Re: Living in glass houses was: [Re: webmail]

2002-11-04 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Simon Wistow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> Play nice children, and do try to get along. Otherwise we're no better
> than Java programmers. [X0]
> 
> [X0] he says, working on the "Give everybodsy a common enemy and they'll
> get along school of management" [X1]

scarily this isn't too bad a suggestion[2], if we were to look at who
our `enemies' were, they would more likely be Java and C++ ---
``Higher''[1] Level Languages that do not embrace the dynamic nature
of Perl, and our allies PHP and Python.

I do not see C as an enemy as I think it occupies an entirely
different problem space, however Java is exactly in the area where
Perl is excellent, imho, ymmv, idrciyd

Greg

[1] Than C and Pascal at least
[2] And I'm not joking.


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Re: Living in glass houses was: [Re: webmail]

2002-11-04 Thread Dave Cross
On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 03:54:14PM +, Greg McCarroll ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> 
> can we please skip the now inevitable mudslinging argument, its too
> near chrimbo for this sort of thing (m, duck, mm)

Don't get me started on bloody christmas!

Dave...

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Re: Living in glass houses was: [Re: webmail]

2002-11-04 Thread Andrew Wilson
On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 03:54:14PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> * Andrew Wilson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > 
> > I realise that none of this is relevant to whether PHP is inferior to
> > perl.  It does however relate directly to your qualifications to
> > pontificate on the subject.
> > 
> 
> can we please skip the now inevitable mudslinging argument, its too
> near chrimbo for this sort of thing (m, duck, mm)

Sure, I've slung all the mud I intend to about the subject.

andrew
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Re: Living in glass houses was: [Re: webmail]

2002-11-04 Thread Simon Wistow
On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 03:36:55PM +, Andrew Wilson said:
> As someone who's "debugged, modified, and written extensions for PHP",
> you seemed to have an inordinate amount of trouble coding one simple
> Linux Users Group web site.


Umm. To quote a certain bunch of stereotyped scoursers on a p[opular
comedy show

Calm down

I'm hoping that we can have a a sensible discussion about programming
languages without resulting to personal digs because, well, WE'RE NOT
F*CKING 14 ANYMORE.

Play nice children, and do try to get along. Otherwise we're no better
than Java programmers. [0]

Simon


[0] he says, working on the "Give everybodsy a common enemy and they'll
get along school of management" [1]
[1] And by the way, it was a joke. [2]
[2] And yes I am actually a Java programmer. [3]
[3] Well, I was untila bout a month ago.







Re: Living in glass houses was: [Re: webmail]

2002-11-04 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Andrew Wilson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> I realise that none of this is relevant to whether PHP is inferior to
> perl.  It does however relate directly to your qualifications to
> pontificate on the subject.
> 

can we please skip the now inevitable mudslinging argument, its too
near chrimbo for this sort of thing (m, duck, mm)

Greg

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Re: Living in glass houses was: [Re: webmail]

2002-11-04 Thread Andrew Wilson
On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 03:48:47PM +, Paul Makepeace wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 03:36:55PM +, Andrew Wilson wrote:
> [Wilson-on-Wilson flame action snipped]
> 
> OK, how many of you Wilsons are related? It's rapidly turning into a
> "Dave" situation. I for one am losing track...

Oh Dave and I aren't related.  Unless you count both of us being
memebers of the previously mentioned linux users group committee.

andrew
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Re: Living in glass houses was: [Re: webmail]

2002-11-04 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 03:36:55PM +, Andrew Wilson wrote:
[Wilson-on-Wilson flame action snipped]

OK, how many of you Wilsons are related? It's rapidly turning into a
"Dave" situation. I for one am losing track...

P

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