made up of 20 shillings, each of which contains 12
> pennies.
>
> There are also larger amounts called a "monkey" and a "pony",
> but you never really need those.
>
and of course a "score" = 20 quid.

a


> Hope this helps,
>
> Dave...
>
> --
> 
>
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>
>
>
>
>




Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Jasper McCrea
Sam Smith wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Luis Campos de Carvalho wrote:
> > Jonathan Peterson wrote:
> > > P.S. If these are things that you all have to pay solicitors hundreds of
> > > quid to draw up for you then just say, I'm not trying to get stuff on
> > > the cheap.
> >I'm curious.
> >Elaine just used the term 'quid' a few emails ago, and now Jonathan.
> > Could someone please explain what is a 'quid'?
> 
> 1 pound.
> 

Another thing interesting about 'pound' and 'quid' is that they are both their
own plurals. No need to add an ess anywhere.

Jasper



Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Andy Mendelsohn
On Thursday, June 26, 2003, at 02:04  pm, Dave Cross wrote:



A quid is made up of 20 shillings, each of which contains 12
pennies.
Sorry to correct you Dave, but i think you'll find a quid is made of of 
20 bob.




Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Dave Cross

From: Luis Campos de Carvalho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 6/26/03 1:19:39 PM
>
>   Thank you very much, Dave.
>   Please allow me just one more question.
>   I would like to know the relation stated below:
>
>   (\d+) monkey == (\d+) pony == 1 quid == 20 shillings == 240
pennies

A pony is 25 quid and a monkey is 500 quid.

But as I said before, you might want to avoid using them as these
terms carry a slight inference that the money is being used for
criminal purposes (for example a bribe).

>> Hope this helps,
>
>   This is the first time I meet a monetary system that is 
>   not based on the relation
>
>   100 - 50 - 20 - 10 - 5 - 1 - 0.50 - 0.25 - 0.10 - 0.01
>
>   The English system looks like
>
>   ? - ? - 1 - 0.05 - 1/240
>
>   That is completelly new to me... =-]

Yes, but it's positively simple compared with our systems of
length and weight :)

>   Thank you for explaining it to me.

It was a pleasure :)

Dave...

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Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Luis Campos de Carvalho
Redvers Davies wrote:
On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 12:50, Luis Campos de Carvalho wrote:

  Elaine just used the term 'quid' a few emails ago, and now Jonathan. 
Could someone please explain what is a 'quid'?


A quid is another word for a pound (UKP).

One of the things that I found hardest to explain to Tracy was when you
do and don't use it.  You can't use it interchangably, just for certain
values.
Hmm, sounds like Acme::Quid to me.

  Interesting.
  And what such a module would do?
  Monetary conversions, maybe?
  pony <==> (monkey|quid|shilling|penny)
  monkey   <==> (pony|quid|shilling|penny)
  quid <==> (pony|monkey|shilling|penny)
  shilling <==> (pony|monkey|quid|penny)
  penny<==> (pony|monkey|quid|shilling)
  And maybe we could (verbalize|de-verbalize) monetary ammounts, like

  ACME::Quid->verbalize( '1 quid', 'quid' ); would return 'one quid';
  ACME::Quid->verbalize( '1 quid', 'penny' ); would return
'two hundred and forty pennies';
  and so on...

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Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Andrew Wilson
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 10:19:39AM -0300, Luis Campos de Carvalho wrote:
> Dave Cross wrote:
> > 
> > "Quid" is the real name of the UK's monetary unit. You might
> > hear it called a "pound" by people who don't know what they are
> > talking about, but "quid" is the proper term.
> > 
> > A quid is made up of 20 shillings, each of which contains 12
> > pennies.
> 
>Thank you very much, Dave.
>Please allow me just one more question.
>I would like to know the relation stated below:
> 
>(\d+) monkey == (\d+) pony == 1 quid == 20 shillings == 240 pennies
> 
> > Hope this helps,
> 
>This is the first time I meet a monetary system that is not based on 
> the relation
> 
>100 - 50 - 20 - 10 - 5 - 1 - 0.50 - 0.25 - 0.10 - 0.01
> 
>The English system looks like
> 
>? - ? - 1 - 0.05 - 1/240

It was a UK system, not exclusively english. We (the UK) abandoned this
madness sometime in the 1970's I'm 37 and I barely remember it.

There were also halfpennies and farthings (which were 1/4 pennies).

Other commonly used values

Tuppence2 pennies
Thrupence   3 pennies
sixpence6 pennies

There were also florins which were 2 shillings.  A Guinney Which I
believe was 21 shillings (instead of 20 in the pound).  There were also
crowns and half crowns although I can't remember how much they were
worth.

If I've got any of this wrong, no doubt someone will put me right.

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Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Shevek
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Luis Campos de Carvalho wrote:

> Redvers Davies wrote:
> > On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 12:50, Luis Campos de Carvalho wrote:
> > Hmm, sounds like Acme::Quid to me.
> 
>Interesting.
>And what such a module would do?

Interestingly enough, almost exactly the same as Math::Units?

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Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Luis Campos de Carvalho wrote:

> Jonathan Peterson wrote:
>  >
> > P.S. If these are things that you all have to pay solicitors hundreds of
> > quid to draw up for you then just say, I'm not trying to get stuff on
> > the cheap.
> >
>
>I'm curious.
>Elaine just used the term 'quid' a few emails ago, and now Jonathan.
> Could someone please explain what is a 'quid'?
>

I would check out this:

 http://www.hemyockcastle.co.uk/money.htm#slang

it is likely you will see more of this stuff :-)

/J\




Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Luis Campos de Carvalho
Luis Campos de Carvalho wrote:
Hmm, sounds like Acme::Quid to me.
  Interesting.
  And what such a module would do?
Interestingly enough, almost exactly the same as Math::Units?

  I don't know.
  Math::Units is able to use UK measures and convert UK money as it was 
presented on the last emails? If yes, many thanks to Math::Units::AUTHOR.

  Maybe we could write a patch to Math::Units or extend it to 
Math::Units::UK...

  Thanks, "The Borg" =-]
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Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Dave Cross

From: Andy Mendelsohn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 6/26/03 1:26:15 PM

>On Thursday, June 26, 2003, at 02:04  pm, Dave Cross wrote:
>
>> A quid is made up of 20 shillings, each of which contains

>> 12 pennies.
>
> Sorry to correct you Dave, but i think you'll find a quid is
> made of of 20 bob.

"Bob" and "shilling" are (as Andy knows well) two names for the
same thing.

I have, however, just remembered that I missed out a couple of
important amounts:

A crown = 5 shillings (5 bob) = 60 pence
Half a crown = 2 and a half shillings = 30 pence

Dave...

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Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread muppet

Luis Campos de Carvalho said:
>This is the first time I meet a monetary system that is not based on
> [base ten numbers]

that's because the english system in question dates from a time when doing
things in a metric/decimal way hadn't been discovered to be a generally good
idea.

i believe they still think digital watches are a pretty neat idea.

not that the merkins are much better --- we know that metric will save us, and
even had a national plan to switch almost thirty years ago, but we're still on
the old-school aaanglish system.

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Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Joel Bernstein
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 07:01:29AM -0700, Dave Cross wrote:
> 
> From: Andy Mendelsohn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 6/26/03 1:26:15 PM
> 
> >On Thursday, June 26, 2003, at 02:04  pm, Dave Cross wrote:
> >
> >> A quid is made up of 20 shillings, each of which contains
> 
> >> 12 pennies.
> >
> > Sorry to correct you Dave, but i think you'll find a quid is
> > made of of 20 bob.
> 
> "Bob" and "shilling" are (as Andy knows well) two names for the
> same thing.

Yes, two tanners.
> 
> I have, however, just remembered that I missed out a couple of
> important amounts:
> 
> A crown = 5 shillings (5 bob) = 60 pence
> Half a crown = 2 and a half shillings = 30 pence

There must be others...
> 
> Dave...

/joel



Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Andrew Wilson
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 03:09:19PM +0100, Joel Bernstein wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 07:01:29AM -0700, Dave Cross wrote:
> > 
> > From: Andy Mendelsohn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: 6/26/03 1:26:15 PM
> > 
> > >On Thursday, June 26, 2003, at 02:04  pm, Dave Cross wrote:
> > >
> > >> A quid is made up of 20 shillings, each of which contains
> > 
> > >> 12 pennies.
> > >
> > > Sorry to correct you Dave, but i think you'll find a quid is
> > > made of of 20 bob.
> > 
> > "Bob" and "shilling" are (as Andy knows well) two names for the
> > same thing.
> 
> Yes, two tanners.
> > 
> > I have, however, just remembered that I missed out a couple of
> > important amounts:
> > 
> > A crown = 5 shillings (5 bob) = 60 pence
> > Half a crown = 2 and a half shillings = 30 pence
> 
> There must be others...

I don't think dave mentioned the Florin (2 shillings) or the Farthing
(1/4 penny).  Then there's the tuppeny bit, the thruppeny bit and the
sixpence which were all coins in general circulation.

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Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Nigel Hamilton
> >
> >   (\d+) monkey == (\d+) pony == 1 quid == 20 shillings == 240
> pennies
> 
> A pony is 25 quid and a monkey is 500 quid.
> 

Does £1000 == a 'Gorilla'?


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Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Nigel Hamilton wrote:
Does £1000 == a 'Gorilla'?
No, but £2000 is an "Archer".  :-)

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Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread David Cantrell
On Thursday, June 26, 2003 14:26 +0100 Andy Mendelsohn 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Thursday, June 26, 2003, at 02:04  pm, Dave Cross wrote:
A quid is made up of 20 shillings, each of which contains 12
pennies.
Sorry to correct you Dave, but i think you'll find a quid is made of of
20 bob.
So is the relationship between shilling and bob like that between GMT and 
UTC?

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Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Graham Barr
On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 15:33, David Cantrell wrote:
> On Thursday, June 26, 2003 14:26 +0100 Andy Mendelsohn 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thursday, June 26, 2003, at 02:04  pm, Dave Cross wrote:
> >> A quid is made up of 20 shillings, each of which contains 12
> >> pennies.
> > Sorry to correct you Dave, but i think you'll find a quid is made of of
> > 20 bob.
> 
> So is the relationship between shilling and bob like that between GMT and 
> UTC?

No. bob has nothing todo with the French :-)

Graham.





Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Tamsin


On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Joel Bernstein wrote:

> There must be others...

Guinea,  21 shillings,  or 1 pound, 1 shilling.

Still used in horse racing or perhaps pony racing?

T.



Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Andrew Beattie
  Elaine just used the term 'quid' a few emails ago, and now Jonathan. 
Could someone please explain what is a 'quid'?
My contributions to this thread:

A quid is to pound as a buck is to dollar.

An ounce of feathers is heavier than an ounce of gold.

My favorite measurement for windspeed is attoparsecs per microfortnight.

A bung is 10,000 quid.

"septagonal" isn't quite the shape of a 50p because it has curved
edges.  They curve to give it a constant diameter.
Here's another units question:

Which weighs more, an ounce of lead or a fluid ounce of mercury?

Andrew




Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Dirk Koopman
On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 20:37, Andrew Beattie wrote:
> >   Elaine just used the term 'quid' a few emails ago, and now Jonathan. 
> > Could someone please explain what is a 'quid'?
> 
> My contributions to this thread:
> 
> A quid is to pound as a buck is to dollar.
> 
> An ounce of feathers is heavier than an ounce of gold.

Really? What context of 'ounce' are we using here?

> 
> My favorite measurement for windspeed is attoparsecs per microfortnight.

This sounds like a rip-off of the Galdor "grain, pole, fortnight"
system. Although (in mitigation) I see that you haven't invoked the use
of the "universal constant" (a very useful concept which allows all
those nasty physical constants to equal the value '1').

> Which weighs more, an ounce of lead or a fluid ounce of mercury?

Mercury (at a guess), it is anyway (now) certainly more valuable. 

One of the things that has always intrigued me (in these litigious and
nanny state times) is: what happened to all the mercury that I and my
buddies in Slough Grammar spilled on the nice suspended wooden floor of
the physics and chemistry labs circa 1965-1972? (Not to mention in the
cracks of all the benches). 

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Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Andrew Beattie
Dirk Koopman wrote:
Which weighs more, an ounce of lead or a fluid ounce of mercury?
Mercury (at a guess), it is anyway (now) certainly more valuable. 
You are right, but I won't let you away with a guess.

Why is it heavier?

Andrew





Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 10:23:31PM +0100, Andrew Beattie wrote:
> Dirk Koopman wrote:
> >>Which weighs more, an ounce of lead or a fluid ounce of mercury?
> > Mercury (at a guess), it is anyway (now) certainly more valuable. 
> 
> You are right, but I won't let you away with a guess.
> 
> Why is it heavier?

Not that you were asking me, but I believe that a fluid ounce is the
volume of an ounce of water. Mercury is more dense than water, hence
that volume of mercury will weigh more than an ounce.

Was this once the thread about acme and towels?

Nicholas Clark



Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Rob Thompson


From: Andrew Beattie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 22:23:31 +0100
Dirk Koopman wrote:
Which weighs more, an ounce of lead or a fluid ounce of mercury?
Mercury (at a guess), it is anyway (now) certainly more valuable.
You are right, but I won't let you away with a guess.

Why is it heavier?

Andrew

A fluid ounce is defined as: fluid ounce (noun) -
1. a United States unit of capacity or volume equal to 1.804 cubic inches
Synonyms: fluidounce
2. a British imperial unit of capacity or volume (liquid or dry) equal to 8 
fluid drams or 28.416 cubic centimeters (1.734 cubic inches)
Synonyms: fluidounce

Mercury masses 13.57 g/cc, therefore 1 fl.oz of mercury masses 385.6g or 
13.6 oz (or 12.4 troy oz)

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Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread David H. Adler
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 02:33:52PM +0100, Andrew Wilson wrote:
> 
> It was a UK system, not exclusively english. We (the UK) abandoned this
> madness sometime in the 1970's I'm 37 and I barely remember it.

I'm 38 and I don't remember it at all.  Of course, I don't actually live
in the uk.  I only know about this stuff from old Monty Python
episodes...

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Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-27 Thread Philip Newton
On 26 Jun 2003 at 7:01, Dave Cross wrote:

> Half a crown = 2 and a half shillings = 30 pence

Also known as "two and six".

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Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-27 Thread Andy Mendelsohn
On Thursday, June 26, 2003, at 03:01  pm, Dave Cross wrote:

From: Andy Mendelsohn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 6/26/03 1:26:15 PM
On Thursday, June 26, 2003, at 02:04  pm, Dave Cross wrote:

A quid is made up of 20 shillings, each of which contains

12 pennies.
Sorry to correct you Dave, but i think you'll find a quid is
made of of 20 bob.
"Bob" and "shilling" are (as Andy knows well) two names for the
same thing.
I have, however, just remembered that I missed out a couple of
important amounts:
A crown = 5 shillings (5 bob) = 60 pence
Half a crown = 2 and a half shillings = 30 pence
a wee correction (not that anyone -really- cares, however it could 
confuse those who are trying to understand the obscurities of 
pre-decimalisation)

A shilling (1 bob) ==  5p.
5 shillings (5 bob)  == 25p
A Crown (5 bob) == 25p
Half a Crown (2/6-) == 12.5p
And if I recall correctly, a packet of Golden Wonder Salt and Vinegar 
crisps was 6d at the beginning of 1971 and my pocket money was 2 
shillings.

andy.

 




Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-27 Thread Andy Mendelsohn
On Thursday, June 26, 2003, at 03:01  pm, Dave Cross wrote:

From: Andy Mendelsohn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 6/26/03 1:26:15 PM
On Thursday, June 26, 2003, at 02:04  pm, Dave Cross wrote:

A quid is made up of 20 shillings, each of which contains

12 pennies.
Sorry to correct you Dave, but i think you'll find a quid is
made of of 20 bob.
"Bob" and "shilling" are (as Andy knows well) two names for the
same thing.
I have, however, just remembered that I missed out a couple of
important amounts:
A crown = 5 shillings (5 bob) = 60 pence
Half a crown = 2 and a half shillings = 30 pence
a wee correction (not that anyone -really- cares, however it could 
confuse those who are trying to understand the obscurities of 
pre-decimalisation)

A shilling (1 bob) ==  5p.
5 shillings (5 bob)  == 25p
A Crown (5 bob) == 25p
Half a Crown (2/6-) == 12.5p
And if I recall correctly, a packet of Golden Wonder Salt and Vinegar 
crisps was 6d at the beginning of 1971 and my pocket money was 2 
shillings.

andy.

Yeah, Dave was talking old money and I was talking new - just 5p to me 
is 'new' as opposed to 5d.
Oh my, we could get into  a right old two and six!

andy




Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-27 Thread David Hodgkinson
On Friday, June 27, 2003, at 05:39 AM, David H. Adler wrote:

On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 02:33:52PM +0100, Andrew Wilson wrote:
It was a UK system, not exclusively english. We (the UK) abandoned 
this
madness sometime in the 1970's I'm 37 and I barely remember it.
I'm 38 and I don't remember it at all.  Of course, I don't actually 
live
in the uk.  I only know about this stuff from old Monty Python
episodes...

I do. I was serving in my dad's greengrocer's shop when i was about six.
Helped get the till converted to decimal.
Bah, duodecimal is the way to go.




Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-27 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Fri, Jun 27, 2003 at 11:53:13AM +0100, David Hodgkinson wrote:
> Bah, duodecimal is the way to go.

http://base12.org/

P

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Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-28 Thread Philip Newton
On 28 Jun 2003 at 5:15, Paul Makepeace wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 27, 2003 at 11:53:13AM +0100, David Hodgkinson wrote:
> > Bah, duodecimal is the way to go.
> 
> http://base12.org/

Interesting.

Cheers,
Philip
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