Re: Straight Jackets and Video Cameras
Bob Walker wrote: all: there is more than one way to do it! Of course on this topic (and since it's a Friday)... and taking into account the talk of straight-jackets... and the well known meme that Perl isn't a bondage and discipline language... There's clearly the option of an ahem adult themed version of this*. Java: You are constantly accompanied by your maiden aunt. Chaperoned like this your virtue is safe, but you certainly aren't enjoying yourself. Python: Hmm, the ceiling needs painting again Lisp: Tantric - sounds great, but do you really have the spare time to do it properly? Perl: The Kama Sutra, available in Introductory and Advanced editions. * It would also give O'Reilly a whole new theme for their book covers too**. ** But please, no volunteer nude modelling. The Womens' Institute might get away with that sort of thing, but nobody looks good by the light of a green-screen monitor. -- Richard Huxton Archonet Ltd
Re: Straight Jackets and Video Cameras
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 08:26:30AM -0700, Ovid wrote: Java (in straight jacket): I'm Java Perl: I'm Perl. Java: I can be trusted. I can't poke myself in the eye. Perl: (shakes his/her head and walks off) Java: Hey, come back! I need someone to scratch my nose! J: I'm Java, I'm supported by most major software vendors, who provide glossy brochures, documentation and consultancy to help you use me to enterprisificatorize your business P: Bugger -- David Cantrell | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers. -- attributed by Plato to Socrates
Re: Straight Jackets and Video Cameras
2009/7/29 Ovid publiustemp-londo...@yahoo.com: Python (Japanese): I'm Ruby. Perl: I'm Perl. Python: I'm a clean, modern language. Perl: Hey, you're Japanese. Don't you write that funny Kanji stuff? How can you read that? Python: Hey, it's a beautiful, expressive style of writing. It's not my fault if you've never troubled to learn it. Perl: My point. Except that in Kanji, there is often more than one way to do it... I imagine Python incarnated by a lawyer or something.
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- Original Message From: Chisel Wright chi...@herlpacker.co.uk On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 08:26:30AM -0700, Ovid wrote: Python (Japanese): I'm Ruby. Why is Java pretending to be someone else? Er, how the heck did I miss that? Evidently my attempting to figure out how to downgrade Perl on Ubuntu has led to me hallucinating. Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/OvidPerl Official Perl 6 Wiki - http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl6
Re: Straight Jackets and Video Cameras
On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 09:49 +0100, Paul Makepeace wrote: I think this is a great idea, and would be much, much funnier (and well received) if Perl spent some time poking fun at itself. Lord knows, there's enough scope for that. Sign: YOU CAN EARN $$$ WITH PERL!! JAPH: *places sticker reading 'WRITE' over 'EARN'* JAPH: *writes underneath* ...and it will compile and run. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Straight Jackets and Video Cameras
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009, Paul Makepeace wrote: I think this is a great idea, and would be much, much funnier (and well received) if Perl spent some time poking fun at itself. Lord knows, there's enough scope for that. perl5.8: Hello my name is perl five point eight perl5.8: far too long lets try this perl5.8: hi my name is perl5.8 perl5.8: still to long! perl5.8: hi im perl5.8 perl5.10: dude, just say hi can you see what i did there :) -- Bob Walker http://london.randomness.org.uk - http://tech.randomness.org.uk http://londonstairs.co.uk - http://www.westcountrystairs.co.uk Stairs and doors are obstacles to overcome on the way to ale and food
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On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 15:04, Bob Walkerb...@randomness.org.uk wrote: perl5.8: Hello my name is perl five point eight perl5.8: far too long lets try this perl5.8: hi my name is perl5.8 perl5.8: still to long! perl5.8: hi im perl5.8 perl5.10: dude, just say hi perl5.005_03: don't you mean 5.008? Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton philip.new...@gmail.com
Re: Straight Jackets and Video Cameras
On 30 Jul 2009, at 14:23, Peter Corlett wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 01:59:47PM +0100, Denny wrote: [...] Sign: YOU CAN EARN $$$ WITH PERL!! JAPH: *places sticker reading 'WRITE' over 'EARN'* JAPH: *writes underneath* ...and it will compile and run. Well, that's the first one that's actually amusing enough to make me grin. I think what's particularly nice here is that it doesn't seem to be a joke at another group's expense. This script would be harder than some of the others to construe negatively. As Perl programmers we ought to know from personal experience the negative impacts of (being seen as) spreading FUD. It's essential, I feel, that the output of this nice marketing idea gives a mature impression to people who see the videos. /joel
Re: Straight Jackets and Video Cameras
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009, Paul Makepeace wrote: I think this is a great idea, and would be much, much funnier (and well received) if Perl spent some time poking fun at itself. Lord knows, there's enough scope for that. (guy in t shirt)Hi I'm Perl (guy on trampolene) Hi I'm Befunge . . -- Michael ~~~ Michael John Lush PhD Tel:44-1223 492626 Bioinformatician HUGO Gene Nomenclature Committee Email: h...@genenames.org European Bioinformatics Institute Hinxton, Cambridge URL: http://www.genenames.org ~~~
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On 30 Jul 2009, at 14:34, Joel Bernstein wrote: Well, that's the first one that's actually amusing enough to make me grin. I think what's particularly nice here is that it doesn't seem to be a joke at another group's expense. This script would be harder than some of the others to construe negatively. As Perl programmers we ought to know from personal experience the negative impacts of (being seen as) spreading FUD. Well said. They should be gently self deprecating I think. -- Andy Armstrong, Hexten
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On Thu, 30 Jul 2009, Paul Makepeace wrote: I think this is a great idea, and would be much, much funnier (and well received) if Perl spent some time poking fun at itself. Lord knows, there's enough scope for that. not really fun but quite obvious since a lot of you are going to be at YAPC:EU next week. perl.en: Hi, my name is perl perl.fr: Salut, mon nom est perl perl.de: Hi, mein Name ist perl perl.pt: Oi, meu nome é perl and so on until youve exhausted the possibilites all: there is more than one way to do it! -- Bob Walker http://london.randomness.org.uk - http://tech.randomness.org.uk http://londonstairs.co.uk - http://londonjoinery.com Stairs and doors are obstacles to overcome on the way to ale and food
Re: Straight Jackets and Video Cameras
On 30 Jul 2009, at 14:34, Joel Bernstein wrote: On 30 Jul 2009, at 14:23, Peter Corlett wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 01:59:47PM +0100, Denny wrote: [...] Sign: YOU CAN EARN $$$ WITH PERL!! JAPH: *places sticker reading 'WRITE' over 'EARN'* JAPH: *writes underneath* ...and it will compile and run. Well, that's the first one that's actually amusing enough to make me grin. I think what's particularly nice here is that it doesn't seem to be a joke at another group's expense. This script would be harder than some of the others to construe negatively. As Perl programmers we ought to know from personal experience the negative impacts of (being seen as) spreading FUD. It's essential, I feel, that the output of this nice marketing idea gives a mature impression to people who see the videos. So, the complete opposite of the original Mac/PC ads then Chris
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On 30 Jul 2009, at 14:56, Christopher Jones wrote: So, the complete opposite of the original Mac/PC ads then 1. Mitchell and Webb are professional comedians and can make a menu sound funny. 2. PC's suck and deserve to be belittled. -- Dave HodgkinsonMSN: daveh...@hotmail.com Site: http://www.davehodgkinson.com UK: +44 7768 490620 Blog: http://davehodg.blogspot.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/davehodg
Straight Jackets and Video Cameras
On the off chance that anyone here is interested, I thought it would be fun to produce a small parody of the I'm a PC/I'm a Mac ads. Basically, it would be a series of video shorts along the lines of I'm Java/I'm Perl, I'm Ruby/I'm Perl, etc. All in good fun, of course :) I don't think my Web cam provides *quite* the video quality I'm looking for :) I can do the the script writing (example: http://vimeo.com/1424008) and the video editing (example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3-ZUagzrjw), but if others want to chip in, that would be awesome. Would anyone be interested in working with me on this project, or perhaps make it a Sponsored by London.pm thing? I already have ideas for small sample scripts for a number of languages (one has a Java programmer in a straight jacket bragging about how he's never poked himself in the eye). Volunteer actors would be welcome, too. Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/OvidPerl Official Perl 6 Wiki - http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl6
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On Wed, 2009-07-29 at 07:32 -0700, Ovid wrote: On the off chance that anyone here is interested, I thought it would be fun to produce a small parody of the I'm a PC/I'm a Mac ads. Basically, it would be a series of video shorts along the lines of I'm Java/I'm Perl, I'm Ruby/I'm Perl, etc. In the spirit/style of the original, are they going to result in anyone who watches them wanting all parties to die horribly in a fire? :) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Straight Jackets and Video Cameras
2009/7/29 Ovid publiustemp-londo...@yahoo.com: On the off chance that anyone here is interested, I thought it would be fun to produce a small parody of the I'm a PC/I'm a Mac ads. Basically, it would be a series of video shorts along the lines of I'm Java/I'm Perl, I'm Ruby/I'm Perl, etc. All in good fun, of course :) I don't think my Web cam provides *quite* the video quality I'm looking for :) I can do the the script writing (example: http://vimeo.com/1424008) and the video editing (example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3-ZUagzrjw), but if others want to chip in, that would be awesome. Would anyone be interested in working with me on this project, or perhaps make it a Sponsored by London.pm thing? I already have ideas for small sample scripts for a number of languages (one has a Java programmer in a straight jacket bragging about how he's never poked himself in the eye). Volunteer actors would be welcome, too. Cheers, Ovid Like the Java/Ruby on Rails thing of a few years ago? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQbuyKUaKFo Adrian.
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On 29 Jul 2009, at 15:32, Ovid wrote: On the off chance that anyone here is interested, I thought it would be fun to produce a small parody of the I'm a PC/I'm a Mac ads. Basically, it would be a series of video shorts along the lines of I'm Java/I'm Perl, I'm Ruby/I'm Perl, etc. All in good fun, of course :) I don't think my Web cam provides *quite* the video quality I'm looking for :) I can do the the script writing (example: http://vimeo.com/1424008) and the video editing (example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3-ZUagzrjw) , but if others want to chip in, that would be awesome. Would anyone be interested in working with me on this project, or perhaps make it a Sponsored by London.pm thing? I already have ideas for small sample scripts for a number of languages (one has a Java programmer in a straight jacket bragging about how he's never poked himself in the eye). Volunteer actors would be welcome, too. Yeah! Could do some filming in Lisbon? -- Andy Armstrong, Hexten
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Adrian Lai wrote: 2009/7/29 Ovid publiustemp-londo...@yahoo.com: On the off chance that anyone here is interested, I thought it would be fun to produce a small parody of the I'm a PC/I'm a Mac ads. Basically, it would be a series of video shorts along the lines of I'm Java/I'm Perl, I'm Ruby/I'm Perl, etc. All in good fun, of course :) I don't think my Web cam provides *quite* the video quality I'm looking for :) I can do the the script writing (example: http://vimeo.com/1424008) and the video editing (example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3-ZUagzrjw), but if others want to chip in, that would be awesome. Would anyone be interested in working with me on this project, or perhaps make it a Sponsored by London.pm thing? I already have ideas for small sample scripts for a number of languages (one has a Java programmer in a straight jacket bragging about how he's never poked himself in the eye). Volunteer actors would be welcome, too. Cheers, Ovid Like the Java/Ruby on Rails thing of a few years ago? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQbuyKUaKFo Definitely interested. And I have a script for one kicking about.
Re: Straight Jackets and Video Cameras
On 29 Jul 2009, at 15:32, Ovid wrote: Would anyone be interested in working with me on this project, or perhaps make it a Sponsored by London.pm thing? I already have ideas for small sample scripts for a number of languages (one has a Java programmer in a straight jacket bragging about how he's never poked himself in the eye). Volunteer actors would be welcome, too. Are you seriously asking London Perl M[[ou]]ngers to pretend to be Java programmers? And to volunteer??? Chris.
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- Original Message From: Adrian Lai p...@loathe.me.uk Like the Java/Ruby on Rails thing of a few years ago? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQbuyKUaKFo I had totally forgotten about those. I was thinking more along the lines of a very short series of jokes per language, bundled into one vid. For example: __ Smalltalk: I'm SmallTalk. Perl: I'm Perl. SmallTalk: I have reflection. Perl: I have a job. __ Ruby (little girl): I'm Ruby. Perl (old guy): I'm Perl. Ruby: Why can't I run with scissors? Perl: You'll understand when you're older. __ Python (Japanese): I'm Ruby. Perl: I'm Perl. Python: I'm a clean, modern language. Perl: Hey, you're Japanese. Don't you write that funny Kanji stuff? How can you read that? Python: Hey, it's a beautiful, expressive style of writing. It's not my fault if you've never troubled to learn it. Perl: My point. (Some points about Ruby's poor Unicode handling might be particularly *poignant* instead) __ Java (in straight jacket): I'm Java Perl: I'm Perl. Java: I can be trusted. I can't poke myself in the eye. Perl: (shakes his/her head and walks off) Java: Hey, come back! I need someone to scratch my nose! (OK, that sucked, but I have a vision of tons of Java developers in straight jackets. That starts implying budgets, though) __ Lisp: I'm Lisp. Perl: I'm Perl. Lisp: You're illegible. Perl: You're kidding, right? __ That's off the top of my head and not terribly funny, but that's the idea. A bunch of short, stupid jokes comparing some tiny aspect of various languages, all edited into one video. I see Mike Whitaker already has ideas. Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/OvidPerl Official Perl 6 Wiki - http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl6
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- Original Message From: Christopher Jones c.jo...@ucl.ac.uk Are you seriously asking London Perl M[[ou]]ngers to pretend to be Java programmers? And to volunteer??? Hey, some of my best friends are cross-dressers. Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/OvidPerl Official Perl 6 Wiki - http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl6
Re: Straight Jackets and Video Cameras
* at 29/07 07:32 -0700 Ovid said: On the off chance that anyone here is interested, I thought it would be fun to produce a small parody of the I'm a PC/I'm a Mac ads. Basically, it would be a series of video shorts along the lines of I'm Java/I'm Perl, I'm Ruby/I'm Perl, etc. All in good fun, of course :) Isn't this just likely to turn out to be an exercise in poking a load of wasps nests? Struan
Re: Straight Jackets and Video Cameras
Ovid publiustemp-londo...@yahoo.com wrote: On the off chance that anyone here is interested, I thought it would be fun to produce a small parody of the I'm a PC/I'm a Mac ads. Basically, it would be a series of video shorts along the lines of I'm Java/I'm Perl, I'm Ruby/I'm Perl, etc. All in good fun, of course :) I don't think my Web cam provides *quite* the video quality I'm looking for :) I can do the the script writing (example: http://vimeo.com/1424008) and the video editing (example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3-ZUagzrjw), but if others want to chip in, that would be awesome. Would anyone be interested in working with me on this project, or perhaps make it a Sponsored by London.pm thing? I already have ideas for small sample scripts for a number of languages (one has a Java programmer in a straight jacket bragging about how he's never poked himself in the eye). Volunteer actors would be welcome, too. Interestingly, I am planning to go to the Metropolitan Film Schools Weekend intensive/intro weekend in September (www.metfilmschool.co.uk) as part of preparation for a longer term project I am working on so would be quite interested in getting some practice in. Apparently Red Cameras are all the buzz in the film schools at the moment, however I'm not about to cough out any money at this stage... Chris PS I'm doing a one mile swim at Weymouth on August 9 on behalf of the British Heart Foundation. If anyone fancies sponsoring me, please go to http://original.justgiving.com/chrisjack _ Windows Live Messenger: Happy 10-Year Anniversary—get free winks and emoticons. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/
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On 29 Jul 2009, at 16:50, Struan Donald wrote: * at 29/07 07:32 -0700 Ovid said: On the off chance that anyone here is interested, I thought it would be fun to produce a small parody of the I'm a PC/I'm a Mac ads. Basically, it would be a series of video shorts along the lines of I'm Java/I'm Perl, I'm Ruby/I'm Perl, etc. All in good fun, of course :) Isn't this just likely to turn out to be an exercise in poking a load of wasps nests? It's called marketing. -- Dave HodgkinsonMSN: daveh...@hotmail.com Site: http://www.davehodgkinson.com UK: +44 7768 490620 Blog: http://davehodg.blogspot.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/davehodg
Re: Straight Jackets and Video Cameras
On 29 Jul 2009, at 15:32, Ovid wrote: On the off chance that anyone here is interested, I thought it would be fun to produce a small parody of the I'm a PC/I'm a Mac ads. Basically, it would be a series of video shorts along the lines of I'm Java/I'm Perl, I'm Ruby/I'm Perl, etc. All in good fun, of course :) I have a DV cam, tripod and white wall. Can blag a pro mike. -- Dave HodgkinsonMSN: daveh...@hotmail.com Site: http://www.davehodgkinson.com UK: +44 7768 490620 Blog: http://davehodg.blogspot.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/davehodg
Re: Straight Jackets and Video Cameras
- Original Message From: Struan Donald str...@exo.org.uk Isn't this just likely to turn out to be an exercise in poking a load of wasps nests? I certainly hope so. Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/OvidPerl Official Perl 6 Wiki - http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl6
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- Original Message From: Dave Hodgkinson daveh...@gmail.com I have a DV cam, tripod and white wall. Can blag a pro mike. All sounds awesome except for the white wall. Would be nice to find interesting settings which make people think WTF? Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/OvidPerl Official Perl 6 Wiki - http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl6
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On 29 Jul 2009, at 18:10, Ovid wrote: - Original Message From: Dave Hodgkinson daveh...@gmail.com I have a DV cam, tripod and white wall. Can blag a pro mike. All sounds awesome except for the white wall. Would be nice to find interesting settings which make people think WTF? Whatever. You're the creative. -- Dave HodgkinsonMSN: daveh...@hotmail.com Site: http://www.davehodgkinson.com UK: +44 7768 490620 Blog: http://davehodg.blogspot.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/davehodg
