Re: Politics on London.pm
* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: snip bit about POLITICS THREADS If you don't enjoy them then please feel free to ignore them. fair enough, could people put POLITICS or some such in the subject once it turns into a politics debate then, at least for the next month or so, Greg -- Greg McCarroll http://217.34.97.146/~gem/
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On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 04:03:39PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
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Ok, let me scratch my first call, could I just ask that a lot
more of the topics on London.pm are non-political, my take on
London.pm is we are a social list, so lets have more topics
about things we are doing, how hungover we are after the social
^^^
meet, favourite recipes, favourite non-computer hobbies, etc.
Careful, that could include perl.
Nick
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Re: Politics on London.pm
* Dave Hodgkinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: fair enough, could people put POLITICS or some such in the subject once it turns into a politics debate then, at least for the next month or so, Smell like you were losing the argument so you want it squashed! Perhaps, but if so it was much in the same way as a wanting to leave a Having your testicles put in a drawer and having it slammed shut competition ;-) Greg -- Greg McCarroll http://217.34.97.146/~gem/
Re: Politics on London.pm
From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 10/1/01 5:05:36 PM * Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: snip bit about POLITICS THREADS If you don't enjoy them then please feel free to ignore them. fair enough, could people put POLITICS or some such in the subject once it turns into a politics debate then, at least for the next month or so, Why stop there? Perhaps we could put POLITICS::LEFT, POLITICS::RIGHT, POLITICS::BLAIRITE so that people can tell whether or not they are likely to agree with the content of the post. And don't forget to clearly label your Buffy posts with labels like BUFFY::SPOILER::SERIES_5, BUFFY::WILLOW::SEXY or BUFFY::WILLOW::SEXY::FLUTE. And film reviews should all have subjects like FILM::REVIEW::title::GOOD or FILM::REVIEW::title::BAD, FILM::AI::SPIELBERG::ON::CRACK etc. Oh, and you can label Perl questions with things like PERL::ON::CRACK, PERL::STUPID::NEWBIE::QUESTION or PERL::RTFM. In fact, why don't we do away with message bodies competely and just summarise the points in the subject so that no-one has to waste too much time following the list. Or maybe it's all a bloody stupid idea and we can just leave things as they are. What do you think? Dave... -- http://www.dave.org.uk Let me see you make decisions, without your television - Depeche Mode (Stripped)
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* Nick Cleaton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Careful, that could include perl. What that dead language? I'm with Python all the way man![1] Greg [1] Or Ruby, depending on what wins ;-)
DAVE:HAVING:A:BAD:DAY:OR:ELSE:HE:IS:BEING:A:TWAT, was Re: Politics on London.pm
* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 10/1/01 5:05:36 PM fair enough, could people put POLITICS or some such in the subject once it turns into a politics debate then, at least for the next month or so, Why stop there? Perhaps we could put POLITICS::LEFT, POLITICS::RIGHT, POLITICS::BLAIRITE so that people can tell whether or not they are likely to agree with the content of the post. snip rant In fact, why don't we do away with message bodies competely and just summarise the points in the subject so that no-one has to waste too much time following the list. Or maybe it's all a bloody stupid idea and we can just leave things as they are. What do you think? Err, i think you need to chill. Greg -- Greg McCarroll http://217.34.97.146/~gem/
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HERE HERE - I agree totally with Greg- this list is getting uncontrollable again. I suggest if everyone wants to debate complete crap that they do it on irc. Sue
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Hear, hear! I've been consistently impressed at how pleasant this group is even in potentially list-lethal discussions like aspects of politics. Seeing sooo many other groups lists degenerate into pathetic sniping bickering and yet how reasoned arguments are presented here, often humourously, is really refreshing and I for one would be disappointed to see it go. David Chris's post on counterpane was a heads-up for me without that discussion to precede it we probably wouldn't've got those links, and be the worse (IMO) for it. If anything, I would like to see a reduction in inane one/two-line blathering but then my definition of that is as personal as someone else's dislike of politics discussions so the easiest thing is, at its current relatively modest traffic usage, just to let it ride :-) $Paul-2c; On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 05:28:09PM +0100, robin szemeti wrote: well ... I'd rather talk about things that matter than things that don't .. there's precious little Perl on here. We had a moratorium on the events in the USA. Fair enough. This is events in the UK that will directly affect you, me and future generations. I don't see it as 'politics' so much as 'important events that will effect our lives and those of our children' .. if theres going to be a 'trivia only' clause then thats a sad state of affairs. Politics *should* be about thngs that matter to you. Party politics is, however, a completely different thing. would you *really* want a list where it was considered OK to discuss your mates hangover or other such trivia, but not ok to mention something that made you so mad you wanted to jump up and down on your radio? I think asking people not to mention events that will a have a major impact on your lives in what is possibly a time of the greatest social and political turmoil for the last 20 years is *so* not going to happen :) actually .. for the last month london.pm has been remarkably non-political as far as I could tell. I just hate coming on and getting into arguments with people I like, I have enough arguments in my life with arguing with my frineds over the nasty medium of email. I dint see it as a argument ... I thought it was a exchange of views about something that matters between sensible adults... you don't have to reply to any of my ramblings you know .. worever, -- Robin Szemeti
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sue gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: HERE HERE - I agree totally with Greg- this list is getting uncontrollable again. I suggest if everyone wants to debate complete crap that they do it on irc. So, buffy, ponies, how hung over you were this morning, off to irc with you? -- Piers Cawley www.iterative-software.com
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HERE HERE - I agree totally with Greg- this list is getting uncontrollable again. I suggest if everyone wants to debate complete crap that they do it on irc. Sue 'everyone wants to debate complete crap' is the best description of london.pm I've seen. seriously: greg argues that we shouldn't talk about politics because this is a social list. I find that puzzling. what is in the set of social subjects that are not political subjects? board games and beer? oh, right. and where else in the world are you going to hear the data integrity argument for compulsory id cards? will (warning: anarcho-pacifist windbag)
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On Mon, 1 Oct 2001, william ross wrote: 'everyone wants to debate complete crap' is the best description of london.pm I've seen. http://www.adequacy.org/?op=displaystory;sid=2001/9/12/102423/271 Of course the World Trade Center bombings are a uniquely tragic event, and it is vital that we never lose sight of the human tragedy involved. However, we must also consider if this is not also a lesson to us all; a lesson that my political views are correct. Although what is done can never be undone, the fact remains that if the world were organised according to my political views, this tragedy would never have happened. Many people will use this terrible tragedy as an excuse to put through a political agenda other than my own. This tawdry abuse of human suffering for political gain sickens me to the core of my being. Those people who have different political views from me ought to be ashamed of themselves for thinking of cheap partisan point-scoring at a time like this. In any case, what this tragedy really shows us is that, so far from putting into practice political views other than my own, it is precisely my political agenda which ought to be advanced. -- Chris Devers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Politics on London.pm
On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 06:36:45AM +0930, sue gray wrote: HERE HERE - I agree totally with Greg- this list is getting uncontrollable again. I suggest if everyone wants to debate complete crap that they do it on irc. Sue I should clarify this now I've read the rest of the flamewars. I am very interested in listening to others views on lots of things however it somethimes gets to the point that people are generally arguing for the sake of it and just filling the channel with noise that we have to wade thru. This is what I'm objecting to - not specific to politics.. ANd I stand by my point that IRC or something like (void) is a better forum to carry on past general interest. Sue - and feel free to pick on my mixed metaphors!
