Re: The answer to the map and disc problem
On 29 May 2003 at 6:59, Toby Corkindale wrote: On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 09:59:32PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: I too am an advocate of old-style spelling. Unfortunately, this keyboard lacks eth, thorn, etc. vim probably allows access via the Ctrl-K thingies? TH and th, D- and d- on two Latin-1 versions of vim I have lying around. (p- and p~, D- and d- on a HP-Roman-8 version I have.) Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The answer to the map and disc problem
On Tue, 27 May 2003 09:32:37 -0700, Dave Cross wrote: p.s. There's a great letter in this week's Radio Times. Someone is complaining about a recent TV version of some Shakespeare play. Their complaint is that it was performed in modern dress but the language hadn't been updated so they couldn't understand it! Maybe they should watch Forbidden Planet, or one of the many variations on Romeo and Juliet that have been made. My 3 second search didn't bring up any versions of Twelfth Night (the RT correspondent's subject of complaint) which didn't keep the original name. -- Peter Haworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] You cannot pick your nose in Perl without mallocking random chunks -- Tom Christiansen
Re: The answer to the map and disc problem
On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 14:41, Peter Haworth wrote: On Tue, 27 May 2003 09:32:37 -0700, Dave Cross wrote: p.s. There's a great letter in this week's Radio Times. Someone is complaining about a recent TV version of some Shakespeare play. Their complaint is that it was performed in modern dress but the language hadn't been updated so they couldn't understand it! Maybe they should watch Forbidden Planet, or one of the many variations on Romeo and Juliet that have been made. My 3 second search didn't bring up any versions of Twelfth Night (the RT correspondent's subject of complaint) which didn't keep the original name. Possibly they were watching William Shakespeare's Romeo + Juliet [1] staring Leonardo DeCaprio and Claire Danes. I seem to recall that it was on the other day and does a reasonable job [2] of keeping the text while updating the setting. Simon. [1] http://us.imdb.com/Title?0117509 [2] FSVO, YMMV, IANAMC etc :)
Re: The answer to the map and disc problem
Peter Haworth wrote: On Tue, 27 May 2003 09:32:37 -0700, Dave Cross wrote: p.s. There's a great letter in this week's Radio Times. Someone is complaining about a recent TV version of some Shakespeare play. Their complaint is that it was performed in modern dress but the language hadn't been updated so they couldn't understand it! Maybe they should watch Forbidden Planet, or one of the many variations on Romeo and Juliet that have been made. I think you read a different version of Romeo and Juliet than I did at school. What are the various shakespeare - strange genre adaptations? I can only think of Forbidden Planet offhand. Jasper -- My carrot-weapon was soft and ineffectual
Re: The answer to the map and disc problem
On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 14:51, Jasper McCrea wrote: What are the various shakespeare - strange genre adaptations? I can only think of Forbidden Planet offhand. Romeo Juliet - West Side Story
Re: The answer to the map and disc problem
Jasper McCrea wrote: Peter Haworth wrote: On Tue, 27 May 2003 09:32:37 -0700, Dave Cross wrote: p.s. There's a great letter in this week's Radio Times. Someone is complaining about a recent TV version of some Shakespeare play. Their complaint is that it was performed in modern dress but the language hadn't been updated so they couldn't understand it! Maybe they should watch Forbidden Planet, or one of the many variations on Romeo and Juliet that have been made. I think you read a different version of Romeo and Juliet than I did at school. What are the various shakespeare - strange genre adaptations? I can only think of Forbidden Planet offhand. http://uk.imdb.com/Name?Shakespeare,+William to answer my own question. There's even an episode of Dilbert in there. If there was no copyright expiration date his descendants would be pretty wealthy. Jasper -- I think I tore my sack
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On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 02:59:44PM +0100, Jasper McCrea wrote: http://uk.imdb.com/Name?Shakespeare,+William If there was no copyright expiration date his descendants would be pretty wealthy. If he had any still alive. And if none of them had sold the rights to Disney. R
Re: The answer to the map and disc problem
On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 02:51:22PM +0100, Jasper McCrea wrote: Peter Haworth wrote: On Tue, 27 May 2003 09:32:37 -0700, Dave Cross wrote: p.s. There's a great letter in this week's Radio Times. Someone is complaining about a recent TV version of some Shakespeare play. Their complaint is that it was performed in modern dress but the language hadn't been updated so they couldn't understand it! Maybe they should watch Forbidden Planet, or one of the many variations on Romeo and Juliet that have been made. I think you read a different version of Romeo and Juliet than I did at school. What are the various shakespeare - strange genre adaptations? I can only think of Forbidden Planet offhand. There's also 'From A Jack To A King' by the same author, with the same music and cheesy modified Shakespearean dialogue: 'Beware the ids that march', I ask you. I saw a show called 'Fall For Me' at the Fringe -- it's A Midsummer Night's Dream but with hippies and a rock band and set in 1967. I suspect there have been plenty of similar shows. (Ooh -- I heart Google loads: here's a review of it: http://www.britishtheatreguide.info/otherresources/fringe/fringe98-05.htm) Chris.
Re: The answer to the map and disc problem
Chris Andrews wrote: On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 02:51:22PM +0100, Jasper McCrea wrote: What are the various shakespeare - strange genre adaptations? I can only think of Forbidden Planet offhand. There's also 'From A Jack To A King' by the same author, with the same music and cheesy modified Shakespearean dialogue: 'Beware the ids that march', I ask you. Tom Stoppard's _Fifteen Minute Hamlet_ comes to mind, as well as does _Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead_. I haven't seen the filmed version of the former, but the staging of it I saw was great. It's a pity Stoppard isn't more consistant in his writings, there's a world between _Brazil_ or his best plays such as _The Real Inspector Hound_ and say, _Shakespeare in Love_ or _The Russia House_. http://www.imdb.com/Name?Stoppard,+Tom -- Robin Berjon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Research Engineer, Expwayhttp://expway.fr/ 7FC0 6F5F D864 EFB8 08CE 8E74 58E6 D5DB 4889 2488
Re: The answer to the map and disc problem
What are the various shakespeare - strange genre adaptations? I can only think of Forbidden Planet offhand. I've come in a bit late here so forgive me if this has been mentioned already but... Peter Greenaway's Prospero's books seams to fit into this catergory. A pretty cool score to go with the fine film too! -- James 'Hey, you have the same problem with your trousers as I do!' V. Stanshall =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= James Campbell Research Bioinformatician Proteome Sciences Institute of Psychiatry South Wing Lab PO BOX P045 16 De Crespigny Park London SE5 8AF Tel:+44-(0)20-7848-5111 Fax:+44-(0)20-7848-5114 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web 1: www.proteome.co.uk Web 2: www.proteinworks.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Re: The answer to the map and disc problem
On Wed, 28 May 2003, Jasper McCrea wrote: Jasper McCrea wrote: What are the various shakespeare - strange genre adaptations? I can only think of Forbidden Planet offhand. http://uk.imdb.com/Name?Shakespeare,+William to answer my own question. Just to add a couple that I don't see on that list, both The Lion King and Strange Brew are basically just the Hamlet story, redone as Disney cartoon and Wayne's World / Bill Ted style buddy comedy, respectively. Heh -- citing Shakespeare as a source is one thing, but -- 115. Wars of the Roses, The (1989) TV Series (writer) -- goes a bit far, I think :) If there was no copyright expiration date his descendants would be pretty wealthy. Well, yes. But then, he would have made quite a few of his predecessors and their ancestors wealthy as well. Really it's just hypothetical passing of money from one generation to the next. Or something like that. :) -- Chris Devers[EMAIL PROTECTED] Q: What is the difference between a duck? A: One leg is both the same.
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On Wed, 28 May 2003, Chris Devers wrote:
Heh -- citing Shakespeare as a source is one thing, but --
115. Wars of the Roses, The (1989) TV Series (writer)
-- goes a bit far, I think :)
I didn't see him listed for Shakespeare in Love either, though quite a few
lines in it are obviously his.
Random idea 4023: ipdb
Internet Perl Database, featuring all perl code and coders. You can
then play seven degrees of Leon Brocard.
I'm going to shut up now before someone actually does this.
Mark.
--
#!/usr/bin/perl -T
use strict;
use warnings;
print q{Mark Fowler, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://twoshortplanks.com/};
Re: The answer to the map and disc problem
On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 12:03:52AM +0100, Mark Fowler wrote: Random idea 4023: ipdb Internet Perl Database, featuring all perl code and coders. You can then play seven degrees of Leon Brocard. In the same vein at least, http://www.perlcabal.com/real.html Paul -- Paul Makepeace ... http://paulm.com/ What is how big is the sky? Telephone sex. -- http://paulm.com/toys/surrealism/
Re: The answer to the map and disc problem
On 28 May 2003 14:56:01 +0100, Simon Wilcox wrote: On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 14:51, Jasper McCrea wrote: What are the various shakespeare - strange genre adaptations? I can only think of Forbidden Planet offhand. Romeo Juliet - West Side Story That's what I was thinking of, but it kept coming out as Grease, which I knew wasn't right. My excuse is that I know nothing about West Side Story, except that it's a version of Romeo and Juliet. Yeah, that'll cover it. -- Peter Haworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Who needs to profile, when Sam can calculate runtime profiles without even glancing at the code? Just tell Sam an anecdote about your program, and he'll give you a thumbs up or down. -- Len Budney
Re: The answer to the map and disc problem
On Tue, 27 May 2003, David Cantrell wrote:
And a quick Mac question - on this 'ere keyboard, the numeral three shares
a key with the pound symbol and the hash symbol. The numeral 2 shares it
with the at symbol and the euro symbol. Why, out of those six characters,
are 2, 3, at, euro, and pound printed on the key, but hash isn't?
Not entirely sure. What's more worrying is that using the usian keymap
(which I'm doing now so I can type # easily) alt-2 gives the TM symbol
rather than a euro. I supose apple are suggesting that the US spend more
time worry about trademarks than they do doing buisness with europeans.
Hmm. Must rewrite the keymap file again to make the keys be useful again.
Mark.
--
#!/usr/bin/perl -T
use strict;
use warnings;
print q{Mark Fowler, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://twoshortplanks.com/};
Re: The answer to the map and disc problem
From: Peter Sergeant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 5/27/03 10:02:36 AM Standardize, serialize -- the Americans have it right in this case. The s/ize/ise/ is a fairly recent anglicism - as recent as 50 years ago in fact. For some further information on this, check out your friendly neighbourhood Oxford Fowler's Modern English Usage Dictionary. It's true that the z-s tranformation is recent and that the 'z' spellings were in use here when the pilgrims left, but I'm not sure that fact makes them any more correct than the generally accepted 's' spellings. Since when waa antiquity a measure of correctness in spelling or grammer? Or would you prefer that we all used the language of the Canterbury Tales? Or Piers Plowman? Or Beowulf? Dave... p.s. There's a great letter in this week's Radio Times. Someone is complaining about a recent TV version of some Shakespeare play. Their complaint is that it was performed in modern dress but the language hadn't been updated so they couldn't understand it! -- http://www.dave.org.uk Let me see you make decisions, without your television - Depeche Mode (Stripped)
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It's true that the z-s tranformation is recent and that the 'z' spellings were in use here when the pilgrims left, but I'm not sure that fact makes them any more correct than the generally accepted 's' spellings. Since when waa antiquity a measure of correctness in spelling or grammer? Exactly. Although, 50 years ago hardly equates with pilgrim times... I believe that's significiantly more recent than Webster's simplifications, about which some people get rather ... jingoistic. But as you say, antiquity is no measure of correctness. Surely, being programmers, and being fond of laughing at the Americans for not using the metric system, we should embrace American spellings, which are arguably simpler and better representations of the spoken words? +Pete -- A cucumber should be well-sliced, dressed with pepper and vinegar, and then thrown out. -- Samuel Johnson
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On Tuesday, May 27, 2003 11:02 +0100 Dominic Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Makepeace wrote: Oh, and isn't it about time the Euro was adopted in the UK? I mean COME ON. We can't possibly adopt the Euro in the UK until my vt220 displays it correctly! -Dom (a paid up member of the unicode-for-everything brigade) Bugger Unicode. The letter E works just fine. And a quick Mac question - on this 'ere keyboard, the numeral three shares a key with the pound symbol and the hash symbol. The numeral 2 shares it with the at symbol and the euro symbol. Why, out of those six characters, are 2, 3, at, euro, and pound printed on the key, but hash isn't? -- David Cantrell Beekeeping is like being a lion tamer, but with smaller lions, and more of them. -- arp
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On Tuesday, May 27, 2003 11:43 +0100 Steve Keay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 11:27:52AM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: The yanks will have to adopt metric one of these days. MUHAHA I'd settle for them having the right Imperial units to start with. ...and ISO paper sizes. And sensible date formats. Big endian I can cope with - 2003-05-27. Little endian I can cope with - 27/05/2003. Middle-endian is FUCKED UP and WRONG. -- David Cantrell Beekeeping is like being a lion tamer, but with smaller lions, and more of them. -- arp
Re: The answer to the map and disc problem
On Tue, 27 May 2003, Dave Cross wrote: Or would you prefer that we all used the language of the Canterbury Tales? Or Piers Plowman? Or Beowulf? Well it's funny you might say that /J\
Re: The answer to the map and disc problem
On Tuesday, May 27, 2003 10:47 +0100 Paul Makepeace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm an advocate, despite being English holding a British passport, of the old style spelling (i.e. the one used in the US). -ise is a minority case used by a small island of far fewer than a certain large continent. The disparity is even greater when you consider the relative Interweb use. I too am an advocate of old-style spelling. Unfortunately, this keyboard lacks eth, thorn, etc. -- David Cantrell Beekeeping is like being a lion tamer, but with smaller lions, and more of them. -- arp
